If you have a fast connection and a fast computer, all will be installed in about an hour. If you'd run Mandrake, you can simply use "urpmi mplayer" and "urpmi gstreamer" and all will be fine. If you have enough bandwidth it will be installed very soon. You probably haven't touched an rpm based distro in 2 years. There are solutions for the dependency problems in rpm. I never used Gentoo, but what I heard is that whenever you install a new version of a library or application, it still leaves the old versions installed. That's a way to "solve" dependencies, but to me that sounds like a Microsoft solution:-) If you really think that a source based distro doesn't have dependencies, try removing/lib/libc6.so.0
Yes, I prefer the commandline mplayer too. If I want gui, I refuse to use xine, and mplayer isn't much better. Totem and Kxine are good frontends though. Both are xine frontends. There's also Kmplayer which seems usable, but I haven't used it yet.
Multimedia on Linux has caught up quite good, at least for playing. Now all we need are a few good video editors:-)
You're not very clear on what hardware you have. If you have fast enough hardware you can do software compression in realtime. Use something like transcode or mjpegtools. I used transcode with ffmpeg plugins a few times. These software packages can do mpeg2, maybe also mpeg4, though I'm not sure of that. They can do xvid and divx, if you're satisfied with that as mpeg4 alternative. But if it's a lot of data, you need a lot of cpu power. It depends on the resolution and so... A hardware encoder might suit you better then. Afaik there are only mpeg1 and mpeg2 encoders, even secondhand and cheap. I wonder if there are mpeg4 hardware encoders on the market.
Yes, I believe that was up till now the first and only Mandrake release for Itanium. They are now working on an IA-64 version, probably of 9.0 or 9.1. I assume the market just isn't there to make it profitable to release that often. For ppc they released a 8.2 version, and a 9.1 is in the make, and I assume ppc has a rather big marketshare compared to Itanium and IA-64.
No, they release 2 new version every year. One in uatumn, around September/October, and one in spring, around April. They don't want to speed it up more, they'd rather slow it down to once a year. Half a year is very short to break something (add features) and fix it again, for example with upgrading their drakxtools and installer to Gtk2.
Heh, I didn't even get an error message in Konqueror. If I'd use Netscape I would have been redirected to http://www.quantum.com/browser_sitemap_page.html With IE I would have gone to http://www.quantum.com/AM/default.htm (notice the.htm:-) ) Both pages render fine in Konqueror though...
IANAL, but the OEM is representing Microsoft, so in a way Microsoft is breaching the agreement. I assume it would then be common sense to complain at Microsoft, if they don't call back the OEM I guess you can call it breach of contract.
This sounds like the same thing that tcptraceroute does. It sends a tcp/ip packet to an open port and receives an icmp packet as reply. From that it builds the traceroute, even with the hosts behind a firewall.
If the router of your ISP would drop every packet that doesn't come from your ipadress, I should be safe.
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I have seen him answering this question a few times. He said he was quite happy about it. He contributed just a bit to the Linux kernel, but he got the rest of it for free. He accepted that as rather good payment. So unless he has changed that view, I'm not really interested in an answer to your question. And I also wonder if he'd care for a Paypalled website, allthough, you never know:-)
what linux needs is a universal way of configuring a linux system so that you can pick any disto you want without worrying about how hard will it be to configure.
If you don't mind, I'd like to say "NO".
I prefer it the way the Linux distro's do it now. Like Mandrake, which even recognises printers, and sets up xawtv for your tvcard during install. These are not kernel issues, but userspace issues. Most distro's ship nowadays with every driver as a module. If the installer detects everything, you should be fine.
There are just a few issues, where it would make sense. I really like the way FreeBSD handles network card drivers. It seems to detect them fine, and load the right driver. I'm not sure how it can be done, but it happens. That's something in kernel-space, and I hope it will get included in Linux too.
There's nothing wrong with "make menuconfig". I find it actually better to navigate then "make xconfig". The problem is that "make config", "make menuconfig" and "make xconfig" each use different methods. Roman Zippel now made a seperate backend and frontend. There's one backend, and there can be several frontends, like "make config", "make menuconfig" and "make xconfig".
