I know it's not PC, etc., and the government's strength is such today, that it is actually dangerous to put any recorded word out there, but say if I always felt that I would like to destroy a lot of people, and I had these feelings for a very long time (over a decade), should I be thrown to jail for having such feelings?
Two thirds of my life ago, when I was in high school, I wanted to die, and also wanted to take everyone with me. (Abusive children due to physical differences caused it.) I boiled it down to (what was to me) a fairly simple goal: launch an empty missile at the USSR, they then retaliate with actual nuclear warheads, we retaliate with same, and the world endures nuclear winter.
In the 90s I learned about nanotechnology. After that, I realized that I could (could, not would) live forever, enjoying life all the way down to the heat death (and perhaps, escaping this universe into another; or, stealing energy from the other(s)). At that point, I decided that I still want to take everyone with me -- but instead of into destruction, into enjoyment.
I'm not certain that the government would view my change of mind any differently. I still want to take all the citizens away from the clutches of government; and for that, I'm evil.
because EVERYONE is tempted to do what is wrong from time to time. It is only when they actually DO it that they have DONE something illegal.
Close to the truth: the human brain is a planning machine. It evaluates (must needs evaluates!) both positive and negative plans. Evaluating the negative plans helps one to not pursue them. So, having thoughts of killing one's self, or others, is not evidence of imminent crimes. It is merely evidence of evaluation. The corollary? If one decides that the negative plans are worth pursuing -- that is when one needs help. Not when one is evaluating. For instance, I regularly think about ways I can kill myself. I constantly tell myself, "no..."; that is healthy. I defy government to tell me otherwise (and, of course, they'll win; but I'll be right, even when I'm on the wrong side of the grass thanks to my government). The previous statement was unconsciously motivated by the book I'm currently reading, "It is Dangerous to be Right When the Government is Wrong". Highly recommended.
If you haven't seen it yet, that was a decent military drama ("Over There"). In one episode (IIRC, towards the end, and justifiably so...), the US military approached an abandoned domicile, which had a bunch of US cash stuffed in the walls. The military started removing it, and not long after the homeowner came home, seeing people burglaring his home, and started shooting; of course, the US military has more firepower, and killed the homeowner and his associates.
The part that got me (and likely is the reason the series ended shortly thereafter), was: I wonder just how many of our "military operations under the fog of war" were perpetrated specifically to take out the wealthy citizens of the foreign country, who might have had the resources to either fight back, or organize a resistance?
Yes, I'm an American. No, I am not tribal. Lawlessness is lawlessness, regardless of whether it's my tribe doing it.
of course, not for them, but for, y'know, them other people, the ones who need watching.
I would argue that the ones who argue that others need watching, need watching themselves. But what do I know, I'm only classically educated, not the new-fangled math.
Hang on, "wake me up to abused protocols?" I think you have difficulty in communicating, again. I'm already awakened to abuse of protocols. I thought you were learning; again, I'm chagrined. There's hope for the future, though. Download "Thrive".
Given their sordid history, I strongly suspect that the FBI is interested in a definition of 'terrorist' that goes well beyond Mr. Ibn Muhumad Jihad al Anthrax and includes a fair number of much more prosaic domestic groups, who are probably twitbooking and facester-ing just as much as everybody else.
The part that bothers me about all this? I have deliberately blocked Facebook and its collection sites in my/etc/hosts file. Perhaps, just perhaps, I will be seen as a subversive (either for using Linux; or, one) who is "hiding my identity" in order to do wrong (no: I'm hiding it in order to not be a [victim/advertising metric]). Thus my concern at "the definition of 'terrorist'" you posted.
Sure thing! (Pun unintentional, but noticed.:) I'm not yet a user, but with the new Makerbot thing being only $2k and not needing any assembly, I might be one soon.:)
I saw an interesting thought experiment here a few days ago: "do you think the aliens will respect our financial instruments?" I see the same essential thought experiment with copyright, and come to the same essential conclusions.
Yeah, this makes me think I'm already on a list somewhere. Well, as the oldest of four, that actually makes me proud: at least someone is giving me attention!
