Perhaps, in the past, bottles and pottery were much more expensive and not tossed away after a single use?
Nope. Considering they still dig up 300-400 year old brown glass bottles along the Thames that were used for one-off beer drinking, don't think that was the problem. Pottery on the other hand was dirt cheap, any garbage dump from about 1700-1300 will tell you that much.
If you can travel at 60mph you can travel at 60 times the speed of light. - Every Space Nutter
You're agreeing that you'll die when you hit 60mph then? Or are you saying that our understanding of physics is still limited to the point that we simply don't understand how the universe itself is structurally formed outside of theories that fit our current understanding.
You're free to drink all the sea water you like. It's *incredibly* abundant. *Potable* drinking water, on the other hand, can be remarkably rare in nature. If you can find a glacier-fed river you're lucky. Otherwise you have to take a chance on a spring-fed river that can be laced with heavy metals, or a pond or lake that can harbor toxic algae.
Potable drinking water was sure an issue, which is why so many people would drink ye olde yeasty beer instead of water. But if you think it's rare? Hardly. What's rare is clean water that doesn't require secondary purification. On the other hand, aquifer water, or spring source water is stupidly easy to find pretty much anywhere unless you're in a desert. You don't need glacier fed rivers for clean water. Even in the asshole of nowhere, the biggest problems are people using dirty water sources for drinking and not even doing the basic things that europeans were doing to make it potable ~2000 years ago. I'll let you think on why.
FYI: You're more likely to pick up e.coli from a mountain river that's glacier fed anyway.
Beaches for example. A broken glass bottle can become quite dangerous.
How did we ever survive ~600 years of broken glass and pottery bottles along beaches/shorelines/etc before the new craze of this shit happened anyway? Seems to me the issue is more of a problem of liability then anything else.
Stream sniping is for people who are playing and streaming the game as they play it, lol. Someone watching that stream live knows where the streamer is, or close to it, all the time.
So, the exact thing I said.
They do NOT know where everyone else is in addition to the streamer.
They don't? Gee those wall hacks as they used to be called sure do work still don't they.
This "you only care about X and must therefore hate Y" is wrong on both counts.
So why is that a primary focus of intersectional feminism? You can try and weasel out of it with whatever bullshit you want, but when you can pull up a leftwing or progressive publication, or a lecture, or syllabus out of a university and it promotes that exact agenda. It's not a conspiracy, not anymore then it was of "political lesbianism" in the 1970's and feminists attacking straight women who wouldn't fall in line.
Well that's pretty much the definition of ad homenim. You don't like what the authors are saying so you'd going for a character assassination instead.
When feminists run to the UN to complain that "it's the everyday-to-day run of the mill tweets" that are harassment, then the parent poster has easily proven their point that these people are progressive shills aiming for more censorship. You know, the same censorship that's been pushed heavily by the left for the last decade. To the point that they now claim that "disagreement is harassment." The authors are shit, just like the assholes who parrot the "1:4 women are homeless" or "11% of workplace deaths are female" or "1:3 women will be sexually assaulted" "7% of suicides are female" garbage, propaganda and bullshit. Then demand, that governments come up with programs(or throw money at these things) to specifically target these groups when men are lined up out the door, around the block and into the next couple of streets waiting for help.
It has nothing to do with "scared", it has to do with people understanding basic science and physics. Space Nutters never learned it, so they think everything is possible. They are a lot like little children.
Traveling more than 60mph will kill a person. - The learned minds of science and physics, not more then 200 years ago.
Likely the way that exchanges worked prior to bank centralization for lending controls. In other words the market more or less set the monetary value of an item, vs the artificial float that's existed the last ~200 years or so.
You just don't want to admit that your SJW outrage is empty posturing Mashiki, a hollow way to declare your self-important virtues without actually considering substance.
Seems to me, that you're much happier making assumptions based on what you believe instead of even putting pseudo-anonminimity on the line. Oh to be such a beacon of substance and understanding!
Yes, we know there are people out there who think there is a war on Christmas
Ah, but one doesn't have to think there is a war on Christmas when leftists line up to protest the Sally Ann doing a Christmas donation drive for sick kids in a hospital, now do we.
and want to self-fund a border wall.
Sounds good to me, it's sure a better option then "let the world in" and then wonder why women are afraid to go out at night like in Sweden.
Let's just shut it down!
Illegal immigration? You bet. Those women and girls being mass raped while fleeing through Mexico would probably love you for that.
No, that's Trump who is still upset that people care that the Saudis murdered some journalist.
