It'll also stop casual viewing. I wouldn't install a plug in just to look at a picture, even if some "friend" (person who I haven't seen in 10 years) told me it [...] gotta see it.
Though steganography itself is different from full encryption, I got a big kick out of your putting my own post inside the malachite pic, plus being honest and informative: now I know about outguess.
We would need to wait till HTML5 is here; its built-in magic might suffice to implement a viewer. But then how do they inject that code into facebook so that nobody has to grab the viewer on their own?
Their Auto-tagger scans faces and asks users for the names of every face it has already framed in your pictures, and FB also does resizing and thumbnailing that clearly know when picture data is *not* what they're parsing after the upload. Facebook also isn't going to let you upload something that's clearly a noisy and corrupted JPEG file.
They already changed their uploader so it compresses your images before they go out, and all I need is a slashdotter with an FB account to confirm that they can't even start to upload a binary disguised as a JPEG.
This is the same thing that happens with Operating Systems' need for versioning. What does the board plan, "reflexion" API's where each dev must ask the browser what it can do and assume the missing features in the ethereal standard are enough for the page to render 3 years from now? 10 years from now?
Just like an OS, the standard can drop features at any time; the point of numbers is to tell the dev from an easy test what stylesheets to junk and what error messages to give.
All those Yahoo users will just be injected into the Google and Bing bloodstreams. Haven't you noticed that when a website fails on modern browsers and people get tired of refreshing, they just move on to the search widget right next to the URL bar? What's the default search engine on those? How many people use search bar daily because they have no idea what the URL bar to its left does?
Does bypassing them without doing any educational growing up count? You won't feel the same if you think you're turning off your firewall because your kid is "grown" when someone else did all the work.
They can learn from other kids in their classes, just like they learn the rest about sex without our help and from links in their gaming forums. We've already seen 13-year-olds asking how they can bypass security at forums, and they usually good receive tips on proxies and default router passwords (which no slashdotter will fall for, but we're only a small portion of the real "victims" here.)
If you live in the USA, you know that every major kids program and related advertising out there lures them to shopping-related content and educational activities --the ads say "Please ask for your parents permission to go online and play with Dora [flash games with your favorite TV show chars]."
If you know Americans, who are king amongst the time-spent-vegging-near-the-TV world, you'll also know the sad reality that parents don't monitor their kids closely... they unwittingly teach them from ages 3 and up that the TV as a babysitter device since it keeps them from wrecking the house and all. Sadly, the computer is starting to capture that role for the older kids, and parents just say "I left you playing that Nickelodeon channel game and fell asleep"
A little known fact is that starting in 2006, MS gifted its Vista and later OSs with Parental controls enforceable for non-admin accounts. It blocks DVDs, games and even has time-of-day restrictions (uTorrent-like-scheduler GUI) and website white-lists / blacklists (the latter has logging avaiable to any Admin account also), the same as any modern TV's for off-the-air TV in the USA.
The problem is that few people know or care to use these controls. Fortunately, you guys may benefit now that you know. I don't have Seven, and it rubs me the wrong way that the demo video I linked lacks the "Windows Web filter" button... they may have moved it elsewhere or "decided" we don't need this kinda power anymore.
Start services.msc with admin rights and Disable the "Google updater service." The sooner you do it, the better, since it Chrome checks at every boot and updates ultra-silently --none of that Mozilla courtesy.
I failed to mention here that because firefox == miriads of extensions that expect a status bar, developers just lost the natural place to show you a quick download countdown, unread e-mail status, current temperatures, adblock and noscript domain controls and maybe even translation toggle options. Guess which place is perfect for devs to want to migrate to now? Our shrinking URL bars!:)
You were correct until GUI standards changed. Everyone before IE7 has designed a shorter URL bar than the expected status bar's size of near-window-width. We're getting short-changed.
URL bars now give up valuable room for back, refresh, home, our obligatory search bar. It gets worse with site icons, add-to-favorites stars, RSS indicators, down arrows for history, "GO" buttons, Firefox's domain confirmation in green for HTTPS sites... and more importantly uselessly long links like: "http://tech.slashdot.org/story/11/01/15/0238253/Firefox-4-Beta-9-Out-Now-With-IndexedDB-and-Tabs-On-Titlebar" that are made NOT to fit on the URL bar without H-scrolling, let alone on 4:3 screens.
