Cannabis cultivation is worth $7Billion to Cannabis Farmers, $5B in beef for ranchers, wheat a paltry $1.7B, $4.3B for Logging and only oil and gas is more @ $15B.
Drug prohibition is one of the gravest mistakes of Modern Culture.
The same book had a story of a guy who tried to create a hearty tomato plant he could transplant in the early spring by grafting a tomato stalk onto a jimson weed rootstock. It did marvelously and they had nice juicy tomatos at a record early date. They didn't eat many of them, after the first one caused the whole family to hallucinate.
RedHat can't afford to be doing that for products that people download for free.
So they are going to rely on Volunteers to do the work for them? It seems a little dirty that RH has decided that they want to use the community to provide Fedora -- to maintain this 'farmiliarity' -- but not do it in house.
People (companies really) should not start to count on the good-will of a favourable public. What will RH do when people discontinue wanting to work for RH without pay? Wont they just move to another More Libre distro?
There are converters from.DWG to ??? for Quake maps, i remember thinking i should do that to entertain my coworkers.. but alas, another interesting project i cant possibly have the time to do.
What does "Series 90" mean? What are the different Series? What does it mean if a model is of the same Series as another?
I *just* bought a 3300, love it -- BUT it has no accompanying sofware suite (contrary to salesperson (never make impulse decision, why this time.. oh well)). I am looking for apps for the unit so I can *not* carry my E100 for simple notes / pword lists etc. How do I know what software runs on my model -- all from the Same Series? how do i identify the series of a model?
But don't give me sanctimonius crud about there being something wrong with the market because I want just want inexpensive apples.
Dont give me sanctimonius crud about your wanting highways and biways to move stuff... or complain when I demand clean air, lower taxes for health spending from pollution/accidents/obesity, lower taxes to stop sprawl. etc etc -- its *not* about crazy attachments to nature -- but as the article describes, it is about the insane over-consumption our present culture. "Inexpensive" in todays economy is a broken idea -- look at the subsidy your 'transported apple' gets so many regards... this is *not* an inexepensive apple.
Our new Premier says he will hold a referendum on Proportional Representation. That is a start. After that, we kill First Past The Post voting with some other sane method.
Here's a question for you: what cost-effective and economically-viable alternative method do you propose for providing the people of Ontario with apples?
Well good question. I live in a city. So, I would probably petition the planting of an apple tree in my neighbourhood garden... oh, there is no basic foods co-operative program in my city?
So, I would plant an apple tree in my yard and trade apples for peaches with my neighbour. I havnt any land as I live in a highrise?
I would goto the local Farmer's Retail Markets and come home with a basket of apples. No Farmer Owned Retail market?
I would phone the local farmers assocaition and ask who raises apples. I would find out to whom he sells them, and go there. The only buyer is regional food-terminal? That ships his produce far away to who-knows? Sorry, no sale.
I buy peaches (see above).
My desire to live well, in a responsible manner causes me to (very rarely) exercise such a scenario. Most often than not, i can buy whatever I want grown within 50 kilometers of my home. Am i allowed a 'treat' every now and then? say, citrus from florida? Sure, no problem. I just dont make it a staple of my diet. I eat locally grown, seasonal produce. Alot of it.
I buy eggs from a small organic chicken farmer that I work with. I buy bread from a baker whom I bike to. I buy pasta next door to that baker. My beer brewery (and distillery (Canadian Club is made 4 blocks away)) are within 4 blocks. Cheese is made accross the city but I buy it from a small grocer. etc etc etc. I get exercise, I even drink the local organic fair-trade coffee from an indy cafe a few blocks away...
Many hear this stuff and say, "but i dont have all those vendors so near to my home" -- and I say "move out of suburbia".
Fuel taxes pay for road construction and maintenance, at least here in the United States. hahahha! Fuel taxes DONT pay for the EXTERNALITIES! They dont pay for ill health associated w/ pollution. They dont pay for health costs of traffic accidents. They dont even *really* pay to maintain/build the roads! The taxes pay for some, but not nearly all of even the direct (maintain/build) costs!
Sad, meanwhile of course people laugh at the TTC, especially when they ask for more money
Of course they laugh, the TTC cant POSSIBLE correct the problem with transport as long as all this idiotic urban sprawl continues. Every city in the country has gotten so f'ed up in the last 25 years to the point that its going to take 150 years to correct it.
