Maybe Corel can auction off Wine machines (that Corel office first emulated on) to make payroll around October time.
Or maybe Confusious will auction off his new Athlon with 256 MB ram that has been rumored to run Star Office 5.2 and Mozilla at the same time (with almost enough memory and MIPS left for Confusious to play Mahjongg)...mmmm...sweeet
I don't know how the rest of the worlds jobs work, however -- if I take free products from any company (Jackets, TV's, Trips, etc...) that I am planning on doing bussiness with -- I will be looking for a new job....(Can anyone say CONFLICT OF INTEREST!!!)....Journalist's should have to live by the same code.
How can one define a standard (or set of standards), when there is no product to benchmark against that is 100% standards complient. This would be like NASA trying to talk about the "standard" way to travel to and live on Pluto....
Also -- I assume some of the brightest programmers around are working on IE and Mozilla, and they have had little success in meeting the standards....This should be a clue that either the standards are not feasable, or the path to meet those standards is not defined well enough...
I agree. I would much rather use an office suite that used native libraries rather than one that ran on top of a "kludgy" solution. (Applix 5 uses gtk+, so I would rather lose a few features, and pay my money to a company that really seems to "get the picture".....) I mean Wine is a noble effort and all, however I think Linux has progressed to the point where it should be "Shown in through the front door" rather than have to sneak in "through the back door".......
Why is this an issue if it has been determined that it is illegal to download songs from artists or labels that frown upon that?
If Metallica went to all the trouble to say I do not want you to obtain our music without springing the $15 bucks...I at least have the humanity to say...OK...and if I do download an illegal Metallica song, well then I should not feel "cheated" if their is annoying messages/sounds/warnings inserted throughout.... That is like a car thief claiming "bait and switch" when the ride he just ripped off from the lot has no CD player, when the window sticker cleary said "equipped with CD player" before he bashed it in...
Now if we start getting tainted versions of "Garage Band Blues" from unsighned bands (or other artists that have given the free trade of MP3's the thumbs up) then we can complain.... IMHO
Ok..When will I be able to pick up one of these cheap puppies at my local Best Buy or Circuit City??? I am prone to impulse buying -- and do not really trust to order something that may OR may not show up within a varible time frame of 6 days or 6 months.....(I would sure hate to be put on a waiting list -- and when my unit arrives, the 2nd gen's are already shipping....Hell, I don't mind being a pioneer -- I would just like the comfort of knowing that I would get to drive the thing around a few blocks, before next years model comes out.....)
Bottom line -- these things will remain vaporware until I can buy one "Off the shelf"....And play around with it a day or 2 before it becomes obsolete...
Several of the new Car CD Players have an "AUX in" plug in the front (so people can use the Mp3 players and Mini Disc's without the nasty "Tape and Chord Thingy'" I think most new AIWA (Sic?) have this option...
Does everyone have to make money on their web sites??? People should make money by selling products...Not content..This "get rich quick" shit is really dragging me down...Get a job people -- and if you want to pay $20 bucks a month for hosting, and run a website for a hobby -- than go for it...
From where I am standing it looks like they (all of the internet applience people that are deciding on Linux) will either: A. Fix Mozzilla to the point of usability B. Get very chummy with the Opera folks C. Take a look at what the KDE folks have done with the browser in KDE2.....(lookin good considering only a few people are working on it and it is really an afterthought) D. Fail
Uhhh...What does IMAP support have to do with rendering web pages?
Yes -- I have tried M16...and YES it is about like 15 with a few bugs rearranged and a bit slower, (but hey, what I hear is that it is just some "debugging" code)
I do not intend this to be flaimbait, and I like the whole open source -- have your cake and eat it to....But if their was one piece of software I would glady buy (and since I am not a gamer, I do have a few bucks left for commercial software) -- it would be that "mystical golden goose" that will some day come swooping in and be able to render pages fast and in complience, have a light feel, use a decent widget set (that looks similar to the other apps on my desktop), not try to second guess my decision to use Pine for my mail.....And when this comes, I will gladly pay my 25 bones -- point it to Freshmeat, and get on with my life:)
Her point was exactlly what I have had on my mind for the last little while....If you look on Napster or Gnutella, the majority of the music you find is what is "hip" today --- and what you are hearing on MTV and the Radio constantlly...
As a music lover who purchases many CD's a month, I would love to be able to use Napster or gnutella to find music that is out of print, and hard to find in the stores....If I want todays top 40, and Singles only, I can tune my Radio to a local station and press record:)
Confusious Say: "The worst day fishing, is better than the best day of work"
Translation: The worst sci-fi is better than a chick flick, or any one of those "Track the 30 year old high school seniors through those awkward last few weeks of school" movies...
