Why do you think that people are not entitled to their opinion? The irony is that you complain about 'political correctness' while complaining viciously about 'other people's language'. I can only come to the conclusion that they aren't 'politically correct' for your tastes
In reality, what you seem to think are earnest 'self righteous' (let me use the word you almost said) 'Social Justice Warriors', are simply a new version of trolls.
They're welcome to their opinion. Though their viewpoints end when they decide that their version of letting other speak, doesn't exist. The thing is, they're not trolls. They see themselves as "doing the right thing" or "the right side of history." You'll find that many of those SJW's subscribe to the "no bad tactics, only targets" theory of doing things. And would rather shut down any speech that's contrary to their narrow viewpoint on the world. See the university protests for example, or pulling fire alarms to stop people from speaking, or the most recent examples of no-platforming BS with Rutgers with Milo Yiannopoulos. Or Dawkins, Peter Tatchell, or Julie Bindel and so on. That's only a small sampling of the BS going on. And all the while, they're engaging in overt racism, such as safe spaces...for anyone but those whites or asians. Any place except for those hetrosexuals...or gays that don't do what we tell them, and so on. That moves them from trolls right into authoritarians.
People just see the writing on the wall with Twitter, the second they put a bunch of groups in place that have a history of shutting down speech because it hurts their feelings, or the feelings of other people it was enough. Especially groups that believe that dissenting viewpoints are harassment like Feminist Frequency.
The main reason a -admittedly good-looking- female friend of mine doesn't have a degree in CS
So, she's the type that blames everyone else for her own failings. Gotcha. "Omg those drooling women are the reason that I never got my nursing/teaching degree..."
Yeah those laughable arguments also included making sure that video games are a viable medium, and granted them 1st amendment protections under the law. You know, when Hillary Clinton, Tipper Gore, and company were all railing against them as "the evils causing kids to do bad things..." along with music.
Every year, without fail, I get at least one whole bus of Canadians coming up my driveway. On GPS, and many years ago it was one, it appears to be a road. It looks like a nice little shortcut up and over the mountain that brings you back in on another road that brings you back to the main road. The bus is full of Canadians looking at foliage. We'll get back to that...
There's a lot of roads here in Ontario like that, and without fail every year there a group of Americans following their GPS that go down it, and get stuck in 10" of mud. Haven't had problems with buses in ~15 years with the roads near here, but cars that's another problem. The tow trucks make a good bit of money pulling the cars out. The problem of course is that county maps marked them as passable roads...20 years or even 40 years ago. GPS makers just grab the maps and go on their way, they haven't been in use for at least that long. In some cases, the roads were built when they were laying pipelines and so on.
Get out in western Canada, where the roads have been moved and it's even better. You can see roads 200-800ft off where the GPS is and you'll get someone who drives off into the ditch.
As for getting the GPS map information changed? Good luck. The only solution around here with the worst cases is to string up a couple of steel poles in cement, drop 2 or 3 chains with either a chunk of yellow or orange tubing with reflectors on it. It was even worse when I was living up north, and you've got motorists who've followed their GPS and ended up 10-20 miles in the middle of no-where, and their cars are suddenly stuck in 20-30" of snow. Then you'd get the RCMP or OPP asking for people to go out and search, or simply call you up to go rescue them because they don't have anyone else that can do it. Occasionally their cars get left there for the winter, because no one is risking their truck or tractor to go pull it out.
The place where News Corporations money went to die?
It's the place where every company that's bought them, went to die. News Corp is just one of many...the vultures already circle the building, and the managers can be heard screaming "bring out your dead programmers..."
Yep, and they're starting to hemorrhage users. Lot of theories floating around on financial forums and blogs that Jack is doing this deliberately to tank twitter so it can be bought out by someone. There are a few problems with that idea for twitter in general, there have been no takers. The tech market bubble is now popping...again...and there are a lot of people in the SF tech triangle that are no longer getting VC money, and they're worried. It's all dried up in the last few weeks as the stock market starts to enter into correction territory.