But you are not paying for the very real and tangible costs of the *roads* themselves, of the traffic deaths associated with truck congestion, of the health costs (literal $) spent on lung ailments (pollution) etc etc etc.
These externals are *real* costs. The article clearly states that we burn Stored Energy at an astonishing rate. THAT is the point. You cannot sell your capital and call it positive income. What do we do if we *waste* all our petrol shipping apples from California to Ontario? What do we do when need that petrol? The POINT is our present Capitalism *isnt* paying for all the costs. Our present system EXTERNALIZES COSTS (roads/pollution/health/safety) and Internalizes benefit ($profit).
Try this on for size: Goto the local SuperMarket and watch them stock the produce shelves... see the sign marked "Product of Ontario" coming from boxes from California...
One of my favorite things to do is make the manager come down and explain why I they are misleading me -- i explain my interest in knowing where my food comes from (local economies/reduced pollution) -- then tell him im not coming back. There are big fines for mislabeling produce on the shelves in Ontario.
BTW, MKalus, your right on the money wrt externalities. People dont realize that their conumption is *not* simply what they have in their hands but the transport, the belch @ the producer, the cars of their employees etc etc etc. One solution is to consume less, more simple products, made locally.
No, you dont have to stop making people. You have to reduce the resources people use for personal transportation.
More buses, bike lanes, walk-ways, Human-Scale Urban Planning, streetcars, subways etc all have a positive effect of reducing energy used.
Further, Im a litter perturbed with your ignorant, tired argument. The "Environmentalists are luddites" argument is stupidity. Environmentalists want balance. Technology can help achieve that balance. But too often than not, more better bigger stuff is just made for the sake of it... for the sake of consumption. This wasted energy (for instance, the personal 4tonne SUV) is what is The Problem. As this article articulates, the trouble is that we are consuming stored energy at such a rate it is amazing. Humanity needs to understand give and take w/ the Natural World. As it stands, we are destroying this vibrant natural world -- all the life on this planet that we managed to live with for millions of years is jeapordized by the the explosion of consumption over the last 3-400 years (for instance). You may think that Some New Technology will arise to solve our problems -- I dont -- and I have no interest in taking that very risky bet. New technology is welcome and necessary -- but ALL the impact of modern life needs to be assessed. When you expell crap into the air from your SUV, you are soiling the Commons. When you pump up oil, refine it and burn it in your SUV you are *NOT* paying the full cost.
Capitalists have managed to convince you that they are Creating Profit when they pump oil (cut rainforests, build suburbs, etc) and sell it -- in fact, they are not. They are ROBBING the planet (which we must all share wisely) and telling you its "ok". Its not, and if there is any sense in Humanity, we had better realize it quick - and not just about Oil. Look around you -- the glue in your chipped-wood desk, the metal PC case, your telephone, the lights, the carpet, drywall, everything around you was made in a giant pollution belching factory somewhere. We *cannot* continue to create all that pollution. The natural resources required to create that stuff (outside of the toxic waste byproducts), *is* ALSO not infinite.
Oil/Cars are one big problem, but not the only one. We are polluting ourselves off the planet, destroying our natural heritage, living in 'the red' wrt Energy use, and telling ourselves how Fucking Smart we are. Get real buddy and wake the hell up.
heeheh, I love it when Americans bash foreign nations for "you get taxed a tonne, to subsidize $THING". If americans added the 'personal cost' of health insurance to their tax bill, they'd be near the top of 'taxed' peoples... the rest of the West *is* 'taxed more', but we get *FAR* more service for our tax bill.. first, we dont spend $400 Billion per year on War...
I live in Canada, and am very happy to pay my tax bill. Im also happy my taxes arent spent like yours... if they were, Id be moving - and mad as hell.
Why build more plants? Keep the rate of creation constant and mandate efficiency/conservation. Need more? Raise the price (reduces demand..)
LISTEN: YOU CANNOT JUST KEEP INCREASING THE CONSUMPTION OF EVERYTHING. With nuclear, i know, you can make more and more and more relatively easily, but with more plants so comes an increased opportunity for failure. Count your blessings, keep ontop of the safety of what you have now, and encourage conservation.
