What might be interesting, would be if google (or another search engine) used the same information as part of its ranking, so if a site that has a low reputation hosts a page with your keywords, the likelyhood is you're probably not interested.
Is there a system for removing an IP address from the list?
What happens if you are on a server with a dodgy site, but you share the IP address?
When I read the title I thought somebody was talking about introducing dinasours into North America, Elephants aren't very mega and cheetas certainly aren't.
Would they be able to sue if I'd bought a storage farm and started archiving the web. In 10 years time when I have 100,000 Terrabytes of data, and wish to use some of it in a legal defense is that illegal?
Is there any difference between that and whats happened here. It was in the public domain then, how is it suddenly no longer so?
This is just brilliant. I had a the honor of having one of my photos used in the anti patents posters. I am very happy that someone has made them see sense.
Wasnt Microsoft recently on the recieving end of a rediculous patent decision. Something about someone having a patent on embedded objects in hypertext documents. I believe they have recieved quite a lot of support against this from their usual competitors (adobe, macromedia, ibm etc), those who cry foul when microsoft does something just like this.
I suppose the business world is very forgetting. Or perhaps Microsoft dont intend to exercise the patent, and just want to make sure no one else gets it.
and on a side - whats the use of it only being patented in New Zealand?
There is a technology which is out there could be put to good effect in an area such as this. I've always felt that it would be great to have a two teir internet. One tier is an authenticated, non anonymous Internet, where you log on and every site you visit knows who you are. This solves some problems, such as having to create new accounts for every website you go to, allows shops to track your habits etc, all the things that happen to us in the real world whenever we use a credit card. If you dont like it dont use it.
A second teir then is provided for people who want to be anonymous. This is how the internet works today.
This way the big companies get what they want (ability to control and track us as consumers) and the people get what they want (most people just want to go online, buy something, look at some sites with as little hassle as possible. The second Tier which is anonymous continues to provide all the freedoms that more indepth net users wish to have.
Best of both worlds.
The astute among you will realise that to an extent this is what Microsoft tried to do with Passport but it was doomed to failure, not because it was a bad idea but because it was Microsoft. No one was going to let Microsoft have all that information so noone got involved.
Obviously a central repository of Personal details (only actually has to store a person name and a Globally unique ID - information relevant to each individual site can be held at the site) will cost money, so let the companies that sign up for it pay the price. They get customers willing to use it because its trustworthy, people are more willing to log in, because they dont have to remember yet another login and password.
Now why not set this up as a W3C standard, with a company (a bit like network solutions for domains) assigned to handle it and all companies wishing to implement it paying for it.
I have to firmly agree. I am absolutely on Microsofts side, and everything that people say about microsoft aside it hasnt patented the idea of an OS. No matter how much you hate them they cant do anything to prevent people from writing or using other OS'es. Microsoft losing this would be the worst thing that could happen to the future of software (with no exceptions, even microsoft being given a monopoly on everything it already has wouldnt be as bad).
As others point out EOLAS wins and all it does is promote the idea of destroying any ability for anyone to write software. You wont be able to create free software if you have to pay 50 differnt companies patent rights before you can release your software. This will stiffle inovation more than Microsoft could in its wildest dreams.
Say what you like about microsoft, at least they support software producting, they along with a lot of other companies got rid of runtime fees on their development tools, to encourage software (yes only because they knew it would sell more copies of windows). They understand the business and know that software most grow and evolve in order for microsoft to grow and evolve.
This company Eolas simply wants to make money and they dont seem to care that they will be biting the hand that feeds them (Silly software patents aside - ie. They just shouldnt be allowed to even contemplate doing this).
The development comunity at large must support microsoft on this one, if the government see that all the people who have been bitching that Microsoft and bill are satan are suddenly supporting them, they may realise that something important is happening.
This makes me Sick!
We need an organisation, a organised stoppage. A Global Developer Union. "Sort out software patents or every single developer around the world will go on strike.
The problem with XP as with many bits of software that microsoft has produced over the years (dare I mention VB) is that Microsoft doesnt like people who know how to use computers (unless you use their enterprise software where you need an MS degree). So they make it all cutesy, make it maybe 10% easier to do 20% of things and about 50% more difficutl to do the other 80%.
If you know what your doing with a Windows PC microsoft will try to make you learn all over again.
Windows 2000 made me like Microsoft - Windows XP is quickly turning me off them.
Wouldnt it be great if the money fined went to all the people across europe who had bought all these high priced games!! Though I think thats unlikely to happen as it will no doubt go into the bottomless pit of the EU.
