Well that's stupid. Let's say I use a GPL'd weblog internal to my company. I don't want the field viewing the source. In the context of my business, it has no value to them and could cause other issues. I'm going to strip it out by god.
Your example is exactly where I was trying to go in my own post.
If I build a business around hosted virus scanning and the backend runs postfix,clam-av and mysql (which I've written all the gluecode myself), why the hell should I be forced to give up that glue code? I'm not selling the software, I'm selling a service, which is what they've been telling us should be the business model all along.
Someone may argue that, since I'm selling a service, I should have no problem with giving up the code but I say to those people "Why? I took and glued together three disparate products to build my solution. I'm not selling the software package to anyone, I'm keeping it internal. My development of the glue is my edge."
I have a feeling this will do more harm than good to F/OSS usage out there.
I can't really codify my feelings into words since my examples are all licensed under something OTHER than the GPL (apache,php) but I think everyone sees where this would stiffle GPL-based software growth.
It's like saying that anyone who uses foo shopping cart (licensed under the GPL) to sell t-shirts online must now release any code changes they make to foo shopping cart just because the business uses it to sell t-shirts.
This has been the biggest FUD from Microsoft for the longest time. You shouldn't write an application to run on Linux because you'll be forced to give your code away! With this type of change, that might become fact rather than fud.
In all fairness, based on the article that was probably not the case. He said that he had one of the servers from IBM that SAP had certified with it's software. The problem was either, faulty hardware in general or as they seem to think an update from Redhat that was unsupported/untested by SAP. I can't imagine that they didn't run some hardware tests though since IBM was so involved as they made it sound.
I'm curious to know what version of RHAS they were running. If it was 2.1, then I could probably tell you the problem they had right now based on my own experiences. RH2.1 used a kernel release that was right before the VMM changes in 2.4. Thus they've been dealing with the problems ever since. Anyone who is running RH2.1 on a high volume system (i.e. DB2 or Oracle) has probably faced the same bug. At one point, before redhat backported a few fixes, at seriously high volumes kswapd would actually BLOCK all cpus and processes on the system until it finished. Can you imagine watching your load average spike to over 300 on a server and then drop back down to like 3 just because of kswapd? It wasn't a big deal until you had a high volume database running on the system that simply allocated new connections because all of its processes were being blocked thus taking up more memory this forcing kswapd to run more often thus starting the whole fucking cycle all over again!
If you can't tell, this is how I spent my October-December last year dealing with a retail financial system that would crash every fucking day. Finally through sheer LUCK we caught the problem as it was happening and working with IBM and Redhat, we found out that it was a known issue and that a kernel upgrade would sort of fix the problem. It did but we STILL have problems with kswapd and krefilld chewing CPU. We have an idle system at night from 10PM to 1:30AM and there are still spikes in our loadaverage of 1 or 2 all night long.
SAP "Supported configuration" is such and such version of Redhat Linux at a very specific patch level. I.E. This specific sub-release of glibc and the kernel that Redhat has published. If you let up2date or rhn automatically update the server, we won't support you because we've only tested at this certain level.
Now why that's ANY different than Windows updating itself is beyond me BUT I have a feeling that since he mentioned installing a Windows SUS, that SAP will support automatic Windows updates, as long as you control the update server. FYI, you can also do that with a Redhat Satellite Server but it costs money whereas Windows SUS does not (other than the cost of another server license).
One of the problems that we've seen with RHN updates is that older versions of packages are not available if a new one comes out. This has caused us problems in the past with our TSM server.
Case in point: IBM in thier infinite wisdom decided that the Tape Library driver would not only check for the specific version of the kernel RPM but also check for the specific subrelease! I.E. kernel-smp-2.4.9-48.i386.rpm was supported but kernel-smp-2.4.9-65.i386.rpm was NOT. This drove us batshit because we went to install a new TSM server and we had two kernel choices, keep the one on the install media which had known bugs or upgrade via RHN to the newest kernel that had the performance bug squashed. Meanwhile the driver was only available for a release somewhere in between those two and RHN wasn't making it available for download anymore. The RPM installer for the driver (which was only available in RPM) refused to install if you didn't have the specific subrelease! The only way around it was a little rpm2tgz magic and remain "unsupported" until IBM saw fit to release a version of the driver for that kernel.
