I run Mandrake 7.0, and have tried running several rh6.1 packages previously with no luck. I get different outcomes with different versions of different packages. I believe it was the Glide SRPM from the 7.0 cd that wouldnt compile. Recently I have tried the 7.1 SRPM and it compiled, but then *mesa* wouldnt compile with it as well. (previously I have not been running device3dfx, which was probably a mistake)
A nice idea, but you really dont want to add to the already large file size. The solution? ROT13 the last 256 bytes of the MP3 (ID3v1 tag) and then XOR the MPEG header by the MP3 filename minus its given extension.
You are hereby controlling access to the MP3's contents, and copyrighting its ID3 text value (over 200 characters). This will hold up under the DMCA, and simple ROT13/XOR will not add to the file size. (XOR probably isnt a good idea, but any rotating cipher would work just as well)
Mission Critical does not always equate to vast though. Large and critical in these cases, but still not vast (only in comparison to something small... think multi-terrabyte databases)
Guilty Party: We are not the census contaminants you are after Gov't Party: Your JEDI mind tricks do not work on us, we are not human! Guilty Party: So uhh... how did you manage to get to your position of power then? Gov't Party: We are not the Gov't criminals you suspect we are Guilty Party: You are not the Gov't criminals we suspect you are
I'm not as affected by these sort of things as some people are... that might be because I have a slower uptake on new stuff. I also keep my CDs in a huge box which generally gets carted around with me.
I wonder though... if changing the format of CDs meant that everyone had to get a new CD player to play new CDs... I dont believe that RIAA would go ahead. But dont put it past them to put it in DVD2 (ala the next big thing... not neccessarily called DVD2). Cassettes are still around. *some* new music still gets released on vinyls.
CDs being phased out soon because of SAFEAUDIO? I highly doubt it.
I would like to point out the following, and have you consider it please.
1. He already said he hasnt tried ODBC, but also pointed out that he wasnt willing to by asking us to first.
2. Their workplace is happy on Win32/MacOS. They are unlikely to fire their staff because they dont know what their boss feels is an inferior OS. (Not neccesarily my opinion)
3. Solid transaction support is a *must* have for anyone running any sort of financial application. It *has* to pass the ACID test, with no exceptions.
Pertaining to your points:
1. SQL Server comes free with Win2K
2. FUD.
3. True. But not neccessarily relevant once you may have to possibly take into account my point #3.
4. The boss SPECIFIED the windows clients, this means the duct tape is connecting to the db. Remember, he has no choice about the client, so whatever back end he chooses *has* to work well.
5. You can write stored procedures to back up *any* SQL database to file or to another SQL database. Its not *that* hard.
6. The reverse is only seldom true because once they know linux you no longer classify them as a Win32 tech.
7. Cant argue there, that's a very good point.
8. Companies need accountability, and paid-for support that will be there at 3am in the morning "until its fixed". Not someone on IRC that says "I'm tired, I have to go to bed". It is foolish to ignore a fast growing OS, but it is much more foolish to ignore your bosses demands. If 90% of the office knows Windows, then it is by far better to use windows than to rehire (more expensive) unix people, or pay for (Expensive) training for the windows people (who may or may not "get it")
Sometimes the "right thing" is not always clear. I'm not saying that you're wrong, or that the other guy is right, but please look at this from a non-defensive position. There are clearly more things at stake here than chooising a "free" database.
That's plain old FUD. Microsoft hasnt dropped support for databases in the past, and nearly always provide an upgrade path. Win95 is old outdated software, they have provided a direct upgrade path to win2k professional or WinME, or Win98 if you like. All are compatible. There will be an upgrade wizard in VB.NET, and it will cover 90% of the upgrade, and point out the 10% it cant (IF YOU HAVE A BAD CODING STYLE... ie you are lazy and dont specifically declare your variables or point to a property of an object)
Please stop distributing above said FUD, and return to the real world.
