And human laziness has never succeeded in winning out vs the 2 minutes to boil a kettle. Good to know, you should let local governments know when they warn people not to use water from a hot water tank that doesn't actually reach a point that it kills bacteria.
No, that's the right answer. Regulation in general works in a negative way, especially in countries where a company can simply close up shop, export the job production and continue selling in that same country.
Of course... and the solution to this is to start actually paying people fairly, not to compound the problem by not paying them right just because it might cause a momentary dip in the highest paid's bottom line who could afford it anyways. In the long run, the improvements in productivity that result from better wages more than make up for the financial losses. Ford figured that out a century ago.
And how do you determine what is "fair" to pay a person for their labor? Right, and that's your wrong answer wrapped up into a tidy bundle. The theory your proposing hasn't worked out anywhere at all, and in fact acts in a negative fashion.
So you're proposing that these things be forced upon people, governments entire populations and so on? How very...authoritarian of you. Any relation to Mao?
So...the UN didn't author Agenda 21? Am I in an alternate timeline again? Why not go read the 300 page document, and then compare the things listed, suggested, or should be imposed against actions of various governments over that same time period. Sure there's some good things in it, but then there's the government policies that act in a coercive manner to force them through. Which of course moves it out of the realm of UN mandated conspiracy theories.
Politics does not plan for that long...
Brilliant ignorance, most countries have 50-100 year plans. China being a bit odd out has 200-300 year plans.
No, the threat is real and imminent. People like you just demonstrate why it will likely be the end of the human race.
So, you're all in favor of imposing structure, order, and governance on say Africa in order to make it into the bread basket of the world, while forcibly modernizing their societies to make them more environmentally friendly? How about the same for many countries in South America?
Thing is, "feeding the fattiest part of the cows" back to cattle was known as a bad idea for centuries. You can see it in older farm literature and so on with cattle having those symptoms. It's kinda like retroactively looking back through old medical reports from 150 years ago, when you see thing like "bad air" "swamp gas" and so on, and people suddenly realize that it wasn't either case but things like malaria. Anyway, ask yourself why it became such a big thing to do...mainly starting back in the 1980's. Give you a hint, but it was because governments lowered regulations allowing it due to demands from companies engaged in the factory farm business. This was right around the time that those factory farms started demanding that pickers, and so on should only be paid by weight and not hourly. Anyone who say picked tobacco, fruit, or whatnot back in the 1980's can remember that amazingly swift change all across the board, then the cries of "but we CAN'T find anyone who wants to work for $28/day. So we HAVE to import labor."
To be honest? Genetic engineering of livestock will likely be the next frontier, much like the "green revolution" back 40-50 years ago. Thing is, can you get the stupid people and environmentalist groups to stop crying over GMO crops, livestock, and so on, making up bullshit and letting millions of people starve to death in some type of malthusian fantasy and believing that they're good people because of it? Cause that's one of the real problems right now. Greenpeace for example would rather people be blind, or die of starvation.
Minimum wage hikes do cost some jobs, but most people who get laid off find employment again within 6 months, and for minimum wage workers, at a better rate of pay on account of the minimum wage hike.
In theory those people find work. But look to the US, where people were unemployed so long they fell right off the official stats. Here in Ontario, we've shed nearly 400k good paying middle income jobs because of the policies of the previous government. The anti-manufacturing, pro-service industry crap hurt a lot of people.
Or do you think that it's right to pay people that work full time hours anything less than a wage that is enough to actually live on?
That depends. The problem right now is that wages haven't kept pace with inflation like they have in the past. Wages in the US for example were so flat that some people who were employed 15 years ago are now just seeing their wages outpace inflation. Round it out that companies like amazon are deliberately deflating wages, and act in a way to stop people from unionizing for sample is far more serious then say raising the minimum wage.
Tell it to the 60k people in Ontario who lost their job when the minimum wage was increased by $2.40/hr. Ontario bumped it's min. wage from $11.60 to $14/hr in one year, the estimates...estimates were 60k jobs lost by 2019. The reality was so much worse, you can find the usual sites like vox, vice, huffpo all falling over themselves that min. wage hikes really don't kill jobs. The fact that Ontario accounted for 68% of all jobs lost in Canada tells a different story, speaking of which out of those 60k people who lost their jobs? Most are still unemployed 9ish months later. Round it out that job growth is flat, and companies are finding it more cost competitive to operate in the US then Canada even with the 30% difference between the CAD and USD.