Exactly the reason we need to stop them. $PRODUCT Companies will sell anything -- liquid death, PCPs , asbestos, guns, ultra-high-fat-foods, polystyrene packaging, oil, cars, vinyl floors, PolyVinylChloride $WHATEVER, shit, BigAmericanChemical(someone want to help with who.. ive forgotten...) companies still make DDT to sell outside NA -- as long as the profit is good. No matter how destructive, they'll make a market and sell it. Citizens who buy this crap are not just accessories after the fact, in reality, they are manipulated (unabashed-pro-consumption-propaganda) to buy... lets be honest, many people make decisinos based on little knowledge, there is *nothing* acting as a counter balance, as guidance, to what is a POSITIVE way to participate in the world... just the CONSUME CONSUME CONSUME message reaches people.
Without going tooo far offtopic, Oil is not the only trouble. The reality is we in the west are consuming such vast amounts of resources -- our present rate of consumption far exceeds the creation of resources (unbalanced relationship w/ natural world) on this planet -- and the consequences of a billionmillionmillion irresponsible acts against The Commons are taking their toll.
When the oil companies are reigned in, we'll have to talk w/ the rest, because the *REALITY* is that the West cannot export (as we are trying (in order to perpetuate OUR-OWN lifestyle)) our way of "living" to the rest of the world -- it simply impossible for everyone to live like we do. We have to learn to live without all this irresponsible, wastefull consumption -- oil included.
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WRT the insane War on some Drugs, and prices; have a look at this recent Forbes article on the subject.
Cannabis cultivation is worth $7Billion to Cannabis Farmers, $5B in beef for ranchers, wheat a paltry $1.7B, $4.3B for Logging and only oil and gas is more @ $15B.
Drug prohibition is one of the gravest mistakes of Modern Culture.
The same book had a story of a guy who tried to create a hearty tomato plant he could transplant in the early spring by grafting a tomato stalk onto a jimson weed rootstock. It did marvelously and they had nice juicy tomatos at a record early date. They didn't eat many of them, after the first one caused the whole family to hallucinate.
Hmmm, what is the name of this book?
is Fedora using apt-get for rpm?
RedHat can't afford to be doing that for products that people download for free.
So they are going to rely on Volunteers to do the work for them? It seems a little dirty that RH has decided that they want to use the community to provide Fedora -- to maintain this 'farmiliarity' -- but not do it in house.
People (companies really) should not start to count on the good-will of a favourable public. What will RH do when people discontinue wanting to work for RH without pay? Wont they just move to another More Libre distro?
There are converters from .DWG to ??? for Quake maps, i remember thinking i should do that to entertain my coworkers.. but alas, another interesting project i cant possibly have the time to do.
I was thinking the same thing, looked up the Sick sensor here
What does "Series 90" mean? What are the different Series? What does it mean if a model is of the same Series as another?
I *just* bought a 3300, love it -- BUT it has no accompanying sofware suite (contrary to salesperson (never make impulse decision, why this time.. oh well)). I am looking for apps for the unit so I can *not* carry my E100 for simple notes / pword lists etc. How do I know what software runs on my model -- all from the Same Series? how do i identify the series of a model?
ha, no, standing armies are used to assail other nations for weatlh.
I never said shit about Criminal Law enforcment.
Pretty damn funny.
Stories about Baby-killing machines are sick.
Could weapons be given their own catagory so they can be shut-off?
How big is an Antelope's Hand? Just a little bigger than a jackalope's buttock?
But don't give me sanctimonius crud about there being something wrong with the market because I want just want inexpensive apples.
Dont give me sanctimonius crud about your wanting highways and biways to move stuff... or complain when I demand clean air, lower taxes for health spending from pollution/accidents/obesity, lower taxes to stop sprawl. etc etc -- its *not* about crazy attachments to nature -- but as the article describes, it is about the insane over-consumption our present culture. "Inexpensive" in todays economy is a broken idea -- look at the subsidy your 'transported apple' gets so many regards... this is *not* an inexepensive apple.
its kinda funny to argue about an apple, no?
Our new Premier says he will hold a referendum on Proportional Representation. That is a start. After that, we kill First Past The Post voting with some other sane method.
