Same thing can be said of Government. We have laws the government violates all the time. It is worse, because government is supposed to enforce the laws.
If my sources are right, the (G)s are pretty much (D)s, the same way (L)s are really (R)s (as told to me by a D)
The (G) are for big government just like the (D) and (R)s are, they just differ on the form of the big government. The only people I know that are against big government because of exactly THESE REASONS, are the (L)s. If you want to control others simply because you don't like their choices, you are NOT for liberty. Liberty is having the ability to choose, even if the choice is wrong. If you can't choose the wrong choice, you don't have a choice at all, because all it takes is for enough people to say "it is wrong for you do choose _____" and the choice is taken away.
Think 32 oz soda's in NYC. It always starts small and innocuous.
This is the old do something shocking... then when caught... "I'm SHOCKED!!!, I tell you, SHOCKED that anyone would do such a thing" excuse. Making it look like you're innocent by agreeing that what you did was wrong and that you are shocked as everyone else.
Bush isn't president any more. He is gone and retired. Saying Bush is bad is like saying "Well Hitler was bad". It has no bearing on what is happening now. We are watching Obama and his words are not matching his deeds. Focus on the current problem, and quit pointing fingers to someone who isn't in power any longer.
I know that Bush was the (D)'s version of the Boogieman (along with Palin and the Tea Party), but he's gone. We have something worse now.
Here's the thing, you CANNOT excuse bad behavior by pointing to bad behavior. Too many (D) party people can't see the fact that BHO is GWB on steroids. And excusing it because he "isn't Bush" is silly.
Reading the first link, it is clear that the cops were crooked, but planting (pun not intended) 600 pot plants on the isn't one of the charges. It is clear that they (the cops) perjured themselves, but planting evidence didn't seem like that was one of the charges. Illegal Search, lack of probable cause etc....
Not remotely like planting evidence. Done reading your examples.
Randomly stopping someone and planting evidence doesn't happen. Targeting people and planting evidence probably does happen. I was referring to the former, not the latter. Making the leap shows lack of logic.
My point is, it is much BETTER get an understanding of the potential technology and its outcomes BEFORE we get there. than take a short sighted look now and decide something we cannot easily undo later.
Workplace PCs are being replaced by other devices dominated by Linux (Android/Chrome) and BSD variants (iOS).
Microsoft's problem is that they are a "Windows" company more than anything else. Until this changes, they will likely to continue their slide. Will there be a place for Windows in the Business world moving forward? Of course. Will it dominate? Not likely.
I mean, that after a few generations of being on the plantation, when one is free to leave, but voting to remain on said plantation is not in one's self interest. There are, however, too few voices that tell the slaves they can leave, and those that do are called Racist. Go figure that one out.
That, and our welfare policies have destroyed families. For Generations. This isn't good for anyone. Political Correctness ignores reality on the basis of rose tinted glasses.
The rich are neither "good" or "bad". They have self interest and act accordingly, just like everyone else. Not accounting for self interest in taxation policy leads to one thing, regressive taxes. The only "good" option is to limit taxes to minimum and governance the same. Anything less is decidedly regressive, meaning it only affects those that cannot avoid it.
They aren't sequencing the entire genome... yet. That only requires advancement in technology. Given enough advancement in technology, a DNA sequencer might be in every Patrol Vehicle in a few years, or at least, every police substation/precinct. Given enough sequencing capability, and many, if not most genomes having been sequenced, it does present a situation like GATTACA.
Blacks voting for the DNC en masse has really helped them so much. Care to explain how keeping black people poor (welfare) and dependent has helped them? Heaven forbid one makes it successful and conservative, only to be called Uncle Tom to shame them back onto the DNC reservation.
It wasn't a strawman anymore than the GP poster "You want your fellow countrymen to vote for the liberty to starve?" comment was.
The clear implication is that without Government people would starve, and with government nobody starves. Neither of which is entirely accurate. It is this fear tactic that doesn't deal in facts which is designed to illicit emotional responses to get people to vote a certain way. It is Liberalism 101.