More seriously, though: your issue was the captcha; for me, it sailed right through that, it's just never emailing me, meaning I cannot complete the signup process.
This evening I learned that my site's provider (DirectNIC.com) was just email blacklisted, so perhaps that accounts for this weekend's failure. But it doesn't account for the previous three attempts. Yes, I have given up on this form of public discourse, much to my chagrin -- but, I will complain about it publicly, because although I have at times thought about leaving Slashdot, I'm really just an abused spouse. Which, I suppose, is one goal the corruption is trying to achieve (i.e., learned hopelessness in the populace).
(Note: this is supposed to be informative, not negative; please correct my words if you think it was inflammatory.) The way that you wrote that makes it look like "before the mother of Christ", but that is not what the phrase is supposed to mean. It's spelled "prima donna", which is Italian for the operatic "first lady" (and, I suppose one could argue that Eve happened before Madonna, but that's a bit of a stretch). It refers to the way that Italian actresses used to act back in the day, which is similar to how Hollywood actors require "no blue M&Ms" and such (see "Modern Usage" in that Wikipedia link).
Wow, I actually groped my brain to disambiguate that acronym, and had gotten as far as "Transportation Fondling" before the other side said "nonono, it's The Fine Article". Thanks, brain!
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Well, I feel like an alien. I mean, the aliens won't respect our "currency", nor our "policies". I don't see why I should, either.
Without Gilliam, there's a certain [amount] of anarchy that wouldn't be present.
And perhaps also, a defining quantity! :)
Your 12 mpg rating does seem awfully close to 10 mpg. To your argument, i would say, "Go boil a frog." (Yes, I know that's been mythbusted as well.)
As a mathematician, I've never heard the graduated arc or circle definition.
Well, hey, now you have. As have I. Rejoice, don't defecate.
Yeah... except that credit card numbers are *SUPPOSED* to be secret.
Yes. Just like my SSN is supposed to be "secret". One-factor security, FTL.
I know it's not PC, etc., and the government's strength is such today, that it is actually dangerous to put any recorded word out there, but say if I always felt that I would like to destroy a lot of people, and I had these feelings for a very long time (over a decade), should I be thrown to jail for having such feelings?
Two thirds of my life ago, when I was in high school, I wanted to die, and also wanted to take everyone with me. (Abusive children due to physical differences caused it.) I boiled it down to (what was to me) a fairly simple goal: launch an empty missile at the USSR, they then retaliate with actual nuclear warheads, we retaliate with same, and the world endures nuclear winter.
In the 90s I learned about nanotechnology. After that, I realized that I could (could, not would) live forever, enjoying life all the way down to the heat death (and perhaps, escaping this universe into another; or, stealing energy from the other(s)). At that point, I decided that I still want to take everyone with me -- but instead of into destruction, into enjoyment.
I'm not certain that the government would view my change of mind any differently. I still want to take all the citizens away from the clutches of government; and for that, I'm evil.
You seem to think your personal concept of a right to plan mass-murder is more important than the right to life of the [future, potential] victims.
Fixed that for us.
because EVERYONE is tempted to do what is wrong from time to time. It is only when they actually DO it that they have DONE something illegal.
Close to the truth: the human brain is a planning machine. It evaluates (must needs evaluates!) both positive and negative plans. Evaluating the negative plans helps one to not pursue them. So, having thoughts of killing one's self, or others, is not evidence of imminent crimes. It is merely evidence of evaluation. The corollary? If one decides that the negative plans are worth pursuing -- that is when one needs help. Not when one is evaluating. For instance, I regularly think about ways I can kill myself. I constantly tell myself, "no..."; that is healthy. I defy government to tell me otherwise (and, of course, they'll win; but I'll be right, even when I'm on the wrong side of the grass thanks to my government). The previous statement was unconsciously motivated by the book I'm currently reading, "It is Dangerous to be Right When the Government is Wrong". Highly recommended.
What are you? A bar room brawler?
Sweet! ("She thinks she's the passionate one!")
Exactly. Hence, the tag "thoughtcrime".