Forgive me for asking, but isnt RJ-11/RJ-12 for phone cabling? I know that it was used for early networking among macintoshes, but I was under the impression that RJ-45 was the networking clip of choice.
Perhaps this is why the 800 number zombies arent understanding what you're asking?
My first thought is to agree with you, and say "Why yessir, I did!" but I stopped and thought about it for a while. I actually escaped more cleanly than most did.
In fact, all things considered, I think I made out like a bandit with them. I had a Cyrix 100 and a Cyrix 200. Other than heat issues, I never *really* had a problem with them.
Sure they ran hot. VERY hot. But they ran... and they could count too. *grin* Seriously though, I replaced the cpu fans and heat sinks with something that cut the mustard a little better, and never had a problem with them. Ran them for the better part of three years, and then gave them to other people, whom to the best of my knowledge are still running them. How on earth could I complain about that?
That is absolutely correct. You are always free to write your own and release it under the GPL. I could not and would not ever deny you that right. But just because you *can* and have a right to do so with your own software does not mean that I have to do it with mine... do you understand? My ideals are different from your ideals, which are in turn different from any large corporations ideals. BUT... If there is no other software for the job than mine, and nobody writes a free alternative, then yes I do deserve to be set up for the rest of my life, if I so desire.
*grin*
Microsoft cant compete with linux like that. Unless they want to pay us to use Windows. And I'm not totally sure that many linux users would go for that =)
I think that your personal goals and ideals are commendable, and wish you luck in attaining and maintaining them. However, I know that a lot of people (Corporations) and myself dont subscribe to them.
I like free software. On occasion, I have reason to write software, and in most cases, I will make that software available to whomever wants it, at no cost. (assuming there is no cost to me to get it to them). But I think there is a personal choice in what you do with your software.
There is a very real cost in copying software in an unauthorised manner. Which is is to say, I have to eat, I have to live, or logically, I cant write more software.
Lets assume I have written some amazing new program. What I have created is innately my own creation, by definition of create. I could, in reality, keep it to myself, nothing says that I have to distribute it. But then I think "Hey, why dont I try to recap some of my expenses in writing this? I know a lot of people would also find it handy". So I personally decide to sell non-exclusive lincenses of this program. In the course, your friend buys a copy. Now what 'right' does your friend have to give you a copy? It is not his creation, he knew when he bought it that he would not be allowed to copy it... and he paid money still, knowing this was the case. How can you argue that he has a right to copy it? So he illegally, and unfairly makes a copy of the software. You look at it, and say "Hey, I'd love to make this work in way ZyXXy". So you want to modify an unauthorised (illegal) copy of a program you personally have no rights whatsoever to do anything with, not even to run. The only right you have to that program is to produce a competitor, and that without running my program, because you have not obtained permission to run it (a license).
Sometimes its not a multi-million-dollar corporation behind the program you're copying because you think you have the 'right' to. Sometimes, its a guy (or girl) desperately trying to use their skills well enough to make a living, trying to get enough money to pay those daily expenses. Sometimes, not paying your way is equivalent to saying "I dont care if you starve, are homeless, or exist at all, I just want to use your software, and I will not pay".
I hope that you can take the time to examine your motives. I really do think that it is commendable that you wish to help write Free software for people to use. But I also do honestly think that expecting that same wish from everyone is both ignorant and arrogant when they have stated that they do not believe the same, and will not, and that you must not apply your own beliefs to their software.
If you said *deutschland* then the "USian Slashbots" would probably assume (correctly) that you were referring to *germany*, since that is, of course, where deutschland refers to. Germany.
Not the Netherlands. Not Holland. Nor Nederlandse, Italia, or Brasilia... it means Germany in the native German tongue. Grind your axe somewhere else (where you can pretend to know what you're talking about and fools actually believe you). If you were so hung up about it then you would have addressed the countries by their own names. (Just because the english speaking world calls China "China" doesnt mean that is how China addresses it... and there's a hell of a lot more people calling it something other than China than there are people calling Soccer "Football").
