What would cause that? I'm certainly not vouching for PyStar (I'll admit I'm clueless about their quality), but is there any iota of a hint of a suggestion that the machine might possibly be less reliable than Apple's machines? Did you run a Pystar and an Apple next to each other and learn that one brand works better than the other? Has anyone?
Yeah, people are reporting that it kind of runs OS X, but not nearly as well as other homebrewed x86 Macs and certainly not as well as a Mac from Apple.
The reports on these things are popping up all over the place now and the reports are not all that good. No support for software update, loud as hell, etc.
And, just maybe, have any of you pompous fuckers stopped to consider that the people buying Psystar's might not be looking to do exactly what you do? Sheesh. I try to make my case (not as well as I would have liked to) for why this won't see the light of day in a serious work environment and that makes me a fanboy and a pompous fucker.
Seriously. I tried to make a serious point and you come in and try to validate your ego (not your argument) by making personal insults. Bravo! You make YOUR point VERY well.
Take a class in debate and writing and semantics and maybe a class in etiquette and come back when you want to discuss things with the adults.
First rule: Attack the argument and not the person. You'll get much farther in life doing this.
Sorry for being hypothetical and exaggerating a little.
So my FCP system which is supported by Apple, Aja, Adobe and several other 3rd party vendors is going to get much needed technical support IF it goes down. That has only happened once in the last year of almost constant 40 hours of work per week.
When it did go down, we had Apple and Aja people on the phone within minutes and had the machine back up and running at full speed within an hour.
Now, let's say I get the Psystar, which, by all reports runs OS X not very well. If I have a problem with it and I call them and Aja for support, how much luck do you think I am going to have? The Aja card wouldn't be supported by Aja on a Psystar, so we have to resort to using message boards and other less than expedient methods to troubleshoot our problem.
Yes, half of my time as downtime is an exaggeration, but this machine WILL be down more often and won't have the support I need so troubleshooting will take longer, lots longer resulting in more unnecessary downtime.
The Apple machine with it's higher price tag brings with it a promise of greater stability, support and return on investment. I never said my Mac doesn't suck profits when it's down, but I guarantee you that these PsyStar machines are not up for the tasks I need it to accomplish and would be down far more frequently than my MacPro.
You aren't going to see PsyStars popping up in video post houses or big design firms any time soon because of the inherent lack of support you'll get.
My point is that development of the OS X desktop/finder/UI hasn't stopped. The tone of your post suggests that all they had to do to revamp NextStep into OS X was add a compatibility layer and twiddle some pixels.
I'm just trying to put some perspective on what I thought was an overly simplified view of what OS X is.
Getting reserved characters to work in file names was a huge undertaking. I remember reading articles in 1999 about what a Herculean task it was to make OS X behave like Windows and Mac OS 9 when it came to simply naming and managing files.
Most people really want to put &!@#$%^*() in their file names for some reason and with NextStep that was a big no no. This is a usability issue and one Apple worked really hard to overcome with OS X. So it wasn't simply slapping on some pretty pixels and a compatibility layer and moving the Dock around. (I move it to the left, btw)
So, I'm not trying to argue, I think you're just oversimplifying how big the reworking on NextStep to OS X really was.
And who started Next? Oh yeah... Steve Jobs! He placed a priority on Usability even then and he is still pushing usability as a foremost feature of the OS.
They bought Next for a reason and that was that they knew they could take an extensible architecture and make it work in a way that Apple customers had come to expect.
They also got Jobs back in the deal which sweetened the pot.
All I'm trying to say is that people who think that Mac OS X is "just a beautified version of BSD/NextStep" are way off base and that Apple has put a fair amount of effort into creating a useful, intuitive and unobtrusive computing environment.
Yeah, I cut film, yes actual film, and have moved through the digital age as well. The most important thing for me is system stability and asset management... at least with my current FCP system I have stability. Asset management requires the cooperation of my co-workers, so I'm in deep doodoo there.
And these days Avid needs to stay light on their feet. We have an Avid system here at work that hasn't been used in over 2 years, but both our FCP suites are booked upwards of 40 hours every single week.
Emo? Come on. What are you? 18? Obviously not if you worked on a Fairlight and Amiga system. Wasn't "emo" the teen-alternapop flavor of the month a few years back?
