Exactly! "State machine, given different inputs, produces different outputs." Your challenger stated a tautology, not (as you correctly stated) an argument proving you wrong. (To be clear: you are the state machine.)
Dream on. If its not pot, it will be other worse drugs. The cartels are not going to go quietly.
Oh, okay, I think I see an inkling of where this logic takes us and I'm not certain I agree. If legalizing drugs will make it worse, then it sounds like you're advocating to make even more substances illegal. Next we'll ban oxygen. Then soil. We'll get those damned cartels one day!!! (Sending in swift and angry guns seemed to help, as well...)
which is probably a violation of company policy (sharing your compensation with other employees) and they get fired for cause.
Yeah, I'm with my sibling poster: communication about compensation should not result in termination. If it does, then management must have some benefit from keeping employees from being able to discuss their relative compensation. (Not paranoid; just understanding the consequences of decisions.)
As soon as I posted I realized a solution: cameras all over the car, which are constantly recording and uploading (ala Qik). So if someone approached the car and disabled the car's battery, then destroyed all the cameras and planted a device, you'd still have the video of the approach to hopefully determine their identity. And whether they destroyed your property or not, you would be aware of their presence and would then be able to thoroughly investigate your vehicle for unwanted additions. (Might need more batteries for this insurance.)
I guarantee that if this is found to be constitutional, 25% of the vehicles on the road will have a GPS tracker within 10 years. For no better reason than "just because they can."
I can envision something similarly insidious: new car purchases will have the "option" of having the tracking device removed, for an extra $1,000. And, of course, they won't actually remove it; they'll just submit your name to a government database of people who should be tracked closer.
Seriously: if authorities are doing this, then others could be as well. What options are available for mere citizens to detect these types of devices? A garage with a mirrored floor would be a good start, I suppose. Cameras in the mirrors as well, and software that detects differences from one "park" to the next. (Lot of false positives in the winter...) And, it wouldn't detect devices that the camera can't see. Having weight monitors in the mirror would be good as well, except it would need to take into account the amount of gas left in the vehicle, and any cargo... Perhaps x-rays to detect items hidden in the walls, but I wouldn't want that to go off while a human was near. Not an easy problem to solve.
Anyway, I agree, and I heard something promising on NPR today: one of the callers remarked that the Supreme Court judges who will be trying this case should keep in mind that if it is determined constitutionally legal that police can attach devices to vehicles willy-nilly, then said justices may very well find GPS trackers attached to their cars. The other good argument was that if it's judged constitutional, then the politicians will work quickly to create laws making it illegal, because they don't want to be tracked to their mistresses, bathroom stalls, and pages.
The police have been known to place a beacon on cars, which helps them locate and follow a suspect's vehicle. They still have to go out into the field and put some effort into it, and the device can help them continue to track a suspect worth getting off their asses to track.
Yeah, except: fucking with my property, is still fucking with my property. Following me is not; this is the fundamental difference.
Well, you (mostly) had me, up until "eyeball tracking." Then, I realized that cops lie, and I would much rather have the veracity of my whereabouts determined by a machine that cannot (or, is less capable of uttering a?) lie. And even then, I'm not so sure, because police cameras have the surprising ability of turning off at just the right moment to not capture evidence of police brutality. (Like in Oakland, when the war vet got hit in the skull with the tear gas canister, when two news helicopter cameras "failed".) So I guess what I'm saying is, I tend to trust non-human reports more, but when they're potentially corrupted by corrupt humans, less so.
I wonder how much useful legislation would include LOL, STFU or WTF.
I think it would benefit society if the citizenry were able to add such comments to legislature. For instance, something like "50% or more 'wtf' comments and this law goes back in the bag." (Of course, then you need to deal with astroturfing; "politicking is hard", as Barbie would say, if math wasn't.)
Initial response nailed it. I just wanted to add what I've seen as someone's signature: "vote gridlock", it's the only solution in this uncertain environment.
the way the TSA began and the way it is being pushed out beyond it's original boundaries with people advocating and supporting random vehicle searches on Interstates, shipping, busing, backscatter X-ray being used for major sporting events which will eventually trickle down to every public building and who knows how far beyond that...
Your comment just gave me a new insight to the new movie, "In Time". In this movie, people at birth are given a certain amount of time, after which they will be destroyed (similar to Logan's Run). People can spend this time on pleasures. I see traveling via the TSA as similar: there is a certain number of passes you can take through their radiation machines before you start exhibiting symptoms. Instead of "In Time", perhaps it could be "In Air", or "In Radiation".
I'd rather die a free man in my grave / than live as a puppet or a slave.
I'm not so sure about that, even though it appears obvious that you're quoting lyrics. A puppet could one day remove its strings, a slave could one day obtain freedom; a dead man can never rise up, regardless of how free he (thinks he) was.
Europe under one flag, one currency, a Federated Superstate of homogenised regions ordered by *number* not *name*. The days of the Empire were numbered from that point on.
So, were those days of the Empire *named* prior to that point?
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Exactly! "State machine, given different inputs, produces different outputs." Your challenger stated a tautology, not (as you correctly stated) an argument proving you wrong. (To be clear: you are the state machine.)
Dream on. If its not pot, it will be other worse drugs. The cartels are not going to go quietly.
Oh, okay, I think I see an inkling of where this logic takes us and I'm not certain I agree. If legalizing drugs will make it worse, then it sounds like you're advocating to make even more substances illegal. Next we'll ban oxygen. Then soil. We'll get those damned cartels one day!!! (Sending in swift and angry guns seemed to help, as well...)
which is probably a violation of company policy (sharing your compensation with other employees) and they get fired for cause.