'over there'
If you haven't seen it yet, that was a decent military drama ("Over There"). In one episode (IIRC, towards the end, and justifiably so...), the US military approached an abandoned domicile, which had a bunch of US cash stuffed in the walls. The military started removing it, and not long after the homeowner came home, seeing people burglaring his home, and started shooting; of course, the US military has more firepower, and killed the homeowner and his associates.
The part that got me (and likely is the reason the series ended shortly thereafter), was: I wonder just how many of our "military operations under the fog of war" were perpetrated specifically to take out the wealthy citizens of the foreign country, who might have had the resources to either fight back, or organize a resistance?
Yes, I'm an American. No, I am not tribal. Lawlessness is lawlessness, regardless of whether it's my tribe doing it.
and any undesired police attention is usually solely to solicit a bribe.
Unfortunately, not strictly a Russian phenomenon any more, these days...
I'll take Total Recall. Sharon Stone was hot.
Well, you did get the verb tense right. :) Gives new meaning to "never let them see you sweat"!!!
of course, not for them, but for, y'know, them other people, the ones who need watching.
I would argue that the ones who argue that others need watching, need watching themselves. But what do I know, I'm only classically educated, not the new-fangled math.
Hang on, "wake me up to abused protocols?" I think you have difficulty in communicating, again. I'm already awakened to abuse of protocols. I thought you were learning; again, I'm chagrined. There's hope for the future, though. Download "Thrive".
Given their sordid history, I strongly suspect that the FBI is interested in a definition of 'terrorist' that goes well beyond Mr. Ibn Muhumad Jihad al Anthrax and includes a fair number of much more prosaic domestic groups, who are probably twitbooking and facester-ing just as much as everybody else.
The part that bothers me about all this? I have deliberately blocked Facebook and its collection sites in my /etc/hosts file. Perhaps, just perhaps, I will be seen as a subversive (either for using Linux; or, one) who is "hiding my identity" in order to do wrong (no: I'm hiding it in order to not be a [victim/advertising metric]). Thus my concern at "the definition of 'terrorist'" you posted.
I applaud your capitalization progress. Seriously. It is refreshing to communicate using protocols.
Sure thing! (Pun unintentional, but noticed. :) I'm not yet a user, but with the new Makerbot thing being only $2k and not needing any assembly, I might be one soon. :)
I'm not a site author or maintainer; I think you will have better luck querying them.
I saw an interesting thought experiment here a few days ago: "do you think the aliens will respect our financial instruments?" I see the same essential thought experiment with copyright, and come to the same essential conclusions.
See http://www.thingiverse.com
Absolutely agreed. (Oh, and perhaps they were looking for "wight"? 1/2 :)
Yeah, this makes me think I'm already on a list somewhere. Well, as the oldest of four, that actually makes me proud: at least someone is giving me attention!
More seriously, though: your issue was the captcha; for me, it sailed right through that, it's just never emailing me, meaning I cannot complete the signup process.
This evening I learned that my site's provider (DirectNIC.com) was just email blacklisted, so perhaps that accounts for this weekend's failure. But it doesn't account for the previous three attempts. Yes, I have given up on this form of public discourse, much to my chagrin -- but, I will complain about it publicly, because although I have at times thought about leaving Slashdot, I'm really just an abused spouse. Which, I suppose, is one goal the corruption is trying to achieve (i.e., learned hopelessness in the populace).
pre-madona's
(Note: this is supposed to be informative, not negative; please correct my words if you think it was inflammatory.) The way that you wrote that makes it look like "before the mother of Christ", but that is not what the phrase is supposed to mean. It's spelled "prima donna", which is Italian for the operatic "first lady" (and, I suppose one could argue that Eve happened before Madonna, but that's a bit of a stretch). It refers to the way that Italian actresses used to act back in the day, which is similar to how Hollywood actors require "no blue M&Ms" and such (see "Modern Usage" in that Wikipedia link).
read TFA to be certain: [...]
Wow, I actually groped my brain to disambiguate that acronym, and had gotten as far as "Transportation Fondling" before the other side said "nonono, it's The Fine Article". Thanks, brain!