Wait what? What country has such liability laws actually enforceable and doesn't have clean drinking water throughout the building? I am guessing you aren't talking about the US?
You can have clean drinking water in a building, entering the building, and so on. Hot water tanks on the other hand, can become contaminated through a primary source such as an overflow pressure valve. When the valve pops, if there's airborne legionaries it will grow towards the heat source if it's "not quite hot enough" in order to kill it. The valves aren't microbial tight by any stretch, they use either a neoprene ring or hard rubber ring for a sealing surface.
Once they're inside the tank, they'll feed and breed off of whatever materials the can. And nice "hot" water, but not boiling water is a perfect environment. Condenser coils for AC units are also another great source for it. Every couple of years before they started using HEPA filters and electrostatic air cleaners, you'd hear about some office building, or apartment building that had a building AC unit having some type of outbreak. You don't see it very much here in western countries, but other places? Yep.
Traditionally English plumbing had open topped hot water tanks mounted high in the building.
Which is why British hot water is often not potable, just for washing.
This isn't the problem though. Remember all those complaints of kids getting scalded and burned from hot water? And the elderly as well? Was all over the news a decade and a bit ago. Well companies installing new hot water tanks, would lower the temperature because of it. Enough so, that legionaries would become a problem. You actually run across this problem from time-to-time in nursing homes still. Back in the last few years, they've been telling people to increase the temperature or not use hot water for mixing hot drinks.
This wasn't a 'brit' problem, it was a north american problem.
Right, this is why we are reading about home outbreaks of legionairres on a daily basis. Oh that's right, we're not.
If you're going to post about theoretical problems that don't exist, why bother to comment?
You don't? That's funny. Why don't you go look up your local PUC, or water supplier and see what they say about requirements for temperature of water and health. I'll wait.
This isn't a theoretical problem, you're just that ignorant.
Yes. I and I comprehend enough to note that I read one of the dumbest claims I've had to read so far.
That's funny, why don't you go hit up the current environmental impact assessments regarding various deployments of HVDC stations in Europe. You'll find them on say wikipedia, through secondary links. When you read them, and get back to me. You should figure out where the dumbest claim is coming from, and it's not from the person that knows what they're talking about.
A HVDC costs around 30% more then a HVAC system, but has lower overall costs and recoups the 30% cost within the first 5 years in most cases. A government can be 100% behind something and be 100% stymied by regulations, courts, and court challenges. There's actually one case right now with a planned deployment, and people arguing that EM radiation from it will cause cancer 70km away.
But the increasing demand can only be accounted for by new AC installations. Anything old would be existing and already part of the load prior to the increase in demand that's prompting new powerplant construction.
"New" is relative. If I sell you a 10 year old system with a mnfg, date of 2006, but a retrofit stamp of 2017. That's still new, that's legal too, and if I give you a 8 year warranty instead of 2 years, with a 40% cut on maintenance costs? See how this works yet?
Unless you're implying that there are warehouses full of 10+ year old AC units they're clearing out for all those new installations...
I'm not implying, there are. Back here in North America and Europe during the big "efficiency" craze, companies that sold less efficient systems did one of two things: Scrapped them and wrote them off as a loss, or warehoused them until the market was ripe then sold them with minor retrofits to 3rd world countries over the last decade.
Your idea about costs of solar panels are completely outdated.
Completely outdated. Sure. Which is why I go look at the FiT rate in Germany, I find that the per-unit cost that they currently pay is around double the cost for the consumer to buy. Hmm...look at that massive subsidy in order to make something inefficient make money.
Oh, want to know what happens when governments say "no more FiT programs"? The price of electricity starts to drop...oh and generally for the ones that currently exist in say germany? They were mainly put into service back over the last 15 years or so. They degrade between 0.5% and 5% per year, some of those chinese panels and so on over the last decade that became so popular? 11% in the first year, 3% the following year with an efficiency rating of 50-60% after a decade. Good luck on the warranty, since those companies have long since gone out of business too.
The most savings you had if old ACs would be replaced by new ones: in the developed world!!
Great! So, in a developing country where a 1st world AC unit will run say $780k-1.8m, and drive up the rental price by 50%, people will obviously flock to that building right? Especially when the building on the other side of town uses a far less efficient version, but has a lower rental price because the cost of electricity is lower and in the long term costs less per unit.