What ended up happening was that a NEWER kernel was released shortly after that. IBM built to THAT kernel instead of the one we had so we were forced to do a kernel upgrade just to install the driver.
Now having said all that, I can understand why this guy might have had to deal with that if SAP were a hardware vendor but they aren't. As MANY people have mentioned before in this thread, the problem really lies with SAP and the fact that the product will only be "supported" at very specific levels of certain Redhat packages.
The only real choice is to make sure you download each and every package that get mentioned in the errata from RHN when it's announced and then wait for SAP to announce which combination is newly supported and upgrade at that time. If you don't then you may be SOL because a package could be superceded in RHN and you won't even be able to get that package again.
And when IBM or HP or EMC says they won't support the $50k dollar SAN that your production database is attached to because you built a custom kernel, don't come whining here.
Face it, the enterprise market is built around Redhat and Suse. That's it and the hardware and software vendors build to the stock install BECAUSE Linux is SO configurable. Redhat goes to great pains to not change a single interface in each patch set because there is software and drivers out there from vendors that is built to that specific platform.
Anyone who says to recompile the kernel has obviously never worked in a real enterprise environment beyond HPC or Research.
Linux in the enterprise is treated like AIX or Solaris or HPUX or Windows in the enterprise. Here's a hint, Redhat and Novell won't support your custom compiled kernel either. The first thing they'll tell you is to try it with a stock kernel. You might be an idiot and forgot to compile in something like support for a kernel arp daemon that FooBar vendor product requires but you wouldn't normally compile in.
Having said all that, there are places where we run unsupported distros on production machines but we only run it on a platform that we have full source access to (i.e. apache,php,postgres,postfix) but not when it's a binary only vendor product (DB2, Websphere, Informatica). When your business depends on a system being up and you have to call the vendor for support because of downtime, you'll run the explicitly supported configuration or you'll loose your job (or switch vendors if that's an option).
Case in point: We run alot of IBM product. When we first started our Linux migration, we chose Websphere as our app server because we wanted the enterprise support in case something went wrong. Now that we're two years running Websphere, we're looking at moving to Tomcat/Jonas or Tomcat/JBoss. Our developers have always developed on Tomcat so there's no question of our internal applications not working. The first tomcat server we'll use will be running a community supported distro. Why? Well the hardware our app servers run on is a typical IBM 1U server. There's no special hardware requirement there (SAN access or specialized hardware) and we won't have to call IBM for support if we have a tomcat problem because, while I'm sure they would be glad to sell us a specialized support contract, we won't need it. That move alone will save us 28 CPU licenses of Websphere.
Will we loose some functionality? Sure. Websphere's Deployment manager doesn't have a comparable open-source pairing but we can make up for that with some internal scripts. We don't use EJBs so other than the NDM and wsadmin.sh, we're not really using Websphere to its full potential anyway.
Did anyone notice this in an interview from earlier this year?
--quote-- Barry Caudill: Civilization 4 will be the most moddable version of Civilization ever. Players can edit basic stats and attributes in XML files. On a higher level, much of the game will be exposed to Python so modders will be able to edit events and have more control over how the game works. On an even higher level, we are planning to provide an AI SDK to allow experienced programmers to dig very deep into customization. --endquote--
Scripting via python eh? Might be the impetus I've been looking for to pick it up.
Actually it depends on the need. Maybe not in the router market all the time but in other markets, yes. It's also all about cost.
I've recently turned into a HUGE Juniper fanboy recently. I was already an HP Procurve fanboy after some Cisco catalyst issues. That and price per port/performance trounces Cisco.