The Mac Pro's price is really close to where it should be.
One day of editing in my Final Cut suite has paid my salary for the day AND a large chunk of the initial investment in the system itself.
One week of 8 hours a day billable work and that machine has already paid for itself several times over.
The PsyStar? Probably going to have massive down time which eats into my hourly billing rates, so I might get 4 billable hours per day as opposed to 7 or 8.
Our clients pay big money to make sure our systems are up and running when they come in to edit their pieces. The more up time we have, the more money we make. The initial capital outlay for the PsyStar is less, but when you're doing video or serious graphics work, every billable hour counts and with an unsupported system, you are literally eating into your profits.
Getting work done reliably makes money. Cheaping out up front to save a few bucks will ultimately cost you far more money in the long run.
Yeah, try capturing ProRes 422 or DVCProHD encoded video to a USB 2 drive and tell me how fast it is.
Try capturing the same footage to a FireWire 400 drive. It actually works, but you should be using FireWire 800 when capturing those formats anyway... at the very least.
Even capturing DV/DVCPro NTSC video to USB 2.0 is a risky endeavor. Dropped frames galore!
USB 2 is great for storing images, audio, and work documents but for anything that requires dedicated bandwidth, you can't count on it.
Yeeeeeeah.... uh. A lot more went into it than "changing the bitmaps". I don't think you understand the great lengths Apple goes to to make working on the computer "not a chore". It's not just about making things pretty, but about making a seamless experience where the computer becomes a working environment and you don't have to think about what's going on behind the scenes.
An environment where you can just get stuff done.
I know that doesn't appeal to the FOSS crowd, but remember, you guys are a vast minority of computer users. Granted, a very important and overly vocal minority, but a minority nonetheless.
The vast majority of us just want to get stuff done.
Wow, what an oversimplification of what the "dekstop" is. The Mac's Finder is a very useful app in and of itself. Yes, things like multiple desktops have been available elsewhere before Leopard, but the Finder and the UI make for a very USEFUL session in front of the computer.
The computer recedes away and you have a space to work. Unlike Windows or most other desktops that seem to constantly remind you of the computer. Of course you can get your work done. Millions do every day, but the experience of it is far less refined and transparent.
When using a tool, the experience should be transparent. When I'm editing video, I really need to NOT think about the tools I'm using and just edit the video. Accessing and using the tools should be a rote action, reflex. If I have to think about the tools, it slows me down and puts me in left brain mode which is counterproductive to the process of editing which is a right brain activity.
Navigating through directories, managing files, finding commands in a menu, should be as seamless and transparent as possible. The Mac OS Finder has always striven to achieve that goal. The fact that it's "bubbly" adds to the effect, making using the computer a less technical event.
(Finding commands in a menu... ugh. More people really need to learn their keyboard commands but you know what I mean.)
So again, how Aqua looks is just one element of what the Mac OS Finder is and it's not just bolted on to make things pretty. It's designed that way to abstract the computer and make it more of a work environment that you don't have to consciously think about all the time.
I don't think anyone is saying that the government was THE KEY to the internet taking off. It did play a role though and not necessarily a negative one either.
If you think private industry would have done a better job and would have done anything to make it the least bit open, you're living in a dream world. Private enterprise is about maximizing profit and value for shareholders. End of story. If it weren't for governmental oversight, we would have had child labor and slavery far longer than we did.
True Laissez-faire free market economics is a utopian idea... just as is the ideal of Greek style democracy and marxist style communism.
The US government/society is a mish mash of democratic/socialist/federalist/capitalist ideas and practices. Not a single one of those political concepts can work as defined in a society as large as ours.
The very fact that businesses are run by individuals and groups of individuals with desires for wealth, power and satisfying their own sense of self importance guarantees that business is not capable of running itself with no oversight whatsoever.
That said, government is populated with the same type of people and they should not have complete power over business either.
The world isn't as black and white as libtertarians would like it to be and people are not nearly as honest and noble as they would like them to be either.
That said, Socialists are just as heavy handed in their rhetoric as well and need to realize that not all businesses are inherently evil and looking to constantly screw individuals over.