That is nonsense. They cost exactly the same.
No, they don't. The price of electricity for example is a good gauge for this. If the system is cheaper you're not paying as much for maintenance because it doesn't require the specialists. With a lower cost per kWh, rounded out with tax benefits you can come out a head.
You don't know? Why even bother to comment. Evaporation coolers and condensers are a breeding ground for legionaires. We've even seen this in data centers that use a 2-phase cooling system. In buildings, this becomes a problem because companies lower the temprature for hot water so it doesn't become a liability. i.e. people don't burn themselves, but in turn they do stupid things like using hot tap water to make themselves hot drinks.
So people simply die in the gulag (because dead bodies don't countt, and it keeps the ledgers clean) yet youir grandfather managed to spend 20 years in one.
No they don't "simply die" they're either killed because it's more expedient, a favorite of the old USSR especially with politically dangerous but unknown to the wider world. That's then labeled a "natural death" because as we all know, because hypothermia is a natural death. And the people who survived gulags did so were kept alive because of three things: Examples. They were incarcerated close enough to the fall of the USSR. Made themselves invaluable despite their "crimes" against the state.
Don't you see a little contradiction there?
No. He survived because, he was smart. He ran a black market(even the guards bought from him), and he made himself somewhat valuable because of the remote location and his ability for engine repair they didn't have to dispatch someone else to do repairs on equipment. That didn't stop the commisars from ordering that every finger and thumb joint be broken, or both of his wrists a week from his release date. Or the fact for his release, he was specifically sent to east germany and put in a factory where he couldn't work - he was put there as an example and a warning.
Transmission shouldn't be an issue at all. It's the placement of HVDC conversion stations and the building of transmission towers that's the problem in Europe's case. The amount of regulation, red tape, environmental impact studies, court challenges, and so on are the only things slowing these things down.
Solar works great in Germany. In fact Germany is fifth in installed solar capacity.
But it doesn't, it's highly inefficient. The reason they produce as much as they do, is because rooftops everywhere are pretty much covered with PV cells. The cost to recoup the initial costs are over a period of 20-30 years(the pv panel life is around 25 years). This is pretty much the same as in Canada for instance, and one of the reasons why "green energy" like windmills and solar make next to no sense since they have to be heavily subsidized by the government to break even.
If you want to reduce coal consumption, the best, most cost effective, and politically acceptable solution, is better ACs.
ACs are about as good as they can get right now, especially in developing countries. A 3 times cost of energy in per unit to cool is acceptable because a more efficient system costs 15x per unit more. Beyond that, it becomes a building/structure issue to retain the cold/resist heat. Problem though, much like we've found here in North America where there are huge and wild swings in temperature(-30C to +35C) for instance, the more you make a building air tight, the higher the chance that people develop respiratory issues, and in worst cases nasty crap like legionaries starts breeding in the HVAC system.
Is "he" the one doing the suppressing, or is he the one being suppressed? Logic tells me he can't be both.
If you vote in a political party that holds in it's platform a desire to repress and control speech, you are complicit in suppressing the viewpoints of others. He, being a citizen of the UK - has stated that he agrees with speech suppression, and going further stated that said ruling class of the UK didn't "go far enough, and he desired to emigrate to another country to impose harsher rules."
Sure, try the UK, Sweden, and Germany. All of which banned political parties.
Oh, I think I get where you're coming from. What a cute little way for a racist to call attention to the inherent criminality of "particular races"
Oh look at the bigot. So you're arguing that the inquires that stated that the police, crown, and councils didn't cover up crimes by particular groups of people for fear of being labeled racist in the UK? Are you also arguing that the government under merkel didn't do the same to the federal german police? They did just a FYI, they still haven't caught the leaker either. Are you saying that the same thing didn't happen in Sweden and the Netherlands? It did, the one in NDL was caught and arrested they haven't found the one from Sweden.
Are you saying that in Swedens case they didn't illegally seize a domain, servers, and infrastructure of a person who published this information in order to try and find them? Oh and it was because they'd released "unscrubbed" crime reports listing the background of the person(s) involved but scrubbed of identifiable information.
What a little bitch you are.
I'd rather be a bitch then a coward that's afraid of facts.
It's easy to have low gulag prisoner rates when most people simply die in the gulag(dead bodies don't count, and it keeps the ledgers clean). That's coming from someone who's grandfather spent 20 years in one for refusing to give his cows to "the state" oh and they demanded he provide the same next year.