She's saying that the approach in the clip you posted isn't ACTUALLY a useful way to approach issues (and how awful she was when she was acting like that.) She makes it very clear that she doesn't approve of the approach you're ascribing to her.
The large number of un-banned anti-feminists proves that criticism women's rights isn't a banable offence.
And that doesn't stop them from forcing people to delete tweets that they find objectionable, like pointing out their logical fallacies. But twitter's "harassment team" is fine with stuff from Jessica Valenti or Andrea Dworkin's screaming "kill all men" or writing about how they'd other things to happen.
Lucky for you. Terrible weather is pretty much the norm for anywhere around the great lakes(and some parts of the Canadian and US plains) you can have days like this in the winter: 9pm last night, clear as can be. 10pm 3cm of snow on the road with visibility under 25m and unable to see the lines at all. Or in the summer, regular downpour can't see the lines. Don't worry, they'll be repainted around September...
If you're relying on reflective paint, what about fallen trees, deer, pot holes, other debris and road users not coated in reflective paint? If someone is using the road and relying on the lines to keep them on the route, then they are using the road unsafely.
Apparently you've never driven in Ontario or Michigan. You're lucky if you just get reflective paint, hell in rainy weather you're lucky if you can even see your own lane.
Yeah, she's no different then Jack Thompson...except for her gender. Which get's her a free pass where any criticism is labeled has harassment.
Note that she doesn't need to offer "proof" for her opinion that portraying women (and men) better in games is the right thing to do. She is a feminist, her position is backed up by decades of feminist theory, and you can debate it all you like. She isn't making a falsifiable hypothesis, she is stating an opinion based on a large body of widely accepted philosophical work.
No, she needs to offer proof. The second she claimed she wanted to make the series to be included in the classroom and for educational purpose. And the second she decided that she wanted to go speak before crowds. She's wants to spew her stuff, but doesn't want anyone to turn around and call her out on her bullshit.
Consumers, like any other demands/requests for content in games. If you think they and the people who listen to them don't represent enough of your market share to care, then you can feel free to ignore them. Although funny enough, those with actual money and marketing research seem to think it is more important to listen than those that want to make up statistics from their mother's basement.
Well we've seen that already. Women make up the vast majority of the casual market, feminists whine and complain that the non-casual market which is primarily male dominated doesn't cater to their needs. Looks like the situation is working out fine and marketing and research departments are doing a good job of realizing that. So why is it that feminists and sjw's who in general don't play those games, want to shove stuff down everyone elses throats?
If they really wanted to, they could make their own game and see how well it holds up under public scrutiny. My guess? Dismal failures much like the various walking simulators and games like Gone Home(note the disconnect between reviewers and gamers).
Well considering she's the one claiming it's 100% one way. Never mind all those fashion magazines, or romance novels either. She's just another scam artist, the fact that she refuses to debate anyone even when offered 5 figures or the donation of that money to the charity of her choice should tell you a lot. Even Jack Thompson would debate people after he was called out. He looked like an idiot, but that's more then what she's done.
She has some very good points though. It's funny to watch the videos with all the male characters having strategic butt coverings, but not female characters.
People overreact though, "raawr, she wants to change my game very slightly!" And GG had some very repulsive actors in it, they don't know how to debate so they decide to send threats.
Sure thing,lots of death threats there. You of course realize it's not a slightly. How's that Fire Emblem censorship going? SFV? GTA5? Those claims that gamers just "being localized" and all that(except of course when it's something they like...like steven universe then it's censorship)? If she actually gave a shit on anything she said, she'd make her own games and let the market decide if they're worth anything or not. But nope, she'd rather run to the UN and claim that criticism is harassment. And being told to prove her arguments is harassment.
That doesn't stop them from crying about xyz being the new moral panic. Then again, some of them are just out for the sweet victim buxs like Anita Sarkeesian, others are out to make a name for themselves like Tipper Gore, and others think it's their job to save everyone like Jack Thompson.
Tell that to the victims of abortion clinic bombings.
I can't even remember one of those happening here in Canada, and if I remember right the last one in the US happened almost 30 years ago. They were ostracized and called batshit insane by the Christians even the crack-pot Christians.
