I do believe he has been in on the deception, and willfully perpetrated it on the people of the world.
As for what we COULD have done? Well, ASSUMING we aren't already in contact with extraterrestrial intelligences, we should concentrate on the technology that will bring mankind to the stars.
SETI's probability of success is, for all practical purposes, ZERO.
Consider:
The sheer power a transmission must achieve to cross interstellar distances and remain coherent.
The narrow timeframe that radio will be used, just among humans... 200 years, maybe 300 years? What's that in the scale of BILLIONS of years?
Even the scale of mankind's achievements... it's all happened in a cosmic "blink of the eye" The chance of that happening to another civilization are infinitely small.
Multiply that with the "billions and billions" of stars out there, only a handful are even within the range that a PURPOSEFUL, DIRECTIONAL signal sent here could reach. That assumes somebody wantgs to talk to US.
I firmly believe that exploration is the ONLY way mankind will ever encounter such intelligence, unless it's already happened to us by way of THEM visiting us. If that's the case, then they've already decided to keep it between them and the powers that be - so we are still SOL.
Sagan maintained a high profile, and reiterated his thought that UFOs were hogwash and it was unlikely we had ever been visited. Oddly, there IS evidence that something has been going on. To ignore that, and continue to make such pronunciations is odd indeed - unless he had knowledge we didn't and was part of a "greater plan".
Great... just because the high and mighty moderators worship the gorund Carl Sagan walked on, I get tagged a troll.
The truth is that Carl Sagan knew more than you or I will EVER know about the extraterrestrial presence here on Earth, and served the government to disinform the public and keep that secret. "Look to the skys!" because the truth is under your nose, and we don't want you looking there!!! SETI was a joke. Sagan was behind it all, and for someone with his insight and knowledge, there is no way he could not have seen that.
For you people to worship him is a disgrace. Call me a troll all you want, but the TRUTH is out there, even if you yourselves DENY it.
Wow. How STUPID can this filter be?
I went to use babel.altavista.com to translate some German to English for work.... and it REJECTED ME!!!!
I think it didn't like "babe" in "babel"
How do you like that one????? Yet, I be I could surf to StileProject without so much as an eyeblink from the thing.
Yes, California doesn't need to tally the absentee ballots in their race, since Gore won by over a million, but those ballots could put Bush into the lead in the POPULAR vote!
Neither side can claim the popular vote in this election. This lie has been propagated in the media, and ignores the many uncounted votes in this close election (200,000 votes, and with Bush garnering a 2-1 margin on those military ballots, the California vote COULD easily swing the poplar vote his way).
Wrong. I have an AD-600A Apex, and YES there is a quite useless option to turn off CSS Decryption, but it has no effect on unencrypted DVD (I have a couple of those).
Unencrypted DVDs also had the odd effect of not turning on Macrovision on my old ATI card's DVD playback.
CSS encryption is simply an option for DVD encoded video. ALL DVD players will detect if the encryption is there or not and play it back properly.
and other countries... This is why H-1B visas are needed, to keep work here in the U.S.
Foriegn workers are tax-payers, and contributors to our economy. Better to keep the work here than ship it overseas, where developers get pennies on the dollar compared to here in the U.S.
In the search for cheaper costs, managers have resorted to using sub-standard foriegn resource centers, often lacking basic communication capabilities, and operating in time zones wildly out of whack with customers here in the U.S. This practice, in my experience, has been a disaster. Ultimately, I've seen business LOST because of this, and whole programs lost as control drifted away from the original teams that developed them.
And yes, there IS a shortage of qualified software developers and IT personnel. Can Visas replace them? Well, in my experience, the percentage of clueless is about the same, but at least SOME of those coming here are qualified and skilled. In my opinion, those are the people we need to encourage to STAY here, permanently. Unfortunately, the H-1B Visas are set up to PREVENT that from happening.
Maybe instead of releasing toys, webpads and countless other pieces of crap, they should concentrate on getting one good piece of hardware out in decent quantities....
Possibly. Alien microbes could wreak havoc on life here on Mother Terra.... Humanity could end with a whimper, superceded by a microscopic life form born on another planet, brought here by our own wreckless exploration of space.
Oooops... that was the plot from Stephen Baxter's Moonseed
What does Opera have to do with Netscape's browser costing anything?