In our situation, we had a vpn provider running a single Cisco 3030 concentrator.A maxed out 3030 costs around 25 or 30k and can support 500 nailed down tunnels with 50MB/s of encrypted throughput.
Meanwhile two Netscreen 208s with core plus same day support cost us about 30k total.
Stats on the Netscreen? 1000 nailed down tunnels and 200MB/s of 3DES encrypted throughput.
These can also operate in an active/active setup and double the throughput (but not the tunnels).
Now the question really begs "Should Cisco have bought Netscreen instead of Altiga? In my mind yes. Netscreen's use of ASICs is what really gives them the power.
Since I've not had the experience of dealing with the Juniper routers, I don't have an equivilent model comparison. I do know though that Juniper uses the "pc-based" architecture just like Cisco in the router line. To give Cisco credit, I am pretty impressed with the horsepower boost in the 2800 line over the 2600.
I'm just waiting for Juniper to buy Foundry and be the beast that Cisco needs. That will fill out the product line QUITE nicely.
probably the same way anybody who's dealt with jabber did.
Your JID is like an email. By default it will try to connect to the hostname part of your JID. In some cases, such as our corporate IM, we operate with an LDAP backend that indexes off email address. Our domain xxxxxxxxx.xxx points to another host than the Jabber server so what we do is advance configure IM clients to use a specific host.
Since people were saying that this is tied into gmail and that your gmail account was your login, you would guess that your JID is username@gmail.co m but it's doubtful that gmail.com would be listening for Jabber traffic right now. talk.google.com had been mentioned previously as the server where the service was running so you would gather that is the connect server.
Simple really. Not that I figured it out just because I've had all IM traffic except ours blocked on the firewall for the longest time. I'm only slightly tempted to allow gmail jabber traffic through but because of how jabber is setup, I can just define an s2s connection in our server config.
because it was the best cost with the stuff I wanted at the time. I'd buy from them again but I'm going to investigate other cases for the system. This one runs hot and loud. While it's under my desk off to the side, it still drives me nuts sometimes.
This is the case I bought my wife when I built her computer at Christmas. She has the black model and I have to say it's the single most pleasant case I've EVER worked in. That goes for some of the IBM rack mounts too. It is VERY spacious and the hard drive mounts are the coolest this side of the planet.
I actually have to crack it open again soon and put in the floppy/flash card reader and I'm actually looking forward to getting in there.
My case, however, is not as pleasant since it's basically a tower to rack convertable. It weighs a ton and there is VERY shitty airflow. Then again mine is a dual opteron and her's is just an athlon socket 939;)
If you've not drooled over the stuff on the Lian-Li website, I suggest you go. It's a hella cool set of gear.
Have you seen the crap that word exports as HTML? It's impossible to navigate. You really need a tool that understands the special tags that MS uses in the "HTML" it creates.
They've actually done a small bit of this in the following sense. They've ported those technologies across all the platforms.
I remember when we bought our x445s a few years back. They told us we could run a stripped down version of vmware and create LPARs on top of that if we wanted.
Of course now we've moved to p5 land so we're doing the LPARs there but same concept.
And you're proving what he said earlier about open standards != open source.
Microsoft Word format is NOT an open standard but oddly enough several Open Source projects support it.
How about this example? XML is an open standard but I don't see an opensource version of XMLSpy out there. Same for HTML. It's an open standard but Internet Explorer is not open source.
While we're still waiting to go see the movie, I think I would prefer the American version to the French one.
Number 1) Morgan Freeman doing the voice overs. Number 2) The voice overs in the French version are actually characterized voices for each penguin (i.e. a wife, a husband and a baby). That doesn't scream documentary to me. It screams cartoon.
I did like the previous documentary he did though (Winged Migration) so I'm sure I'll like this one as well.
We have the Life of Birds DVD set and my wife has watched it SEVERAL times over and over.
My single favorite part is the Mimic in Australia that makes , not only "normal" bird sounds" but imitates a camera shutter clicking, an automatic camera rewinding and, sadly enough, the sound of chainsaws revving up to cut down trees.
