And your explanation of the divorce statistics are overly concise (to the point of error). I won't dispute your idiot theory (having no data handy), but even granting that, then it's the percentage of successful marriers that is actually much higher.
[I]f this discussion had taken place in, say, a business board room,...would you have stood up and called me a moron?
You incorrectly assume that the Internet should conform to the most formal of settings. What if the discussion had taken place in, say, a bar? How about in a frat house? People use "moron" in casual conversation all the time.
Yes, some people are rude online. So what? Exactly what consequences are you hoping to impose on people for their politically incorrect behavior?
Or how about banning the use of the video recorder? Yea, thats a good idea.
Okay, I don't know if sarcasm == awareness of irony, but that's exactly what the MPAA tried to do. They sued Sony(?) back in the day to get VCRs outlawed on the grounds that they could be used for video piracy. The Supreme Court said no. That's why the DMCA exists: it operates to close the fair use "loophole" that the Supreme Court loves to trot out.
Wrong. At worst, some uses of Napster may be construed as stealing. I own a large collection of audio casettes. Rather than plunk hundreds of dollars for CDs of songs I already own, I downloaded MP3s of them from Napster. I fail to see how this is theft (in case you think it matters, the sound quality is about the same).
You have taken something for which you are expected to pay for - it is stealing.
So, all I have to do is expect you to pay me for the privilege of reading this post, and suddenly you're a thief?
Keep on taking in refugees and immigrants from 3rd World countries and you will have the same situation. From the recent race riots in the UK, I'd say that at least the UK is already moving into that phase now.
Actually, I live the US. My question wasn't intended to be condescending, just an attempt to spark a new topic of conversation.
With paper, I can scan the previous and next hundred or so entries at a glance. You're assuming an ebook won't do this. Or that there won't be a browse mode.
Not really. What I'm assuming is that the displays on ebooks will remain small for the forseeable future. I think you missed the words "at a glance", which was the part I care about. Why go through the hassle of using some arbitrary navigation feature when I can merely dart my eyes about? I really enjoy using computers, but sometimes they require too much interaction.
Silly question. Those are probably the sixty who greased his palms. My S.O. was ticked because he was taking a fence-straddling stance, then became incensed when I pointed out that these sixty now have a perpetual competitive advantage over all new-comers to the field. Big business wins again.
...it's my opinion that a proprietary format is needed... I personally would prefer a more open design...
I recommend you look up the word "proprietary". A format doesn't need to be proprietary to be secure (see encryption algorithms). What you seem to want are "bloated" formats that can't be downloaded in a reasonable amount of time. In my opinion, a more sensible approach would be to price books low enough that fewer people pirate them.
One last thing: the works of William Shakespeare are in the public domain. No amount of copying of his works could possibly be illegal.
I suspect that someone using the find or search command would more quickly locate info then someone using the index or table of contents on a paper book...
Only if they're a good speller. If I misspell a word in a search command, it will (maybe) show me near-misses, but there's no guarantee the one I want will show up. With paper, I can scan the previous and next hundred or so entries at a glance. Another advantage is seeing entries you didn't intend to look for, but turn out to be useful. I for one will never get rid of my paper dictionaries, because on the way to looking up one word, I often learn three or four more. There's something to be said for imprecision.
Didn't you know that people who leave their decaying neighborhoods and move into the suburbs have been reclassified as evil? They are supposed to be tolerant of the crack heads next door, the gangsters on the corner, the illegal immigrants across the street, etc. and stay in the crossfire.
Ever stop to wonder why American neighborhoods decay in a few decades, but European cities thrive for centuries?
Incidentally, people who suggest that the law could be used against general-purpose things like 'dd', computers in general, or phone lines are spouting nonsense; perhaps they forget that Congressmen are people, and aren't that often blind idiots when it comes to writing laws and considering their scope.
The intelligence of Congressmen is a moot issue; once a law has been passed, it's out of their hands. Private plaintiffs can bring suits that clearly exceed the scope of the law, and win. The DoJ can prosecute individuals for acts that aren't actually criminal, and win.
Everyone knows that if you make that DeCSS code publically available, you're in for a world of hurt...
Thre reason "everyone knows" that is because the DVD-CCA brought this suit! You're practicing circular reasoning at its best. "He should've known he would get sued because they sued him."
Maybe not. In Festo Corp. v. Shoketsu Kinzoku Kogyo Kabushiki Co., the Federal Court of Appeals curtailed the strength of the Doctrine of Equivalents (it's currently on appeal to the Supreme Court). IANAL, and I'm not about to wade through the text of the decision, so I can't say anything intelligent about the kind of limits they imposed, but I thought you might be interested.