These black and white ideologies are passe and downright naive. We live in a connected world where national identity is becoming less and less important and the idea of becoming world citizens, both as business entities and private citizens, is becoming more and more important.
"GORE: Well, I will be offering -- I'll be offering my vision when my campaign begins. And it will be comprehensive and sweeping. And I hope that it will be compelling enough to draw people toward it. I feel that it will be.
But it will emerge from my dialogue with the American people. I've traveled to every part of this country during the last six years. During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system."
What he MEANT was that he helped promote legislation that would build infrastructure to allow for greater growth and popularization of the Internet as a communication/educational tool and a global marketplace. Just like Reagan and Bush The First didn't actually tear down the Berlin Wall themselves though they kind of sound like it when they talk(ed) about it.
Give the guy a little slack for a poor choice of words on a live television program.
That's a great idea! Get all the Linux/OSS people to go buy crap at Hot Topic! That will definitely scare away the mallrats who buy their "alternagear" there! Nothing scarier to image obsessed teens than people in their 20's and 30's buying the same stuff they are!
Just the other day I saw the single most ridiculous image. Some teenage kid wearing goth makeup, a misfits t-shirt, a bunch of studded leather and carrying an Invader Zim lunchbox.
The mixture of punk, goth, new wave, metal and cartoon fandom was almost too much for me to handle. When I was a teen, it was such an effort just to keep my eyes peeled open in class let alone go to the ridiculous effort some kids do these days (and even back in my day) just to project a "screw you parental units" image.
The metalheads and "grunge" era guys had it right. Jeans. t-shirt. Flannel. Jacket of some sort. Boots or sneakers. Hassle free.
I was too young to go to a Misfits show, but I did get to see the Ramones a handful of times and Slayer numerous times.
My Ramones t-shirts are long dead. Never owned a misfits shirt and personally just never dug the Slayer shirts. Now the Metallica t-shirts designed by Pushead on the Justice tour. Those were pretty damn cool.
All I'm saying about the availability of these shirts in Hot Topic is that it gives kids who desperately want cred with certain (stereotypical) groups without them having to actually go to the shows or really even understand what the music is about.
I see so many kids wearing Misfits shirts and they weren't even alive when Metallica made them popular well after the band had broken up. Hey it's their money and they can spend it however they want, but trust me... the true hessians and punks (if any true punks still exist) will be laughing their asses off at the kid with the brand new Misfits shirt.
I laugh my ass off at this and when I see wannabe hippies in ragged tie dyes with $150 Birkenstocks.
Hot Topic and it's ilk are just marketing to kids with low self esteem and a need to feel included by an outsider group to piss off mommy and daddy.
If they really want to piss off mommy and daddy they'd sneak out, go to the shows and buy their shirts there and maybe set foot in a mosh pit and get roughed up a bit. (How I managed to do this and get straight A's is beyond me)
I'll stick to my plain t-shirts, jeans and flannels thank you very much. I prefer comfort and warmth over needing to say "I LIKE THIS BAND! PLEASE LABEL ME ACCORDINGLY! I'M EDGY!"
p.s. The last concert t-shirt I owned was from a Ramones show in 1989. After many years it became my laundry day shirt and it finally fell apart in the dryer in 2007. Talk about a well made friggin shirt!
He never actually claimed to invent the internet, but rather clumsily said that he sponsored legislation and economic incentives to bolster the internet as a communication tool and marketplace.
His clumsy wording is what everyone gloms onto and misinterprets as him claiming to have invented the internet.
It's also where posers go to buy Slayer, Misfits and Ramones t-shirts. Much safer to go to the mall than risk life and limb wading through the crowds at a Slayer show.
Naw, Ellefson was always a huge part of the songwriting and sound for the band. If it was never a songwriting partnership to some extent Ellefson would have left long before he did.
He kinda wasted Marty Friedman in a way, but Friedman was always a buttrocker at heart, so it's not a real loss. He could outshred Mustaine in a heartbeat anyway. Just listen to Cacophony.
But then again, shredding isn't everything. I'll take David Gilmore over Mustaine any day or Robert Fripp or Adrian Belew or Buckethead... who can outshred just about any living human being.