You can go on a hunger strike anytime you want, that is really what "liberty to starve" actually means.
" Providing for the poor is a function of government."
Um... no it is not. Providing Defense, and PROMOTING welfare (good well being) is the goal of government. When Government provides livelihood to people it harms them often irreparably. While you may THINK you're helping you're not. Things of value are not easy to attain. If they were easy to attain, it wouldn't be valuable.
So, why would the rich do anything other than protect their wealth against people who are trying to confiscate it? You act surprise that when people go after wealth the wealth hides. I know it makes you feel good to say "fucking unfair", but what you don't realize is that "fair" is subjective term, and has nothing to do with reality or rose tinted viewpoints. What matters is what actually happens, not what you "intended" the result to be.
A baseball player intends to hit a homerun every at bat. A basketball player intends to hit the shot every time he shoots. What Fucking matters isn't what you want, it matters what happens.
Last thing, about "fairness", is it fair that you think you're entitled to someone elses money via Tax Policy? Taxes should stop being concerned with "fair" and start being concerned with results. Bottom 50 pay no taxes, that isn't good, regardless if it is fair or not.
The problem is, and the GP hinted at it, taxes are regressive.The rich can simply move to avoid taxes, while the poor are left holding the bag. Rich can avoid taxes, the poor cannot. Additionally, when the wealthy move or move their assets to avoid taxes (confiscatory) it hurts the poor more than it does the wealthy, taking jobs with them, but leaving those that fill the jobs behind.
They once tried a tax on "Luxury" items, like boats (yachts) and other things, the rich simply stopped buying them. It didn't hurt them, it hurt those that built, sold, maintained and staffed them. It was repealed fairly quickly. Problem is, this admittedly anecdotal evidence, is never remembered by those who keep trying to soak the rich.
Really, taxing the RICH doesn't help anyone. It just makes you feel better.
Fake coins as investment is for stupid people. Real alternative Fiat Virtual Coinage must have real trade value. Unless a new crypto/virtual coinage has merchant/trading (currency velocity) built it, I'm not interested.
Indeed. This is why saying "We're like Bitcoin, only newer" is pyramid type scheme for those that create it. Without exchange of currency there is no real value. A true competitor to Bit-coin will need to build out the exchange. If you had to "spend" your bitcoin before you could mine the next one (or have some ratio), it would create the velocity of currency needed to make the coin valuable. It would also provide incentives to accept the currency, knowing that a certain amount would floating in the marketplace. Keep in mind, this is just a rough outline, not an actual well thought out design.
The only one of real value, is the one with the greatest adoption.The one with the greatest adoption, will be the one where there is stability in relative value. The one with the greatest relative value is the one that has greatest adoption.
Bit Coin, being the first and biggest has the greatest chance of success. All the "early" money is gone. The Cheap coins (see adoption) is gone. Each new virtual/crypto coin will have increasingly lower chance at adoption, and will quickly fail. Once all others have failed, BC will be left and be the default coinage. Add in deflationary pressures, and holding Bitcoins will pay their own reward, without the need for "interest". This will increase deflationary pressure, and increase the value of BC. At some point, equilibrium will occur, and the value will increase based solely upon merit of the Fiat currency.
There may be up to three or four other currencies that attain similar stature as BC already has, but they will have to have their own merits, beyond just pyramid type hype. I'm pretty sure I could outline an example of a new competitor to BC fairly quickly that might have a chance at success (no guarantee). Saying "we're like bitcoin" isn't going to be sufficient.
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Same thing can be said of Government. We have laws the government violates all the time. It is worse, because government is supposed to enforce the laws.
Who taps every Verizon Wireless phone.
Who targets the enemies of the administration via IRS
Who use tax payer money to fund junkets to Anaheim (Disneyland) (IRS)
Who claim they need to review rules, regulations and procedures (they violated) in the tapping of Reporter's phones.
The government and corporations are the same. They are people, without conscience.
