That Murky News article had its facts a little mixed up. The real, though not as sensational (and thus not as slashdot-worthy), story is that Intel delayed the "Montecito" processor for a year so that it could make it dual-core. Read that sentence again (this means you). The original plan for Montecito was for it to be a single-core CPU. What they've just done is decided to make it dual-core and pushed back the schedule a year. Try reading a more accurate account in the EE Times.
<slashdork>Gee whiz, from my vast knowledge of the industry, I can see that Intel is going down the toilet. It takes them a whole year to design a dual-core processor! Egads!</slashdork>
Tablets even show up on Web auction site eBay, where bidding can start at $1.
Those cuneiform tablets are going for about $100 - $300 on ebay. I bet they'd make a great conversation piece. Not that I'd ever buy one. That would make me one of the plunder-ers.
Is it just me, or is the lack of mention under servers significant?
Don't get your panties in bunch, AC. HP just landed a deal to build the one of largest compute clusters ever. And guess what it's going to run....that's right, Linux. HP also sells business systems with Linux preinstalled. Plus they hired some of the big name Linux guys (Bruce Perens for one). What more do ya want?
Intel is pulling PA-RISC components out of IA64 in preferance to Alpha designs (SMT). Binary compatibility is endangered.
What does that mean? Like I said before, where are your facts? IA-64 has been in development for more than 5 years, completely separate from PA-RISC. What "PA-RISC components" are being exchanged for "Alpha designs?" I'm dying to know.
While there might/will be further iterations of PA-RISC, all acknowledge that the end-of-life is in sight, constantly presented on the map.
I think that's exactly what I said. Every architecture will become obsolete eventually. PA-RISC is on the way out in 5 years or more, but saying that it just got sold to Intel is incorrect. 5 years is a long time in this industry.
HP is farming out PA-RISC production to IBM, hoping that copper and SOI gives it enough boost to reduce R&D costs.
So you're saying that, because we started fabricating our chips in a better process, it means we're giving up on the architecture? Yeah, that seems pretty logical.
The porters of HP-UX to IA64 in NJ have been terminated.
Don't know what that has to do with PA-RISC.
...how much more evidence do you need that HP-UX/PA-RISC (and perhaps IA64) is doomed?
So your theory is that HP has decided to forget about the enterprise computing business entirely? I guess you're entitled to your opinion.
I am an engineer in HP's primary PA-RISC processor development lab. I still work for HP. I still work on PA-RISC chips as do hundreds of my co-workers. Let me be clear about this: HP is NOT getting rid of its PA-RISC line or selling it to Intel or anybody else.
The group that was transfered to Intel worked on chipset development for some of HP's servers and workstations. Because of the economic conditions, it was deemed unfeasible to keep that group in HP, so instead of laying them all off, a deal was worked out to give them jobs at Intel. I'd say the engineers in that group are in a lot better shape than many of my other co-workers across the company who just got layed off in August.
Anyway, my point is that PA-RISC isn't dead. There are still a lot of people working on both CPUs and chipsets. We will be doing a number of iterations yet of the PA processor family before HP transitions to using IPF in the long term (we're talking years from now). Ignore the classic/. sensationalist headline and try to get the facts.
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...for every copyright protection scheme ever invented! And for every one that ever will be invented, for that matter. Not only that, it contains my entire illegal mp3 collection (and yours too).
Am I in violation of the DMCA every time I divide the circumference of a circle by twice its radius? Hmmmmm....
Does anybody know how I can get different colors in my command prompt in ksh88? I tried a ksh color suggestion posted earlier but I think it must be for ksh93 because I couldn't get it to work.
By the way here is my prompt (for ksh):
PS1="$HOSTNAME:"'${PWD#${PWD%/*/*/*}/}'": "
It truncates the pwd so that you only see the last three directory levels. That way your prompt won't get opressively large.
...found that MP3 users buy as much or more conventional music media (CDs) as non-MP3 users. Admittedly, the study had a fairly small sample size, but it is much more professional and scientific than the above survey. It compares the habits of the two groups of music users with respect to things like discovering new artists, making compilations, and buying music. The results are very interesting to say the least.