Megadeth became the anti-Metallica not so much because their music was any better at the same time, but rather because they simply weren't Metallica. Luckily we had Pantera and Sepultura and Prong who were writing much more interesting metal than either Megadeth or Metallica were at the time.
Yes, Steve Jobs is evil. He eats babies and strangles kittens for fun. He destroys other companies because he enjoys watching the suffering of others.
Steve Jobs didn't destroy those companies. He bought back their OS X licenses so that Apple could survive. Spindler/Amelio almost destroyed Apple with their confusing product matrices, botched OS upgrade plans and a self defeating clone program.
If Jobs didn't do what he did, Apple would still be losing money in the billions and there would be no OS X or iPod or iPhone or Macintosh unless they were gobbled up by Sony or Sun or something like that.
Jobs wasn't out to destroy anything. He just wanted to save the company he founded and bring it back to profitability. And by that standard, he's done an amazing job.
Enough with the "destruction" and "evil Machiavellian plot" rhetoric. They want to make cool stuff and make money doing so. I hardly find that evil or really even manipulative. They're just doing what a business does.
Until they start breaking laws, attain monopoly power and abuse it... tone down the rhetoric. It just doesn't work.
Yeah, the Umax and PowerComputing machines were actually faster and less expensive than the Macs available at the time.
I had a Umax. Man! It was zippy for the time, but it was far more accident prone than the actual Macs I used at work. I won't even go into what my friend with a PowerComputing went through with his rig.
For the increased horsepower that these clones had, I typically would lose more time due to them being down than I would through the slightly slower Macintosh I was using at work.
Their OS accounts for a very small percentage of OS's used in the world. They are however one of the larger computer manufacturers in the market... especially when it comes to laptops.
So are you saying that Mac users aren't consumers? Hmmm. I've dropped a lot of money into Apple's coffers over the years. I sure do feel like a consumer.
$1 billion profit for the last quarter? I'm sure the shareholders are furious.
Oooooo! I forgot something. If you think "Cheaping out" is a big boy phrase... ouch. Back to remedial English for you.
What would cause that? I'm certainly not vouching for PyStar (I'll admit I'm clueless about their quality), but is there any iota of a hint of a suggestion that the machine might possibly be less reliable than Apple's machines? Did you run a Pystar and an Apple next to each other and learn that one brand works better than the other? Has anyone?
Yeah, people are reporting that it kind of runs OS X, but not nearly as well as other homebrewed x86 Macs and certainly not as well as a Mac from Apple.
The reports on these things are popping up all over the place now and the reports are not all that good. No support for software update, loud as hell, etc.
Yes, it runs OS X. That much can be said.
And, just maybe, have any of you pompous fuckers stopped to consider that the people buying Psystar's might not be looking to do exactly what you do?
Sheesh. I try to make my case (not as well as I would have liked to) for why this won't see the light of day in a serious work environment and that makes me a fanboy and a pompous fucker.
Seriously. I tried to make a serious point and you come in and try to validate your ego (not your argument) by making personal insults. Bravo! You make YOUR point VERY well.
Take a class in debate and writing and semantics and maybe a class in etiquette and come back when you want to discuss things with the adults.
First rule: Attack the argument and not the person. You'll get much farther in life doing this.
Sorry for being hypothetical and exaggerating a little.
So my FCP system which is supported by Apple, Aja, Adobe and several other 3rd party vendors is going to get much needed technical support IF it goes down. That has only happened once in the last year of almost constant 40 hours of work per week.
When it did go down, we had Apple and Aja people on the phone within minutes and had the machine back up and running at full speed within an hour.
Now, let's say I get the Psystar, which, by all reports runs OS X not very well. If I have a problem with it and I call them and Aja for support, how much luck do you think I am going to have? The Aja card wouldn't be supported by Aja on a Psystar, so we have to resort to using message boards and other less than expedient methods to troubleshoot our problem.
Yes, half of my time as downtime is an exaggeration, but this machine WILL be down more often and won't have the support I need so troubleshooting will take longer, lots longer resulting in more unnecessary downtime.
The Apple machine with it's higher price tag brings with it a promise of greater stability, support and return on investment. I never said my Mac doesn't suck profits when it's down, but I guarantee you that these PsyStar machines are not up for the tasks I need it to accomplish and would be down far more frequently than my MacPro.