I could not image 1 game making it worth my time to dig up a copy of Windows....I always thought I could by a Nintendo or something if I wanted to play games....Now if I see a message that says "Mozilla Goes Gold" I may be a bit more excited...(If nothing more than to see if it is faster and more stable than Netscape 2)
That was a great link. It has everything --- a bit of hacking, lots of spam info, and a bit of prOn....Great stuff...Wish it was my turn in the kharma bin -- I would pump this message up...
I can't help thinking that a book published on the web that was not about the web, or about computers in general; would have about as much chance of being "seen", as a garage band being discovered from Napster. Like one of the above posters said, the publishers do not have the market on trees, they have the ability to advertise and get your book into peoples faces as they walk into Barnes and Noble. Any similar approach on the web would require one to generate much spam, bad karma, and annoying banner ads.
I think it is a very perplexing issue, as to how one would properly advertise a product above "cult" status in the internet world yet keep the spam and ABA (annoying banner adds)out of the picture.
I think to be a success in providing support for Linux, a company would need to provide the same advantages that Linux itself provides. Take advantage of the open source model. Their would be no problem to big. If a (big)customer calls and can't get the SCSI cards working in the 500 pc's they just rolled out...Then the "support" company rolls out the "experts" and tweaks some code in an existing SCSI module, or programs a new one....And the customer gets results....I think anyone could build a searchable knowledge base from USENET postings....But to be a success, you would have to offer services that are pretty much unatainable by your average user. (Anyone can go to google)...I have thought in the past with people trying to make money from a "free" product....that the only money would be in support -- and that support would have to be TOP notch....And day to day business practices from companies making money, would have to resolve around a culture of dark basements and caffiene rather than spiffy conference rooms, cell phones, and IPO's.
Is it just me...Or are more and more Metallica CD's showing up in the "used" bins???
I usually spend a couple of hours a week looking through the used sections at different stores -- and since this whole Napster thing broke, I would bet a good chunk of cash that the amount of CD's "turned in" has been up 500%
Good job guys!!!....The only thing better is if we could have a "burn your metallica stuff" day....With a big bonfire and lots of press!!
Wow -- are all these lawsuits going to lead to a standard such as:
a submit button that says "Submit" will be in the public domain (because it's the default).
However
a submit button that says "Process" will be owned by whoever first claims copyright as the "enlightened" person who decided to use a thesaurus?
This could get really scary considering the amount of flexibility to be gained with XML...(Where in laymans terms, "new" tags and methods can be created...thus maybe copyrighted?)
Kind of like Russian Roulette Hu? I think they would only have to do 10 or 12 of the 330K+ in order to put a good scare in the rest.
This is a sad situation. I cannot stand to even look at my Metallica CD's anymore....Does anyone want to buy them from me???? I have...err...had been a big fan for a long time....(I remember scrawling a big lightning bolt on my gym locker in the Seventh Grade to celebrate their great follow up to kill em all')...However the general suckiness of anything after the ironically titled "And Justice For All"....Has softened the blow a bit....
Yea -- This will work when i am mowing the lawn....err...No -- I guess I am stuck with the "puny" 64 megs in my Rave....(Which can hold close to 35 songs encoded at 56K)
What about the bands that know they are not getting love from "Radio or MTV"...Their biggest want/need is promotion, so they can fill the seats at concerts and sell T-Shirts -- I believe in this case they would love Napster.....However, bands like Metallica who have had to console themselves to the fact that 95% of what their CD's sell for, is going to "Promote Them" (Into the record companies pockets), then I guess they figure that since 95% is going to "Promote Them via love from Radio & MTV/VH1"...Then they don't need any more promotion from the mp3 movement...... So be it......However, I bet things would be a lot different if this were the "Ride The Lightning" days, where it would be a cold day in hell before Radio would play them. They swore never to make videos, or sell out to the man (they lied their). I can guarentee they would have loved the 350,000+ napster users who were now potential concert goers, and t-shirt buyers, regardless of where they had been "exposed" to the music. Well -- I guess they can now sleep better at night.
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Confusious eyes a trend:
Maybe Corel can auction off Wine machines (that Corel office first emulated on) to make payroll around October time.
Or maybe Confusious will auction off his new Athlon with 256 MB ram that has been rumored to run Star Office 5.2 and Mozilla at the same time (with almost enough memory and MIPS left for Confusious to play Mahjongg)...mmmm...sweeet
Yea...A GPL frontal attack to make an "improved" office suite will make Mozilla look like hello world...