Rarely is a link you're following going to be short enough for this new "logical spot" that is underprepared to handle the job of the original statusbar. I won't complain that much... we got back some vertical space that we lost on widescreens.
Can anyone running the beta tell me if the "Personas" skins they mainstreamed in 3.6 are broken in 4.0 ? It would be sad to see them go, since I love monochrome themes for myself and colorful ones for the family. The latter allows me to tell from the other side of the room that they're using the correct browser when an issue is "called out" to me. I digress... any brokenness means that they went from 3.6 support to abandonment in a single release, where 3.7 is AKA 4.0. Chrome changes version numbers all the time, and they rarely update their general GUI.
Apparently users love it when 30+ years of interface design (DOS-era menus, not pine or BASIC.exe's bottom-laying ones) is removed without giving mainstream users a single "did you know?" pop-up on how to use the new system or revert it. To Whom do we owe the pleasure of this arbitrary feature? Believe it or not, to MS Office 2007's orb menu. Forums show people think the menu disappearance is a bug and not a feature (File/print and Edit/copy and paste is used by millions of non-savvy users who never click on buttons and never right-click.) They're in for a surprise again.
Oh, add Opera to your list. All major browsers in the EU browser ballot are or will soon be menu-less out of the box, except for Safari.
In October 2010 google announced 23,331 fulltime employees. Rounding to 25k and keeping everything else fixed, salaries would need to lose an average $260 USD per employee to pay for the license.
Changing this to R&D resources instead, $6,500,000 USD / $100k* we get that they would be unable to hire ~60 engineers. Think of all the lost 20%-personal-project-per-capita freeware Google pumps yearly into production compared to other tech innovators.
* A/. poster used that number as the bare cost of a decent engineer's yearly salary in the US.
DLink's 825 does it, though my ISP made it so I need the router's 6-to-4 tunnel anyway, till the ISP's PPPoE eventually serves DHCPv6 instead of DHCPv4. I'm not sure about the sumult dual-band on the cheaper model 625, but like that one, other products also do v6, but you'll have to check them individually.
Always check forums before making your final choice; implementations can be wonky: even in LAN-bridge mode, a new bottom-of-the-line white-shell G-band router refused to bridge DHCPv6 announcements to PC's on their other side of the LAN. Remember too that browsers need [ brackets ] around v6-style IP addresses, that a tunnel's anycast gateway is 192.88.99.1 and that your manual DNS queries will be plenty even today, --browsers refuse v6 on dual-stack sites entered by hostname on your address bar: eg: www.kame.net vs. 2001:200:dff:fff1:216:3eff:feb1:44d7. Oh, and don't dare hyperlink to IPv6 addresses like the above. Even/. slurps it as nonsense.
It wouldn't surprise me if they bring a 500MB cap to the data plans in 2012 and also began charging for tethering, much like how providers such as Orange have done in the UK...
Wow, that's very plausible. They could be hoping to get all the anti-AT&T folks onboard with the soon-to-be-dead iPhone4, into a 2 year contract. Then before that contract ends, they throw in the cap. Terms in the US can be changed randomly, and I'm no smartphone user, but/. has been an indication that VZ loves nickel&diming people for even *viewing* "basic" GPS data that the phone collects by law anyway (to enable emergency 911-tracking services)
A juicy thought from Bloomberg TV I haven't seen here yet: VZ iPhone 4is out in Feb 2010... the usual AT&T iPhone 5 comes out shortly after... will version 5 be an AT&T exclusive?
TFA referenced in the TFA says: "Browsing means looking at websites and checking email, but not watching videos, downloading files or playing games."
They should be reminded that all our "browsing" is harder to find in plain text format because of all the Flash feature-creep, let alone the ads. CNN news gives us all a hard time with all these ad-prepended videos, and Yahoo is starting to do that too.
Someday MS might give us a standard wrapper for both. Oh, who am I kidding? MS only cares about their own DirectX product as te be-all/end-all. But they might need it as bait for coders in your same dilemma, as XP and DirectX9 are still their own strongest rival for DX10 and upcomig DX11 adoption.
In other words, if corporate America finds a killer app for CUDA "soon," MS could start selling the idea that XP/DX9 upgrades to Windows 7 and 8 are their only upgrade path to gain built-in CUDA-like support.
They're fine for consumer devices (i.e. devices for consuming), but not for devices people use to create anything involving text.