Yeah, I'm with my sibling poster: communication about compensation should not result in termination. If it does, then management must have some benefit from keeping employees from being able to discuss their relative compensation. (Not paranoid; just understanding the consequences of decisions.)
Well, music soothed the savage beast; perhaps it had some genetic effect as well?
As soon as I posted I realized a solution: cameras all over the car, which are constantly recording and uploading (ala Qik). So if someone approached the car and disabled the car's battery, then destroyed all the cameras and planted a device, you'd still have the video of the approach to hopefully determine their identity. And whether they destroyed your property or not, you would be aware of their presence and would then be able to thoroughly investigate your vehicle for unwanted additions. (Might need more batteries for this insurance.)
I guarantee that if this is found to be constitutional, 25% of the vehicles on the road will have a GPS tracker within 10 years. For no better reason than "just because they can."
I can envision something similarly insidious: new car purchases will have the "option" of having the tracking device removed, for an extra $1,000. And, of course, they won't actually remove it; they'll just submit your name to a government database of people who should be tracked closer.
Seriously: if authorities are doing this, then others could be as well. What options are available for mere citizens to detect these types of devices? A garage with a mirrored floor would be a good start, I suppose. Cameras in the mirrors as well, and software that detects differences from one "park" to the next. (Lot of false positives in the winter...) And, it wouldn't detect devices that the camera can't see. Having weight monitors in the mirror would be good as well, except it would need to take into account the amount of gas left in the vehicle, and any cargo... Perhaps x-rays to detect items hidden in the walls, but I wouldn't want that to go off while a human was near. Not an easy problem to solve.
Anyway, I agree, and I heard something promising on NPR today: one of the callers remarked that the Supreme Court judges who will be trying this case should keep in mind that if it is determined constitutionally legal that police can attach devices to vehicles willy-nilly, then said justices may very well find GPS trackers attached to their cars. The other good argument was that if it's judged constitutional, then the politicians will work quickly to create laws making it illegal, because they don't want to be tracked to their mistresses, bathroom stalls, and pages.
The police have been known to place a beacon on cars, which helps them locate and follow a suspect's vehicle. They still have to go out into the field and put some effort into it, and the device can help them continue to track a suspect worth getting off their asses to track.
Yeah, except: fucking with my property, is still fucking with my property. Following me is not; this is the fundamental difference.
Well, you (mostly) had me, up until "eyeball tracking." Then, I realized that cops lie, and I would much rather have the veracity of my whereabouts determined by a machine that cannot (or, is less capable of uttering a?) lie. And even then, I'm not so sure, because police cameras have the surprising ability of turning off at just the right moment to not capture evidence of police brutality. (Like in Oakland, when the war vet got hit in the skull with the tear gas canister, when two news helicopter cameras "failed".) So I guess what I'm saying is, I tend to trust non-human reports more, but when they're potentially corrupted by corrupt humans, less so.
Yeah, exactly; his parent says "post pictures" and he says "all you need to do is ask"; am I time traveling again?
I disliked Bush
You like him now?
I wonder how much useful legislation would include LOL, STFU or WTF.
I think it would benefit society if the citizenry were able to add such comments to legislature. For instance, something like "50% or more 'wtf' comments and this law goes back in the bag." (Of course, then you need to deal with astroturfing; "politicking is hard", as Barbie would say, if math wasn't.)
And I wouldn't say people are stupid, per se, but rather gather their information from sound bites.
In other words: decide on issues with faulty inputs. In fewer words, "stupid". Thanks for clarifying.
What? That's the best part, mod points. It's revenge time for all those times I got modded down! :-)
Um, how? Can you see who is modding you? If so, how can I?
Initial response nailed it. I just wanted to add what I've seen as someone's signature: "vote gridlock", it's the only solution in this uncertain environment.
Roz, is that you?
the way the TSA began and the way it is being pushed out beyond it's original boundaries with people advocating and supporting random vehicle searches on Interstates, shipping, busing, backscatter X-ray being used for major sporting events which will eventually trickle down to every public building and who knows how far beyond that...
Your comment just gave me a new insight to the new movie, "In Time". In this movie, people at birth are given a certain amount of time, after which they will be destroyed (similar to Logan's Run). People can spend this time on pleasures. I see traveling via the TSA as similar: there is a certain number of passes you can take through their radiation machines before you start exhibiting symptoms. Instead of "In Time", perhaps it could be "In Air", or "In Radiation".
I'd rather die a free man in my grave / than live as a puppet or a slave.
I'm not so sure about that, even though it appears obvious that you're quoting lyrics. A puppet could one day remove its strings, a slave could one day obtain freedom; a dead man can never rise up, regardless of how free he (thinks he) was.
Hmm. Sounds like Akamai is doing it wrong.
"Vote gridlock", has a nice ring to it.
Public officials already take an oath of office. We should amend this oath to make any lies whatsoever perjury.
Better yet, make it Treason.
Where's the brain bleach?
It's actual bleach. Or "Corn nuts!" if you prefer Drano-equivalent.
You are welcome, friend. :)
Europe under one flag, one currency, a Federated Superstate of homogenised regions ordered by *number* not *name*. The days of the Empire were numbered from that point on.
So, were those days of the Empire *named* prior to that point?
Um, the Department of Justice is part of the executive branch, not judicial.
Makes sense; the Department of Executions is part of the judicial branch, not executive.
Google needs a developer API.