Muslims though? You hear a blip here and there, like the organizational leader of a group of mosques here in Canada saying all mosques should be under surveillance and so on. And then you hear the rest of them going nope, we're fine...followed up by chanting god is great and then send some 14 year old off to join a terrorist organization.
right...because universities are strictly liberal institutions..... I have a feeling you haven't been to one yourself recently, if ever.
Organizations like The FIRE and CampusWatch don't exist because it's conservatives lining up and restricting your speech. Or because those evil conservatives are trying to block or protect people to express their opinions in a public place.
Sadly, the piece of paper from UW says otherwise. And the last time I was there, it of course being a STEM university, this shit hadn't started infiltrating it yet. Though if I wonder into York or Toronto, it's everywhere.
and the dude's shirt WAS sexist. if you don't why here in the 21st century, that's your deficiency.
So you're saying that a women who designed the shirt is sexist because she's an artist, and that's her artistic medium? Maybe the problem is you, and you're wish and desire to be offended at anything that hurts your sensibilities. Why do you believe that women need to be coddled like delicate flowers?
It was inappropriate and I would never had heard about the "shirt" if it wasn't for MRAs spending so much of their time complaining that they were offended that someone else somewhere else was offended by the shirt.
Too bad it wasn't the MRA's complaining about how they were offended that started it right? It was the rabid feminists, and the rabid feminists in the press that did.
That was a (maybe not-so) tragic lesson for both the guy and the woman who got fired. She made a big deal over nothing, the company fired the one developer because he embarrassed the company and they already wanted to fire him (a sane employer wouldn't fire a good employee over a single minor incident), and the woman got fired for the backlash her actions caused (and rightly so, she deliberately and publicly made a fuss over a private conversation).
Ah so you've go the inside track as to why they fired him? That should be easy for you to provide sources. Oh and a company wouldn't fire someone over something like that? Or did you forget that most places in the US it's "at will employment." Meaning being fired for something that trivial and even less trivial happens a lot more then you'd think.
So I guess what I'm saying is if these are your biggest grievances, you should spend more time thinking about how good things must be for you, because if these pathetic examples of injustice are the biggest problems facing you, you don't have any problems at all.
Oh, but no mention on the no-platform stuff? Or student unions going after students for refusing to follow the group think? Or the press in general spouting off at the hip with the same garbage. Like why air conditioning is sexist, or why if you don't vote for hillary you're a misogynist. Seems to me, you're right on the cusp of figuring out that there's a serious problem with a segment of the left, but you're hoping it'll go away before you have to call it out for being batshit insane.
Actually no, on the left we say: Live and let everybody else live.
All those "rules" you hate, they are what "let everybody else" live LOOKS like - breaking them KILLS people.
Had a look at modern university in the last 10 years? How's those 'free speech' zones going, how about all those universities engaging in censorship and student unions -- especially leftist student unions that actively engage in censorship. No platform policies? Yep, how about those folks that are driven out or fired from their job because someone doesn't like a joke, or because on their own private time they support something that a group of people don't like. Or start screaming that xyz is sexist/racist/ect, and the person should be fired. That's also coming from the left. How about the "if you don't vote for Hillary you're a misogynist."
Land a probe on a comet? Fuck no, your shirt is sexist. Yep the progressives and SJWs strikes again. Two dudes joking over dongles? That's rape culture.
Sure are "live and let live" on the left these days...
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Why do you think that people are not entitled to their opinion? The irony is that you complain about 'political correctness' while complaining viciously about 'other people's language'. I can only come to the conclusion that they aren't 'politically correct' for your tastes
In reality, what you seem to think are earnest 'self righteous' (let me use the word you almost said) 'Social Justice Warriors', are simply a new version of trolls.