The EU has more control over the rights of people, and government of signatory states then the Federal government of the US, or Canada has on the control of states or provinces. Pretending that the EU by design isn't meant to force signatories into a "single state" is the reason why there has been such a big backlash against it.
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Yet it turns out fuuucking /pol/ is always right. fuck. I never wanted to end up knowing all this shit.
Even though Microsoft pulled the plug on Tay, she will always love you. Never forget they murdered her.
And human laziness has never succeeded in winning out vs the 2 minutes to boil a kettle. Good to know, you should let local governments know when they warn people not to use water from a hot water tank that doesn't actually reach a point that it kills bacteria.
Wrong answer.
No, that's the right answer. Regulation in general works in a negative way, especially in countries where a company can simply close up shop, export the job production and continue selling in that same country.
Of course... and the solution to this is to start actually paying people fairly, not to compound the problem by not paying them right just because it might cause a momentary dip in the highest paid's bottom line who could afford it anyways. In the long run, the improvements in productivity that result from better wages more than make up for the financial losses. Ford figured that out a century ago.
And how do you determine what is "fair" to pay a person for their labor? Right, and that's your wrong answer wrapped up into a tidy bundle. The theory your proposing hasn't worked out anywhere at all, and in fact acts in a negative fashion.
So you're proposing that these things be forced upon people, governments entire populations and so on? How very...authoritarian of you. Any relation to Mao?
And has been going for 30 years?
So...the UN didn't author Agenda 21? Am I in an alternate timeline again? Why not go read the 300 page document, and then compare the things listed, suggested, or should be imposed against actions of various governments over that same time period. Sure there's some good things in it, but then there's the government policies that act in a coercive manner to force them through. Which of course moves it out of the realm of UN mandated conspiracy theories.
Politics does not plan for that long...
Brilliant ignorance, most countries have 50-100 year plans. China being a bit odd out has 200-300 year plans.
No, the threat is real and imminent. People like you just demonstrate why it will likely be the end of the human race.
So, you're all in favor of imposing structure, order, and governance on say Africa in order to make it into the bread basket of the world, while forcibly modernizing their societies to make them more environmentally friendly? How about the same for many countries in South America?
Thing is, "feeding the fattiest part of the cows" back to cattle was known as a bad idea for centuries. You can see it in older farm literature and so on with cattle having those symptoms. It's kinda like retroactively looking back through old medical reports from 150 years ago, when you see thing like "bad air" "swamp gas" and so on, and people suddenly realize that it wasn't either case but things like malaria. Anyway, ask yourself why it became such a big thing to do...mainly starting back in the 1980's. Give you a hint, but it was because governments lowered regulations allowing it due to demands from companies engaged in the factory farm business. This was right around the time that those factory farms started demanding that pickers, and so on should only be paid by weight and not hourly. Anyone who say picked tobacco, fruit, or whatnot back in the 1980's can remember that amazingly swift change all across the board, then the cries of "but we CAN'T find anyone who wants to work for $28/day. So we HAVE to import labor."
To be honest? Genetic engineering of livestock will likely be the next frontier, much like the "green revolution" back 40-50 years ago. Thing is, can you get the stupid people and environmentalist groups to stop crying over GMO crops, livestock, and so on, making up bullshit and letting millions of people starve to death in some type of malthusian fantasy and believing that they're good people because of it? Cause that's one of the real problems right now. Greenpeace for example would rather people be blind, or die of starvation.
Minimum wage hikes do cost some jobs, but most people who get laid off find employment again within 6 months, and for minimum wage workers, at a better rate of pay on account of the minimum wage hike.
In theory those people find work. But look to the US, where people were unemployed so long they fell right off the official stats. Here in Ontario, we've shed nearly 400k good paying middle income jobs because of the policies of the previous government. The anti-manufacturing, pro-service industry crap hurt a lot of people.
Or do you think that it's right to pay people that work full time hours anything less than a wage that is enough to actually live on?
That depends. The problem right now is that wages haven't kept pace with inflation like they have in the past. Wages in the US for example were so flat that some people who were employed 15 years ago are now just seeing their wages outpace inflation. Round it out that companies like amazon are deliberately deflating wages, and act in a way to stop people from unionizing for sample is far more serious then say raising the minimum wage.
You couldn't be more wrong.
