What to do about it? If I were a developer I'd start by trying to incorporate some of the Samba code into Mozilla to attempt to create some kind of compatibility there. I'm talking browser/client side here, I know Apache has mod_ntlm.
If Mozilla/Netscape is going to gain any kind of share back it's going to have to start someplace. It won't be on the user desktop, as you can bet IE will still come with Windows for a while. If corporations can easily switch back and forth without worrying about 'I can't access my dept. web site!' calls to the help desk...they just might.
True, the new crop of emulator sites is quite nice. Looks like davesclassics is gone forever. Probably as a result of the aforementioned legal troubles...
Too bad. Dave's Classics was what got me into emulators to begin with....
I forget the exact details, but about 1.5-2 years ago, excellent sites like davesclassics.com were nearly shut down permanantly (Dave's was off for a long time) and are now but shadows of their former selves. Seems that some company or organization (I forget exactly who) took them to task and threatened major legal action. The whole affair was detailed pretty well there (I can't remember much of it.) So *that's* why you won't find any well laid-out ROM sites in the US anyway. I'll bet the guy was from www.mame.dk (looks familiar?) Personally I think MAME rocks and is an effort that should be supported by the makers of all those great games, from Atari to Taito....
dbase III+ had macros IIRC. More or less the same thing. Those were the days. I remember a re-index on a set of databases with only a few thousand lines taking upwards of 20+ minutes on that old PC-AT. *memorreeeeeees*
The problem is : how can we go after the "illegal" Tux logo users ? Who's going to pay the legal fees for this ?
You'd probably just have to make a big stink about it on the organization's web site. X product carries the 'TCL' but does not conform If the organization carried any muster at all this would cause enough ruckus in the community that should make a difference.
But then the question is: How would we convince compliant hardware manufacturers to actually *use* the logo?
If you can get a hold of an old LPX-case 486 or pentium computer, then you've got a case. You can find them pretty cheap (I picked up a pair of acer lpx 486's on ebay a while back for $20 ea., one of which is my home firewall/masq box.)
Then you can probably find an LPX pentium board the same way. I've seen some gateway lpx (Pentium 1 class) boards for ~$50. I'm sure there are probably P2 boards out there as well. Find one with a built-in nic and you're all set.
Bah. I saw Metallica on the Black Album tour. The only vaguely interesting part was seeing Kirk play the guitar with his ass. They'd already sold out by then so who cares. Right now I've got visions of James in a wheel chair going 'pooped ma pants! hella sucks!'
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The only way to play paratrooper is on an Apple II. Paratrooper rocks. IT ROCKS!!
The way I understand the operation of these type of engines is that the actual thrust doesn't come from the force-reaction of the exhaust against the air/surface/ground, but rather from the pressure/velocity of the exhaust against the rocket itself.
Ion engines (again working from memory) don't utilize the pressure reaction (like conventional rockets) near as much as the velocity reaction.
(Yes they're all related as any fluids or MHD guy can tell you, but I think thats how it goes. I did a big paper on this type of thing about 7-8 years ago and I've slept since then.)
So if you've got atmospheric pressure working against you (i.e. in air)...it won't work as well.
Plasma/Ion engines DO NOT work well against atmosphere. There's too much interaction between the air both in front of and behind the spacecraft to make it useful. In space:
<---ions---::rocket:::> --> motion
in atmosphere:
-air-->@#$%@#$<--ions--::rocket:::> <--air--
The @$%!@#$#% reduces the rocket's thrust (action-reaction) and the air just makes things worse on the front.
OK, here's my $0.02.... 1. Mail: Exchange servers will generally talk IMAP. I can read my mail from an Exchange server just fine using any IMAP reader. Of course if your company doesn't do it this way you're hosed. A lot of places shut down POP support since it's "insecure" or something...(no more than anything else....)
2. Documents: For 90% of the documents that most people in an office environment use/create/read, etc., they're probably not using any of the 'advanced' features that would normally break compatibility. It's the other 10% who've got all the macros, templates, graphs, OLE links, and undocumented file format features that will have trouble.
3. Presentations: Unfortunately a big hurdle is all the PHB's whose time is spent created powerpoint slide shows to yammer on about at meeting after meeting. Until we get a powerpoint clone that can 100% handle powerpoint files (these are probably the MOST incompatible between versions) then forget it.
Any spreadsheet will work fine for simply formatting data columns and doing simple charting. Any word processor will work fine for the simple letters, memos, etc. etc. But the above issues are where the problem lies.
Odd, my 6020 here is happily burning away and has been for 3 years now...I've often pondered on it's reliability actually...Is this specific to external drives maybe?
Color me silly, but didn't CDE, among other desktop environments, have a 'taskbar' long before (or at least sometime prior to) Win95? CDE's been around a while. I seem to recall back in '95 using FVWM which had a taskbar but I can't recall if that feature made it in before the release of Win 95'.... Don't give credit to the behemoth where it isn't due.
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Not true...
It's on the download-able ISO image.
Just configure it to point to ftp.redhat.com instead of priority.redhat.com.
It works. Just be aware that at times ftp.redhat.com is busy and you won't be able to connect.
I'm not too fond of the program, but it automates the process, painfully, but it works.
What to do about it?