Netscape had it's laughable "personal priced" version for a few years ($49.95) and managed to suck in a few thousandths of a percent of Netscape users into paying fees, then repealed that a couple of years ago. It also retail boxes the browser, just as M$ does. It doesn't change the fact that both browsers have been available for FREE DOWNLOAD since they were created, with no features disabled or limited.
Odd. It doesn't show up when I go to Windows Update... of course, I know enough to properly set up my internet settings. And of course, anybody can cut an dpaste, too, if they are so inclined.
As for display "bugs" IE displays bad html pages a lot more successfully than Netscape ever has or, apparently, ever will. On top of that, it uses far fewer resources than Netscape does for the same content. Perhaps this is because of the heavy reliance on IE auxillary code in so many of the M$ applications and OS subsystems (rendering code, http put/fetches, jpg/gif image imports, ActiveX container support) that so much effort has been invested in making it efficient.
Obviously, you are biased against M$ and it really doesn't matter HOW good the producats are, right? But how many Sony or Nike products do you own? They promote similar tactics... Intel? Phillip Morris family products? P&G? Look around you... M$ didn't bully it's way to #1, but I'll admit it has used it's weight to stay there. Still, it's no reason not to give credit where credit is due. IE is good. Netscape sucks.
Oh, and don't forget, M$ Linux will be out in a year or so.... I'm sure we'll see IE for Linux at that time.
Netscape gave away the browser... sure, there was a price tag, but only corporations and extremely gullible (or "honest") private users ever paid the fee. The full version has ALWAYS (from Day 1) been available for download without any registration or any means to track the product.
This was done on purpose. It was meant to spread the "Netscape Mindshare" and sell servers to people who wanted to ensure MAXIMUM compatibility with all those browsers.
In 1995, Netscape had something like 90% of the market, until Windows95 shipped with IE included. Even with the pack-in, the balance really didn't shift until M$ came out with version 3.0 (seems to be a magic number for them... Win 3.x, Dos 3.x).
Netscape never made money on the browser, except for large corporate licensing fees (many corporations still pay these, but the numbers are dwindling rapidly), and Netscape never thought twice about deviating from standards when it served their purpose for selling servrs (not unlike M$).
And of course, selling out to AOL lead to <SARCASM>a major innovation</SARCASM>... the inclusion of AOL's proprietary IM service using their crappy client. The only thing more annoying is the damn DOJ-imposed "Online Services" folder that keeps cropping up in every Windows install I do....
Not a troll... just a statement of my observations... I resisted switching to IE for a few years, but I got fed up with all the countless bugs and resource/memory leaks (which were NEVER fixed, even after I properly reported reproducable bugs).
Now this. Netscape's browser was merely a platform to sell Netscape's server software. They only complained about IE when M$ started giving away IIS with NT - and then got really loud when IE surpassed Communicator in features and support (that's right... M$ might have had a few security leaks to fix, but they usually responded swiftly). Netscape often gets a lot less scrutiny compared to M$' browser, too, I might add.
Netscape sucks. A one hit wonder that now ranks below M$ and others in browser and server software.
Why should OpenWindows not have the M$ APIs? These are merely interfacing specs M$ has established to link TO Windows... it is meely the conduit for OS activity, not the actual proprietary code that OpenWindows seeks to replace. I think it's wonderful that somebody is "cloning" Windows... perhaps they can do a better job and shame M$ into slowing the "new release" train long enough to fix existing bugs before coming out ith new versions and technologies.
"5 years later" is 1989. In case you haven't noticed yet, it's 2000...
I didn't say they continued to innovate.... I said they didn't mature much in the first five years, and then only to add features to play "catch up" with the rest of the PC world (Amiga included). Apple never really innovated after the first Mac his the scene. Since then, it's been more about looks and case design than about function and UI.
And I don't argue that. It still doesn't change the fact that while Apple pioneered the commercial GUI OS, it didn't mature much beyond it's initial state until 5 years later, and even then it was little more than adding color and bowing to multifinder. I got a lot more done on my 8mhz XT clone then on a Mac Plus.
Have I ever claimed John Dvorak was smart? Not hardly. That guy is a moron most of the time.
and it doesn't look like a bread machine from Sharper Image.
