I've seen a couple of recessions
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They really suck, but they do have a way of eroding one's illusions.
I don't have much faith in the welfare state. It concentrates too much power in the hands of the government. I've seen too much of human evil to ever trust a great concentration of power. I'm against both big business and big government, and people call me inconsistent. Huh?
I've got relatives who survived the great Depression. They taught me a thing or two about frugality and toughing it out, which was some help to me during the Ford and Carter era. But I'd rather learn how to be rich.
It was designed without abuse prevention in mind. All this anti-spam stuff for Usenet is after-the-fact kluges.
These discussion group sites give us chance to start over and do it better. Remember Fred Brooks' theory of the second system. It would be only a slight exaggeration to say that Usenet is a throwaway implementation.
Judging from the results, Kuro5hin also needs some work. I really liked the features, but robustness in a hostile environment is obviously lacking.
There's nothing local about attacks of this sort. They cross subnet boundaries. The victim is in one place, the attackers are all over the globe. What can a "beat cop" do?
On the other hand, maybe a burbclave mentality would work. Turn `em back at the firewall (or at least the Digest handshake) if they haven't got a pass. So it becomes an issue of authentication.
Scripts don't spontaneously generate themselves, not they emerge from primordial slime due to rndom processes and natural selection. Somebody has to write these root kits and exploits.
That's the enemy. The script kiddies are pawns. Either we find the mastermind, or we construct our defenses so as to render the point moot. I think the latter course shows more promise of useful results.
You can do this on a very low level, say between the listen() and the accept() call. Very localized, very efficient.
And application independent, too. Do it as a patch to Apache, and everybody can guard against this sort of attack.
Dunno about the other two. #1 has too much plumbing involved. #3 could penalize the clueless innocents whose systems have been compromised. We want to give them a dope slap, not have them attacked by an angry mob.
I can understand calling them idiots if you are referring to moral idiocy. But suggesting that they lack mental competence?
Let's be realistic. They pulled this off. That means they're not complete morons.
We've got a real problem here. Disparaging the enemy doesn't help anything. In fact, it's kind of childish. These people are resourceful enough to be a concern. Let's take them seriously so we can beat them.
I see this as a war. The enemy, for whatever dark reason, has seen fit to attack us. They have the technical skill to do some real damage. We need to fight back, and not just with words. We need:
1) Better defenses. Way better. 2) A strategy for counterattack, preferably legal.
and optionally:
3) a way to win the war, so we can get on with our lives.
Dammit, I want Kuro5hin back. I don't have time for whining. Let's get focussed, people.
I can't believe people are taking this blather seriously.
Someday soon, Microsoft will make it possible to brush your teeth telepathically. And the toothpaste will be made of nanobots. Any day now, just you wait. We are SOOOOO innovative, and the government is so mean to us for no reason.
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They really suck, but they do have a way of eroding one's illusions.
I don't have much faith in the welfare state. It concentrates too much power in the hands of the government. I've seen too much of human evil to ever trust a great concentration of power. I'm against both big business and big government, and people call me inconsistent. Huh?
I've got relatives who survived the great Depression. They taught me a thing or two about frugality and toughing it out, which was some help to me during the Ford and Carter era. But I'd rather learn how to be rich.
It was designed without abuse prevention in mind. All this anti-spam stuff for Usenet is after-the-fact kluges.
These discussion group sites give us chance to start over and do it better. Remember Fred Brooks' theory of the second system. It would be only a slight exaggeration to say that Usenet is a throwaway implementation.
Judging from the results, Kuro5hin also needs some work. I really liked the features, but robustness in a hostile environment is obviously lacking.
Let's see.. no actual damage or sabotage, just exposure. They could argue invasion of privacy, entrapment.
Any legal eagles want to comment?
There's nothing local about attacks of this sort. They cross subnet boundaries. The victim is in one place, the attackers are all over the globe. What can a "beat cop" do?
On the other hand, maybe a burbclave mentality would work. Turn `em back at the firewall (or at least the Digest handshake) if they haven't got a pass. So it becomes an issue of authentication.
Scripts don't spontaneously generate themselves, not they emerge from primordial slime due to rndom processes and natural selection. Somebody has to write these root kits and exploits.
That's the enemy. The script kiddies are pawns. Either we find the mastermind, or we construct our defenses so as to render the point moot. I think the latter course shows more promise of useful results.
You can do this on a very low level, say between the listen() and the accept() call. Very localized, very efficient.
And application independent, too. Do it as a patch to Apache, and everybody can guard against this sort of attack.
Dunno about the other two. #1 has too much plumbing involved. #3 could penalize the clueless innocents whose systems have been compromised. We want to give them a dope slap, not have them attacked by an angry mob.
I can understand calling them idiots if you are referring to moral idiocy. But suggesting that they lack mental competence?
Let's be realistic. They pulled this off. That means they're not complete morons.
We've got a real problem here. Disparaging the enemy doesn't help anything. In fact, it's kind of childish. These people are resourceful enough to be a concern. Let's take them seriously so we can beat them.
I see this as a war. The enemy, for whatever dark reason, has seen fit to attack us. They have the technical skill to do some real damage. We need to fight back, and not just with words. We need:
1) Better defenses. Way better.
2) A strategy for counterattack, preferably legal.
and optionally:
3) a way to win the war, so we can get on with our lives.
Dammit, I want Kuro5hin back. I don't have time for whining. Let's get focussed, people.
Rusty responded that this sort of approach hadn't worked on Slahdot. I still think it's worth a try. Maybe after everybody's calmed down over there.
really up to: Copyright Infringement and the FBI
Yeah, there's a market for that. And Microsoft knows just how to appeal to it.
I can't believe people are taking this blather seriously.
Someday soon, Microsoft will make it possible to brush your teeth telepathically. And the toothpaste will be made of nanobots. Any day now, just you wait. We are SOOOOO innovative, and the government is so mean to us for no reason.
Wow. That's the best euphemism for porn I've ever seen.