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"I will make it legal"
If my sources are right, the (G)s are pretty much (D)s, the same way (L)s are really (R)s (as told to me by a D)
The (G) are for big government just like the (D) and (R)s are, they just differ on the form of the big government. The only people I know that are against big government because of exactly THESE REASONS, are the (L)s. If you want to control others simply because you don't like their choices, you are NOT for liberty. Liberty is having the ability to choose, even if the choice is wrong. If you can't choose the wrong choice, you don't have a choice at all, because all it takes is for enough people to say "it is wrong for you do choose _____" and the choice is taken away.
Think 32 oz soda's in NYC. It always starts small and innocuous.
This is the old do something shocking ... then when caught ... "I'm SHOCKED!!!, I tell you, SHOCKED that anyone would do such a thing" excuse. Making it look like you're innocent by agreeing that what you did was wrong and that you are shocked as everyone else.
You think Verizon is the only Telco that has been drafted into this by the NSA?
Bush isn't president any more. He is gone and retired. Saying Bush is bad is like saying "Well Hitler was bad". It has no bearing on what is happening now. We are watching Obama and his words are not matching his deeds. Focus on the current problem, and quit pointing fingers to someone who isn't in power any longer.
I know that Bush was the (D)'s version of the Boogieman (along with Palin and the Tea Party), but he's gone. We have something worse now.
Here's the thing, you CANNOT excuse bad behavior by pointing to bad behavior. Too many (D) party people can't see the fact that BHO is GWB on steroids. And excusing it because he "isn't Bush" is silly.
Yeah, because that is exactly what I said. Talk about DERP.
Reading the first link, it is clear that the cops were crooked, but planting (pun not intended) 600 pot plants on the isn't one of the charges. It is clear that they (the cops) perjured themselves, but planting evidence didn't seem like that was one of the charges. Illegal Search, lack of probable cause etc ....
Not remotely like planting evidence. Done reading your examples.
Randomly stopping someone and planting evidence doesn't happen. Targeting people and planting evidence probably does happen. I was referring to the former, not the latter. Making the leap shows lack of logic.
Can you cite a single instance of this happening, even remotely like this? If not, you're completely delusional about how often it occurs.
You think cops carry random amounts of drugs at all times, and unlicensed untraceable guns too? You might want to seek professional help.
My point is, it is much BETTER get an understanding of the potential technology and its outcomes BEFORE we get there. than take a short sighted look now and decide something we cannot easily undo later.
Workplace PCs are being replaced by other devices dominated by Linux (Android/Chrome) and BSD variants (iOS).
Microsoft's problem is that they are a "Windows" company more than anything else. Until this changes, they will likely to continue their slide. Will there be a place for Windows in the Business world moving forward? Of course. Will it dominate? Not likely.
I mean, that after a few generations of being on the plantation, when one is free to leave, but voting to remain on said plantation is not in one's self interest. There are, however, too few voices that tell the slaves they can leave, and those that do are called Racist. Go figure that one out.
That, and our welfare policies have destroyed families. For Generations. This isn't good for anyone. Political Correctness ignores reality on the basis of rose tinted glasses.
The rich are neither "good" or "bad". They have self interest and act accordingly, just like everyone else. Not accounting for self interest in taxation policy leads to one thing, regressive taxes. The only "good" option is to limit taxes to minimum and governance the same. Anything less is decidedly regressive, meaning it only affects those that cannot avoid it.
They aren't sequencing the entire genome... yet. That only requires advancement in technology. Given enough advancement in technology, a DNA sequencer might be in every Patrol Vehicle in a few years, or at least, every police substation/precinct. Given enough sequencing capability, and many, if not most genomes having been sequenced, it does present a situation like GATTACA.
Blacks voting for the DNC en masse has really helped them so much. Care to explain how keeping black people poor (welfare) and dependent has helped them? Heaven forbid one makes it successful and conservative, only to be called Uncle Tom to shame them back onto the DNC reservation.
It wasn't a strawman anymore than the GP poster "You want your fellow countrymen to vote for the liberty to starve?" comment was.