I was lucky enough to have a roomate who was pretty good friends with the band and that got me hooked on em. I wonder if I still have some old board bootlegs lying around the house.
Damnit I happened to *LIKE* Automan. I always thought I imagined the whole series because no one else had ever heard of it.
I will agree that while I have some memories of BSG, the show wasn't THAT big of a deal. Other than the fact that it was sci-fi different that Star Trek.
That's one of the many reasons I love to visit the inlaws in Michigan. There's a Tim Horton's on the way to Flint leaving Saginaw. Safest place on earth at 3AM cause the parking lot is full of cops.
Speaking of IBM partners, I don't know how they keep the ones they have much less get any new ones.
Have you purchased a pSeries recently? All the shit you have to jump through and then you're locked into the original partner you bought the unit from unless you go through some religious machinations to get IBM to switch the entire unit to the new partner or IBM themselves.
All they tell me is that to sell pSeries you have to provide some sort of value add. How about selling me the I/O drawer I want at a good price? That's a fucking value add to me.
I don't think the majority of the Western world does either. I honestly think that this Iraq thing is just the result of a man who REALLY believes that this is the solution to the Middle East.
I personally think we should ALL get the hell out of the middle east and let them blow themselves up if that's what they want to do.
There are asshole dictators all over the world and Iraq was the first we went after? The ONLY reason that was possible is because of 9/11. People were afraid of "them Muslims".
We have no business in building nations. It's failed us in the past and it will continue to fail us.
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Are we supposed to boycott codease now because they spam every single fucking article posted?
Well that's stupid. Let's say I use a GPL'd weblog internal to my company. I don't want the field viewing the source. In the context of my business, it has no value to them and could cause other issues. I'm going to strip it out by god.
Your example is exactly where I was trying to go in my own post.
If I build a business around hosted virus scanning and the backend runs postfix,clam-av and mysql (which I've written all the gluecode myself), why the hell should I be forced to give up that glue code? I'm not selling the software, I'm selling a service, which is what they've been telling us should be the business model all along.
Someone may argue that, since I'm selling a service, I should have no problem with giving up the code but I say to those people "Why? I took and glued together three disparate products to build my solution. I'm not selling the software package to anyone, I'm keeping it internal. My development of the glue is my edge."
I have a feeling this will do more harm than good to F/OSS usage out there.
I can't really codify my feelings into words since my examples are all licensed under something OTHER than the GPL (apache,php) but I think everyone sees where this would stiffle GPL-based software growth.
It's like saying that anyone who uses foo shopping cart (licensed under the GPL) to sell t-shirts online must now release any code changes they make to foo shopping cart just because the business uses it to sell t-shirts.
This has been the biggest FUD from Microsoft for the longest time. You shouldn't write an application to run on Linux because you'll be forced to give your code away! With this type of change, that might become fact rather than fud.
The guy who wrote the article for foxnews, James Pendergrast, works for:
Americans for Technology Leadership
Read all about the pro-Microsoft jobs they do:
here
In all fairness, based on the article that was probably not the case. He said that he had one of the servers from IBM that SAP had certified with it's software. The problem was either, faulty hardware in general or as they seem to think an update from Redhat that was unsupported/untested by SAP. I can't imagine that they didn't run some hardware tests though since IBM was so involved as they made it sound.
I'm curious to know what version of RHAS they were running. If it was 2.1, then I could probably tell you the problem they had right now based on my own experiences. RH2.1 used a kernel release that was right before the VMM changes in 2.4. Thus they've been dealing with the problems ever since. Anyone who is running RH2.1 on a high volume system (i.e. DB2 or Oracle) has probably faced the same bug. At one point, before redhat backported a few fixes, at seriously high volumes kswapd would actually BLOCK all cpus and processes on the system until it finished. Can you imagine watching your load average spike to over 300 on a server and then drop back down to like 3 just because of kswapd? It wasn't a big deal until you had a high volume database running on the system that simply allocated new connections because all of its processes were being blocked thus taking up more memory this forcing kswapd to run more often thus starting the whole fucking cycle all over again!