Agreed. Touchscreens will "replace" keyboards the same way that Vista and newer replaced them with their speech-to-text: nowhere visible even 3 years after mainstream launch. Heck, iPhones are older than Vista and I still don't see touchscreens in my work or home monitors.
Here is another reason there's no general uptake in shipping-grade ultra-different alternatives. Two minutes in you can tell that without an optional standard keyboard, you would never get past the first 3 minutes of a perl script with symbols, sentence cases and impromptu voice commands to compensate when errors happen. Slashdot had another story today about SSH over cellphones, and one of the topics was missing keys like PgUP, CTRL and ESC, that are forgotten in smartphones' space conscious hardware/software implementations.
Touch screens look cool, but they are a museum / kiosk / smartphone item (spend 5 minutes entering input and you're out or done.) TFA's question will make sense the day at least 50% of screens are touch-ready. Hopefully, our living room TV's WON'T be catching this trend.
The first thing a sub-contracting IT company interviewed me with was an HR "test that all their employees were given." It had about 40 math / analogies and a 12-minute limit they forewarned me not to race against* (score higher if you do answer perfectly the few ones you know.)
Nothing IT related, but I feel ripped off because it's tasty personal data they now own and will sell in agregate or worse; I never even got to work with them.
* Very similar to this one except many questions go like "what is the second letter of the last word that starts with an S in this sentence? _____________" (weeding out secretaries for not following precise instructions in filing jobs, for example.)
Thanks. I just found 2GB netbooks do exist. What you own is as good as experimental until it is easier to find on shelves; reminds me of the topic of the Google Nexus. It was just as hard to locate out in the wild in users' hands.
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It'll also stop casual viewing. I wouldn't install a plug in just to look at a picture, even if some "friend" (person who I haven't seen in 10 years) told me it [...] gotta see it.
MS Silverlight plugin site:
"You raaaaang, sir?"
;-)
Though steganography itself is different from full encryption, I got a big kick out of your putting my own post inside the malachite pic, plus being honest and informative: now I know about outguess.
Kudos!
We would need to wait till HTML5 is here; its built-in magic might suffice to implement a viewer. But then how do they inject that code into facebook so that nobody has to grab the viewer on their own?
Their Auto-tagger scans faces and asks users for the names of every face it has already framed in your pictures, and FB also does resizing and thumbnailing that clearly know when picture data is *not* what they're parsing after the upload. Facebook also isn't going to let you upload something that's clearly a noisy and corrupted JPEG file.
They already changed their uploader so it compresses your images before they go out, and all I need is a slashdotter with an FB account to confirm that they can't even start to upload a binary disguised as a JPEG.
This is the same thing that happens with Operating Systems' need for versioning. What does the board plan, "reflexion" API's where each dev must ask the browser what it can do and assume the missing features in the ethereal standard are enough for the page to render 3 years from now? 10 years from now?
Just like an OS, the standard can drop features at any time; the point of numbers is to tell the dev from an easy test what stylesheets to junk and what error messages to give.
Careful what we wish for!
All those Yahoo users will just be injected into the Google and Bing bloodstreams. Haven't you noticed that when a website fails on modern browsers and people get tired of refreshing, they just move on to the search widget right next to the URL bar? What's the default search engine on those? How many people use search bar daily because they have no idea what the URL bar to its left does?
Does bypassing them without doing any educational growing up count? You won't feel the same if you think you're turning off your firewall because your kid is "grown" when someone else did all the work.
They can learn from other kids in their classes, just like they learn the rest about sex without our help and from links in their gaming forums. We've already seen 13-year-olds asking how they can bypass security at forums, and they usually good receive tips on proxies and default router passwords (which no slashdotter will fall for, but we're only a small portion of the real "victims" here.)
If you live in the USA, you know that every major kids program and related advertising out there lures them to shopping-related content and educational activities --the ads say "Please ask for your parents permission to go online and play with Dora [flash games with your favorite TV show chars]."