That's why the media played on that for weeks on end, but Trump cares? Hey why don't you go look up the guy's "who-who" connections.
But hey, go ahead and support ripping people's clothes off because you just don't like their religion.
Feminists defending people who'd rather subjugate them is ripping peoples clothes off. Go on, I'm interested in hearing more about this line of reasoning.
That's your anti-SJW virtues. Death to Islam! Preach it some more!
So anti-SJW virtues are western values? Islam has done a pretty good job in the 17 years of preaching death to the unbeliever, I don't think I need to help them with that. Though it might explain why leftists seem to fall in love with it.
I hope you get help for your mental illness, Mashiki.
Facts are mental illness. Well that does line up with progressive thinking, after all the first thing the communists of the USSR did was label anyone who wouldn't fall in line as mentally ill.
You can always find an idiot calling themselves X to use as an argument against any idea, movement or philosophy. That doesn't make them representative or even the thing they claim to be.
When those people are the ones teaching at universities, publishing books, promoting feminist ethos they're not really feminists? If you're agreeing with this, then you're already an anti-feminst and MRA. Your move.
If you disagree then I'm claiming to be a conservative. Your move.
It's the left and progressives who have lined up with identity politics, not conservatives. And if you refuse to adhere to what's correct, you're Islamophobic, or racist, or sexist, not conservatives. Is it really that hard to admit that there's something wrong with the current "mainstream" brand of feminism that would be happier supporting people that would subjugate them.
Where do you get this bollocks from? Is his name Carl?
Have you bothered paying attention to what feminists have been spouting for the last ~7 years or so? I guess not. Why don't you go take a look, I'll wait. Can't wait till you get to the feminists protesting a gay pride parade, because it would offend muslims.
How is removing something from their repository, a free service that they provide to you because they believe in the principal of doing so, imposing their views on you? You don't like their repo, go somewhere else.
You mean the people who aren't actually writing repo's, and are enforcing their views on other people? When was the last time you went to the doctors office, and got a cobbler to remove a wart.
Also, why should we automatically shy away or discredit an article that has some agenda. We should be smart enough to catch that, and realized that the writer may have a point that is being expressed, and if you disagree with it, then you need to confront the points do your research to show they are invalid or wrong. Not just go in a huff "This information goes against my Uninformed beliefs, so it is wrong!"
It's not that people have a problem with an article having an agenda, that's a symptom of the problem. The problem people have is that wikipedia presents itself as generalized source for a topic and adheres to NPOV. This is the opposite that happens, especially in the last ~8 years it's gone more for sources which are approved, but not factually correct or accurate. **Insert XKCD comic about citeogenisis here**
The entire basis of fact checking on general knowledge material(even specialized areas) is left at the feet of whatever is being cited, by whoever is publishing it as long as wikipedia approves. That's the face of fact that wikipedia promotes. That's not even getting into the cases where editors, power editors, or admins go out of their way to taint topics with false information. Or even overt double standards on topics when it carries the editors PoV. This really isn't all that different then the quibbling you see with "fact check" sites.
Surely this story is fake and weÃ(TM)re being trolled here?
Considering the absolute garbage being pushed by governments, feminist organizations and other crap into meritocratic fields? We're not being trolled. There are literal retards out there. The same people who demand "50% of xyz jobs be women" while pushing unqualified people to get the job. Who will then go out of their way to screech that the word "boob" causes rape, but at the same time will stand on a street corner and screech "free the boob!"
Is there really no middle ground between "don't be a sexist asshat" and "everyone must wear a burka"?
Going by the feminist self defense brigade, defending Islam is great and a burka is 'liberating' and a 'great statement for feminism.' So simply no, there is no middle ground because there seems to be some batshit crazy people who hold substantial positions in various organizations and promote that.
If not I think we have bigger problems, because walking around naked in public is already illegal in most places and we must already be on that slipper slope. My god, they have already banned erect penises on British TV 60 years ago, it's no wonder it's now a Sharia hell-hole!
Considering you've got mass child rape gangs, the police looking the other way, "islamic police" beating the piss out of gays in UK cities, and various things like the Trojan Horse Scandal, seems like you're well on your way to becoming a sharia hell hole. Going by your own posts, you don't seem to have any problem with this either.
They are people exercising their right to free speech. If you don't like it, don't listen.
Good enough. Right up until we get to the point where they're trying to impose their views on other people....which is what's happening here. And has happened in an ass load of times in the last year as well and the last decade too.
End it there and you would have been absolutely correct. SWJ-outrage is the most popular form of virtue signalling.