Here's a question for you: what cost-effective and economically-viable alternative method do you propose for providing the people of Ontario with apples?
Well good question. I live in a city. So, I would probably petition the planting of an apple tree in my neighbourhood garden... oh, there is no basic foods co-operative program in my city?
So, I would plant an apple tree in my yard and trade apples for peaches with my neighbour. I havnt any land as I live in a highrise?
I would goto the local Farmer's Retail Markets and come home with a basket of apples. No Farmer Owned Retail market?
I would phone the local farmers assocaition and ask who raises apples. I would find out to whom he sells them, and go there. The only buyer is regional food-terminal? That ships his produce far away to who-knows? Sorry, no sale.
I buy peaches (see above).
My desire to live well, in a responsible manner causes me to (very rarely) exercise such a scenario. Most often than not, i can buy whatever I want grown within 50 kilometers of my home. Am i allowed a 'treat' every now and then? say, citrus from florida? Sure, no problem. I just dont make it a staple of my diet. I eat locally grown, seasonal produce. Alot of it.
I buy eggs from a small organic chicken farmer that I work with. I buy bread from a baker whom I bike to. I buy pasta next door to that baker. My beer brewery (and distillery (Canadian Club is made 4 blocks away)) are within 4 blocks. Cheese is made accross the city but I buy it from a small grocer. etc etc etc. I get exercise, I even drink the local organic fair-trade coffee from an indy cafe a few blocks away...
Many hear this stuff and say, "but i dont have all those vendors so near to my home" -- and I say "move out of suburbia".
Fuel taxes pay for road construction and maintenance, at least here in the United States.
hahahha! Fuel taxes DONT pay for the EXTERNALITIES! They dont pay for ill health associated w/ pollution. They dont pay for health costs of traffic accidents. They dont even *really* pay to maintain/build the roads! The taxes pay for some, but not nearly all of even the direct (maintain/build) costs!
Well, keep voting green in Germany -- I am an active Ontario RA Green, and we use the success in Germany as a talking point w/ people often.
Sad, meanwhile of course people laugh at the TTC, especially when they ask for more money
Of course they laugh, the TTC cant POSSIBLE correct the problem with transport as long as all this idiotic urban sprawl continues. Every city in the country has gotten so f'ed up in the last 25 years to the point that its going to take 150 years to correct it.
Did you read the article? The point is *real* costs - REAL COSTS.
Pollution is "Free" today. Roads are "Free" today. Shit (again please read the article) Petrol is nearly free today.
But you are not paying for the very real and tangible costs of the *roads* themselves, of the traffic deaths associated with truck congestion, of the health costs (literal $) spent on lung ailments (pollution) etc etc etc.
These externals are *real* costs. The article clearly states that we burn Stored Energy at an astonishing rate. THAT is the point. You cannot sell your capital and call it positive income. What do we do if we *waste* all our petrol shipping apples from California to Ontario? What do we do when need that petrol? The POINT is our present Capitalism *isnt* paying for all the costs. Our present system EXTERNALIZES COSTS (roads/pollution/health/safety) and Internalizes benefit ($profit).
Try this on for size: Goto the local SuperMarket and watch them stock the produce shelves... see the sign marked "Product of Ontario" coming from boxes from California...
One of my favorite things to do is make the manager come down and explain why I they are misleading me -- i explain my interest in knowing where my food comes from (local economies/reduced pollution) -- then tell him im not coming back. There are big fines for mislabeling produce on the shelves in Ontario.
BTW, MKalus, your right on the money wrt externalities. People dont realize that their conumption is *not* simply what they have in their hands but the transport, the belch @ the producer, the cars of their employees etc etc etc. One solution is to consume less, more simple products, made locally.
Someone has to subsidize it, I wonder who.
People subsidize international trade by building/maintaining highways.
All highways should be pay-for-use. Our Gov should tax based on kilometers and vehicle weight.
No, you dont have to stop making people. You have to reduce the resources people use for personal transportation.
More buses, bike lanes, walk-ways, Human-Scale Urban Planning, streetcars, subways etc all have a positive effect of reducing energy used.