I don't know how the rest of the worlds jobs work, however -- if I take free products from any company (Jackets, TV's, Trips, etc...) that I am planning on doing bussiness with -- I will be looking for a new job....(Can anyone say CONFLICT OF INTEREST!!!)....Journalist's should have to live by the same code.
How can one define a standard (or set of standards), when there is no product to benchmark against that is 100% standards complient. This would be like NASA trying to talk about the "standard" way to travel to and live on Pluto....
Also -- I assume some of the brightest programmers around are working on IE and Mozilla, and they have had little success in meeting the standards....This should be a clue that either the standards are not feasable, or the path to meet those standards is not defined well enough...
I agree. I would much rather use an office suite that used native libraries rather than one that ran on top of a "kludgy" solution. (Applix 5 uses gtk+, so I would rather lose a few features, and pay my money to a company that really seems to "get the picture".....) I mean Wine is a noble effort and all, however I think Linux has progressed to the point where it should be "Shown in through the front door" rather than have to sneak in "through the back door".......
IMHO
Why is this an issue if it has been determined that it is illegal to download songs from artists or labels that frown upon that?
If Metallica went to all the trouble to say I do not want you to obtain our music without springing the $15 bucks...I at least have the humanity to say...OK...and if I do download an illegal Metallica song, well then I should not feel "cheated" if their is annoying messages/sounds/warnings inserted throughout.... That is like a car thief claiming "bait and switch" when the ride he just ripped off from the lot has no CD player, when the window sticker cleary said "equipped with CD player" before he bashed it in...
Now if we start getting tainted versions of "Garage Band Blues" from unsighned bands (or other artists that have given the free trade of MP3's the thumbs up) then we can complain....
IMHO
Ok..When will I be able to pick up one of these cheap puppies at my local Best Buy or Circuit City??? I am prone to impulse buying -- and do not really trust to order something that may OR may not show up within a varible time frame of 6 days or 6 months.....(I would sure hate to be put on a waiting list -- and when my unit arrives, the 2nd gen's are already shipping....Hell, I don't mind being a pioneer -- I would just like the comfort of knowing that I would get to drive the thing around a few blocks, before next years model comes out.....)
Bottom line -- these things will remain vaporware until I can buy one "Off the shelf"....And play around with it a day or 2 before it becomes obsolete...
IMHO
Several of the new Car CD Players have an "AUX in" plug in the front (so people can use the Mp3 players and Mini Disc's without the nasty "Tape and Chord Thingy'" I think most new AIWA (Sic?) have this option...
> 1) Encoder/Software Name
> 2) Encoder/Codec version #
> 3) Encoder setting (Bitrate + options)
And I would like to add 1 more:
4) Source. (IE CD, LP, Radio, Cassette)
Does everyone have to make money on their web sites??? People should make money by selling products...Not content..This "get rich quick" shit is really dragging me down...Get a job people -- and if you want to pay $20 bucks a month for hosting, and run a website for a hobby -- than go for it...
IMHO
From where I am standing it looks like they (all of the internet applience people that are deciding on Linux) will either: A. Fix Mozzilla to the point of usability B. Get very chummy with the Opera folks C. Take a look at what the KDE folks have done with the browser in KDE2.....(lookin good considering only a few people are working on it and it is really an afterthought) D. Fail
Uhhh...What does IMAP support have to do with rendering web pages?
:)
Yes -- I have tried M16...and YES it is about like 15 with a few bugs rearranged and a bit slower, (but hey, what I hear is that it is just some "debugging" code)
I do not intend this to be flaimbait, and I like the whole open source -- have your cake and eat it to....But if their was one piece of software I would glady buy (and since I am not a gamer, I do have a few bucks left for commercial software) -- it would be that "mystical golden goose" that will some day come swooping in and be able to render pages fast and in complience, have a light feel, use a decent widget set (that looks similar to the other apps on my desktop), not try to second guess my decision to use Pine for my mail.....And when this comes, I will gladly pay my 25 bones -- point it to Freshmeat, and get on with my life
IMHO
Her point was exactlly what I have had on my mind for the last little while....If you look on Napster or Gnutella, the majority of the music you find is what is "hip" today --- and what you are hearing on MTV and the Radio constantlly...
:)
As a music lover who purchases many CD's a month, I would love to be able to use Napster or gnutella to find music that is out of print, and hard to find in the stores....If I want todays top 40, and Singles only, I can tune my Radio to a local station and press record
about the same time their is no market for a 69 Mustang....errrrr....NEVER!!!
But looking at you wacky kids nowdays -- anything is possible...
By the way -- I just purchased 3 CD's based on songs I heard from napster and gnutella...