Apple just sucks. Since Windows 95, they've swapped places and started copying Microsoft's ideas... (like two years ago, when they were hawking "new" Apple OS concepts like http shortcuts and variable-size thumb scroll bars) Now they have the nerve to call a 450mhz 64MB G4 box a "supercomputer??" WTF? Sounds like there's a little too much of that medicinal "smoke" going around the offices.
Apple hasn't innovated since 1983... and even that was just to rip off Xerox PARC by commercializing the GUI and mouse.
We have the COMPLETE video of Cartman's Mom and Mr. Garrison in Shiesse Fraulien nAVI at your local alt.binaries.movies usenet group. Very shocking indeed... there's more than watersports going on in the Cartman Dungeon!
He claims he didn't do it for publicity, but admitted as much in the above article. Come on, Slashdotters, let's stop giving this guy more than his 15 minutes of fame!!!!
Think of it. This is EXACTLY why SETI is destined to forver fail.
The future of communications is point-to-point wormhole transmission. Two points will be opened up between locations, connecting a pair of laser emitters/detectors. No possible interception of the signal, no battle with the speed of light (required for deep space transmission) or strength of signal. No battle over precious bandwidth.
We are very close to realizing this technology. Radio will survive for another 100 years, maximum on this planet, supplanted by supperior point-to-point technology, as it happens for all star-faring sentient species.
Time for the DOJ and FTC to move on RAMBUS and shut this anti-competitive crap down.
I was hoping that RAMBUS would see the light and finally DROP the puch for RDRAM technology in favor of the more promising DDR and QDR RAM. Unfortunately, they choose to pursue an effort to squash better, cheaper technology in favor of an inferior, power-gobbling waste of IP. There's no doubt that the DOJ needs to be sicced on these guys!!
Seems like you trolls are the only ones with your heads buried in your asses... Why not try and refute any of the points I made? Or perhaps you have too much invested in your DC and games and simply wish to attack anybody who speaks the truth.
The Dreamcast is DEAD technology. In Japan, where the PSX2 is OUT, they have to give them away in order to move them, with internet tie-ines just like those crappy "free PCs" with Cyrix PR-300s and PC66 RAM.
Geez. Just like your game console, you have no balls either. Anonymous Cowards, indeed.
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As for what we COULD have done? Well, ASSUMING we aren't already in contact with extraterrestrial intelligences, we should concentrate on the technology that will bring mankind to the stars.
SETI's probability of success is, for all practical purposes, ZERO.
Consider:
I firmly believe that exploration is the ONLY way mankind will ever encounter such intelligence, unless it's already happened to us by way of THEM visiting us. If that's the case, then they've already decided to keep it between them and the powers that be - so we are still SOL.
Sagan maintained a high profile, and reiterated his thought that UFOs were hogwash and it was unlikely we had ever been visited. Oddly, there IS evidence that something has been going on. To ignore that, and continue to make such pronunciations is odd indeed - unless he had knowledge we didn't and was part of a "greater plan".
"Contact" only seems to further the propaganda.
Great... just because the high and mighty moderators worship the gorund Carl Sagan walked on, I get tagged a troll.
The truth is that Carl Sagan knew more than you or I will EVER know about the extraterrestrial presence here on Earth, and served the government to disinform the public and keep that secret. "Look to the skys!" because the truth is under your nose, and we don't want you looking there!!! SETI was a joke. Sagan was behind it all, and for someone with his insight and knowledge, there is no way he could not have seen that.
For you people to worship him is a disgrace. Call me a troll all you want, but the TRUTH is out there, even if you yourselves DENY it.
Pi'neer returns to destroy an earth made bland by balding men and unisex uniforms, plodding along aimlessly.
Wow. How STUPID can this filter be? I went to use babel.altavista.com to translate some German to English for work.... and it REJECTED ME!!!! I think it didn't like "babe" in "babel" How do you like that one????? Yet, I be I could surf to StileProject without so much as an eyeblink from the thing.
Yes, California doesn't need to tally the absentee ballots in their race, since Gore won by over a million, but those ballots could put Bush into the lead in the POPULAR vote! Neither side can claim the popular vote in this election. This lie has been propagated in the media, and ignores the many uncounted votes in this close election (200,000 votes, and with Bush garnering a 2-1 margin on those military ballots, the California vote COULD easily swing the poplar vote his way).