The clear implication is that without Government people would starve, and with government nobody starves. Neither of which is entirely accurate. It is this fear tactic that doesn't deal in facts which is designed to illicit emotional responses to get people to vote a certain way. It is Liberalism 101.
You can go on a hunger strike anytime you want, that is really what "liberty to starve" actually means.
" Providing for the poor is a function of government."
Um ... no it is not. Providing Defense, and PROMOTING welfare (good well being) is the goal of government. When Government provides livelihood to people it harms them often irreparably. While you may THINK you're helping you're not. Things of value are not easy to attain. If they were easy to attain, it wouldn't be valuable.
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So, why would the rich do anything other than protect their wealth against people who are trying to confiscate it? You act surprise that when people go after wealth the wealth hides. I know it makes you feel good to say "fucking unfair", but what you don't realize is that "fair" is subjective term, and has nothing to do with reality or rose tinted viewpoints. What matters is what actually happens, not what you "intended" the result to be.
A baseball player intends to hit a homerun every at bat. A basketball player intends to hit the shot every time he shoots. What Fucking matters isn't what you want, it matters what happens.
Last thing, about "fairness", is it fair that you think you're entitled to someone elses money via Tax Policy? Taxes should stop being concerned with "fair" and start being concerned with results. Bottom 50 pay no taxes, that isn't good, regardless if it is fair or not.
The problem is, and the GP hinted at it, taxes are regressive.The rich can simply move to avoid taxes, while the poor are left holding the bag. Rich can avoid taxes, the poor cannot. Additionally, when the wealthy move or move their assets to avoid taxes (confiscatory) it hurts the poor more than it does the wealthy, taking jobs with them, but leaving those that fill the jobs behind.
They once tried a tax on "Luxury" items, like boats (yachts) and other things, the rich simply stopped buying them. It didn't hurt them, it hurt those that built, sold, maintained and staffed them. It was repealed fairly quickly. Problem is, this admittedly anecdotal evidence, is never remembered by those who keep trying to soak the rich.
Really, taxing the RICH doesn't help anyone. It just makes you feel better.
Fake coins as investment is for stupid people. Real alternative Fiat Virtual Coinage must have real trade value. Unless a new crypto/virtual coinage has merchant/trading (currency velocity) built it, I'm not interested.
Gold, unlike oil, is relatively stable long lasting and hard to "destroy" (made worthless). Oil, is too easily destroyed. A match works really well.
Indeed. This is why saying "We're like Bitcoin, only newer" is pyramid type scheme for those that create it. Without exchange of currency there is no real value. A true competitor to Bit-coin will need to build out the exchange. If you had to "spend" your bitcoin before you could mine the next one (or have some ratio), it would create the velocity of currency needed to make the coin valuable. It would also provide incentives to accept the currency, knowing that a certain amount would floating in the marketplace. Keep in mind, this is just a rough outline, not an actual well thought out design.
The only one of real value, is the one with the greatest adoption.The one with the greatest adoption, will be the one where there is stability in relative value. The one with the greatest relative value is the one that has greatest adoption.
Bit Coin, being the first and biggest has the greatest chance of success. All the "early" money is gone. The Cheap coins (see adoption) is gone. Each new virtual/crypto coin will have increasingly lower chance at adoption, and will quickly fail. Once all others have failed, BC will be left and be the default coinage. Add in deflationary pressures, and holding Bitcoins will pay their own reward, without the need for "interest". This will increase deflationary pressure, and increase the value of BC. At some point, equilibrium will occur, and the value will increase based solely upon merit of the Fiat currency.
There may be up to three or four other currencies that attain similar stature as BC already has, but they will have to have their own merits, beyond just pyramid type hype. I'm pretty sure I could outline an example of a new competitor to BC fairly quickly that might have a chance at success (no guarantee). Saying "we're like bitcoin" isn't going to be sufficient.
Schools can say it was for "Reproductive Health" reasons.
No, there is no concern about over reaching governance!