The MSN freaks will call it MSN. The Internet freaks will call it the internet. Nobody will give... not in their mind.
A rose by any other name is still still a rose, and smells as sweet.
You've got to love their page devoted to slashdot response:
Slashdot:
If anybody can get the code, you won't ever be able to prevent cheating !
Nevrax: Gee, we've never thought about that. I think we're going to close down and cry now.;)
That's why I got hired by a university to manage their campus network (WAN, LAN, Desktop, LAB, et al) before I even graduated high school, let alone went through college.
That's why every person in that IT department was under 35. That's why the majority of the IT deparment was under *25*. That's why the network improved 500% when moved in and started fixing things up. That's why they have computers worth working on now, instead of the garbage they were trying to study on before.
That's why network services lifted the standard bar, and not only that, but continually raised the users expectations, and consistantly met them.
While I agree with you, there is no way he could ask the group to cease and desist design and implementation of OpenSSH. Its an open protocol. He can (and has) demanded they change their name. And that's about as far as his legal rights go... name changing. Personally, if they named it ESH to be Encrypted SHell, I would still use it.
could have been a whole lot better with a lot less "dude"'s....
1) Dont forget that "the dot in dot com" *doesnt* say "the www in world wide web". Netcraft is a... tangible... guage, but not a definitive answer.
2) Microsoft *does* have to compete against every linux distribution. Just like it has to compete against every BSD distribution, Be, *n*x...
3) Linux based companies on the *stock market* are riding high. I do not believe that the usage of linux is "riding", let alone on hype.
Yes I like microsoft operating systems, yes i like linux, yes, I use both on a daily basis. But broad sweeping statements dont constitute truth just because you say so.
Just one moment, windows is about to bluescreen because of some faulty memory... my mobo has to 'fab another 1.2GB QDR stick. I'll reply when its done.
I'm not a JEDEC member, I've never read their terms of membership, or anything of the like. In fact, I have no connection to the PC hardware manufacturing industry whatsoever. BUT, I would strongly suspect that membership in JEDEC would be contingent on revealing all IP patents regarding to pending technology standards.... it might not, but it would seem like it was in their best interests to have a clause like that.
I'm also highly suspect of RAMBUS' business techniques. Its one thing to disclose patents at the time of design. Its entirely another to wait for them to get widespread adoption (ala Compuserve with LZW/GIF) and THEN announce that you indeed have a patent on this, and that you will, in fact, be charging money for it. Highly dodgy, and see if RAMBUS are consulted on the next round of JEDEC.
It may well be that RAMBUS has one this round. Personally, I hope they havent, but they do own the patents. I cant see the company having a future in the memory industry though. NG Memory design committees will almost certainly not consult RAMBUS other than to say "So have you patented any of THIS?" and make them sign to it.
What, you need a movie to SEE THINGS to disable disbelief for an hour and a half? What about... oh I dont know... books? And heck, why would you even need *words* to disable disbelief for an hour and a half? You have an imagination, think up your own content! Why do you even need StarTrek?
Please acknowledge that different people need different levels of stimulation to create the awe and disbelief that form their true "StarTrek" experience, and that those levels of stimuli are not neccessarily the same as those you require. Just because you find the original Enterprise conceptually astounding (and by no means am I saying *I* dont) doesnt mean that other people do require an extra level of eye candy to make it all seem just that little bit more real to them.
It would be sad if that in all of your vision of startrek it turned out that you are too short sighted to acknowledge other peoples different needs.
I run Mandrake 7.0, and have tried running several rh6.1 packages previously with no luck. I get different outcomes with different versions of different packages. I believe it was the Glide SRPM from the 7.0 cd that wouldnt compile. Recently I have tried the 7.1 SRPM and it compiled, but then *mesa* wouldnt compile with it as well. (previously I have not been running device3dfx, which was probably a mistake)
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A nice idea, but you really dont want to add to the already large file size. The solution? ROT13 the last 256 bytes of the MP3 (ID3v1 tag) and then XOR the MPEG header by the MP3 filename minus its given extension.