You aren't going to see PsyStars popping up in video post houses or big design firms any time soon because of the inherent lack of support you'll get.
My point is that development of the OS X desktop/finder/UI hasn't stopped. The tone of your post suggests that all they had to do to revamp NextStep into OS X was add a compatibility layer and twiddle some pixels.
I'm just trying to put some perspective on what I thought was an overly simplified view of what OS X is.
Getting reserved characters to work in file names was a huge undertaking. I remember reading articles in 1999 about what a Herculean task it was to make OS X behave like Windows and Mac OS 9 when it came to simply naming and managing files.
Most people really want to put &!@#$%^*() in their file names for some reason and with NextStep that was a big no no. This is a usability issue and one Apple worked really hard to overcome with OS X. So it wasn't simply slapping on some pretty pixels and a compatibility layer and moving the Dock around. (I move it to the left, btw)
So, I'm not trying to argue, I think you're just oversimplifying how big the reworking on NextStep to OS X really was.
And who started Next? Oh yeah... Steve Jobs! He placed a priority on Usability even then and he is still pushing usability as a foremost feature of the OS.
They bought Next for a reason and that was that they knew they could take an extensible architecture and make it work in a way that Apple customers had come to expect.
They also got Jobs back in the deal which sweetened the pot.
All I'm trying to say is that people who think that Mac OS X is "just a beautified version of BSD/NextStep" are way off base and that Apple has put a fair amount of effort into creating a useful, intuitive and unobtrusive computing environment.
Yeah, I cut film, yes actual film, and have moved through the digital age as well. The most important thing for me is system stability and asset management... at least with my current FCP system I have stability. Asset management requires the cooperation of my co-workers, so I'm in deep doodoo there.
And these days Avid needs to stay light on their feet. We have an Avid system here at work that hasn't been used in over 2 years, but both our FCP suites are booked upwards of 40 hours every single week.
Emo? Come on. What are you? 18? Obviously not if you worked on a Fairlight and Amiga system. Wasn't "emo" the teen-alternapop flavor of the month a few years back?
The Mac Pro's price is really close to where it should be.
One day of editing in my Final Cut suite has paid my salary for the day AND a large chunk of the initial investment in the system itself.
One week of 8 hours a day billable work and that machine has already paid for itself several times over.
The PsyStar? Probably going to have massive down time which eats into my hourly billing rates, so I might get 4 billable hours per day as opposed to 7 or 8.
Our clients pay big money to make sure our systems are up and running when they come in to edit their pieces. The more up time we have, the more money we make. The initial capital outlay for the PsyStar is less, but when you're doing video or serious graphics work, every billable hour counts and with an unsupported system, you are literally eating into your profits.
Getting work done reliably makes money. Cheaping out up front to save a few bucks will ultimately cost you far more money in the long run.
Yeah, try capturing ProRes 422 or DVCProHD encoded video to a USB 2 drive and tell me how fast it is.
Try capturing the same footage to a FireWire 400 drive. It actually works, but you should be using FireWire 800 when capturing those formats anyway... at the very least.
Even capturing DV/DVCPro NTSC video to USB 2.0 is a risky endeavor. Dropped frames galore!
USB 2 is great for storing images, audio, and work documents but for anything that requires dedicated bandwidth, you can't count on it.
Yeeeeeeah.... uh. A lot more went into it than "changing the bitmaps". I don't think you understand the great lengths Apple goes to to make working on the computer "not a chore". It's not just about making things pretty, but about making a seamless experience where the computer becomes a working environment and you don't have to think about what's going on behind the scenes.
An environment where you can just get stuff done.
I know that doesn't appeal to the FOSS crowd, but remember, you guys are a vast minority of computer users. Granted, a very important and overly vocal minority, but a minority nonetheless.
The vast majority of us just want to get stuff done.
Wow, what an oversimplification of what the "dekstop" is. The Mac's Finder is a very useful app in and of itself. Yes, things like multiple desktops have been available elsewhere before Leopard, but the Finder and the UI make for a very USEFUL session in front of the computer.