Here's a good quote from the paper:
"...like the conventional music users, copying not only encouraged [MP3 users] to experiment with new music, but again did not appear to make them any more reluctant to buy CDs. In fact, some said that this had increased their music purchasing (a finding also confirmed by other questionnaire studies of MP3 users (Jupiter, 2000))"
Overall, the paper backs up pretty much everything that RIAA opponents have been arguing all along.
Here's the body of an email that I recieved this morning:
"Due to an anticipated voter turnout much larger
than originally expected, the polling facilities may not be able to handle the load all at once. Therefore, Republicans are requested to vote on Tuesday, November 7, and Democrats on Wednesday, November 8."
And, of course, the obligatory:
"Please pass this message along and help us to make
sure that nobody gets left out."
I guess you'd have to be pretty clueless to fall for it. Then again, I've seen a lot of people fall for email hoaxes much less believable than this one. I wonder how widespread this email has gotten. Anybody else seen it?
1.Companies must stop supporting old architectures, regardless of the reaction of consumers.
That'll happen as soon as these "companies" decide that they're tired of making a profit. Nobody cares if you've got the best ISA on the planet (except/. readers). If consumers won't buy it, companies won't sell it. As long as x86 platforms can do what Joe Public needs them to do (Unreal), Joe isn't gonna buy anything else.
Meanwhile Sun marches from strength to strength with its multiprocessor system and the solid SPARC chips. Intel, you could learn something about engineering from Sun.
I can't understand why a lot of people here seem to think that Sun is the all-knowing, untouchable God of Microprocessor/System design. Sun's systems consistently underperform when matched up against similar systems from almost all of their competitors.
Don't take my word for it, check out some of the benchmark results from the SPEC website. Sun's products are always near the bottom of the pile.
Not only are their products inferior, but they can't seem to deliver a new processor and they keep pushing back the schedule for the UltraSPARC III. I'm no Intel fan but I don't think that even they could learn anything from Sun's engineering.
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That Murky News article had its facts a little mixed up. The real, though not as sensational (and thus not as slashdot-worthy), story is that Intel delayed the "Montecito" processor for a year so that it could make it dual-core. Read that sentence again (this means you). The original plan for Montecito was for it to be a single-core CPU. What they've just done is decided to make it dual-core and pushed back the schedule a year. Try reading a more accurate account in the EE Times.
<slashdork>Gee whiz, from my vast knowledge of the industry, I can see that Intel is going down the toilet. It takes them a whole year to design a dual-core processor! Egads!</slashdork>
Tablets even show up on Web auction site eBay, where bidding can start at $1.
Those cuneiform tablets are going for about $100 - $300 on ebay. I bet they'd make a great conversation piece. Not that I'd ever buy one. That would make me one of the plunder-ers.
Is it just me, or is the lack of mention under servers significant?
Don't get your panties in bunch, AC. HP just landed a deal to build the one of largest compute clusters ever. And guess what it's going to run....that's right, Linux. HP also sells business systems with Linux preinstalled. Plus they hired some of the big name Linux guys (Bruce Perens for one). What more do ya want?
...is right in the middle where they had stuck an advertisement to buy Grand Theft Auto 3 for "only $44.99 on MSN.com."
Intel is pulling PA-RISC components out of IA64 in preferance to Alpha designs (SMT). Binary compatibility is endangered.
What does that mean? Like I said before, where are your facts? IA-64 has been in development for more than 5 years, completely separate from PA-RISC. What "PA-RISC components" are being exchanged for "Alpha designs?" I'm dying to know.
While there might/will be further iterations of PA-RISC, all acknowledge that the end-of-life is in sight, constantly presented on the map.
I think that's exactly what I said. Every architecture will become obsolete eventually. PA-RISC is on the way out in 5 years or more, but saying that it just got sold to Intel is incorrect. 5 years is a long time in this industry.
HP is farming out PA-RISC production to IBM, hoping that copper and SOI gives it enough boost to reduce R&D costs.
So you're saying that, because we started fabricating our chips in a better process, it means we're giving up on the architecture? Yeah, that seems pretty logical.
The porters of HP-UX to IA64 in NJ have been terminated.
...how much more evidence do you need that HP-UX/PA-RISC (and perhaps IA64) is doomed?
Don't know what that has to do with PA-RISC.
