IMHO, for those that think along these lines, why not have the US government contract out the design and build of their own Smart Phone. That way, they can really tell everyone where to go. And with Android, they could probably do it fairly easily.
FYI, I was half expecting the guy to be a (D), but noticed he was an (R). Which is why I I would never vote for anyone in either party.
Trying to make things "fair" is impossible. The moment you "take" from someone, anyone, in order to level the playing field (when it is already level) is nothing short of tilting the field. The actions themselves are "unfair". I've even heard that it isn't "fair" that Curry (Golden State Warriors) can shoot 50%+ from beyond the 3point line, and something must be done, because it is ruining the game.Which is absurd on its face, and why it was entertained at all is very telling to how we've gone as a society.
It is not fair. Life is not fair. We are all born "different" in abilities, and that is not fair. Nature isn't fair.
The problem with Freedom is that it is often messy. Freedom of speech means people can say just about anything they want, including spewing hate and falsehoods.
Any proposal that would restrict Liberty on the basis that it is messy, is walking the line towards tyranny. All those "do it to protect the children" style arguments are exactly the same reasoning. The base assumption is that people cannot adequately protect themselves from the mess. Regardless of the merits, it is a bad idea, because there is no end to how much "mess" is going to be allowed, leaving no messes (Liberty) and a strict regimented government controlled life of meaningless order.
SOME of the messages were CLASSIFIED at the time they were written, regardless of the markings (or lack thereof). Which is enough. They have more than enough. The idea that MARKINGS are an important distinction is not correct, they are not.
You are conflating two different ideas "Marked Classified" and "Classified" which are similar, aren't the same.
found to contain information that was later classified.
The emails contained classified information, which was later MARKED classified. Information is classified (secret) or it isn't. The markings are irrelevant. Markings are for clarification and containment, nothing more, nothing less.
Her problem is that the burden is on her because of the NDA..
"I understand that it is my responsibility to consult with appropriate management authorities in the Department... in order to ensure that I know whether information or material within my knowledge or control that I have reason to believe might be SCI."
She violated that NDA, and laws by disclosing SCI material.Here is the pertinent clause from the NDA she signed.
"I have been advised that the unauthorized disclosure, unauthorized retention, or negligent handling of [Sensitive Compartmented Information] by me could cause irreparable injury to the United States or be used to advantage by a foreign nation."
Basically, it was her DUTY to make sure that the information was properly identified and marked with the appropriate security level, which if she had done, she would have realized that being on a PRIVATE server/system was a violation of the NDA! She violated the NDA, period.
Let me know where in the Constitution, it states that there has to be parties at all?
My supposition is that ALL primaries need to be open, and no parties are allowed. Why should tax payers support parties that we don't agree with? My party doesn't require taxpayer "Primary" elections;-)
I am not shill for the (R) party. They are worthless spineless and otherwise useless inbreds. the fact that Trump is winning is kind of proof of this, don't you think?
No, I am Libertarian, and despise the entire powerbroker class. Both the DNC and GOP need to die.
Your view of Binary choice between (D) and (R) is adorable, while also misguided.
There are OTHER choices out there, pretending they don't exist is part of our problem. The barely lessor of two evils isn't a real option.
AND I find it kind of morbidly amusing you think she is good on security, when she couldn't even run encryption on her server that was spewing classified information all around the world. You're not a RINO. You're worse.
2. No law that required her to use any email for that matter. That is irrelevant to the context of this case, which has to do with documents and security of the same.
Some information is classified upon creation. Being "Marked Classified" is nothing but a strawman, and anyone with half a brain understands that "Marked" doesn't mean shit. If she emailed someone a NEW document that used CLASSIFIED information (from memory, for example) it is still "Classified" regardless of someone marking it that way.
You're repeating what is now known to be completely irrelevant talkingpoint, as some of the revealed documents show that it exposed agents in the field, which is classified even if it was also known publicly. Do you remember Scooter Libby ? He was prosecuted for less.
There is a long list of people who have done less, that are in jail or otherwise prosecuted. If she avoids prosecution, it is an insult to all those people.
the Phrase "Marked Classified" is a red herring, and completely irrelevant. Not only that, there is evidence that the markings were REMOVED by her staff (and orders to do so shown), which is ALSO a felony. FURTHER the law doesn't indicate it has to be marked at all. But keep spewing the DNC talking points, as it shows you care more about (D) party than actual security of our people serving overseas (exposed)
And if she is ever charged with a Federal crime the chance of her being elected goes to some place around zero.