The computer recedes away and you have a space to work. Unlike Windows or most other desktops that seem to constantly remind you of the computer. Of course you can get your work done. Millions do every day, but the experience of it is far less refined and transparent.
When using a tool, the experience should be transparent. When I'm editing video, I really need to NOT think about the tools I'm using and just edit the video. Accessing and using the tools should be a rote action, reflex. If I have to think about the tools, it slows me down and puts me in left brain mode which is counterproductive to the process of editing which is a right brain activity.
Navigating through directories, managing files, finding commands in a menu, should be as seamless and transparent as possible. The Mac OS Finder has always striven to achieve that goal. The fact that it's "bubbly" adds to the effect, making using the computer a less technical event.
(Finding commands in a menu... ugh. More people really need to learn their keyboard commands but you know what I mean.)
So again, how Aqua looks is just one element of what the Mac OS Finder is and it's not just bolted on to make things pretty. It's designed that way to abstract the computer and make it more of a work environment that you don't have to consciously think about all the time.
I don't think anyone is saying that the government was THE KEY to the internet taking off. It did play a role though and not necessarily a negative one either.
If you think private industry would have done a better job and would have done anything to make it the least bit open, you're living in a dream world. Private enterprise is about maximizing profit and value for shareholders. End of story. If it weren't for governmental oversight, we would have had child labor and slavery far longer than we did.
True Laissez-faire free market economics is a utopian idea... just as is the ideal of Greek style democracy and marxist style communism.
The US government/society is a mish mash of democratic/socialist/federalist/capitalist ideas and practices. Not a single one of those political concepts can work as defined in a society as large as ours.
The very fact that businesses are run by individuals and groups of individuals with desires for wealth, power and satisfying their own sense of self importance guarantees that business is not capable of running itself with no oversight whatsoever.
That said, government is populated with the same type of people and they should not have complete power over business either.
The world isn't as black and white as libtertarians would like it to be and people are not nearly as honest and noble as they would like them to be either.
That said, Socialists are just as heavy handed in their rhetoric as well and need to realize that not all businesses are inherently evil and looking to constantly screw individuals over.
These black and white ideologies are passe and downright naive. We live in a connected world where national identity is becoming less and less important and the idea of becoming world citizens, both as business entities and private citizens, is becoming more and more important.
"GORE: Well, I will be offering -- I'll be offering my vision when my campaign begins. And it will be comprehensive and sweeping. And I hope that it will be compelling enough to draw people toward it. I feel that it will be.
But it will emerge from my dialogue with the American people. I've traveled to every part of this country during the last six years. During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system."
What he MEANT was that he helped promote legislation that would build infrastructure to allow for greater growth and popularization of the Internet as a communication/educational tool and a global marketplace. Just like Reagan and Bush The First didn't actually tear down the Berlin Wall themselves though they kind of sound like it when they talk(ed) about it.
Give the guy a little slack for a poor choice of words on a live television program.
That's a great idea! Get all the Linux/OSS people to go buy crap at Hot Topic! That will definitely scare away the mallrats who buy their "alternagear" there! Nothing scarier to image obsessed teens than people in their 20's and 30's buying the same stuff they are!
Just the other day I saw the single most ridiculous image. Some teenage kid wearing goth makeup, a misfits t-shirt, a bunch of studded leather and carrying an Invader Zim lunchbox.
The mixture of punk, goth, new wave, metal and cartoon fandom was almost too much for me to handle. When I was a teen, it was such an effort just to keep my eyes peeled open in class let alone go to the ridiculous effort some kids do these days (and even back in my day) just to project a "screw you parental units" image.
The metalheads and "grunge" era guys had it right. Jeans. t-shirt. Flannel. Jacket of some sort. Boots or sneakers. Hassle free.
I prefer Global Interweb.
Does life begin at birth or conception is how I read this post.
/. ?
Do we really want to go there on
TOTAL RANT: you have been warned
I was too young to go to a Misfits show, but I did get to see the Ramones a handful of times and Slayer numerous times.
My Ramones t-shirts are long dead. Never owned a misfits shirt and personally just never dug the Slayer shirts. Now the Metallica t-shirts designed by Pushead on the Justice tour. Those were pretty damn cool.