If you can't tell, this is how I spent my October-December last year dealing with a retail financial system that would crash every fucking day. Finally through sheer LUCK we caught the problem as it was happening and working with IBM and Redhat, we found out that it was a known issue and that a kernel upgrade would sort of fix the problem. It did but we STILL have problems with kswapd and krefilld chewing CPU. We have an idle system at night from 10PM to 1:30AM and there are still spikes in our loadaverage of 1 or 2 all night long.
All because we're running RH2.1 .
What he's saying isn't so far fetched:
SAP "Supported configuration" is such and such version of Redhat Linux at a very specific patch level. I.E. This specific sub-release of glibc and the kernel that Redhat has published. If you let up2date or rhn automatically update the server, we won't support you because we've only tested at this certain level.
Now why that's ANY different than Windows updating itself is beyond me BUT I have a feeling that since he mentioned installing a Windows SUS, that SAP will support automatic Windows updates, as long as you control the update server. FYI, you can also do that with a Redhat Satellite Server but it costs money whereas Windows SUS does not (other than the cost of another server license).
One of the problems that we've seen with RHN updates is that older versions of packages are not available if a new one comes out. This has caused us problems in the past with our TSM server.
Case in point:
IBM in thier infinite wisdom decided that the Tape Library driver would not only check for the specific version of the kernel RPM but also check for the specific subrelease! I.E. kernel-smp-2.4.9-48.i386.rpm was supported but kernel-smp-2.4.9-65.i386.rpm was NOT. This drove us batshit because we went to install a new TSM server and we had two kernel choices, keep the one on the install media which had known bugs or upgrade via RHN to the newest kernel that had the performance bug squashed. Meanwhile the driver was only available for a release somewhere in between those two and RHN wasn't making it available for download anymore. The RPM installer for the driver (which was only available in RPM) refused to install if you didn't have the specific subrelease! The only way around it was a little rpm2tgz magic and remain "unsupported" until IBM saw fit to release a version of the driver for that kernel.
What ended up happening was that a NEWER kernel was released shortly after that. IBM built to THAT kernel instead of the one we had so we were forced to do a kernel upgrade just to install the driver.
Now having said all that, I can understand why this guy might have had to deal with that if SAP were a hardware vendor but they aren't. As MANY people have mentioned before in this thread, the problem really lies with SAP and the fact that the product will only be "supported" at very specific levels of certain Redhat packages.
The only real choice is to make sure you download each and every package that get mentioned in the errata from RHN when it's announced and then wait for SAP to announce which combination is newly supported and upgrade at that time. If you don't then you may be SOL because a package could be superceded in RHN and you won't even be able to get that package again.
And when IBM or HP or EMC says they won't support the $50k dollar SAN that your production database is attached to because you built a custom kernel, don't come whining here.
Face it, the enterprise market is built around Redhat and Suse. That's it and the hardware and software vendors build to the stock install BECAUSE Linux is SO configurable. Redhat goes to great pains to not change a single interface in each patch set because there is software and drivers out there from vendors that is built to that specific platform.
Anyone who says to recompile the kernel has obviously never worked in a real enterprise environment beyond HPC or Research.
Linux in the enterprise is treated like AIX or Solaris or HPUX or Windows in the enterprise. Here's a hint, Redhat and Novell won't support your custom compiled kernel either. The first thing they'll tell you is to try it with a stock kernel. You might be an idiot and forgot to compile in something like support for a kernel arp daemon that FooBar vendor product requires but you wouldn't normally compile in.
Having said all that, there are places where we run unsupported distros on production machines but we only run it on a platform that we have full source access to (i.e. apache,php,postgres,postfix) but not when it's a binary only vendor product (DB2, Websphere, Informatica). When your business depends on a system being up and you have to call the vendor for support because of downtime, you'll run the explicitly supported configuration or you'll loose your job (or switch vendors if that's an option).