Tell it to the 60k people in Ontario who lost their job when the minimum wage was increased by $2.40/hr. Ontario bumped it's min. wage from $11.60 to $14/hr in one year, the estimates...estimates were 60k jobs lost by 2019. The reality was so much worse, you can find the usual sites like vox, vice, huffpo all falling over themselves that min. wage hikes really don't kill jobs. The fact that Ontario accounted for 68% of all jobs lost in Canada tells a different story, speaking of which out of those 60k people who lost their jobs? Most are still unemployed 9ish months later. Round it out that job growth is flat, and companies are finding it more cost competitive to operate in the US then Canada even with the 30% difference between the CAD and USD.
Yep...just working out really well.
Wait what? What country has such liability laws actually enforceable and doesn't have clean drinking water throughout the building? I am guessing you aren't talking about the US?
You can have clean drinking water in a building, entering the building, and so on. Hot water tanks on the other hand, can become contaminated through a primary source such as an overflow pressure valve. When the valve pops, if there's airborne legionaries it will grow towards the heat source if it's "not quite hot enough" in order to kill it. The valves aren't microbial tight by any stretch, they use either a neoprene ring or hard rubber ring for a sealing surface.
Once they're inside the tank, they'll feed and breed off of whatever materials the can. And nice "hot" water, but not boiling water is a perfect environment. Condenser coils for AC units are also another great source for it. Every couple of years before they started using HEPA filters and electrostatic air cleaners, you'd hear about some office building, or apartment building that had a building AC unit having some type of outbreak. You don't see it very much here in western countries, but other places? Yep.
Traditionally English plumbing had open topped hot water tanks mounted high in the building.
Which is why British hot water is often not potable, just for washing.
This isn't the problem though. Remember all those complaints of kids getting scalded and burned from hot water? And the elderly as well? Was all over the news a decade and a bit ago. Well companies installing new hot water tanks, would lower the temperature because of it. Enough so, that legionaries would become a problem. You actually run across this problem from time-to-time in nursing homes still. Back in the last few years, they've been telling people to increase the temperature or not use hot water for mixing hot drinks.
This wasn't a 'brit' problem, it was a north american problem.
Right, this is why we are reading about home outbreaks of legionairres on a daily basis. Oh that's right, we're not.
If you're going to post about theoretical problems that don't exist, why bother to comment?
You don't? That's funny. Why don't you go look up your local PUC, or water supplier and see what they say about requirements for temperature of water and health. I'll wait.
This isn't a theoretical problem, you're just that ignorant.
Yes. I and I comprehend enough to note that I read one of the dumbest claims I've had to read so far.
That's funny, why don't you go hit up the current environmental impact assessments regarding various deployments of HVDC stations in Europe. You'll find them on say wikipedia, through secondary links. When you read them, and get back to me. You should figure out where the dumbest claim is coming from, and it's not from the person that knows what they're talking about.
A HVDC costs around 30% more then a HVAC system, but has lower overall costs and recoups the 30% cost within the first 5 years in most cases. A government can be 100% behind something and be 100% stymied by regulations, courts, and court challenges. There's actually one case right now with a planned deployment, and people arguing that EM radiation from it will cause cancer 70km away.
But the increasing demand can only be accounted for by new AC installations. Anything old would be existing and already part of the load prior to the increase in demand that's prompting new powerplant construction.
"New" is relative. If I sell you a 10 year old system with a mnfg, date of 2006, but a retrofit stamp of 2017. That's still new, that's legal too, and if I give you a 8 year warranty instead of 2 years, with a 40% cut on maintenance costs? See how this works yet?
Unless you're implying that there are warehouses full of 10+ year old AC units they're clearing out for all those new installations...
I'm not implying, there are. Back here in North America and Europe during the big "efficiency" craze, companies that sold less efficient systems did one of two things: Scrapped them and wrote them off as a loss, or warehoused them until the market was ripe then sold them with minor retrofits to 3rd world countries over the last decade.
Your idea about costs of solar panels are completely outdated.
Completely outdated. Sure. Which is why I go look at the FiT rate in Germany, I find that the per-unit cost that they currently pay is around double the cost for the consumer to buy. Hmm...look at that massive subsidy in order to make something inefficient make money.