You are hereby controlling access to the MP3's contents, and copyrighting its ID3 text value (over 200 characters). This will hold up under the DMCA, and simple ROT13/XOR will not add to the file size. (XOR probably isnt a good idea, but any rotating cipher would work just as well)
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Mission Critical does not always equate to vast though. Large and critical in these cases, but still not vast (only in comparison to something small... think multi-terrabyte databases)
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Guilty Party: We are not the census contaminants you are after
Gov't Party: Your JEDI mind tricks do not work on us, we are not human!
Guilty Party: So uhh... how did you manage to get to your position of power then?
Gov't Party: We are not the Gov't criminals you suspect we are
Guilty Party: You are not the Gov't criminals we suspect you are
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I'm not as affected by these sort of things as some people are... that might be because I have a slower uptake on new stuff. I also keep my CDs in a huge box which generally gets carted around with me.
I wonder though... if changing the format of CDs meant that everyone had to get a new CD player to play new CDs... I dont believe that RIAA would go ahead. But dont put it past them to put it in DVD2 (ala the next big thing... not neccessarily called DVD2). Cassettes are still around. *some* new music still gets released on vinyls.
CDs being phased out soon because of SAFEAUDIO? I highly doubt it.
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I would like to point out the following, and have you consider it please.
1. He already said he hasnt tried ODBC, but also pointed out that he wasnt willing to by asking us to first.
2. Their workplace is happy on Win32/MacOS. They are unlikely to fire their staff because they dont know what their boss feels is an inferior OS. (Not neccesarily my opinion)
3. Solid transaction support is a *must* have for anyone running any sort of financial application. It *has* to pass the ACID test, with no exceptions.
Pertaining to your points:
1. SQL Server comes free with Win2K
2. FUD.
3. True. But not neccessarily relevant once you may have to possibly take into account my point #3.
4. The boss SPECIFIED the windows clients, this means the duct tape is connecting to the db. Remember, he has no choice about the client, so whatever back end he chooses *has* to work well.
5. You can write stored procedures to back up *any* SQL database to file or to another SQL database. Its not *that* hard.
6. The reverse is only seldom true because once they know linux you no longer classify them as a Win32 tech.
7. Cant argue there, that's a very good point.
8. Companies need accountability, and paid-for support that will be there at 3am in the morning "until its fixed". Not someone on IRC that says "I'm tired, I have to go to bed". It is foolish to ignore a fast growing OS, but it is much more foolish to ignore your bosses demands. If 90% of the office knows Windows, then it is by far better to use windows than to rehire (more expensive) unix people, or pay for (Expensive) training for the windows people (who may or may not "get it")
Sometimes the "right thing" is not always clear. I'm not saying that you're wrong, or that the other guy is right, but please look at this from a non-defensive position. There are clearly more things at stake here than chooising a "free" database.
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That's plain old FUD. Microsoft hasnt dropped support for databases in the past, and nearly always provide an upgrade path. Win95 is old outdated software, they have provided a direct upgrade path to win2k professional or WinME, or Win98 if you like. All are compatible. There will be an upgrade wizard in VB.NET, and it will cover 90% of the upgrade, and point out the 10% it cant (IF YOU HAVE A BAD CODING STYLE ... ie you are lazy and dont specifically declare your variables or point to a property of an object)
Please stop distributing above said FUD, and return to the real world.
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Forgive me for asking, but isnt RJ-11/RJ-12 for phone cabling? I know that it was used for early networking among macintoshes, but I was under the impression that RJ-45 was the networking clip of choice.
Perhaps this is why the 800 number zombies arent understanding what you're asking?