The new xconfig uses Qt, but there could just as wel be a Gtk+ frontend, or a Tcl/Tk (ugh) frontend. But from what I read, it seems that the frontend needs to go with the kernel itself. I hope I picked that up wrong, and that it is possible to use a xconfig (Qt) frontend with different kernel versions. That way the backend, and the 2 console frontends can ship with the kernel, and the gui frontends can be shipped by the distributors.
It's not a major problem that he gets infected, it's a major problem that there are no antibiotics left that will kill the bacteria. Every time someone uses an antibiotic to kill bacteria, there's chance that some of them are resistant for that antibiotic. This will create an evolutional process where the surviving bacteria are all resistant to antibiotics. The only way to prevent it is to only use antibiotics when needed.
So the only thing this fellow might have left is to trust on his own defense system to kill the bacteria.
"AbiWord? Nah, we're not going to make KDE bindings for it, no matter how modular it is! We're going to start from scratch".
Nice flame.
Afaik Koffice and Kword are older then Abiword. In June 1999 it did come with Suse 6.1 for kde1. I'm not sure how old the project was then.
I just checked an Abiword mirror, where the 0.7 release is from December 2000. There weren't earlier versions on the mirror, but it seems to me that Abiword was started after Koffice, or at least around the same time.
Sometimes you can unpack the files in an rpm, put them wherever you want, and it works. Sometimes it depends on compile-time options to have the app find its files. Most games have fixed runtime paths to their datafiles for example. Larger projects like kde and gnome also expect to live in certain places.
When I want to unpack a rpm, i use mc (midnight commander) and it's virtual filesystem for rpm. Just click on an rpm, and you''ll browse into it. It will use rpm2cpio, which you can also use yourself to make the rpm into a cpio.
You do have a point, it would be nice to have a utility to add a package to your rpm database. There are a few projects working on that, but it's not a major movement. You could check out checkinstall for example. I myself mostly build my own rpms, if there aren't any available. But for most people, building from source is hard enough, or even too hard. Building an rpm and specfile from source is a bit harder, you have to understand what.configure, make and make install do.
On the other hand, if you choose to install software by hand, from tar.gz, you bypass the rpm system, and become package manager yourself. So it's up to you to remember what's installed, and to know when you can use --nodeps (not --force). It's a bit easier then the way you tell it. First you can do an rpm -Uvh, which will tell you if there are missing dependencies. If you know you have those dependencies fullfilled, you can try again with rpm -Uvh --nodeps, and it will install, and there won't be any unknown dependencies, like you say.
And yes, rpm sucks, so does deb and tgz and source. All in a different way, but none is perfect. Imo it's just the best there is currently for binary based distributions.
Btw, I haven't had a corrupted rpm database in a long time. And if it happened, a backup would fix it within a few minutes.
If Suse uses rpm it doesn't mean right away that they are based on RedHat. If they changed nothing, but only switched from rpm to deb, would that mean they are suddenly Debian based? They started as a Slackware clone, and added rpm along the road. You can still see a lot of Slackware in the startup system. In fact, they are a mix between SysV and BSD, they use an/etc/rc.config script, and they use init scripts. Very confusing to me, but that wasn't the point. The point is, they are based on Slackware, and moved a bit towards RedHat (rpm and SysV).
Ok, saving a file while crashing won't do much good. But on ext2 I had kernelcrashes, and fsck's where lots of files were thrown away, like/usr/lib/libgtk+.so or similar. Actually those files are read by a user process, and I didn't even have write access to it. Still it got thrown away. I'm not sure how ext3 handles this with the different options, but if it works that way i don't really like it.
If you have a fast connection and a fast computer, all will be installed in about an hour. :-) /lib/libc6.so.0
If you'd run Mandrake, you can simply use "urpmi mplayer" and "urpmi gstreamer" and all will be fine. If you have enough bandwidth it will be installed very soon.
You probably haven't touched an rpm based distro in 2 years. There are solutions for the dependency problems in rpm.
I never used Gentoo, but what I heard is that whenever you install a new version of a library or application, it still leaves the old versions installed. That's a way to "solve" dependencies, but to me that sounds like a Microsoft solution
If you really think that a source based distro doesn't have dependencies, try removing
Yes, I prefer the commandline mplayer too.
