It doesn't matter - because he's not staying in the UK - he's staying in the *equadorian embassy* which means hes actually on the soverign state soil of *equador* who has aggreed to offer him protection by letting him stay *in equador*.
For 'really similar' to twm - I'd suggest mwm or fvwm for 'generally lightweight and non-tiling', I'd suggest windowmaker - and you can always run it in tandem with your favorite 'desktop' / 'file manager' application with a bit of tweaking..
I run windowmaker with xfdesktop/thunar in a dockapp - lets me 'gui desktop' when I want to, but 'window manage' otherwise.. side note - I'm not a fan of tiling managers, for whatever that's worth.
" Version 0.95.5 released Window Maker 0.95.5 was released on August 29th 2013. "
took about 2 seconds to google that..
That being said, still doesn't have compositing support. That being said, I agree - because of it's superior window managment as compared to anything else, I could care less.
I'm sure patches are welcome if anyone wants to code them.
Run XFCE from within windowmaker... and 'dock' 'xfdesktop' and 'thunar' to your dock.. this yields in super awesome application/window managment (from windowmaker) with a 'hidable' desktop-paradigm and good file manager from xfce
How dare snowden release this information! This is a breach of trust and puts the national security at risk! These people are not reporters or whistleblowers, but traitors, and should be tried in a military court!
apache, vnc, ssh, mysql, gimp (yes I know its not photoshop - but please show me a competing 'free' editor?), inkscape, dia,.... etc etc etc are all good programs
The BSD's want their compiler back, so they can have a fully BSD system, as they once essentially had in the early eighties before AT&T was permitted to compete in the computing sphere and decided to sue UCB
Also - this entire mechanism of sharing code dates back to the dawn of code itself - the GPL was a reaction to RMS's bad experiences when people decided to be jerks about it - which itself was when money *started* being introduce w/r/t software licensing.. previously to that era (before the 70s-80s) 'computer' money came mostly from hardware/OS/compiler combinantions and support, and people (e.g. businesses - because 'people' didn't own computers) hired their own developers for applications themselves
You do not have to develop software for free. You can ask to be paid for the time you spend developing software. You could use something like a Kickstarter. If you made software and are now just selling it and didn't do any of the other two, you could sell services (such as support), physical items (discs), or ask people to donate.
significantly contradict this:
And he thinks you should only receive enough pay to scrape by selling consulting services for the software that you wrote for free.
or is it that you don't like what the OP said, and so you call him a straw-man-caller thereby yourself resorting to a straw man?
IMHO Its also an *actually* superior compiler, because it uses a non-GPL license -
If you note the subtext in RMS's note and elsewhere, the only time anyone chooses a non-GPL license is because of 'technical' reasons... despite the fact that there are some very passionate people in the BSD-style camp who care just as much for software freedom - but think that the GPL is an incorrect means to achieve it.
(see also: http://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html#39 )
Personally I agree, since it forces the economic hand of the committed open-source developer by essentially requiring him/her to seek employment elsewhere thereby reducing the amount of time that a developer can work on publically-useful software, and strenghening the non-free ecosystem - if I hit it big with unuseful-but-proprietary app #1, and can spend time doing OSS code - I would.. this is not a possible scenario in the GPL world - since the only means to deriving income in a GPL-pure environment is by volunteering of labor and time (e.g. system maintenance, customization, etc)
Probably for the same reason that noone makes a rival to:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/funambol/ and other AGPL software which requires code signover to get a commit bit..
that spinning up a rival project with insufficient resources based on a fork is cost / time / resource and mind-share prohibitive..
but hey, funambol is 'free software' right.. just try to make your own competing cloud storage company based on their 'open code' - you cant.. so they have an effective monopoly of this type of application commercially, yet while maintaining strict 'GNU' 'freedom' standards..
software doesn't exist in a vaccum - although if you're paycheck has come from a university your entire life and you've never had to work to earn a dime for yourself you might think otherwise and thusly pontificate.. (cough RMS)
plus, in the GPL case you mention, this is a n00b jerk move and everyone will think you're a weenie, and they would be correct.