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My first thought is to agree with you, and say "Why yessir, I did!" but I stopped and thought about it for a while. I actually escaped more cleanly than most did.
In fact, all things considered, I think I made out like a bandit with them. I had a Cyrix 100 and a Cyrix 200. Other than heat issues, I never *really* had a problem with them.
Sure they ran hot. VERY hot. But they ran... and they could count too. *grin* Seriously though, I replaced the cpu fans and heat sinks with something that cut the mustard a little better, and never had a problem with them. Ran them for the better part of three years, and then gave them to other people, whom to the best of my knowledge are still running them. How on earth could I complain about that?
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I had a cyrix 686 CPU once (twice). Second degree burn via touching the heatsink took approximately 0.5 seconds.
it doesnt have to be too long, or neccessarily too stupid to get burned.
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That is absolutely correct. You are always free to write your own and release it under the GPL. I could not and would not ever deny you that right. But just because you *can* and have a right to do so with your own software does not mean that I have to do it with mine... do you understand? My ideals are different from your ideals, which are in turn different from any large corporations ideals. BUT... If there is no other software for the job than mine, and nobody writes a free alternative, then yes I do deserve to be set up for the rest of my life, if I so desire.
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*grin*
Microsoft cant compete with linux like that. Unless they want to pay us to use Windows. And I'm not totally sure that many linux users would go for that =)
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I think that your personal goals and ideals are commendable, and wish you luck in attaining and maintaining them. However, I know that a lot of people (Corporations) and myself dont subscribe to them.
I like free software. On occasion, I have reason to write software, and in most cases, I will make that software available to whomever wants it, at no cost. (assuming there is no cost to me to get it to them). But I think there is a personal choice in what you do with your software.
There is a very real cost in copying software in an unauthorised manner. Which is is to say, I have to eat, I have to live, or logically, I cant write more software.
Lets assume I have written some amazing new program. What I have created is innately my own creation, by definition of create. I could, in reality, keep it to myself, nothing says that I have to distribute it. But then I think "Hey, why dont I try to recap some of my expenses in writing this? I know a lot of people would also find it handy". So I personally decide to sell non-exclusive lincenses of this program. In the course, your friend buys a copy. Now what 'right' does your friend have to give you a copy? It is not his creation, he knew when he bought it that he would not be allowed to copy it... and he paid money still, knowing this was the case. How can you argue that he has a right to copy it? So he illegally, and unfairly makes a copy of the software. You look at it, and say "Hey, I'd love to make this work in way ZyXXy". So you want to modify an unauthorised (illegal) copy of a program you personally have no rights whatsoever to do anything with, not even to run. The only right you have to that program is to produce a competitor, and that without running my program, because you have not obtained permission to run it (a license).
Sometimes its not a multi-million-dollar corporation behind the program you're copying because you think you have the 'right' to. Sometimes, its a guy (or girl) desperately trying to use their skills well enough to make a living, trying to get enough money to pay those daily expenses. Sometimes, not paying your way is equivalent to saying "I dont care if you starve, are homeless, or exist at all, I just want to use your software, and I will not pay".
I hope that you can take the time to examine your motives. I really do think that it is commendable that you wish to help write Free software for people to use. But I also do honestly think that expecting that same wish from everyone is both ignorant and arrogant when they have stated that they do not believe the same, and will not, and that you must not apply your own beliefs to their software.
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If you said *deutschland* then the "USian Slashbots" would probably assume (correctly) that you were referring to *germany*, since that is, of course, where deutschland refers to. Germany. ... and there's a hell of a lot more people calling it something other than China than there are people calling Soccer "Football").
Not the Netherlands. Not Holland. Nor Nederlandse, Italia, or Brasilia... it means Germany in the native German tongue. Grind your axe somewhere else (where you can pretend to know what you're talking about and fools actually believe you). If you were so hung up about it then you would have addressed the countries by their own names. (Just because the english speaking world calls China "China" doesnt mean that is how China addresses it
The MSN freaks will call it MSN. The Internet freaks will call it the internet. Nobody will give... not in their mind.