You have no idea about the stupidity of the American People, There are enough people who will vote for her, no matter what, simply because she has a (D) after her name, and even more because she has a V between her legs.
Here is a scenario that just might happen. She gets elected, gets sworn in, and pardons herself. And the newly appointed Supreme Court Justice, she appointed will support the notion that a President can pardon themselves, because there is no restriction against it in the Constitution. And the Senate will not be able to impeach her, and the (R) are too stupid / chicken / lame to do anything about it.
Of course, if you're a DNC shill, you think she has done nothing wrong, in spite of the ongoing revelations of secret, classified, and beyond classified documents found on an unsecured server. I am sure that if this were an (R) running for President, you'd be calling for his hanging, and not saying "nothing to see here, move along"
Which is why I hate party politics, because people like you only see the Party, and not the crimes.
The way around the stupid laws that do not protect anyone from anything, is to import crypto from outside the US that is better and more robust than the stupid crippled versions mandated by US Law.
That is where you'd be wrong. Petty tyrants are still tyrants. They wield their power just as much as the ones at the top. They have the full power of the Bureaucracy (Power and the wealth of the taxpayers) behind them, and you'd be a fool to take them on.
What this is, is nothing short of Bureaucratic tyranny.
When I speak of tyranny, of an all powerful government, it doesn't always mean having a tyrant like Hitler hell bent on evil at the top. It is often more insideous than that, unaccounted, unfettered bureaucracy that is beholden to nobody. Because no single person is responsible, there is nobody to prosecute for the decisions that lead the the tyranny.
And while this is going on, people are crying for more tyranny, in the name of "security"... the state MUST protect itself from its own citizens!
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Android is more or less open.
IMHO, for those that think along these lines, why not have the US government contract out the design and build of their own Smart Phone. That way, they can really tell everyone where to go. And with Android, they could probably do it fairly easily.
FYI, I was half expecting the guy to be a (D), but noticed he was an (R). Which is why I I would never vote for anyone in either party.
Trying to make things "fair" is impossible. The moment you "take" from someone, anyone, in order to level the playing field (when it is already level) is nothing short of tilting the field. The actions themselves are "unfair". I've even heard that it isn't "fair" that Curry (Golden State Warriors) can shoot 50%+ from beyond the 3point line, and something must be done, because it is ruining the game.Which is absurd on its face, and why it was entertained at all is very telling to how we've gone as a society.
It is not fair. Life is not fair. We are all born "different" in abilities, and that is not fair. Nature isn't fair.
I wonder if they'll give "equal access" to the Libertarian candidate. Yeah, exactly what I thought.
The problem with Freedom is that it is often messy. Freedom of speech means people can say just about anything they want, including spewing hate and falsehoods.
Any proposal that would restrict Liberty on the basis that it is messy, is walking the line towards tyranny. All those "do it to protect the children" style arguments are exactly the same reasoning. The base assumption is that people cannot adequately protect themselves from the mess. Regardless of the merits, it is a bad idea, because there is no end to how much "mess" is going to be allowed, leaving no messes (Liberty) and a strict regimented government controlled life of meaningless order.
SOME of the messages were CLASSIFIED at the time they were written, regardless of the markings (or lack thereof). Which is enough. They have more than enough. The idea that MARKINGS are an important distinction is not correct, they are not.
You are conflating two different ideas "Marked Classified" and "Classified" which are similar, aren't the same.
found to contain information that was later classified.
The emails contained classified information, which was later MARKED classified. Information is classified (secret) or it isn't. The markings are irrelevant. Markings are for clarification and containment, nothing more, nothing less.
Her problem is that the burden is on her because of the NDA ..
"I understand that it is my responsibility to consult with appropriate management authorities in the Department ... in order to ensure that I know whether information or material within my knowledge or control that I have reason to believe might be SCI."
She violated that NDA, and laws by disclosing SCI material.Here is the pertinent clause from the NDA she signed.
"I have been advised that the unauthorized disclosure, unauthorized retention, or negligent handling of [Sensitive Compartmented Information] by me could cause irreparable injury to the United States or be used to advantage by a foreign nation."