Case in point:
We run alot of IBM product. When we first started our Linux migration, we chose Websphere as our app server because we wanted the enterprise support in case something went wrong. Now that we're two years running Websphere, we're looking at moving to Tomcat/Jonas or Tomcat/JBoss. Our developers have always developed on Tomcat so there's no question of our internal applications not working. The first tomcat server we'll use will be running a community supported distro. Why? Well the hardware our app servers run on is a typical IBM 1U server. There's no special hardware requirement there (SAN access or specialized hardware) and we won't have to call IBM for support if we have a tomcat problem because, while I'm sure they would be glad to sell us a specialized support contract, we won't need it. That move alone will save us 28 CPU licenses of Websphere.
Will we loose some functionality? Sure. Websphere's Deployment manager doesn't have a comparable open-source pairing but we can make up for that with some internal scripts. We don't use EJBs so other than the NDM and wsadmin.sh, we're not really using Websphere to its full potential anyway.
pg_autovacuum is optional and CAN have a negative impact on normal performance during large data loads (such as a nightly warehouse loads)
Did anyone notice this in an interview from earlier this year?
--quote--
Barry Caudill: Civilization 4 will be the most moddable version of Civilization ever. Players can edit basic stats and attributes in XML files. On a higher level, much of the game will be exposed to Python so modders will be able to edit events and have more control over how the game works. On an even higher level, we are planning to provide an AI SDK to allow experienced programmers to dig very deep into customization.
--endquote--
Scripting via python eh? Might be the impetus I've been looking for to pick it up.
Actually it depends on the need. Maybe not in the router market all the time but in other markets, yes. It's also all about cost.
I've recently turned into a HUGE Juniper fanboy recently. I was already an HP Procurve fanboy after some Cisco catalyst issues. That and price per port/performance trounces Cisco.
In our situation, we had a vpn provider running a single Cisco 3030 concentrator.A maxed out 3030 costs around 25 or 30k and can support 500 nailed down tunnels with 50MB/s of encrypted throughput.
Meanwhile two Netscreen 208s with core plus same day support cost us about 30k total.
Stats on the Netscreen? 1000 nailed down tunnels and 200MB/s of 3DES encrypted throughput.
These can also operate in an active/active setup and double the throughput (but not the tunnels).
Now the question really begs "Should Cisco have bought Netscreen instead of Altiga? In my mind yes. Netscreen's use of ASICs is what really gives them the power.
Since I've not had the experience of dealing with the Juniper routers, I don't have an equivilent model comparison. I do know though that Juniper uses the "pc-based" architecture just like Cisco in the router line. To give Cisco credit, I am pretty impressed with the horsepower boost in the 2800 line over the 2600.
I'm just waiting for Juniper to buy Foundry and be the beast that Cisco needs. That will fill out the product line QUITE nicely.
probably the same way anybody who's dealt with jabber did.
Your JID is like an email. By default it will try to connect to the hostname part of your JID. In some cases, such as our corporate IM, we operate with an LDAP backend that indexes off email address. Our domain xxxxxxxxx.xxx points to another host than the Jabber server so what we do is advance configure IM clients to use a specific host.
Since people were saying that this is tied into gmail and that your gmail account was your login, you would guess that your JID is username@gmail.co m but it's doubtful that gmail.com would be listening for Jabber traffic right now. talk.google.com had been mentioned previously as the server where the service was running so you would gather that is the connect server.
Simple really. Not that I figured it out just because I've had all IM traffic except ours blocked on the firewall for the longest time. I'm only slightly tempted to allow gmail jabber traffic through but because of how jabber is setup, I can just define an s2s connection in our server config.
Kudos to the GP.
That case looks ALOT like the Microway Whisper Station:
Microway
I seriously considered buying that box when I built my computer a few months back. I ended up going with this:
Micronux
because it was the best cost with the stuff I wanted at the time. I'd buy from them again but I'm going to investigate other cases for the system. This one runs hot and loud. While it's under my desk off to the side, it still drives me nuts sometimes.