:-)
If I want gui, I refuse to use xine, and mplayer isn't much better.
Totem and Kxine are good frontends though. Both are xine frontends.
There's also Kmplayer which seems usable, but I haven't used it yet.
Multimedia on Linux has caught up quite good, at least for playing. Now all we need are a few good video editors
You're not very clear on what hardware you have. If you have fast enough hardware you can do software compression in realtime. Use something like transcode or mjpegtools. I used transcode with ffmpeg plugins a few times.
These software packages can do mpeg2, maybe also mpeg4, though I'm not sure of that. They can do xvid and divx, if you're satisfied with that as mpeg4 alternative.
But if it's a lot of data, you need a lot of cpu power. It depends on the resolution and so...
A hardware encoder might suit you better then. Afaik there are only mpeg1 and mpeg2 encoders, even secondhand and cheap. I wonder if there are mpeg4 hardware encoders on the market.
Yes, I believe that was up till now the first and only Mandrake release for Itanium. They are now working on an IA-64 version, probably of 9.0 or 9.1.
I assume the market just isn't there to make it profitable to release that often.
For ppc they released a 8.2 version, and a 9.1 is in the make, and I assume ppc has a rather big marketshare compared to Itanium and IA-64.
No, they release 2 new version every year. One in uatumn, around September/October, and one in spring, around April.
They don't want to speed it up more, they'd rather slow it down to once a year. Half a year is very short to break something (add features) and fix it again, for example with upgrading their drakxtools and installer to Gtk2.
Heh, I didn't even get an error message in Konqueror. If I'd use Netscape I would have been redirected to http://www.quantum.com/browser_sitemap_page.html
With IE I would have gone to http://www.quantum.com/AM/default.htm (notice the .htm :-) )
Both pages render fine in Konqueror though...
From the specfile of Mandrake's rpm for XFree86:w eb.cgi/SPE CS/XFree86/XFree86.spec
http://cvs.mandrakesoft.com/cgi-bin/cvs
%ifarch x86_64
#define XF86CardDrivers mga fbdev vga ati savage nv glint vesa \
DevelDrivers XF86OSCardDrivers XF86ExtraCardDrivers
%endif
And part of the changelog:
* Mon Nov 04 2002 Gwenole Beauchesne 4.2.1-6mdk
- Build more drivers for x86-64
So I guess those drivers have been built for at least a month now in Mandrake's XFree86 rpm on x86-64.
IANAL, but the OEM is representing Microsoft, so in a way Microsoft is breaching the agreement. I assume it would then be common sense to complain at Microsoft, if they don't call back the OEM I guess you can call it breach of contract.
This sounds like the same thing that tcptraceroute does. It sends a tcp/ip packet to an open port and receives an icmp packet as reply. From that it builds the traceroute, even with the hosts behind a firewall.
The focus is on functionality, NOT GUI interface design.
So how do I set up a raid or lvm install on Debian?
If the router of your ISP would drop every packet that doesn't come from your ipadress, I should be safe.
I have seen him answering this question a few times. :-)
He said he was quite happy about it. He contributed just a bit to the Linux kernel, but he got the rest of it for free. He accepted that as rather good payment.
So unless he has changed that view, I'm not really interested in an answer to your question. And I also wonder if he'd care for a Paypalled website, allthough, you never know
Ah, ok. I read that article, but that final conclusion must have slipped my eyes.
what linux needs is a universal way of configuring a linux system so that you can pick any disto you want without worrying about how hard will it be to configure.
If you don't mind, I'd like to say "NO".
I prefer it the way the Linux distro's do it now. Like Mandrake, which even recognises printers, and sets up xawtv for your tvcard during install. These are not kernel issues, but userspace issues. Most distro's ship nowadays with every driver as a module. If the installer detects everything, you should be fine.
There are just a few issues, where it would make sense. I really like the way FreeBSD handles network card drivers. It seems to detect them fine, and load the right driver. I'm not sure how it can be done, but it happens. That's something in kernel-space, and I hope it will get included in Linux too.
There's nothing wrong with "make menuconfig". I find it actually better to navigate then "make xconfig".
The problem is that "make config", "make menuconfig" and "make xconfig" each use different methods. Roman Zippel now made a seperate backend and frontend. There's one backend, and there can be several frontends, like "make config", "make menuconfig" and "make xconfig".