A rose by any other name is still still a rose, and smells as sweet.
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Nevrax: Gee, we've never thought about that. I think we're going to close down and cry now.
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Uhh... yeah, that's why.
That's why I got hired by a university to manage their campus network (WAN, LAN, Desktop, LAB, et al) before I even graduated high school, let alone went through college.
That's why every person in that IT department was under 35. That's why the majority of the IT deparment was under *25*. That's why the network improved 500% when moved in and started fixing things up. That's why they have computers worth working on now, instead of the garbage they were trying to study on before.
That's why network services lifted the standard bar, and not only that, but continually raised the users expectations, and consistantly met them.
That's why... because students are stupid.
And closed minded too, mind you!
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Hmm. now if only it came with a precompiled binary... I have no ASM compiler on windows.
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Actually, read the license again. It simply does not deny them permission. It doesnt specifically grant any rights other than to use the code.
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"Instead, realise the truth"
"The truth?"
"That there is no MIR"
* Amazed look across Neo/Slashdotters eyes
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While I agree with you, there is no way he could ask the group to cease and desist design and implementation of OpenSSH. Its an open protocol. He can (and has) demanded they change their name. And that's about as far as his legal rights go... name changing. Personally, if they named it ESH to be Encrypted SHell, I would still use it.
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could have been a whole lot better with a lot less "dude"'s....
... tangible ... guage, but not a definitive answer.
1) Dont forget that "the dot in dot com" *doesnt* say "the www in world wide web". Netcraft is a
2) Microsoft *does* have to compete against every linux distribution. Just like it has to compete against every BSD distribution, Be, *n*x...
3) Linux based companies on the *stock market* are riding high. I do not believe that the usage of linux is "riding", let alone on hype.
Yes I like microsoft operating systems, yes i like linux, yes, I use both on a daily basis. But broad sweeping statements dont constitute truth just because you say so.
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Just one moment, windows is about to bluescreen because of some faulty memory... my mobo has to 'fab another 1.2GB QDR stick. I'll reply when its done.
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I'm not a JEDEC member, I've never read their terms of membership, or anything of the like. In fact, I have no connection to the PC hardware manufacturing industry whatsoever. BUT, I would strongly suspect that membership in JEDEC would be contingent on revealing all IP patents regarding to pending technology standards .... it might not, but it would seem like it was in their best interests to have a clause like that.
I'm also highly suspect of RAMBUS' business techniques. Its one thing to disclose patents at the time of design. Its entirely another to wait for them to get widespread adoption (ala Compuserve with LZW/GIF) and THEN announce that you indeed have a patent on this, and that you will, in fact, be charging money for it. Highly dodgy, and see if RAMBUS are consulted on the next round of JEDEC.
It may well be that RAMBUS has one this round. Personally, I hope they havent, but they do own the patents. I cant see the company having a future in the memory industry though. NG Memory design committees will almost certainly not consult RAMBUS other than to say "So have you patented any of THIS?" and make them sign to it.
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Actually, if you read the about Eidola web page you'll notice that there will be no binary form for an Eidola program.
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What, you need a movie to SEE THINGS to disable disbelief for an hour and a half? What about ... oh I dont know ... books? And heck, why would you even need *words* to disable disbelief for an hour and a half? You have an imagination, think up your own content! Why do you even need StarTrek?
Please acknowledge that different people need different levels of stimulation to create the awe and disbelief that form their true "StarTrek" experience, and that those levels of stimuli are not neccessarily the same as those you require. Just because you find the original Enterprise conceptually astounding (and by no means am I saying *I* dont) doesnt mean that other people do require an extra level of eye candy to make it all seem just that little bit more real to them.
It would be sad if that in all of your vision of startrek it turned out that you are too short sighted to acknowledge other peoples different needs.
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