OpenBSD is not a company - so a 'marketing guy' is superfluous - and there is absolutely 0% chance of them ever taking over 'like Money Tribbles' and there is no 'storehouse of value' except for keeping the project going
cheers for the math - plus a couple things to remember:
1) These are mostly *build* machines - so they are frequently operating near the top end of their energy consumption and generating the top end of heat 2) some of these are pretty old / less power efficient machines, and there are a few disk arrays in there as well, which brings them more into the 800-1200w range
easily
Google is not legally required to have data integrity, to care about your data, or to have any concern for a system or application crash, and their applications, when crashing, don't affect anyone in a 'real' way (e.g. losing peoples entire savings, having them die, etc) other than whiny users until they can fix the issue or spin the loss of user data in the press.
Just because Teh Googz is doing it, doesn't mean it's the right technology for all applications.
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It doesn't matter - because he's not staying in the UK - he's staying in the *equadorian embassy* which means hes actually on the soverign state soil of *equador* who has aggreed to offer him protection by letting him stay *in equador*.
For 'really similar' to twm - I'd suggest mwm or fvwm
for 'generally lightweight and non-tiling', I'd suggest windowmaker - and you can always run it in tandem with your favorite 'desktop' / 'file manager' application
with a bit of tweaking..
I run windowmaker with xfdesktop/thunar in a dockapp - lets me 'gui desktop' when I want to, but 'window manage' otherwise..
side note - I'm not a fan of tiling managers, for whatever that's worth.
http://windowmaker.org/news.php
"
Version 0.95.5 released
Window Maker 0.95.5 was released on August 29th 2013.
"
took about 2 seconds to google that..
That being said, still doesn't have compositing support.
That being said, I agree - because of it's superior window managment as compared to anything else, I could care less.
I'm sure patches are welcome if anyone wants to code them.
Run XFCE from within windowmaker... and 'dock' 'xfdesktop' and 'thunar' to your dock..
this yields in super awesome application/window managment (from windowmaker)
with a 'hidable' desktop-paradigm and good file manager from xfce
$ cat ~/.xinitrc /bin/sh
#!
export PATH="/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/games";
export PATH="$PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin";
export PATH="$PATH:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin";
export PATH="$PATH:$HOME/local/bin";
export TZ=CST6CDT;
export PAGER=less;
xset b off;
xset m 2 1;
xset dpms 600 600 600;
xrdb ~/.Xdefaults;
eval `dbus-launch --sh-syntax`; sleep 1; /usr/local/bin/xfsettingsd; sleep 1;
exec /usr/local/bin/wmaker
$
... which is also remarkably similar to the NeXT 'dock'/'clip' - only a more dumbed down and less useful version (to match user base)
How dare snowden release this information! This is a breach of trust and puts the national security at risk!
These people are not reporters or whistleblowers, but traitors, and should be tried in a military court!
erm... oh.. right.
> This is the sort of thing that makes me wish the GOP luck in blocking Obama's appointments.
Yes.. because they have such a Grand Old Track record on these kinds of things.. ha
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush%27s_second_term_as_President_of_the_United_States#National_security_and_presidential_power_controversies
Really? Pretty sure you're trolling.. because this is not really an explanation:
This algorithm typically results in the following:
An increase in the inter-character spacing added between non-ideographic and/or number characters and certain full-width characters
No inter-character spacing between non-ideographic and/or number characters and certain half-width characters
*Typically* results?
*Increase* in character spacing? how much increase?
*Certain* full/half width characters? Which ones?
apache, vnc, ssh, mysql, gimp (yes I know its not photoshop - but please show me a competing 'free' editor?), inkscape, dia, .... etc etc etc
are all good programs
Q: Why do we assume humanity is not so limited?
A: Because strict materialists are equivelent to narcissistic athiest fundamentalists?