If you know Americans, who are king amongst the time-spent-vegging-near-the-TV world, you'll also know the sad reality that parents don't monitor their kids closely... they unwittingly teach them from ages 3 and up that the TV as a babysitter device since it keeps them from wrecking the house and all. Sadly, the computer is starting to capture that role for the older kids, and parents just say "I left you playing that Nickelodeon channel game and fell asleep"
A little known fact is that starting in 2006, MS gifted its Vista and later OSs with Parental controls enforceable for non-admin accounts. It blocks DVDs, games and even has time-of-day restrictions (uTorrent-like-scheduler GUI) and website white-lists / blacklists (the latter has logging avaiable to any Admin account also), the same as any modern TV's for off-the-air TV in the USA.
The problem is that few people know or care to use these controls. Fortunately, you guys may benefit now that you know. I don't have Seven, and it rubs me the wrong way that the demo video I linked lacks the "Windows Web filter" button... they may have moved it elsewhere or "decided" we don't need this kinda power anymore.
Here's what I do:
Start services.msc with admin rights and Disable the "Google updater service." The sooner you do it, the better, since it Chrome checks at every boot and updates ultra-silently --none of that Mozilla courtesy.
(how do I make a proper link here - without the whole url showing up?)
Psst: just use the standard html tag <a href="url">surrounding your comment words</a> in your comments.
I failed to mention here that because firefox == miriads of extensions that expect a status bar, developers just lost the natural place to show you a quick download countdown, unread e-mail status, current temperatures, adblock and noscript domain controls and maybe even translation toggle options. Guess which place is perfect for devs to want to migrate to now? Our shrinking URL bars! :)
You were correct until GUI standards changed. Everyone before IE7 has designed a shorter URL bar than the expected status bar's size of near-window-width. We're getting short-changed.
URL bars now give up valuable room for back, refresh, home, our obligatory search bar. It gets worse with site icons, add-to-favorites stars, RSS indicators, down arrows for history, "GO" buttons, Firefox's domain confirmation in green for HTTPS sites... and more importantly uselessly long links like: "http://tech.slashdot.org/story/11/01/15/0238253/Firefox-4-Beta-9-Out-Now-With-IndexedDB-and-Tabs-On-Titlebar" that are made NOT to fit on the URL bar without H-scrolling, let alone on 4:3 screens.
Rarely is a link you're following going to be short enough for this new "logical spot" that is underprepared to handle the job of the original statusbar. I won't complain that much... we got back some vertical space that we lost on widescreens.
Can anyone running the beta tell me if the "Personas" skins they mainstreamed in 3.6 are broken in 4.0 ? It would be sad to see them go, since I love monochrome themes for myself and colorful ones for the family. The latter allows me to tell from the other side of the room that they're using the correct browser when an issue is "called out" to me. I digress... any brokenness means that they went from 3.6 support to abandonment in a single release, where 3.7 is AKA 4.0. Chrome changes version numbers all the time, and they rarely update their general GUI.
On another topic, summaries sometimes make you "pause" slashdot to seek clarification, though not always not for the articles. I tried to link to personas, but mozilla seems to be slashdotted or something/i>
I wonder what would happen if every single Slashdot user, U.S. citizen or not, wrote a letter to President Obama that [...]
Not a good idea. We would be flagged and chased just like they did to Anonymous when defending Wikileaks
Apparently users love it when 30+ years of interface design (DOS-era menus, not pine or BASIC.exe's bottom-laying ones) is removed without giving mainstream users a single "did you know?" pop-up on how to use the new system or revert it. To Whom do we owe the pleasure of this arbitrary feature? Believe it or not, to MS Office 2007's orb menu. Forums show people think the menu disappearance is a bug and not a feature (File/print and Edit/copy and paste is used by millions of non-savvy users who never click on buttons and never right-click.) They're in for a surprise again.
Oh, add Opera to your list. All major browsers in the EU browser ballot are or will soon be menu-less out of the box, except for Safari.
In October 2010 google announced 23,331 fulltime employees. Rounding to 25k and keeping everything else fixed, salaries would need to lose an average $260 USD per employee to pay for the license.
Changing this to R&D resources instead, $6,500,000 USD / $100k* we get that they would be unable to hire ~60 engineers. Think of all the lost 20%-personal-project-per-capita freeware Google pumps yearly into production compared to other tech innovators.
* A /. poster used that number as the bare cost of a decent engineer's yearly salary in the US.
I believe what you are looking for goes by simultaneous dual band.
DLink's 825 does it, though my ISP made it so I need the router's 6-to-4 tunnel anyway, till the ISP's PPPoE eventually serves DHCPv6 instead of DHCPv4. I'm not sure about the sumult dual-band on the cheaper model 625, but like that one, other products also do v6, but you'll have to check them individually.