The new xconfig uses Qt, but there could just as wel be a Gtk+ frontend, or a Tcl/Tk (ugh) frontend.
But from what I read, it seems that the frontend needs to go with the kernel itself. I hope I picked that up wrong, and that it is possible to use a xconfig (Qt) frontend with different kernel versions. That way the backend, and the 2 console frontends can ship with the kernel, and the gui frontends can be shipped by the distributors.
It's not a major problem that he gets infected, it's a major problem that there are no antibiotics left that will kill the bacteria.
Every time someone uses an antibiotic to kill bacteria, there's chance that some of them are resistant for that antibiotic. This will create an evolutional process where the surviving bacteria are all resistant to antibiotics. The only way to prevent it is to only use antibiotics when needed.
So the only thing this fellow might have left is to trust on his own defense system to kill the bacteria.
"AbiWord? Nah, we're not going to make KDE bindings for it, no matter how modular it is! We're going to start from scratch".
Nice flame.
Afaik Koffice and Kword are older then Abiword. In June 1999 it did come with Suse 6.1 for kde1. I'm not sure how old the project was then.
I just checked an Abiword mirror, where the 0.7 release is from December 2000. There weren't earlier versions on the mirror, but it seems to me that Abiword was started after Koffice, or at least around the same time.
You might be better of asking this question on the sane mailinglist.
Editors, please look these up - this must be the third or fourth repeated article within the last week
Duh, are you sure you posted under the right topic? I cannot see a duplicate article for the freezing of FreeBSD 4.7 in the BSD section.
Sometimes you can unpack the files in an rpm, put them wherever you want, and it works.
Sometimes it depends on compile-time options to have the app find its files. Most games have fixed runtime paths to their datafiles for example. Larger projects like kde and gnome also expect to live in certain places.
When I want to unpack a rpm, i use mc (midnight commander) and it's virtual filesystem for rpm. Just click on an rpm, and you''ll browse into it. It will use rpm2cpio, which you can also use yourself to make the rpm into a cpio.
You do have a point, it would be nice to have a utility to add a package to your rpm database. There are a few projects working on that, but it's not a major movement. You could check out checkinstall for example. .configure, make and make install do.
I myself mostly build my own rpms, if there aren't any available. But for most people, building from source is hard enough, or even too hard. Building an rpm and specfile from source is a bit harder, you have to understand what
On the other hand, if you choose to install software by hand, from tar.gz, you bypass the rpm system, and become package manager yourself. So it's up to you to remember what's installed, and to know when you can use --nodeps (not --force).
It's a bit easier then the way you tell it. First you can do an rpm -Uvh, which will tell you if there are missing dependencies. If you know you have those dependencies fullfilled, you can try again with rpm -Uvh --nodeps, and it will install, and there won't be any unknown dependencies, like you say.
And yes, rpm sucks, so does deb and tgz and source. All in a different way, but none is perfect.
Imo it's just the best there is currently for binary based distributions.
Btw, I haven't had a corrupted rpm database in a long time. And if it happened, a backup would fix it within a few minutes.
If Suse uses rpm it doesn't mean right away that they are based on RedHat. If they changed nothing, but only switched from rpm to deb, would that mean they are suddenly Debian based? /etc/rc.config script, and they use init scripts. Very confusing to me, but that wasn't the point. The point is, they are based on Slackware, and moved a bit towards RedHat (rpm and SysV).
They started as a Slackware clone, and added rpm along the road. You can still see a lot of Slackware in the startup system. In fact, they are a mix between SysV and BSD, they use an
Thank you for your information.
It gave me a bit more insight into it.
Ok, saving a file while crashing won't do much good. /usr/lib/libgtk+.so or similar.
But on ext2 I had kernelcrashes, and fsck's where lots of files were thrown away, like
Actually those files are read by a user process, and I didn't even have write access to it. Still it got thrown away.
I'm not sure how ext3 handles this with the different options, but if it works that way i don't really like it.
The sad part is it took you longer to type this than to type .
No, not really, I would have to type all
tags, which is quite annoying imo.
And for 10 or 12 lines of text I need to format it by hand.