In the end the end user ends up paying this fine as although prices might come down in europe they will no doubt go up in the UK.
I enjoyed farscape in it's first season. I found it had interesting characters, a really good storyline and lots of wacky stuff going on. However I'm not surprised they are cancelling it, because its impossible to follow.
I missed a couple of episodes at the end of season one begining season two and when I started watching it again had not idea at all as to what was going on. This is excellent from a interest point of view, but not great for picking up new viewers along th eline.
I watched the BBC Documentary where this revelation was made, and the feeling I got was this. The hackers (Crakers?) overloaded other systems which swamped the comunication system for among other things the vital signs of the crew. Nasa have lots of backups and so they were able to continue working. I think it had little effect on the mission. I think the point the BBC (and NASA) were making was that it COULD of been worse.
Hmm. I'm not sure that that will be the case for much longer. The whole basis of the EU is that eventually things like this will be uniform across all the countries in the EU. Its only a matter of time.
Surely the most basic difficulty with the idea is the fact that even if the data is replicated enough times to ensure it is always available in at least one copy, it may never be found!
If I was a university professor, I would be much more worried about the article being present in the same place it was when my student used it in an assignment, than whether or not it existed at all. If the "place" the knowledge is, isnt fixed then it would be necessary to uniquely identify each copy of an article, otherwise you wouldnt know if it was a true copy.
This is obviously a problem that needs to be tackled, but isnt the correct place for it to be tackled somewhere like the library of congress. The Library of Congress (and its counterparts worldwide) already get a copy of each and ever article, magazine, book etc printed. Would this not be the obvious place to locate an online scientific journal repository? They are'nt going to go out of business!
Excuse me, but no-one seems to have realised that this is a case of another really stupid patent, whose ever it is! A patent on using a computer by voice. I thought patent were supposed to show that some real brain power had gone into getting an idea, not just some stupid get rich quick scheme based upon your patent being eventually used by some one bigger, because its so damn obvious. I'm sure the patent owner are thrilled that IBM are infringing it, as it gives them a way of making money without actually doing any work. What is happening when everyone turns a blind eye to the fact that this should never have been accepted for a patent in the first place. Its rediculous.
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What might be interesting, would be if google (or another search engine) used the same information as part of its ranking, so if a site that has a low reputation hosts a page with your keywords, the likelyhood is you're probably not interested.
Is there a system for removing an IP address from the list?
What happens if you are on a server with a dodgy site, but you share the IP address?
But do you not think that cheetahs shouldnt be Mega, it just doesnt seem to do the word justice.
When I read the title I thought somebody was talking about introducing dinasours into North America, Elephants aren't very mega and cheetas certainly aren't.
I'll go back to bed now.
Would they be able to sue if I'd bought a storage farm and started archiving the web. In 10 years time when I have 100,000 Terrabytes of data, and wish to use some of it in a legal defense is that illegal?
Is there any difference between that and whats happened here. It was in the public domain then, how is it suddenly no longer so?
This is just brilliant. I had a the honor of having one of my photos used in the anti patents posters. I am very happy that someone has made them see sense.
Wasnt Microsoft recently on the recieving end of a rediculous patent decision. Something about someone having a patent on embedded objects in hypertext documents. I believe they have recieved quite a lot of support against this from their usual competitors (adobe, macromedia, ibm etc), those who cry foul when microsoft does something just like this.
I suppose the business world is very forgetting. Or perhaps Microsoft dont intend to exercise the patent, and just want to make sure no one else gets it.
and on a side - whats the use of it only being patented in New Zealand?
Toby
There is a technology which is out there could be put to good effect in an area such as this. I've always felt that it would be great to have a two teir internet. One tier is an authenticated, non anonymous Internet, where you log on and every site you visit knows who you are. This solves some problems, such as having to create new accounts for every website you go to, allows shops to track your habits etc, all the things that happen to us in the real world whenever we use a credit card. If you dont like it dont use it.
A second teir then is provided for people who want to be anonymous. This is how the internet works today.
This way the big companies get what they want (ability to control and track us as consumers) and the people get what they want (most people just want to go online, buy something, look at some sites with as little hassle as possible. The second Tier which is anonymous continues to provide all the freedoms that more indepth net users wish to have.
Best of both worlds.
The astute among you will realise that to an extent this is what Microsoft tried to do with Passport but it was doomed to failure, not because it was a bad idea but because it was Microsoft. No one was going to let Microsoft have all that information so noone got involved.