Further, Im a litter perturbed with your ignorant, tired argument. The "Environmentalists are luddites" argument is stupidity. Environmentalists want balance. Technology can help achieve that balance. But too often than not, more better bigger stuff is just made for the sake of it... for the sake of consumption. This wasted energy (for instance, the personal 4tonne SUV) is what is The Problem. As this article articulates, the trouble is that we are consuming stored energy at such a rate it is amazing. Humanity needs to understand give and take w/ the Natural World. As it stands, we are destroying this vibrant natural world -- all the life on this planet that we managed to live with for millions of years is jeapordized by the the explosion of consumption over the last 3-400 years (for instance). You may think that Some New Technology will arise to solve our problems -- I dont -- and I have no interest in taking that very risky bet. New technology is welcome and necessary -- but ALL the impact of modern life needs to be assessed. When you expell crap into the air from your SUV, you are soiling the Commons. When you pump up oil, refine it and burn it in your SUV you are *NOT* paying the full cost.
Capitalists have managed to convince you that they are Creating Profit when they pump oil (cut rainforests, build suburbs, etc) and sell it -- in fact, they are not. They are ROBBING the planet (which we must all share wisely) and telling you its "ok". Its not, and if there is any sense in Humanity, we had better realize it quick - and not just about Oil. Look around you -- the glue in your chipped-wood desk, the metal PC case, your telephone, the lights, the carpet, drywall, everything around you was made in a giant pollution belching factory somewhere. We *cannot* continue to create all that pollution. The natural resources required to create that stuff (outside of the toxic waste byproducts), *is* ALSO not infinite.
Oil/Cars are one big problem, but not the only one. We are polluting ourselves off the planet, destroying our natural heritage, living in 'the red' wrt Energy use, and telling ourselves how Fucking Smart we are. Get real buddy and wake the hell up.
When all these manufacturers abandon tablet sales, we'll see a dirth of them for-sale @ ebay.com (tigerdirect etc).
Just like the all the 'internet appliances' that were dumped, I can get a tablet too.
heeheh, I love it when Americans bash foreign nations for "you get taxed a tonne, to subsidize $THING". If americans added the 'personal cost' of health insurance to their tax bill, they'd be near the top of 'taxed' peoples... the rest of the West *is* 'taxed more', but we get *FAR* more service for our tax bill.. first, we dont spend $400 Billion per year on War...
I live in Canada, and am very happy to pay my tax bill. Im also happy my taxes arent spent like yours... if they were, Id be moving - and mad as hell.
Why build more plants? Keep the rate of creation constant and mandate efficiency/conservation. Need more? Raise the price (reduces demand..)
LISTEN: YOU CANNOT JUST KEEP INCREASING THE CONSUMPTION OF EVERYTHING. With nuclear, i know, you can make more and more and more relatively easily, but with more plants so comes an increased opportunity for failure. Count your blessings, keep ontop of the safety of what you have now, and encourage conservation.
as long as the profit margin is high.
Exactly the reason we need to stop them. $PRODUCT Companies will sell anything -- liquid death, PCPs , asbestos, guns, ultra-high-fat-foods, polystyrene packaging, oil, cars, vinyl floors, PolyVinylChloride $WHATEVER, shit, BigAmericanChemical(someone want to help with who.. ive forgotten...) companies still make DDT to sell outside NA -- as long as the profit is good. No matter how destructive, they'll make a market and sell it. Citizens who buy this crap are not just accessories after the fact, in reality, they are manipulated (unabashed-pro-consumption-propaganda) to buy... lets be honest, many people make decisinos based on little knowledge, there is *nothing* acting as a counter balance, as guidance, to what is a POSITIVE way to participate in the world... just the CONSUME CONSUME CONSUME message reaches people.
Without going tooo far offtopic, Oil is not the only trouble. The reality is we in the west are consuming such vast amounts of resources -- our present rate of consumption far exceeds the creation of resources (unbalanced relationship w/ natural world) on this planet -- and the consequences of a billionmillionmillion irresponsible acts against The Commons are taking their toll.
When the oil companies are reigned in, we'll have to talk w/ the rest, because the *REALITY* is that the West cannot export (as we are trying (in order to perpetuate OUR-OWN lifestyle)) our way of "living" to the rest of the world -- it simply impossible for everyone to live like we do. We have to learn to live without all this irresponsible, wastefull consumption -- oil included.