You don't seem to have understood their sentence. People who are anti-SJW aren't doing this to be moral, they're doing it to ensure that things aren't over-run by little moral authoritarians like yourself. They're not in it for the points, there's no clubs, there's no gigantic groups that you can paint up to show this semi-organized or even organized anti-sjw agenda. This is the part of "normies getting P/O'd at your bullshit" that you don't seem to understand.
In the rare cases when people actually start pushing back against "SJW outrage" and some type of group forms, the first thing you do is call them harassers, sexists, misogynists, rapists, nazi's and so forth.
The only witch hunt going on here is the anti-SJWs demanding that heads roll for this outrage.
Really? Having just skimmed the comments minus AC's, that doesn't look to be true. Looks like there's a bunch of anti-SJW's who are getting tired that assholes are offended over words and demand people bow to their views though. On the other hand, the people in support of this going by various SJW heavy platforms and social media are ALL for doxxing and harassing the developers.
Then again, one only has to remember that "words are violence" in the land of progressive thought. So I can see where you'd get "demanding heads roll for this outrage" is coming from, not that it doesn't make progressives look like they can't function in a normal society.
You don't see the irony in crying your eyes out about PC'ers? Lol you anti-PC'ers are just as bad, in reverse. You ARE the problem YOU cry about! Nobody has a gun to your head, crybaby faggots.
No? Never heard of Lindsay Shepard? She's the TA who was a Wilfrid Laurier a couple of years ago and showed a clip of Jordan Peterson to her class as part of contrasting between two points of view, and two professors including her supervisor falsely invented a complaint against in order to force her "into line" with their line of thinking. Not only that, but they threatened her with "human rights" complaints, and threatened to contact the crown and have her criminally charged with inciting hatred.
Those politically correct people, their supporters, and so on? They held a gun to her head, and went out of their way in an attempt to intimidate her. The only reason that her academic career wasn't fully ruined is that she was smart enough to record it and exposed their intimidation and threats. She's not the first one, she's not the last one. Donglegate, Tim Hunt, Matt Taylor, and the hundreds of others who've had that metaphorical gun to their head for not "not being politically correct" enough exist.
Perhaps, in the past, bottles and pottery were much more expensive and not tossed away after a single use?
Nope. Considering they still dig up 300-400 year old brown glass bottles along the Thames that were used for one-off beer drinking, don't think that was the problem. Pottery on the other hand was dirt cheap, any garbage dump from about 1700-1300 will tell you that much.
If you can travel at 60mph you can travel at 60 times the speed of light. - Every Space Nutter
You're agreeing that you'll die when you hit 60mph then? Or are you saying that our understanding of physics is still limited to the point that we simply don't understand how the universe itself is structurally formed outside of theories that fit our current understanding.
You're free to drink all the sea water you like. It's *incredibly* abundant. *Potable* drinking water, on the other hand, can be remarkably rare in nature. If you can find a glacier-fed river you're lucky. Otherwise you have to take a chance on a spring-fed river that can be laced with heavy metals, or a pond or lake that can harbor toxic algae.
Potable drinking water was sure an issue, which is why so many people would drink ye olde yeasty beer instead of water. But if you think it's rare? Hardly. What's rare is clean water that doesn't require secondary purification. On the other hand, aquifer water, or spring source water is stupidly easy to find pretty much anywhere unless you're in a desert. You don't need glacier fed rivers for clean water. Even in the asshole of nowhere, the biggest problems are people using dirty water sources for drinking and not even doing the basic things that europeans were doing to make it potable ~2000 years ago. I'll let you think on why.
FYI: You're more likely to pick up e.coli from a mountain river that's glacier fed anyway.
Beaches for example. A broken glass bottle can become quite dangerous.
How did we ever survive ~600 years of broken glass and pottery bottles along beaches/shorelines/etc before the new craze of this shit happened anyway? Seems to me the issue is more of a problem of liability then anything else.
You don't have a metallic taste if they're coated. That's a failure of bottling and design.
Stream sniping is for people who are playing and streaming the game as they play it, lol. Someone watching that stream live knows where the streamer is, or close to it, all the time.
So, the exact thing I said.
They do NOT know where everyone else is in addition to the streamer.
They don't? Gee those wall hacks as they used to be called sure do work still don't they.
This "you only care about X and must therefore hate Y" is wrong on both counts.