Wrong. I have an AD-600A Apex, and YES there is a quite useless option to turn off CSS Decryption, but it has no effect on unencrypted DVD (I have a couple of those). Unencrypted DVDs also had the odd effect of not turning on Macrovision on my old ATI card's DVD playback. CSS encryption is simply an option for DVD encoded video. ALL DVD players will detect if the encryption is there or not and play it back properly.
and other countries... This is why H-1B visas are needed, to keep work here in the U.S.
Foriegn workers are tax-payers, and contributors to our economy. Better to keep the work here than ship it overseas, where developers get pennies on the dollar compared to here in the U.S.
In the search for cheaper costs, managers have resorted to using sub-standard foriegn resource centers, often lacking basic communication capabilities, and operating in time zones wildly out of whack with customers here in the U.S. This practice, in my experience, has been a disaster. Ultimately, I've seen business LOST because of this, and whole programs lost as control drifted away from the original teams that developed them.
And yes, there IS a shortage of qualified software developers and IT personnel. Can Visas replace them? Well, in my experience, the percentage of clueless is about the same, but at least SOME of those coming here are qualified and skilled. In my opinion, those are the people we need to encourage to STAY here, permanently. Unfortunately, the H-1B Visas are set up to PREVENT that from happening.
Maybe instead of releasing toys, webpads and countless other pieces of crap, they should concentrate on getting one good piece of hardware out in decent quantities....
It's all about the PS2s, baby!
You'd think it could handle the load, what with 31 processors and all.
Now, imagine a beowulf cluster of these things...
Possibly. Alien microbes could wreak havoc on life here on Mother Terra.... Humanity could end with a whimper, superceded by a microscopic life form born on another planet, brought here by our own wreckless exploration of space.
Oooops... that was the plot from Stephen Baxter's Moonseed
What does Opera have to do with Netscape's browser costing anything?
Netscape had it's laughable "personal priced" version for a few years ($49.95) and managed to suck in a few thousandths of a percent of Netscape users into paying fees, then repealed that a couple of years ago. It also retail boxes the browser, just as M$ does. It doesn't change the fact that both browsers have been available for FREE DOWNLOAD since they were created, with no features disabled or limited.
Odd. It doesn't show up when I go to Windows Update... of course, I know enough to properly set up my internet settings. And of course, anybody can cut an dpaste, too, if they are so inclined.
As for display "bugs" IE displays bad html pages a lot more successfully than Netscape ever has or, apparently, ever will. On top of that, it uses far fewer resources than Netscape does for the same content. Perhaps this is because of the heavy reliance on IE auxillary code in so many of the M$ applications and OS subsystems (rendering code, http put/fetches, jpg/gif image imports, ActiveX container support) that so much effort has been invested in making it efficient.
Obviously, you are biased against M$ and it really doesn't matter HOW good the producats are, right? But how many Sony or Nike products do you own? They promote similar tactics... Intel? Phillip Morris family products? P&G? Look around you... M$ didn't bully it's way to #1, but I'll admit it has used it's weight to stay there. Still, it's no reason not to give credit where credit is due. IE is good. Netscape sucks.
Oh, and don't forget, M$ Linux will be out in a year or so.... I'm sure we'll see IE for Linux at that time.
Netscape gave away the browser... sure, there was a price tag, but only corporations and extremely gullible (or "honest") private users ever paid the fee. The full version has ALWAYS (from Day 1) been available for download without any registration or any means to track the product.
This was done on purpose. It was meant to spread the "Netscape Mindshare" and sell servers to people who wanted to ensure MAXIMUM compatibility with all those browsers.
In 1995, Netscape had something like 90% of the market, until Windows95 shipped with IE included. Even with the pack-in, the balance really didn't shift until M$ came out with version 3.0 (seems to be a magic number for them... Win 3.x, Dos 3.x).
Netscape never made money on the browser, except for large corporate licensing fees (many corporations still pay these, but the numbers are dwindling rapidly), and Netscape never thought twice about deviating from standards when it served their purpose for selling servrs (not unlike M$).
And of course, selling out to AOL lead to <SARCASM>a major innovation</SARCASM>... the inclusion of AOL's proprietary IM service using their crappy client. The only thing more annoying is the damn DOJ-imposed "Online Services" folder that keeps cropping up in every Windows install I do....
Not a troll... just a statement of my observations... I resisted switching to IE for a few years, but I got fed up with all the countless bugs and resource/memory leaks (which were NEVER fixed, even after I properly reported reproducable bugs).