All I'm saying about the availability of these shirts in Hot Topic is that it gives kids who desperately want cred with certain (stereotypical) groups without them having to actually go to the shows or really even understand what the music is about.
I see so many kids wearing Misfits shirts and they weren't even alive when Metallica made them popular well after the band had broken up. Hey it's their money and they can spend it however they want, but trust me... the true hessians and punks (if any true punks still exist) will be laughing their asses off at the kid with the brand new Misfits shirt.
I laugh my ass off at this and when I see wannabe hippies in ragged tie dyes with $150 Birkenstocks.
Hot Topic and it's ilk are just marketing to kids with low self esteem and a need to feel included by an outsider group to piss off mommy and daddy.
If they really want to piss off mommy and daddy they'd sneak out, go to the shows and buy their shirts there and maybe set foot in a mosh pit and get roughed up a bit. (How I managed to do this and get straight A's is beyond me)
I'll stick to my plain t-shirts, jeans and flannels thank you very much. I prefer comfort and warmth over needing to say "I LIKE THIS BAND! PLEASE LABEL ME ACCORDINGLY! I'M EDGY!"
p.s. The last concert t-shirt I owned was from a Ramones show in 1989. After many years it became my laundry day shirt and it finally fell apart in the dryer in 2007. Talk about a well made friggin shirt!
http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp
He never actually claimed to invent the internet, but rather clumsily said that he sponsored legislation and economic incentives to bolster the internet as a communication tool and marketplace.
His clumsy wording is what everyone gloms onto and misinterprets as him claiming to have invented the internet.
It's also where posers go to buy Slayer, Misfits and Ramones t-shirts. Much safer to go to the mall than risk life and limb wading through the crowds at a Slayer show.
True, but for desktops, I do not see them abandoning Intel so soon after the transition.
Naw, Ellefson was always a huge part of the songwriting and sound for the band. If it was never a songwriting partnership to some extent Ellefson would have left long before he did.
He kinda wasted Marty Friedman in a way, but Friedman was always a buttrocker at heart, so it's not a real loss. He could outshred Mustaine in a heartbeat anyway. Just listen to Cacophony.
But then again, shredding isn't everything. I'll take David Gilmore over Mustaine any day or Robert Fripp or Adrian Belew or Buckethead... who can outshred just about any living human being.
Megadeth became the anti-Metallica not so much because their music was any better at the same time, but rather because they simply weren't Metallica. Luckily we had Pantera and Sepultura and Prong who were writing much more interesting metal than either Megadeth or Metallica were at the time.
Yes, Steve Jobs is evil. He eats babies and strangles kittens for fun. He destroys other companies because he enjoys watching the suffering of others.
Steve Jobs didn't destroy those companies. He bought back their OS X licenses so that Apple could survive. Spindler/Amelio almost destroyed Apple with their confusing product matrices, botched OS upgrade plans and a self defeating clone program.
If Jobs didn't do what he did, Apple would still be losing money in the billions and there would be no OS X or iPod or iPhone or Macintosh unless they were gobbled up by Sony or Sun or something like that.
Jobs wasn't out to destroy anything. He just wanted to save the company he founded and bring it back to profitability. And by that standard, he's done an amazing job.
Enough with the "destruction" and "evil Machiavellian plot" rhetoric. They want to make cool stuff and make money doing so. I hardly find that evil or really even manipulative. They're just doing what a business does.
Until they start breaking laws, attain monopoly power and abuse it... tone down the rhetoric. It just doesn't work.
Yeah, the Umax and PowerComputing machines were actually faster and less expensive than the Macs available at the time.
I had a Umax. Man! It was zippy for the time, but it was far more accident prone than the actual Macs I used at work. I won't even go into what my friend with a PowerComputing went through with his rig.
For the increased horsepower that these clones had, I typically would lose more time due to them being down than I would through the slightly slower Macintosh I was using at work.
Their OS accounts for a very small percentage of OS's used in the world. They are however one of the larger computer manufacturers in the market... especially when it comes to laptops.
So are you saying that Mac users aren't consumers? Hmmm. I've dropped a lot of money into Apple's coffers over the years. I sure do feel like a consumer.
$1 billion profit for the last quarter? I'm sure the shareholders are furious.
Price and value! A very nice distinction.