Basically, it was her DUTY to make sure that the information was properly identified and marked with the appropriate security level, which if she had done, she would have realized that being on a PRIVATE server/system was a violation of the NDA! She violated the NDA, period.
Let me know where in the Constitution, it states that there has to be parties at all?
My supposition is that ALL primaries need to be open, and no parties are allowed. Why should tax payers support parties that we don't agree with? My party doesn't require taxpayer "Primary" elections ;-)
If Hillary gets elected, everything will be a "Vast Right Wing Conspiracy" or "Sexism" !
Some is all that is required. They have more than enough.
I am not shill for the (R) party. They are worthless spineless and otherwise useless inbreds. the fact that Trump is winning is kind of proof of this, don't you think?
No, I am Libertarian, and despise the entire powerbroker class. Both the DNC and GOP need to die.
Your view of Binary choice between (D) and (R) is adorable, while also misguided.
There are OTHER choices out there, pretending they don't exist is part of our problem. The barely lessor of two evils isn't a real option.
AND I find it kind of morbidly amusing you think she is good on security, when she couldn't even run encryption on her server that was spewing classified information all around the world. You're not a RINO. You're worse.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
Not knowing isn't as good as you're making it out to be.
Just part of the "Most transparent administration in history"
2. No law that required her to use any email for that matter. That is irrelevant to the context of this case, which has to do with documents and security of the same.
Some information is classified upon creation. Being "Marked Classified" is nothing but a strawman, and anyone with half a brain understands that "Marked" doesn't mean shit. If she emailed someone a NEW document that used CLASSIFIED information (from memory, for example) it is still "Classified" regardless of someone marking it that way.
You're repeating what is now known to be completely irrelevant talkingpoint, as some of the revealed documents show that it exposed agents in the field, which is classified even if it was also known publicly. Do you remember Scooter Libby ? He was prosecuted for less.
There is a long list of people who have done less, that are in jail or otherwise prosecuted. If she avoids prosecution, it is an insult to all those people.
But she is a (D) so, that makes it okay!
the Phrase "Marked Classified" is a red herring, and completely irrelevant. Not only that, there is evidence that the markings were REMOVED by her staff (and orders to do so shown), which is ALSO a felony. FURTHER the law doesn't indicate it has to be marked at all. But keep spewing the DNC talking points, as it shows you care more about (D) party than actual security of our people serving overseas (exposed)
And if she is ever charged with a Federal crime the chance of her being elected goes to some place around zero.
You have no idea about the stupidity of the American People, There are enough people who will vote for her, no matter what, simply because she has a (D) after her name, and even more because she has a V between her legs.
Here is a scenario that just might happen. She gets elected, gets sworn in, and pardons herself. And the newly appointed Supreme Court Justice, she appointed will support the notion that a President can pardon themselves, because there is no restriction against it in the Constitution. And the Senate will not be able to impeach her, and the (R) are too stupid / chicken / lame to do anything about it.
Of course, if you're a DNC shill, you think she has done nothing wrong, in spite of the ongoing revelations of secret, classified, and beyond classified documents found on an unsecured server. I am sure that if this were an (R) running for President, you'd be calling for his hanging, and not saying "nothing to see here, move along"
Which is why I hate party politics, because people like you only see the Party, and not the crimes.
“And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music.” - Friedrich Nietzsche
I'm just telling you our experience. Support from VMWare hasn't been able to resolve our issue (and they have tried).
WalMart, Niantic, Uber, Goldman Saks ...
The way around the stupid laws that do not protect anyone from anything, is to import crypto from outside the US that is better and more robust than the stupid crippled versions mandated by US Law.
That is where you'd be wrong. Petty tyrants are still tyrants. They wield their power just as much as the ones at the top. They have the full power of the Bureaucracy (Power and the wealth of the taxpayers) behind them, and you'd be a fool to take them on.
What this is, is nothing short of Bureaucratic tyranny.
When I speak of tyranny, of an all powerful government, it doesn't always mean having a tyrant like Hitler hell bent on evil at the top. It is often more insideous than that, unaccounted, unfettered bureaucracy that is beholden to nobody. Because no single person is responsible, there is nobody to prosecute for the decisions that lead the the tyranny.
And while this is going on, people are crying for more tyranny, in the name of "security" ... the state MUST protect itself from its own citizens!
Silly commoner. Laws are for you, not the rich and powerful.