So your theory is that HP has decided to forget about the enterprise computing business entirely? I guess you're entitled to your opinion.
I am an engineer in HP's primary PA-RISC processor development lab. I still work for HP. I still work on PA-RISC chips as do hundreds of my co-workers. Let me be clear about this: HP is NOT getting rid of its PA-RISC line or selling it to Intel or anybody else.
/. sensationalist headline and try to get the facts.
The group that was transfered to Intel worked on chipset development for some of HP's servers and workstations. Because of the economic conditions, it was deemed unfeasible to keep that group in HP, so instead of laying them all off, a deal was worked out to give them jobs at Intel. I'd say the engineers in that group are in a lot better shape than many of my other co-workers across the company who just got layed off in August.
Anyway, my point is that PA-RISC isn't dead. There are still a lot of people working on both CPUs and chipsets. We will be doing a number of iterations yet of the PA processor family before HP transitions to using IPF in the long term (we're talking years from now). Ignore the classic
...for every copyright protection scheme ever invented! And for every one that ever will be invented, for that matter. Not only that, it contains my entire illegal mp3 collection (and yours too).
Am I in violation of the DMCA every time I divide the circumference of a circle by twice its radius? Hmmmmm....
Does anybody know how I can get different colors in my command prompt in ksh88? I tried a ksh color suggestion posted earlier but I think it must be for ksh93 because I couldn't get it to work.
By the way here is my prompt (for ksh):
PS1="$HOSTNAME:"'${PWD#${PWD%/*/*/*}/}'": "
It truncates the pwd so that you only see the last three directory levels. That way your prompt won't get opressively large.
...found that MP3 users buy as much or more conventional music media (CDs) as non-MP3 users. Admittedly, the study had a fairly small sample size, but it is much more professional and scientific than the above survey. It compares the habits of the two groups of music users with respect to things like discovering new artists, making compilations, and buying music. The results are very interesting to say the least.
Here's a good quote from the paper:
"...like the conventional music users, copying not only encouraged [MP3 users] to experiment with new music, but again did not appear to make them any more reluctant to buy CDs. In fact, some said that this had increased their music purchasing (a finding also confirmed by other questionnaire studies of MP3 users (Jupiter, 2000))"
Overall, the paper backs up pretty much everything that RIAA opponents have been arguing all along.
If you want to convert a jamma arcade cabinet to use with an emulator but don't have the cash to buy one of those Arcade2000 dealies, try this.
Here's the body of an email that I recieved this morning:
"Due to an anticipated voter turnout much larger than originally expected, the polling facilities may not be able to handle the load all at once. Therefore, Republicans are requested to vote on Tuesday, November 7, and Democrats on Wednesday, November 8."
And, of course, the obligatory:
"Please pass this message along and help us to make sure that nobody gets left out."
I guess you'd have to be pretty clueless to fall for it. Then again, I've seen a lot of people fall for email hoaxes much less believable than this one. I wonder how widespread this email has gotten. Anybody else seen it?
First they were announced in 1997 to be released in mid 1998.
Then they were "on track" for volume shipments by the end of 1999.
Now they finally have some of them in products in late 2000.
Very impressive. Heck, weren't we supposed to have UltraSparc IV's by now?
1.Companies must stop supporting old architectures, regardless of the reaction of consumers.
That'll happen as soon as these "companies" decide that they're tired of making a profit. Nobody cares if you've got the best ISA on the planet (except /. readers). If consumers won't buy it, companies won't sell it. As long as x86 platforms can do what Joe Public needs them to do (Unreal), Joe isn't gonna buy anything else.
Wow! 8GB of SDRAM in one device, eh? That thing is gonna dim all the lights in my neighborhood every time it does a refresh! :P
I can't understand why a lot of people here seem to think that Sun is the all-knowing, untouchable God of Microprocessor/System design. Sun's systems consistently underperform when matched up against similar systems from almost all of their competitors.
Don't take my word for it, check out some of the benchmark results from the SPEC website. Sun's products are always near the bottom of the pile.
Not only are their products inferior, but they can't seem to deliver a new processor and they keep pushing back the schedule for the UltraSPARC III. I'm no Intel fan but I don't think that even they could learn anything from Sun's engineering.