They're welcome to their opinion. Though their viewpoints end when they decide that their version of letting other speak, doesn't exist. The thing is, they're not trolls. They see themselves as "doing the right thing" or "the right side of history." You'll find that many of those SJW's subscribe to the "no bad tactics, only targets" theory of doing things. And would rather shut down any speech that's contrary to their narrow viewpoint on the world. See the university protests for example, or pulling fire alarms to stop people from speaking, or the most recent examples of no-platforming BS with Rutgers with Milo Yiannopoulos. Or Dawkins, Peter Tatchell, or Julie Bindel and so on. That's only a small sampling of the BS going on. And all the while, they're engaging in overt racism, such as safe spaces...for anyone but those whites or asians. Any place except for those hetrosexuals...or gays that don't do what we tell them, and so on. That moves them from trolls right into authoritarians.
People just see the writing on the wall with Twitter, the second they put a bunch of groups in place that have a history of shutting down speech because it hurts their feelings, or the feelings of other people it was enough. Especially groups that believe that dissenting viewpoints are harassment like Feminist Frequency.
The main reason a -admittedly good-looking- female friend of mine doesn't have a degree in CS
So, she's the type that blames everyone else for her own failings. Gotcha. "Omg those drooling women are the reason that I never got my nursing/teaching degree..."
Reminder mods, just because you like the idiot doesn't mean she isn't a pro-authoritarian pos. This is the idiot in question. And still the idiot in question And still some more idiot in question. All along with the help of this idiot.
Ah yes, political hacks so upset because someone doesn't make decisions exactly the way that they want.
Yeah those laughable arguments also included making sure that video games are a viable medium, and granted them 1st amendment protections under the law. You know, when Hillary Clinton, Tipper Gore, and company were all railing against them as "the evils causing kids to do bad things..." along with music.
Every year, without fail, I get at least one whole bus of Canadians coming up my driveway. On GPS, and many years ago it was one, it appears to be a road. It looks like a nice little shortcut up and over the mountain that brings you back in on another road that brings you back to the main road. The bus is full of Canadians looking at foliage. We'll get back to that...
There's a lot of roads here in Ontario like that, and without fail every year there a group of Americans following their GPS that go down it, and get stuck in 10" of mud. Haven't had problems with buses in ~15 years with the roads near here, but cars that's another problem. The tow trucks make a good bit of money pulling the cars out. The problem of course is that county maps marked them as passable roads...20 years or even 40 years ago. GPS makers just grab the maps and go on their way, they haven't been in use for at least that long. In some cases, the roads were built when they were laying pipelines and so on.
Get out in western Canada, where the roads have been moved and it's even better. You can see roads 200-800ft off where the GPS is and you'll get someone who drives off into the ditch.
As for getting the GPS map information changed? Good luck. The only solution around here with the worst cases is to string up a couple of steel poles in cement, drop 2 or 3 chains with either a chunk of yellow or orange tubing with reflectors on it. It was even worse when I was living up north, and you've got motorists who've followed their GPS and ended up 10-20 miles in the middle of no-where, and their cars are suddenly stuck in 20-30" of snow. Then you'd get the RCMP or OPP asking for people to go out and search, or simply call you up to go rescue them because they don't have anyone else that can do it. Occasionally their cars get left there for the winter, because no one is risking their truck or tractor to go pull it out.
The place where News Corporations money went to die?
It's the place where every company that's bought them, went to die. News Corp is just one of many...the vultures already circle the building, and the managers can be heard screaming "bring out your dead programmers..."
Yep, and they're starting to hemorrhage users. Lot of theories floating around on financial forums and blogs that Jack is doing this deliberately to tank twitter so it can be bought out by someone. There are a few problems with that idea for twitter in general, there have been no takers. The tech market bubble is now popping...again...and there are a lot of people in the SF tech triangle that are no longer getting VC money, and they're worried. It's all dried up in the last few weeks as the stock market starts to enter into correction territory.
She's saying that the approach in the clip you posted isn't ACTUALLY a useful way to approach issues (and how awful she was when she was acting like that.) She makes it very clear that she doesn't approve of the approach you're ascribing to her.
I'm just going to snip that down and point out, that she does indeed agree that's the way to approach issues. And in not only with her other speeches, but in what she tweets out via FF she subscribes to that idea. This should help give you a very brief synopsis that she was lying through her teeth when she said "but I don't really believe that..."