Can you honestly tell me that you enjoy songs that only work for a limited time, and all the other hassles DRM formats can give you? [and other rants against DRM]
Not at all! Obviously, my post wasn't very clear. The parent post to all this was about adoption of the format by manufacturers, and I was trying to indicate that because the RIAA is cramming DRM down their throats, they'll have an incentive not to support Ogg Vorbis. Over here, I explained that manufacturers will tend to want to support it because it's cheap and easy. It's really a question of where each manufacturer's comfort zone is. Since the RIAA might sue, but users won't, I think it'll end up that adoption of Ogg Vorbis by manufacturers will be slow.
On a personal note, when I first heard of Ogg Vorbis, I immediately re-ripped my CD collection. The only MP3s I have now are Napster downloads of my audio cassettes, and I'm hoping to replace those soon. I don't use portable music players right now, so the entire issue is academic to me.:-)
You don't. Hardware manufacturers, though, will find it appealing because (A) it's royalty-free; and (B) the codec is already written for them. As portable digital music players become more popular with the mainstream, these factors will make Vorbis more and more attractive to hardware developers looking to compete on price. I realize MP3 has "mind-share", but consumers are flighty. Already, MP3 is showing signs of its age, and MP3Pro had to be trotted out, so it is assumed that users will eventually switch to something else. Why not Ogg Vorbis?
...I'd like to have a program that could convert from mp3 to ogg.
No you wouldn't. MP3 and Ogg are both lossy formats. Converting from one to the other would result in noticeable distortions in the files. Your best bet for quality Oggs is to re-rip from the CDs.
It has no chance of support from MS, but if RealNetworks, Nullsoft and/or Apple add it to RealPlayer/Jukebox, Winamp and iTunes, then we might see a momentum shift.
I don't see this happening. Ogg Vorbis (like MP3) doesn't support DRM, which is the new "must-have" for music playing. Support will most likely remain "unofficial" for a long time.
Plus I don't imagine microsoft including Open Source code into their media player...
I'm pretty sure ogg vorbis source is under the BSD license (to encourage adoption). Remember: Microsoft only has a problem with the GPL (unless its talking to the mainstream press;-) ).
Are you aware that there are multiple people posting to slashdot? Just because two conflicting opinions were posted to the same forum, it does not follow that both opinions are (A) held by the same person; or (B) "the party line".
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Lovely. Yet another metric that can be used to mathematically prove I'm wasting my life.
Hear! Hear! This is very annoying.
The site slashdot.org wants to modify an existing cookie. Do you want to allow it?
Not really. What's the deal?
Science is all about finding the underlying beauty in the world.
No, science is about finding the underlying order in the world. Order may be considered beautiful, depending on the observer.
And your explanation of the divorce statistics are overly concise (to the point of error). I won't dispute your idiot theory (having no data handy), but even granting that, then it's the percentage of successful marriers that is actually much higher.
You're stacking the deck. Java's strength has always been on the server.
However, it's been 3 weeks since the guy's release from jail, and nearly a month and a half since his initial arrest.
No need for hyperbole. He was released on bail ten days ago (08-06), and arrested one month ago today (07-16).
[I]f this discussion had taken place in, say, a business board room, ...would you have stood up and called me a moron?
You incorrectly assume that the Internet should conform to the most formal of settings. What if the discussion had taken place in, say, a bar? How about in a frat house? People use "moron" in casual conversation all the time.
Yes, some people are rude online. So what? Exactly what consequences are you hoping to impose on people for their politically incorrect behavior?
Or how about banning the use of the video recorder? Yea, thats a good idea.
Okay, I don't know if sarcasm == awareness of irony, but that's exactly what the MPAA tried to do. They sued Sony(?) back in the day to get VCRs outlawed on the grounds that they could be used for video piracy. The Supreme Court said no. That's why the DMCA exists: it operates to close the fair use "loophole" that the Supreme Court loves to trot out.
Napster is stealing.
Wrong. At worst, some uses of Napster may be construed as stealing. I own a large collection of audio casettes. Rather than plunk hundreds of dollars for CDs of songs I already own, I downloaded MP3s of them from Napster. I fail to see how this is theft (in case you think it matters, the sound quality is about the same).
You have taken something for which you are expected to pay for - it is stealing.
So, all I have to do is expect you to pay me for the privilege of reading this post, and suddenly you're a thief?
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Keep on taking in refugees and immigrants from 3rd World countries and you will have the same situation. From the recent race riots in the UK, I'd say that at least the UK is already moving into that phase now.
Actually, I live the US. My question wasn't intended to be condescending, just an attempt to spark a new topic of conversation.
Not really. What I'm assuming is that the displays on ebooks will remain small for the forseeable future. I think you missed the words "at a glance", which was the part I care about. Why go through the hassle of using some arbitrary navigation feature when I can merely dart my eyes about? I really enjoy using computers, but sometimes they require too much interaction.
Where the hell did he get this 60 number from?