So why is that a primary focus of intersectional feminism? You can try and weasel out of it with whatever bullshit you want, but when you can pull up a leftwing or progressive publication, or a lecture, or syllabus out of a university and it promotes that exact agenda. It's not a conspiracy, not anymore then it was of "political lesbianism" in the 1970's and feminists attacking straight women who wouldn't fall in line.
Well that's pretty much the definition of ad homenim. You don't like what the authors are saying so you'd going for a character assassination instead.
When feminists run to the UN to complain that "it's the everyday-to-day run of the mill tweets" that are harassment, then the parent poster has easily proven their point that these people are progressive shills aiming for more censorship. You know, the same censorship that's been pushed heavily by the left for the last decade. To the point that they now claim that "disagreement is harassment." The authors are shit, just like the assholes who parrot the "1:4 women are homeless" or "11% of workplace deaths are female" or "1:3 women will be sexually assaulted" "7% of suicides are female" garbage, propaganda and bullshit. Then demand, that governments come up with programs(or throw money at these things) to specifically target these groups when men are lined up out the door, around the block and into the next couple of streets waiting for help.
It has nothing to do with "scared", it has to do with people understanding basic science and physics. Space Nutters never learned it, so they think everything is possible. They are a lot like little children.
Traveling more than 60mph will kill a person. - The learned minds of science and physics, not more then 200 years ago.
It's called stream sniping if you're curious.
It's one small step for AI. One giant leap, for AI based genocide!
Likely the way that exchanges worked prior to bank centralization for lending controls. In other words the market more or less set the monetary value of an item, vs the artificial float that's existed the last ~200 years or so.
You just don't want to admit that your SJW outrage is empty posturing Mashiki, a hollow way to declare your self-important virtues without actually considering substance.
Seems to me, that you're much happier making assumptions based on what you believe instead of even putting pseudo-anonminimity on the line. Oh to be such a beacon of substance and understanding!
Yes, we know there are people out there who think there is a war on Christmas
Ah, but one doesn't have to think there is a war on Christmas when leftists line up to protest the Sally Ann doing a Christmas donation drive for sick kids in a hospital, now do we.
and want to self-fund a border wall.
Sounds good to me, it's sure a better option then "let the world in" and then wonder why women are afraid to go out at night like in Sweden.
Let's just shut it down!
Illegal immigration? You bet. Those women and girls being mass raped while fleeing through Mexico would probably love you for that.
No, that's Trump who is still upset that people care that the Saudis murdered some journalist.
That's why the media played on that for weeks on end, but Trump cares? Hey why don't you go look up the guy's "who-who" connections.
But hey, go ahead and support ripping people's clothes off because you just don't like their religion.
Feminists defending people who'd rather subjugate them is ripping peoples clothes off. Go on, I'm interested in hearing more about this line of reasoning.
That's your anti-SJW virtues. Death to Islam! Preach it some more!
So anti-SJW virtues are western values? Islam has done a pretty good job in the 17 years of preaching death to the unbeliever, I don't think I need to help them with that. Though it might explain why leftists seem to fall in love with it.
I hope you get help for your mental illness, Mashiki.
Facts are mental illness. Well that does line up with progressive thinking, after all the first thing the communists of the USSR did was label anyone who wouldn't fall in line as mentally ill.
You can always find an idiot calling themselves X to use as an argument against any idea, movement or philosophy. That doesn't make them representative or even the thing they claim to be.
When those people are the ones teaching at universities, publishing books, promoting feminist ethos they're not really feminists? If you're agreeing with this, then you're already an anti-feminst and MRA. Your move.
If you disagree then I'm claiming to be a conservative. Your move.
It's the left and progressives who have lined up with identity politics, not conservatives. And if you refuse to adhere to what's correct, you're Islamophobic, or racist, or sexist, not conservatives. Is it really that hard to admit that there's something wrong with the current "mainstream" brand of feminism that would be happier supporting people that would subjugate them.
Where do you get this bollocks from? Is his name Carl?
Have you bothered paying attention to what feminists have been spouting for the last ~7 years or so? I guess not. Why don't you go take a look, I'll wait. Can't wait till you get to the feminists protesting a gay pride parade, because it would offend muslims.
How is removing something from their repository, a free service that they provide to you because they believe in the principal of doing so, imposing their views on you? You don't like their repo, go somewhere else.
You mean the people who aren't actually writing repo's, and are enforcing their views on other people? When was the last time you went to the doctors office, and got a cobbler to remove a wart.
Also, why should we automatically shy away or discredit an article that has some agenda. We should be smart enough to catch that, and realized that the writer may have a point that is being expressed, and if you disagree with it, then you need to confront the points do your research to show they are invalid or wrong. Not just go in a huff "This information goes against my Uninformed beliefs, so it is wrong!"