The large number of un-banned anti-feminists proves that criticism women's rights isn't a banable offence.
And that doesn't stop them from forcing people to delete tweets that they find objectionable, like pointing out their logical fallacies. But twitter's "harassment team" is fine with stuff from Jessica Valenti or Andrea Dworkin's screaming "kill all men" or writing about how they'd other things to happen.
Lucky for you. Terrible weather is pretty much the norm for anywhere around the great lakes(and some parts of the Canadian and US plains) you can have days like this in the winter: 9pm last night, clear as can be. 10pm 3cm of snow on the road with visibility under 25m and unable to see the lines at all. Or in the summer, regular downpour can't see the lines. Don't worry, they'll be repainted around September...
I used it to show what you REALLY WERE saying.
Feel free to go look up the entire context of that, I'll await as you prove yourself to be as ignorant as your comment is.
If you're relying on reflective paint, what about fallen trees, deer, pot holes, other debris and road users not coated in reflective paint? If someone is using the road and relying on the lines to keep them on the route, then they are using the road unsafely.
Apparently you've never driven in Ontario or Michigan. You're lucky if you just get reflective paint, hell in rainy weather you're lucky if you can even see your own lane.
Looks like the old /. is coming back. Dupe articles are a good start...I think.
I wish people would watch Sarkeesian's videos (or read the transcripts) before making assumptions about what she says.
You mean the part where she says that "everything is sexist, everything is racist, everything is homophobic" or the part where she starts whining because it doesn't cater to her political ideology and she gets upset over it and goes running to the UN?
Yeah, she's no different then Jack Thompson...except for her gender. Which get's her a free pass where any criticism is labeled has harassment.
Note that she doesn't need to offer "proof" for her opinion that portraying women (and men) better in games is the right thing to do. She is a feminist, her position is backed up by decades of feminist theory, and you can debate it all you like. She isn't making a falsifiable hypothesis, she is stating an opinion based on a large body of widely accepted philosophical work.
No, she needs to offer proof. The second she claimed she wanted to make the series to be included in the classroom and for educational purpose. And the second she decided that she wanted to go speak before crowds. She's wants to spew her stuff, but doesn't want anyone to turn around and call her out on her bullshit.
Consumers, like any other demands/requests for content in games. If you think they and the people who listen to them don't represent enough of your market share to care, then you can feel free to ignore them. Although funny enough, those with actual money and marketing research seem to think it is more important to listen than those that want to make up statistics from their mother's basement.
Well we've seen that already. Women make up the vast majority of the casual market, feminists whine and complain that the non-casual market which is primarily male dominated doesn't cater to their needs. Looks like the situation is working out fine and marketing and research departments are doing a good job of realizing that. So why is it that feminists and sjw's who in general don't play those games, want to shove stuff down everyone elses throats?
If they really wanted to, they could make their own game and see how well it holds up under public scrutiny. My guess? Dismal failures much like the various walking simulators and games like Gone Home(note the disconnect between reviewers and gamers).
Well considering she's the one claiming it's 100% one way. Never mind all those fashion magazines, or romance novels either. She's just another scam artist, the fact that she refuses to debate anyone even when offered 5 figures or the donation of that money to the charity of her choice should tell you a lot. Even Jack Thompson would debate people after he was called out. He looked like an idiot, but that's more then what she's done.
She has some very good points though. It's funny to watch the videos with all the male characters having strategic butt coverings, but not female characters.
You don't play very many video games huh? Sure is strategic butt covering in here.
People overreact though, "raawr, she wants to change my game very slightly!" And GG had some very repulsive actors in it, they don't know how to debate so they decide to send threats.
Sure thing, lots of death threats there. You of course realize it's not a slightly. How's that Fire Emblem censorship going? SFV? GTA5? Those claims that gamers just "being localized" and all that(except of course when it's something they like...like steven universe then it's censorship)? If she actually gave a shit on anything she said, she'd make her own games and let the market decide if they're worth anything or not. But nope, she'd rather run to the UN and claim that criticism is harassment. And being told to prove her arguments is harassment.