Silly question. Those are probably the sixty who greased his palms. My S.O. was ticked because he was taking a fence-straddling stance, then became incensed when I pointed out that these sixty now have a perpetual competitive advantage over all new-comers to the field. Big business wins again.
I recommend you look up the word "proprietary". A format doesn't need to be proprietary to be secure (see encryption algorithms). What you seem to want are "bloated" formats that can't be downloaded in a reasonable amount of time. In my opinion, a more sensible approach would be to price books low enough that fewer people pirate them.
One last thing: the works of William Shakespeare are in the public domain. No amount of copying of his works could possibly be illegal.
I suspect that someone using the find or search command would more quickly locate info then someone using the index or table of contents on a paper book...
Only if they're a good speller. If I misspell a word in a search command, it will (maybe) show me near-misses, but there's no guarantee the one I want will show up. With paper, I can scan the previous and next hundred or so entries at a glance. Another advantage is seeing entries you didn't intend to look for, but turn out to be useful. I for one will never get rid of my paper dictionaries, because on the way to looking up one word, I often learn three or four more. There's something to be said for imprecision.
Didn't you know that people who leave their decaying neighborhoods and move into the suburbs have been reclassified as evil? They are supposed to be tolerant of the crack heads next door, the gangsters on the corner, the illegal immigrants across the street, etc. and stay in the crossfire.
Ever stop to wonder why American neighborhoods decay in a few decades, but European cities thrive for centuries?
Incidentally, people who suggest that the law could be used against general-purpose things like 'dd', computers in general, or phone lines are spouting nonsense; perhaps they forget that Congressmen are people, and aren't that often blind idiots when it comes to writing laws and considering their scope.
The intelligence of Congressmen is a moot issue; once a law has been passed, it's out of their hands. Private plaintiffs can bring suits that clearly exceed the scope of the law, and win. The DoJ can prosecute individuals for acts that aren't actually criminal, and win.
we have a DMCA violation here!!!
A moot point, since the suit alleges violation of California trade secret laws, not Federal copyright laws.
Everyone knows that if you make that DeCSS code publically available, you're in for a world of hurt...
Thre reason "everyone knows" that is because the DVD-CCA brought this suit! You're practicing circular reasoning at its best. "He should've known he would get sued because they sued him."
Maybe not. In Festo Corp. v. Shoketsu Kinzoku Kogyo Kabushiki Co., the Federal Court of Appeals curtailed the strength of the Doctrine of Equivalents (it's currently on appeal to the Supreme Court). IANAL, and I'm not about to wade through the text of the decision, so I can't say anything intelligent about the kind of limits they imposed, but I thought you might be interested.
Can you honestly tell me that you enjoy songs that only work for a limited time, and all the other hassles DRM formats can give you? [and other rants against DRM]
Not at all! Obviously, my post wasn't very clear. The parent post to all this was about adoption of the format by manufacturers, and I was trying to indicate that because the RIAA is cramming DRM down their throats, they'll have an incentive not to support Ogg Vorbis. Over here, I explained that manufacturers will tend to want to support it because it's cheap and easy. It's really a question of where each manufacturer's comfort zone is. Since the RIAA might sue, but users won't, I think it'll end up that adoption of Ogg Vorbis by manufacturers will be slow.
On a personal note, when I first heard of Ogg Vorbis, I immediately re-ripped my CD collection. The only MP3s I have now are Napster downloads of my audio cassettes, and I'm hoping to replace those soon. I don't use portable music players right now, so the entire issue is academic to me. :-)
Why do I need Ogg?
You don't. Hardware manufacturers, though, will find it appealing because (A) it's royalty-free; and (B) the codec is already written for them. As portable digital music players become more popular with the mainstream, these factors will make Vorbis more and more attractive to hardware developers looking to compete on price. I realize MP3 has "mind-share", but consumers are flighty. Already, MP3 is showing signs of its age, and MP3Pro had to be trotted out, so it is assumed that users will eventually switch to something else. Why not Ogg Vorbis?
No you wouldn't. MP3 and Ogg are both lossy formats. Converting from one to the other would result in noticeable distortions in the files. Your best bet for quality Oggs is to re-rip from the CDs.
It has no chance of support from MS, but if RealNetworks, Nullsoft and/or Apple add it to RealPlayer/Jukebox, Winamp and iTunes, then we might see a momentum shift.
I don't see this happening. Ogg Vorbis (like MP3) doesn't support DRM, which is the new "must-have" for music playing. Support will most likely remain "unofficial" for a long time.
Plus I don't imagine microsoft including Open Source code into their media player ...
I'm pretty sure ogg vorbis source is under the BSD license (to encourage adoption). Remember: Microsoft only has a problem with the GPL (unless its talking to the mainstream press ;-) ).
Christ folks, make up your minds!
Are you aware that there are multiple people posting to slashdot? Just because two conflicting opinions were posted to the same forum, it does not follow that both opinions are (A) held by the same person; or (B) "the party line".