Always check forums before making your final choice; implementations can be wonky: even in LAN-bridge mode, a new bottom-of-the-line white-shell G-band router refused to bridge DHCPv6 announcements to PC's on their other side of the LAN. Remember too that browsers need [ brackets ] around v6-style IP addresses, that a tunnel's anycast gateway is 192.88.99.1 and that your manual DNS queries will be plenty even today, --browsers refuse v6 on dual-stack sites entered by hostname on your address bar: eg: www.kame.net vs. 2001:200:dff:fff1:216:3eff:feb1:44d7. Oh, and don't dare hyperlink to IPv6 addresses like the above. Even /. slurps it as nonsense.
I'm more worried about things look like when these go "bluescreen"
It wouldn't surprise me if they bring a 500MB cap to the data plans in 2012 and also began charging for tethering, much like how providers such as Orange have done in the UK...
Wow, that's very plausible. They could be hoping to get all the anti-AT&T folks onboard with the soon-to-be-dead iPhone4, into a 2 year contract. Then before that contract ends, they throw in the cap. Terms in the US can be changed randomly, and I'm no smartphone user, but /. has been an indication that VZ loves nickel&diming people for even *viewing* "basic" GPS data that the phone collects by law anyway (to enable emergency 911-tracking services)
A juicy thought from Bloomberg TV I haven't seen here yet: ... the usual AT&T iPhone 5 comes out shortly after... will version 5 be an AT&T exclusive?
VZ iPhone 4 is out in Feb 2010
And here is the proof :)
TFA referenced in the TFA says: "Browsing means looking at websites and checking email, but not watching videos, downloading files or playing games."
They should be reminded that all our "browsing" is harder to find in plain text format because of all the Flash feature-creep, let alone the ads. CNN news gives us all a hard time with all these ad-prepended videos, and Yahoo is starting to do that too.
Someday MS might give us a standard wrapper for both.
Oh, who am I kidding? MS only cares about their own DirectX product as te be-all/end-all. But they might need it as bait for coders in your same dilemma, as XP and DirectX9 are still their own strongest rival for DX10 and upcomig DX11 adoption.
In other words, if corporate America finds a killer app for CUDA "soon," MS could start selling the idea that XP/DX9 upgrades to Windows 7 and 8 are their only upgrade path to gain built-in CUDA-like support.
They're fine for consumer devices (i.e. devices for consuming), but not for devices people use to create anything involving text.
Agreed. Touchscreens will "replace" keyboards the same way that Vista and newer replaced them with their speech-to-text: nowhere visible even 3 years after mainstream launch. Heck, iPhones are older than Vista and I still don't see touchscreens in my work or home monitors.
Here is another reason there's no general uptake in shipping-grade ultra-different alternatives. Two minutes in you can tell that without an optional standard keyboard, you would never get past the first 3 minutes of a perl script with symbols, sentence cases and impromptu voice commands to compensate when errors happen. Slashdot had another story today about SSH over cellphones, and one of the topics was missing keys like PgUP, CTRL and ESC, that are forgotten in smartphones' space conscious hardware/software implementations.
Touch screens look cool, but they are a museum / kiosk / smartphone item (spend 5 minutes entering input and you're out or done.) TFA's question will make sense the day at least 50% of screens are touch-ready. Hopefully, our living room TV's WON'T be catching this trend.
Hmm,a citation would be nice.
The first thing a sub-contracting IT company interviewed me with was an HR "test that all their employees were given." It had about 40 math / analogies and a 12-minute limit they forewarned me not to race against* (score higher if you do answer perfectly the few ones you know.)
Nothing IT related, but I feel ripped off because it's tasty personal data they now own and will sell in agregate or worse; I never even got to work with them.
* Very similar to this one except many questions go like "what is the second letter of the last word that starts with an S in this sentence? _____________" (weeding out secretaries for not following precise instructions in filing jobs, for example.)
Thanks. I just found 2GB netbooks
do exist. What you own is as good as experimental until it is easier to find on shelves; reminds me of the topic of the Google Nexus. It was just as hard to locate out in the wild in users' hands.
Meanwhile, here is the projected price of your device in 2009 ($350) and here is how pricewise ($728) it is just it is piled together with the laptop category.