:)
If I were a developer I'd start by trying to incorporate some of the Samba code into Mozilla to attempt to create some kind of compatibility there. I'm talking browser/client side here, I know Apache has mod_ntlm.
If Mozilla/Netscape is going to gain any kind of share back it's going to have to start someplace. It won't be on the user desktop, as you can bet IE will still come with Windows for a while. If corporations can easily switch back and forth without worrying about 'I can't access my dept. web site!' calls to the help desk...they just might.
(Original poster of this thread BTW)
True, the new crop of emulator sites is quite nice. Looks like davesclassics is gone forever. Probably as a result of the aforementioned legal troubles...
Too bad. Dave's Classics was what got me into emulators to begin with....
I think (if memory serves) that Atari pong was primarily hardware based (?) and had extremely little in the way of actual software.
:)
In any case, write your own damn pong emulator!!!
I forget the exact details, but about 1.5-2 years ago, excellent sites like davesclassics.com were nearly shut down permanantly (Dave's was off for a long time) and are now but shadows of their former selves. Seems that some company or organization (I forget exactly who) took them to task and threatened major legal action. The whole affair was detailed pretty well there (I can't remember much of it.) So *that's* why you won't find any well laid-out ROM sites in the US anyway. I'll bet the guy was from www.mame.dk (looks familiar?) Personally I think MAME rocks and is an effort that should be supported by the makers of all those great games, from Atari to Taito....
dbase III+ had macros IIRC. More or less the same thing. Those were the days. I remember a re-index on a set of databases with only a few thousand lines taking upwards of 20+ minutes on that old PC-AT. *memorreeeeeees*
The problem is : how can we go after the "illegal" Tux logo users ? Who's going to pay the legal fees for this ?
You'd probably just have to make a big stink about it on the organization's web site. X product carries the 'TCL' but does not conform If the organization carried any muster at all this would cause enough ruckus in the community that should make a difference.
But then the question is: How would we convince compliant hardware manufacturers to actually *use* the logo?
If you can get a hold of an old LPX-case 486 or pentium computer, then you've got a case. You can find them pretty cheap (I picked up a pair of acer lpx 486's on ebay a while back for $20 ea., one of which is my home firewall/masq box.)
Then you can probably find an LPX pentium board the same way. I've seen some gateway lpx (Pentium 1 class) boards for ~$50. I'm sure there are probably P2 boards out there as well. Find one with a built-in nic and you're all set.
...a doctor at his desk asking:
"Do you want legs or tentacles?"
ObOldSNL....
A moon mission is an excellent cover for a generalized rocket program, which would probably include developing ICBM-type technology.
Think about it.
Bah. I saw Metallica on the Black Album tour. The only vaguely interesting part was seeing Kirk play the guitar with his ass. They'd already sold out by then so who cares. Right now I've got visions of James in a wheel chair going 'pooped ma pants! hella sucks!'
The only way to play paratrooper is on an Apple II. Paratrooper rocks. IT ROCKS!!
The way I understand the operation of these type of engines is that the actual thrust doesn't come from the force-reaction of the exhaust against the air/surface/ground, but rather from the pressure/velocity of the exhaust against the rocket itself.
Ion engines (again working from memory) don't utilize the pressure reaction (like conventional rockets) near as much as the velocity reaction.
(Yes they're all related as any fluids or MHD guy can tell you, but I think thats how it goes. I did a big paper on this type of thing about 7-8 years ago and I've slept since then.)
So if you've got atmospheric pressure working against you (i.e. in air)...it won't work as well.
Plasma/Ion engines DO NOT work well against atmosphere. There's too much interaction between the air both in front of and behind the spacecraft to make it useful. In space:
<---ions---::rocket:::> --> motion
in atmosphere:
-air-->@#$%@#$<--ions--::rocket:::> <--air--
The @$%!@#$#% reduces the rocket's thrust (action-reaction) and the air just makes things worse on the front.
At least that's how I understood it.
OK, here's my $0.02....
1. Mail: Exchange servers will generally talk IMAP. I can read my mail from an Exchange server just fine using any IMAP reader. Of course if your company doesn't do it this way you're hosed. A lot of places shut down POP support since it's "insecure" or something...(no more than anything else....)
2. Documents: For 90% of the documents that most people in an office environment use/create/read, etc., they're probably not using any of the 'advanced' features that would normally break compatibility. It's the other 10% who've got all the macros, templates, graphs, OLE links, and undocumented file format features that will have trouble.
3. Presentations: Unfortunately a big hurdle is all the PHB's whose time is spent created powerpoint slide shows to yammer on about at meeting after meeting. Until we get a powerpoint clone that can 100% handle powerpoint files (these are probably the MOST incompatible between versions) then forget it.
Any spreadsheet will work fine for simply formatting data columns and doing simple charting. Any word processor will work fine for the simple letters, memos, etc. etc. But the above issues are where the problem lies.
Odd, my 6020 here is happily burning away and has been for 3 years now...I've often pondered on it's reliability actually...Is this specific to external drives maybe?
Color me silly, but didn't CDE, among other desktop environments, have a 'taskbar' long before (or at least sometime prior to) Win95? CDE's been around a while. I seem to recall back in '95 using FVWM which had a taskbar but I can't recall if that feature made it in before the release of Win 95'.... Don't give credit to the behemoth where it isn't due.