Well, that would be a completely fascinating point if it wasn't COMPLETELY WRONG:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkeley_Software_Distribution#History
The BSD's want their compiler back, so they can have a fully BSD system,
as they once essentially had in the early eighties before AT&T was permitted to compete in the computing sphere and decided to sue UCB
Also - this entire mechanism of sharing code dates back to the dawn of code itself -
the GPL was a reaction to RMS's bad experiences when people decided to be jerks about it -
which itself was when money *started* being introduce w/r/t software licensing..
previously to that era (before the 70s-80s) 'computer' money came mostly from hardware/OS/compiler combinantions and support,
and people (e.g. businesses - because 'people' didn't own computers) hired their own developers for applications themselves
how does this:
You do not have to develop software for free. You can ask to be paid for the time you spend developing software. You could use something like a Kickstarter. If you made software and are now just selling it and didn't do any of the other two, you could sell services (such as support), physical items (discs), or ask people to donate.
significantly contradict this:
And he thinks you should only receive enough pay to scrape by selling consulting services for the software that you wrote for free.
or is it that you don't like what the OP said, and so you call him a straw-man-caller thereby yourself resorting to a straw man?
IMHO Its also an *actually* superior compiler, because it uses a non-GPL license -
If you note the subtext in RMS's note and elsewhere,
the only time anyone chooses a non-GPL license is because of 'technical' reasons...
despite the fact that there are some very passionate people in the BSD-style camp who care just as much for software freedom -
but think that the GPL is an incorrect means to achieve it.
(see also: http://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html#39 )
Personally I agree, since it forces the economic hand of the committed open-source developer by essentially requiring him/her to seek employment elsewhere
thereby reducing the amount of time that a developer can work on publically-useful software, and strenghening the non-free ecosystem - if I hit it big
with unuseful-but-proprietary app #1, and can spend time doing OSS code - I would.. this is not a possible scenario in the GPL world - since the only
means to deriving income in a GPL-pure environment is by volunteering of labor and time (e.g. system maintenance, customization, etc)
Who is actively pushing their kernel changes back into the mainline kernel? and contributing to LLVM development?
Yes, I think OP did.
Probably for the same reason that noone makes a rival to:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/funambol/ and other AGPL software which requires code signover to get a commit bit..
that spinning up a rival project with insufficient resources based on a fork is cost / time / resource and mind-share prohibitive..
but hey, funambol is 'free software' right.. just try to make your own competing cloud storage company based on their 'open code' -
you cant.. so they have an effective monopoly of this type of application commercially, yet while maintaining strict 'GNU' 'freedom'
standards..
software doesn't exist in a vaccum - although if you're paycheck has come from a university your entire life and you've never had
to work to earn a dime for yourself you might think otherwise and thusly pontificate.. (cough RMS)
plus, in the GPL case you mention, this is a n00b jerk move and everyone will think you're a weenie, and they would be correct.
Umm...
OpenBSD is not a company - so a 'marketing guy' is superfluous -
and there is absolutely 0% chance of them ever taking over 'like Money Tribbles'
and there is no 'storehouse of value' except for keeping the project going
cheers for the math - plus a couple things to remember:
1) These are mostly *build* machines - so they are frequently operating near the top end of their energy consumption and generating the top end of heat
2) some of these are pretty old / less power efficient machines, and there are a few disk arrays in there as well, which brings them more into the 800-1200w range
easily
FreeBSD's pf still came from OpenBSD...
Hmm... I think they came from CHICAGO and GENEVA and AUSTRIA:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supply-side_economics
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Trade_Organization
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_school_%28economics%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austrian_School
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Free_Trade_Agreement
riight.. because all software test cases cover all scenarios every time
Google is not legally required to have data integrity, to care about your data, or to have any concern for a system or application crash,
and their applications, when crashing, don't affect anyone in a 'real' way (e.g. losing peoples entire savings, having them die, etc)
other than whiny users until they can fix the issue or spin the loss of user data in the press.
Just because Teh Googz is doing it, doesn't mean it's the right technology for all applications.
DURR
Your whole argument presumes that said fingerprinting, scanning, etc. is justified itself..
DURR
Is VisualBasic better than VisualNodeJSDevStudioWithIPTablesAndAppStoreSupportPlugin2014?
lol
Indeed:
Newsflash: Greedy Patent Troll Developer Hires Unscrupulous Lawyers to Sue!
I fail to see how this is any different..
Yea - except for this bit of BS false dichotomy:
" ... MUD had a text-based interface, but *despite that* ...
"
OMG It's like games are more than their user interface!
OMG It's like we shouldn't equate technological sophistication with Teh Shinies!