Obviously a central repository of Personal details (only actually has to store a person name and a Globally unique ID - information relevant to each individual site can be held at the site) will cost money, so let the companies that sign up for it pay the price. They get customers willing to use it because its trustworthy, people are more willing to log in, because they dont have to remember yet another login and password.
Now why not set this up as a W3C standard, with a company (a bit like network solutions for domains) assigned to handle it and all companies wishing to implement it paying for it.
With the above ideas everyones happy.
I have to firmly agree. I am absolutely on Microsofts side, and everything that people say about microsoft aside it hasnt patented the idea of an OS. No matter how much you hate them they cant do anything to prevent people from writing or using other OS'es. Microsoft losing this would be the worst thing that could happen to the future of software (with no exceptions, even microsoft being given a monopoly on everything it already has wouldnt be as bad).
As others point out EOLAS wins and all it does is promote the idea of destroying any ability for anyone to write software. You wont be able to create free software if you have to pay 50 differnt companies patent rights before you can release your software. This will stiffle inovation more than Microsoft could in its wildest dreams.
Say what you like about microsoft, at least they support software producting, they along with a lot of other companies got rid of runtime fees on their development tools, to encourage software (yes only because they knew it would sell more copies of windows). They understand the business and know that software most grow and evolve in order for microsoft to grow and evolve.
This company Eolas simply wants to make money and they dont seem to care that they will be biting the hand that feeds them (Silly software patents aside - ie. They just shouldnt be allowed to even contemplate doing this).
The development comunity at large must support microsoft on this one, if the government see that all the people who have been bitching that Microsoft and bill are satan are suddenly supporting them, they may realise that something important is happening.
This makes me Sick!
We need an organisation, a organised stoppage. A Global Developer Union. "Sort out software patents or every single developer around the world will go on strike.
See how they like that.
The problem with XP as with many bits of software that microsoft has produced over the years (dare I mention VB) is that Microsoft doesnt like people who know how to use computers (unless you use their enterprise software where you need an MS degree). So they make it all cutesy, make it maybe 10% easier to do 20% of things and about 50% more difficutl to do the other 80%.
If you know what your doing with a Windows PC microsoft will try to make you learn all over again.
Windows 2000 made me like Microsoft - Windows XP is quickly turning me off them.
Wouldnt it be great if the money fined went to all the people across europe who had bought all these high priced games!! Though I think thats unlikely to happen as it will no doubt go into the bottomless pit of the EU.
In the end the end user ends up paying this fine as although prices might come down in europe they will no doubt go up in the UK.
I enjoyed farscape in it's first season. I found it had interesting characters, a really good storyline and lots of wacky stuff going on. However I'm not surprised they are cancelling it, because its impossible to follow.
I missed a couple of episodes at the end of season one begining season two and when I started watching it again had not idea at all as to what was going on. This is excellent from a interest point of view, but not great for picking up new viewers along th eline.
I watched the BBC Documentary where this revelation was made, and the feeling I got was this.
The hackers (Crakers?) overloaded other systems which swamped the comunication system for among other things the vital signs of the crew. Nasa have lots of backups and so they were able to continue working. I think it had little effect on the mission. I think the point the BBC (and NASA) were making was that it COULD of been worse.
Hmm. I'm not sure that that will be the case for much longer. The whole basis of the EU is that eventually things like this will be uniform across all the countries in the EU. Its only a matter of time.
If I was a university professor, I would be much more worried about the article being present in the same place it was when my student used it in an assignment, than whether or not it existed at all. If the "place" the knowledge is, isnt fixed then it would be necessary to uniquely identify each copy of an article, otherwise you wouldnt know if it was a true copy.
This is obviously a problem that needs to be tackled, but isnt the correct place for it to be tackled somewhere like the library of congress. The Library of Congress (and its counterparts worldwide) already get a copy of each and ever article, magazine, book etc printed. Would this not be the obvious place to locate an online scientific journal repository? They are'nt going to go out of business!
Excuse me, but no-one seems to have realised that this is a case of another really stupid patent, whose ever it is! A patent on using a computer by voice. I thought patent were supposed to show that some real brain power had gone into getting an idea, not just some stupid get rich quick scheme based upon your patent being eventually used by some one bigger, because its so damn obvious. I'm sure the patent owner are thrilled that IBM are infringing it, as it gives them a way of making money without actually doing any work. What is happening when everyone turns a blind eye to the fact that this should never have been accepted for a patent in the first place. Its rediculous.