Uh-huh. And which one went running to the UN trying to get criticism declared harassment.
That doesn't stop them from crying about xyz being the new moral panic. Then again, some of them are just out for the sweet victim buxs like Anita Sarkeesian, others are out to make a name for themselves like Tipper Gore, and others think it's their job to save everyone like Jack Thompson.
But think about the weight loss benefits!
Tell that to the victims of abortion clinic bombings.
I can't even remember one of those happening here in Canada, and if I remember right the last one in the US happened almost 30 years ago. They were ostracized and called batshit insane by the Christians even the crack-pot Christians.
Muslims though? You hear a blip here and there, like the organizational leader of a group of mosques here in Canada saying all mosques should be under surveillance and so on. And then you hear the rest of them going nope, we're fine...followed up by chanting god is great and then send some 14 year old off to join a terrorist organization.
right...because universities are strictly liberal institutions.....
I have a feeling you haven't been to one yourself recently, if ever.
Organizations like The FIRE and CampusWatch don't exist because it's conservatives lining up and restricting your speech. Or because those evil conservatives are trying to block or protect people to express their opinions in a public place.
Sadly, the piece of paper from UW says otherwise. And the last time I was there, it of course being a STEM university, this shit hadn't started infiltrating it yet. Though if I wonder into York or Toronto, it's everywhere.
and the dude's shirt WAS sexist.
if you don't why here in the 21st century, that's your deficiency.
So you're saying that a women who designed the shirt is sexist because she's an artist, and that's her artistic medium? Maybe the problem is you, and you're wish and desire to be offended at anything that hurts your sensibilities. Why do you believe that women need to be coddled like delicate flowers?
It was inappropriate and I would never had heard about the "shirt" if it wasn't for MRAs spending so much of their time complaining that they were offended that someone else somewhere else was offended by the shirt.
Too bad it wasn't the MRA's complaining about how they were offended that started it right? It was the rabid feminists, and the rabid feminists in the press that did.
That was a (maybe not-so) tragic lesson for both the guy and the woman who got fired. She made a big deal over nothing, the company fired the one developer because he embarrassed the company and they already wanted to fire him (a sane employer wouldn't fire a good employee over a single minor incident), and the woman got fired for the backlash her actions caused (and rightly so, she deliberately and publicly made a fuss over a private conversation).
Ah so you've go the inside track as to why they fired him? That should be easy for you to provide sources. Oh and a company wouldn't fire someone over something like that? Or did you forget that most places in the US it's "at will employment." Meaning being fired for something that trivial and even less trivial happens a lot more then you'd think.
So I guess what I'm saying is if these are your biggest grievances, you should spend more time thinking about how good things must be for you, because if these pathetic examples of injustice are the biggest problems facing you, you don't have any problems at all.
Oh, but no mention on the no-platform stuff? Or student unions going after students for refusing to follow the group think? Or the press in general spouting off at the hip with the same garbage. Like why air conditioning is sexist, or why if you don't vote for hillary you're a misogynist. Seems to me, you're right on the cusp of figuring out that there's a serious problem with a segment of the left, but you're hoping it'll go away before you have to call it out for being batshit insane.
Actually no, on the left we say: Live and let everybody else live.
All those "rules" you hate, they are what "let everybody else" live LOOKS like - breaking them KILLS people.
Had a look at modern university in the last 10 years? How's those 'free speech' zones going, how about all those universities engaging in censorship and student unions -- especially leftist student unions that actively engage in censorship. No platform policies? Yep, how about those folks that are driven out or fired from their job because someone doesn't like a joke, or because on their own private time they support something that a group of people don't like. Or start screaming that xyz is sexist/racist/ect, and the person should be fired. That's also coming from the left. How about the "if you don't vote for Hillary you're a misogynist."
Land a probe on a comet? Fuck no, your shirt is sexist. Yep the progressives and SJWs strikes again. Two dudes joking over dongles? That's rape culture.
Sure are "live and let live" on the left these days...