Now this. Netscape's browser was merely a platform to sell Netscape's server software. They only complained about IE when M$ started giving away IIS with NT - and then got really loud when IE surpassed Communicator in features and support (that's right... M$ might have had a few security leaks to fix, but they usually responded swiftly). Netscape often gets a lot less scrutiny compared to M$' browser, too, I might add.
Netscape sucks. A one hit wonder that now ranks below M$ and others in browser and server software.
it will continue! AppleScoop
Without all the APIs, is this even feasible?
Why should OpenWindows not have the M$ APIs? These are merely interfacing specs M$ has established to link TO Windows... it is meely the conduit for OS activity, not the actual proprietary code that OpenWindows seeks to replace. I think it's wonderful that somebody is "cloning" Windows... perhaps they can do a better job and shame M$ into slowing the "new release" train long enough to fix existing bugs before coming out ith new versions and technologies.
"5 years later" is 1989. In case you haven't noticed yet, it's 2000...
I didn't say they continued to innovate.... I said they didn't mature much in the first five years, and then only to add features to play "catch up" with the rest of the PC world (Amiga included). Apple never really innovated after the first Mac his the scene. Since then, it's been more about looks and case design than about function and UI.
And I don't argue that. It still doesn't change the fact that while Apple pioneered the commercial GUI OS, it didn't mature much beyond it's initial state until 5 years later, and even then it was little more than adding color and bowing to multifinder. I got a lot more done on my 8mhz XT clone then on a Mac Plus.
Have I ever claimed John Dvorak was smart? Not hardly. That guy is a moron most of the time.
It's not a box! It's the next major Apple System, hurry up and check it out before Apple Lawyers force this site to take down the pictures!
and it doesn't look like a bread machine from Sharper Image.
Apple just sucks. Since Windows 95, they've swapped places and started copying Microsoft's ideas... (like two years ago, when they were hawking "new" Apple OS concepts like http shortcuts and variable-size thumb scroll bars) Now they have the nerve to call a 450mhz 64MB G4 box a "supercomputer??" WTF? Sounds like there's a little too much of that medicinal "smoke" going around the offices.
Apple hasn't innovated since 1983... and even that was just to rip off Xerox PARC by commercializing the GUI and mouse.
We have the COMPLETE video of Cartman's Mom and Mr. Garrison in Shiesse Fraulien nAVI at your local alt.binaries.movies usenet group. Very shocking indeed... there's more than watersports going on in the Cartman Dungeon!
Of course, the Fix brothers are two dorks running this operation on the 12 systems in their TrueValue hardware store (where they work as stockboys) while the warbling, questionably talented Stefanie is on tour, apparently oblivious to their efforts. Odd, he doesn't even seem to have any means to contact her until her tour ends. Must be on the Third World tour.
He claims he didn't do it for publicity, but admitted as much in the above article. Come on, Slashdotters, let's stop giving this guy more than his 15 minutes of fame!!!!
Think of it. This is EXACTLY why SETI is destined to forver fail.
The future of communications is point-to-point wormhole transmission. Two points will be opened up between locations, connecting a pair of laser emitters/detectors. No possible interception of the signal, no battle with the speed of light (required for deep space transmission) or strength of signal. No battle over precious bandwidth.
We are very close to realizing this technology. Radio will survive for another 100 years, maximum on this planet, supplanted by supperior point-to-point technology, as it happens for all star-faring sentient species.
Time for the DOJ and FTC to move on RAMBUS and shut this anti-competitive crap down.
I was hoping that RAMBUS would see the light and finally DROP the puch for RDRAM technology in favor of the more promising DDR and QDR RAM. Unfortunately, they choose to pursue an effort to squash better, cheaper technology in favor of an inferior, power-gobbling waste of IP. There's no doubt that the DOJ needs to be sicced on these guys!!
Seems like you trolls are the only ones with your heads buried in your asses... Why not try and refute any of the points I made? Or perhaps you have too much invested in your DC and games and simply wish to attack anybody who speaks the truth.
The Dreamcast is DEAD technology. In Japan, where the PSX2 is OUT, they have to give them away in order to move them, with internet tie-ines just like those crappy "free PCs" with Cyrix PR-300s and PC66 RAM.
Geez. Just like your game console, you have no balls either. Anonymous Cowards, indeed.