It's not that people have a problem with an article having an agenda, that's a symptom of the problem. The problem people have is that wikipedia presents itself as generalized source for a topic and adheres to NPOV. This is the opposite that happens, especially in the last ~8 years it's gone more for sources which are approved, but not factually correct or accurate. **Insert XKCD comic about citeogenisis here**
The entire basis of fact checking on general knowledge material(even specialized areas) is left at the feet of whatever is being cited, by whoever is publishing it as long as wikipedia approves. That's the face of fact that wikipedia promotes. That's not even getting into the cases where editors, power editors, or admins go out of their way to taint topics with false information. Or even overt double standards on topics when it carries the editors PoV. This really isn't all that different then the quibbling you see with "fact check" sites.
Surely this story is fake and weÃ(TM)re being trolled here?
Considering the absolute garbage being pushed by governments, feminist organizations and other crap into meritocratic fields? We're not being trolled. There are literal retards out there. The same people who demand "50% of xyz jobs be women" while pushing unqualified people to get the job. Who will then go out of their way to screech that the word "boob" causes rape, but at the same time will stand on a street corner and screech "free the boob!"
Is there really no middle ground between "don't be a sexist asshat" and "everyone must wear a burka"?
Going by the feminist self defense brigade, defending Islam is great and a burka is 'liberating' and a 'great statement for feminism.' So simply no, there is no middle ground because there seems to be some batshit crazy people who hold substantial positions in various organizations and promote that.
If not I think we have bigger problems, because walking around naked in public is already illegal in most places and we must already be on that slipper slope. My god, they have already banned erect penises on British TV 60 years ago, it's no wonder it's now a Sharia hell-hole!
Considering you've got mass child rape gangs, the police looking the other way, "islamic police" beating the piss out of gays in UK cities, and various things like the Trojan Horse Scandal, seems like you're well on your way to becoming a sharia hell hole. Going by your own posts, you don't seem to have any problem with this either.
They are people exercising their right to free speech. If you don't like it, don't listen.
Good enough. Right up until we get to the point where they're trying to impose their views on other people....which is what's happening here. And has happened in an ass load of times in the last year as well and the last decade too.
End it there and you would have been absolutely correct. SWJ-outrage is the most popular form of virtue signalling.
You don't seem to have understood their sentence. People who are anti-SJW aren't doing this to be moral, they're doing it to ensure that things aren't over-run by little moral authoritarians like yourself. They're not in it for the points, there's no clubs, there's no gigantic groups that you can paint up to show this semi-organized or even organized anti-sjw agenda. This is the part of "normies getting P/O'd at your bullshit" that you don't seem to understand.
In the rare cases when people actually start pushing back against "SJW outrage" and some type of group forms, the first thing you do is call them harassers, sexists, misogynists, rapists, nazi's and so forth.
The only witch hunt going on here is the anti-SJWs demanding that heads roll for this outrage.
Really? Having just skimmed the comments minus AC's, that doesn't look to be true. Looks like there's a bunch of anti-SJW's who are getting tired that assholes are offended over words and demand people bow to their views though. On the other hand, the people in support of this going by various SJW heavy platforms and social media are ALL for doxxing and harassing the developers.
Then again, one only has to remember that "words are violence" in the land of progressive thought. So I can see where you'd get "demanding heads roll for this outrage" is coming from, not that it doesn't make progressives look like they can't function in a normal society.
You don't see the irony in crying your eyes out about PC'ers? Lol you anti-PC'ers are just as bad, in reverse. You ARE the problem YOU cry about! Nobody has a gun to your head, crybaby faggots.
No? Never heard of Lindsay Shepard? She's the TA who was a Wilfrid Laurier a couple of years ago and showed a clip of Jordan Peterson to her class as part of contrasting between two points of view, and two professors including her supervisor falsely invented a complaint against in order to force her "into line" with their line of thinking. Not only that, but they threatened her with "human rights" complaints, and threatened to contact the crown and have her criminally charged with inciting hatred.
Those politically correct people, their supporters, and so on? They held a gun to her head, and went out of their way in an attempt to intimidate her. The only reason that her academic career wasn't fully ruined is that she was smart enough to record it and exposed their intimidation and threats. She's not the first one, she's not the last one. Donglegate, Tim Hunt, Matt Taylor, and the hundreds of others who've had that metaphorical gun to their head for not "not being politically correct" enough exist.
Oh boy, we haven't even started yet.