This is the case I bought my wife when I built her computer at Christmas. She has the black model and I have to say it's the single most pleasant case I've EVER worked in. That goes for some of the IBM rack mounts too. It is VERY spacious and the hard drive mounts are the coolest this side of the planet.
;)
I actually have to crack it open again soon and put in the floppy/flash card reader and I'm actually looking forward to getting in there.
My case, however, is not as pleasant since it's basically a tower to rack convertable. It weighs a ton and there is VERY shitty airflow. Then again mine is a dual opteron and her's is just an athlon socket 939
If you've not drooled over the stuff on the Lian-Li website, I suggest you go. It's a hella cool set of gear.
Have you seen the crap that word exports as HTML? It's impossible to navigate. You really need a tool that understands the special tags that MS uses in the "HTML" it creates.
They've actually done a small bit of this in the following sense. They've ported those technologies across all the platforms.
I remember when we bought our x445s a few years back. They told us we could run a stripped down version of vmware and create LPARs on top of that if we wanted.
Of course now we've moved to p5 land so we're doing the LPARs there but same concept.
And you're proving what he said earlier about open standards != open source.
Microsoft Word format is NOT an open standard but oddly enough several Open Source projects support it.
How about this example? XML is an open standard but I don't see an opensource version of XMLSpy out there. Same for HTML. It's an open standard but Internet Explorer is not open source.
While we're still waiting to go see the movie, I think I would prefer the American version to the French one.
Number 1) Morgan Freeman doing the voice overs.
Number 2) The voice overs in the French version are actually characterized voices for each penguin (i.e. a wife, a husband and a baby). That doesn't scream documentary to me. It screams cartoon.
I did like the previous documentary he did though (Winged Migration) so I'm sure I'll like this one as well.
We have the Life of Birds DVD set and my wife has watched it SEVERAL times over and over.
My single favorite part is the Mimic in Australia that makes , not only "normal" bird sounds" but imitates a camera shutter clicking, an automatic camera rewinding and, sadly enough, the sound of chainsaws revving up to cut down trees.
Freaking amazing.
I can only say one thing:
Smack that ass, Stump.
I was lucky enough to have a roomate who was pretty good friends with the band and that got me hooked on em. I wonder if I still have some old board bootlegs lying around the house.
Damnit I happened to *LIKE* Automan. I always thought I imagined the whole series because no one else had ever heard of it.
I will agree that while I have some memories of BSG, the show wasn't THAT big of a deal. Other than the fact that it was sci-fi different that Star Trek.
mmmmmmmmmmmm timmy ho.
That's one of the many reasons I love to visit the inlaws in Michigan. There's a Tim Horton's on the way to Flint leaving Saginaw. Safest place on earth at 3AM cause the parking lot is full of cops.
Speaking of IBM partners, I don't know how they keep the ones they have much less get any new ones.
Have you purchased a pSeries recently? All the shit you have to jump through and then you're locked into the original partner you bought the unit from unless you go through some religious machinations to get IBM to switch the entire unit to the new partner or IBM themselves.
All they tell me is that to sell pSeries you have to provide some sort of value add. How about selling me the I/O drawer I want at a good price? That's a fucking value add to me.
I don't think the majority of the Western world does either. I honestly think that this Iraq thing is just the result of a man who REALLY believes that this is the solution to the Middle East.
I personally think we should ALL get the hell out of the middle east and let them blow themselves up if that's what they want to do.
There are asshole dictators all over the world and Iraq was the first we went after? The ONLY reason that was possible is because of 9/11. People were afraid of "them Muslims".
We have no business in building nations. It's failed us in the past and it will continue to fail us.
And I would support your battle with your invaders but Al Quaeda was doing this before 9/11 and before the Iraq invasion.
I simply cannot them with a legitimate attack on occupational forces as described in your scenario.