Confusious Say: "The worst day fishing, is better than the best day of work"
Translation:
The worst sci-fi is better than a chick flick, or any one of those "Track the 30 year old high school seniors through those awkward last few weeks of school" movies...
I could not image 1 game making it worth my time to dig up a copy of Windows....I always thought I could by a Nintendo or something if I wanted to play games....Now if I see a message that says "Mozilla Goes Gold" I may be a bit more excited...(If nothing more than to see if it is faster and more stable than Netscape 2)
That was a great link. It has everything --- a bit of hacking, lots of spam info, and a bit of prOn....Great stuff...Wish it was my turn in the kharma bin -- I would pump this message up...
The website was like a hackers soap opera.
Cool
I can't help thinking that a book published on the web that was not about the web, or about computers in general; would have about as much chance of being "seen", as a garage band being discovered from Napster. Like one of the above posters said, the publishers do not have the market on trees, they have the ability to advertise and get your book into peoples faces as they walk into Barnes and Noble. Any similar approach on the web would require one to generate much spam, bad karma, and annoying banner ads.
I think it is a very perplexing issue, as to how one would properly advertise a product above "cult" status in the internet world yet keep the spam and ABA (annoying banner adds)out of the picture.
Confusious say: No company make money by selling free product and paying many many 100K per year employees.
Confusious type "apt-get upgrade" and laughs at any company that bets the farm on making themselves rich selling that which is free...
Confusious glad he has no money to invest in silly stock market...
I think to be a success in providing support for Linux, a company would need to provide the same advantages that Linux itself provides. Take advantage of the open source model. Their would be no problem to big. If a (big)customer calls and can't get the SCSI cards working in the 500 pc's they just rolled out...Then the "support" company rolls out the "experts" and tweaks some code in an existing SCSI module, or programs a new one....And the customer gets results....I think anyone could build a searchable knowledge base from USENET postings....But to be a success, you would have to offer services that are pretty much unatainable by your average user. (Anyone can go to google)...I have thought in the past with people trying to make money from a "free" product....that the only money would be in support -- and that support would have to be TOP notch....And day to day business practices from companies making money, would have to resolve around a culture of dark basements and caffiene rather than spiffy conference rooms, cell phones, and IPO's.
IMHO
Is it just me...Or are more and more Metallica CD's showing up in the "used" bins???
I usually spend a couple of hours a week looking through the used sections at different stores -- and since this whole Napster thing broke, I would bet a good chunk of cash that the amount of CD's "turned in" has been up 500%
Good job guys!!!....The only thing better is if we could have a "burn your metallica stuff" day....With a big bonfire and lots of press!!
IMHO
Wow -- are all these lawsuits going to lead to a standard such as:
a submit button that says "Submit" will be in the public domain (because it's the default).
However
a submit button that says "Process" will be owned by whoever first claims copyright as the "enlightened" person who decided to use a thesaurus?
This could get really scary considering the amount of flexibility to be gained with XML...(Where in laymans terms, "new" tags and methods can be created...thus maybe copyrighted?)
Hmmm...
Ok, now rinse and repeat for 330,541 more users.
Kind of like Russian Roulette Hu? I think they would only have to do 10 or 12 of the 330K+ in order to put a good scare in the rest.
This is a sad situation. I cannot stand to even look at my Metallica CD's anymore....Does anyone want to buy them from me???? I have...err...had been a big fan for a long time....(I remember scrawling a big lightning bolt on my gym locker in the Seventh Grade to celebrate their great follow up to kill em all')...However the general suckiness of anything after the ironically titled "And Justice For All"....Has softened the blow a bit....
My 2cents
Yea -- This will work when i am mowing the lawn....err...No -- I guess I am stuck with the "puny" 64 megs in my Rave....(Which can hold close to 35 songs encoded at 56K)
What about the bands that know they are not getting love from "Radio or MTV"...Their biggest want/need is promotion, so they can fill the seats at concerts and sell T-Shirts -- I believe in this case they would love Napster.....However, bands like Metallica who have had to console themselves to the fact that 95% of what their CD's sell for, is going to "Promote Them" (Into the record companies pockets), then I guess they figure that since 95% is going to "Promote Them via love from Radio & MTV/VH1"...Then they don't need any more promotion from the mp3 movement...... So be it......However, I bet things would be a lot different if this were the "Ride The Lightning" days, where it would be a cold day in hell before Radio would play them. They swore never to make videos, or sell out to the man (they lied their). I can guarentee they would have loved the 350,000+ napster users who were now potential concert goers, and t-shirt buyers, regardless of where they had been "exposed" to the music. Well -- I guess they can now sleep better at night.