>Now, you have regulatory agencies that don't make laws at all but are given jurisdiction to make what is held as equivalent to law in that if you disobey their rules, you can be charged with a crime. This is not appropriate at all and everybody should be outraged that this is happening.
We learned this in Sociology 25 years ago. It happened in the 1930s. There's a great scene in The Great Gatsby, when Rockefeller-equivalent calls up "his" Senator and tries to get something done, still thinking personal influence matters... and some bureaucrat at the Federal Housing Authority of the time, given the power by Congress, blocks him just to spite the big guy.
Think of that, next time you watch the murder / suicide in the movie... trope, for the US.
Ah crap. 15 mod points to burn, and I just commented.
RTFA. Just *READ THE FUCKING ARTICLE.* This goes for you who are reading this, too.
(Mod parent down, as parent ignores something well-explained in the article, among other problems that make this a run-of-the-mill ignorant comment, not "insightful," not to mention a 1M+ UID claiming unique years deep experience out of their rear orifice.... all I can say, is that if Qualcomm paid this guy anything, they paid...)
>The original Internet wasn't built on trust, it was built by the government for military purposes in the sure and certain knowledge that the only people >that had the ability to mess with it knew what was likely to happen to them if they did.
Now now. It was built by BBN in co-operation with many at MIT. And like von Braun... they reinterpreted the instructions a bit, didn't they?
At least quadruple your hourly rate-- if not more. Your IP is yours. If they want it, make them pay. Otherwise-- you'll get nothing out of this, they'll exploit you, nothing more. That's all there is to it.
Read the FCC regs. No one is authorized to complain, and you must accept interference. Don't know if the zone trumps that, but you're telling me that no plane with WiFi flies within 200 miles? There's BS here, somewhere.
#1 is an isolated incident which is not representative. It was also widely publicized and led to several rulings saying that IPs did not identify individuals.
Re #2, you have failed to show that Cox or any ISP has actually enforced their scare clause, or that it is a legally enforcable contractual clause.
I'll grant you 3 as reasonable. I think 1 and 2 are not; I think they're spreading Fear, Uncertainly, and Doubt. You don't have a reasonable basis for 1 and 2, and you're too much of a coward to find out. I'm not a coward. If an ISP wants to try to shut off my service due to unconscionable terms in their TOS, they can do so, I'll get another ISP, and they'll get a lawsuit.
Stepping back into the real world, there is no evidence that #1 or #2 have every happened in enough numbers to worry. I'm more likely to get hit by a car crossing the street in 10 minutes from now. Fearing less likely events is absurd.
See above. SFLan guy here, operated a wide variety of open APs since '97 or. No problems with TOS, because those TOS are unenforceable. I'd love if some ISP would try to enforce: that's why I've got an EFF lawyer's phone # in my contacts. They won't. So you're FUD, just FUD, simply FUD.
Horseshit. Former SFLan guy here. I leave my home WiFi open via captive portal. We serve the whole building (8 units) via one connection. "Just leave it open" is silly, but you just don't get it.
Plus, you have a huge loss control issue. I suspect most small businesspeople don't even get that this issue is there, because most small businesspeople = bad businesspeople.
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The OP has been reported to the NSA... oh, nevermind, they're already monitoring. See the van nextdoor? :P
>Now, you have regulatory agencies that don't make laws at all but are given jurisdiction to make what is held as equivalent to law in that if you disobey their rules, you can be charged with a crime. This is not appropriate at all and everybody should be outraged that this is happening.
We learned this in Sociology 25 years ago. It happened in the 1930s. There's a great scene in The Great Gatsby, when Rockefeller-equivalent calls up "his" Senator and tries to get something done, still thinking personal influence matters... and some bureaucrat at the Federal Housing Authority of the time, given the power by Congress, blocks him just to spite the big guy.
Think of that, next time you watch the murder / suicide in the movie... trope, for the US.
Ah crap. 15 mod points to burn, and I just commented.
RTFA. Just *READ THE FUCKING ARTICLE.* This goes for you who are reading this, too.
(Mod parent down, as parent ignores something well-explained in the article, among other problems that make this a run-of-the-mill ignorant comment, not "insightful," not to mention a 1M+ UID claiming unique years deep experience out of their rear orifice.... all I can say, is that if Qualcomm paid this guy anything, they paid ...)
> My planes have never had problems.
That's amusing. Kind of like saying, the STS flights I flew on, never had any problems with the O-Rings...
(hat tip to Mr. Feynman...)
>The original Internet wasn't built on trust, it was built by the government for military purposes in the sure and certain knowledge that the only people
>that had the ability to mess with it knew what was likely to happen to them if they did.
Now now. It was built by BBN in co-operation with many at MIT. And like von Braun... they reinterpreted the instructions a bit, didn't they?
Mod parent up. Please link to original if possible. Thanks.
Worth a mention:
http://www.iesc.org/geekcorps
Mod parent up.
It's not an *attack*.
That is all.
At least quadruple your hourly rate-- if not more. Your IP is yours. If they want it, make them pay. Otherwise-- you'll get nothing out of this, they'll exploit you, nothing more. That's all there is to it.
Aie, you'da bloody well loved double DST during the Blitz, mate. Back when we'da shot whiners like you, except we needed the cannon fodder.
You are aware than less than 1.5% of the US lives on farms, right?
There's a WiFi transmitter within 100 miles of that dish, with nothing but plain air separating, at least 14 hours a day.
Read the FCC regs. No one is authorized to complain, and you must accept interference. Don't know if the zone trumps that, but you're telling me that no plane with WiFi flies within 200 miles? There's BS here, somewhere.
#1 is an isolated incident which is not representative. It was also widely publicized and led to several rulings saying that IPs did not identify individuals.
Re #2, you have failed to show that Cox or any ISP has actually enforced their scare clause, or that it is a legally enforcable contractual clause.
That is all.
I'll grant you 3 as reasonable. I think 1 and 2 are not; I think they're spreading Fear, Uncertainly, and Doubt. You don't have a reasonable basis for 1 and 2, and you're too much of a coward to find out. I'm not a coward. If an ISP wants to try to shut off my service due to unconscionable terms in their TOS, they can do so, I'll get another ISP, and they'll get a lawsuit.
Stepping back into the real world, there is no evidence that #1 or #2 have every happened in enough numbers to worry. I'm more likely to get hit by a car crossing the street in 10 minutes from now. Fearing less likely events is absurd.
PP is a lie. Yes, this happened to *one* person. It wasn't as bad as the PP said. Over and done with.
Hmm. Belkin. Linksys. These are a few companies, that have guest defaults on routers, out-of-the-box.
See above. SFLan guy here, operated a wide variety of open APs since '97 or. No problems with TOS, because those TOS are unenforceable. I'd love if some ISP would try to enforce: that's why I've got an EFF lawyer's phone # in my contacts. They won't. So you're FUD, just FUD, simply FUD.
SFLan guy here. I've operated open APs since '97 or so. No problems. Period. FUD. You're spreading FUD.
Bravo! :)
I like the British Telecomm model in UK.
They provider router and manage. You decide whether you want it open to BT's network.
If you close, you don't get access to the BT network. If you open, you get a user/pass that can be used on every open BT WiFi router in the UK.
Works pretty well. No US company would ever think of doing something so simple and effective.
Horseshit. Former SFLan guy here. I leave my home WiFi open via captive portal. We serve the whole building (8 units) via one connection. "Just leave it open" is silly, but you just don't get it.
Plus, you have a huge loss control issue. I suspect most small businesspeople don't even get that this issue is there, because most small businesspeople = bad businesspeople.
C) Chargeback protection.