Oh, want to know what happens when governments say "no more FiT programs"? The price of electricity starts to drop...oh and generally for the ones that currently exist in say germany? They were mainly put into service back over the last 15 years or so. They degrade between 0.5% and 5% per year, some of those chinese panels and so on over the last decade that became so popular? 11% in the first year, 3% the following year with an efficiency rating of 50-60% after a decade. Good luck on the warranty, since those companies have long since gone out of business too.
The most important and pressing question: Can you read? If so, then you should be able to tell where you went wrong in that reply.
The most savings you had if old ACs would be replaced by new ones: in the developed world!!
Great! So, in a developing country where a 1st world AC unit will run say $780k-1.8m, and drive up the rental price by 50%, people will obviously flock to that building right? Especially when the building on the other side of town uses a far less efficient version, but has a lower rental price because the cost of electricity is lower and in the long term costs less per unit.
That is nonsense. They cost exactly the same.
No, they don't. The price of electricity for example is a good gauge for this. If the system is cheaper you're not paying as much for maintenance because it doesn't require the specialists. With a lower cost per kWh, rounded out with tax benefits you can come out a head.
You don't know? Why even bother to comment. Evaporation coolers and condensers are a breeding ground for legionaires. We've even seen this in data centers that use a 2-phase cooling system. In buildings, this becomes a problem because companies lower the temprature for hot water so it doesn't become a liability. i.e. people don't burn themselves, but in turn they do stupid things like using hot tap water to make themselves hot drinks.
So people simply die in the gulag (because dead bodies don't countt, and it keeps the ledgers clean) yet youir grandfather managed to spend 20 years in one.
No they don't "simply die" they're either killed because it's more expedient, a favorite of the old USSR especially with politically dangerous but unknown to the wider world. That's then labeled a "natural death" because as we all know, because hypothermia is a natural death. And the people who survived gulags did so were kept alive because of three things: Examples. They were incarcerated close enough to the fall of the USSR. Made themselves invaluable despite their "crimes" against the state.
Don't you see a little contradiction there?
No. He survived because, he was smart. He ran a black market(even the guards bought from him), and he made himself somewhat valuable because of the remote location and his ability for engine repair they didn't have to dispatch someone else to do repairs on equipment. That didn't stop the commisars from ordering that every finger and thumb joint be broken, or both of his wrists a week from his release date. Or the fact for his release, he was specifically sent to east germany and put in a factory where he couldn't work - he was put there as an example and a warning.
Transmission shouldn't be an issue at all. It's the placement of HVDC conversion stations and the building of transmission towers that's the problem in Europe's case. The amount of regulation, red tape, environmental impact studies, court challenges, and so on are the only things slowing these things down.
Solar works great in Germany. In fact Germany is fifth in installed solar capacity.
But it doesn't, it's highly inefficient. The reason they produce as much as they do, is because rooftops everywhere are pretty much covered with PV cells. The cost to recoup the initial costs are over a period of 20-30 years(the pv panel life is around 25 years). This is pretty much the same as in Canada for instance, and one of the reasons why "green energy" like windmills and solar make next to no sense since they have to be heavily subsidized by the government to break even.
If you want to reduce coal consumption, the best, most cost effective, and politically acceptable solution, is better ACs.
ACs are about as good as they can get right now, especially in developing countries. A 3 times cost of energy in per unit to cool is acceptable because a more efficient system costs 15x per unit more. Beyond that, it becomes a building/structure issue to retain the cold/resist heat. Problem though, much like we've found here in North America where there are huge and wild swings in temperature(-30C to +35C) for instance, the more you make a building air tight, the higher the chance that people develop respiratory issues, and in worst cases nasty crap like legionaries starts breeding in the HVAC system.
Is "he" the one doing the suppressing, or is he the one being suppressed? Logic tells me he can't be both.
If you vote in a political party that holds in it's platform a desire to repress and control speech, you are complicit in suppressing the viewpoints of others. He, being a citizen of the UK - has stated that he agrees with speech suppression, and going further stated that said ruling class of the UK didn't "go far enough, and he desired to emigrate to another country to impose harsher rules."
Citation needed.
Sure, try the UK, Sweden, and Germany. All of which banned political parties.
Oh, I think I get where you're coming from. What a cute little way for a racist to call attention to the inherent criminality of "particular races"
Oh look at the bigot. So you're arguing that the inquires that stated that the police, crown, and councils didn't cover up crimes by particular groups of people for fear of being labeled racist in the UK? Are you also arguing that the government under merkel didn't do the same to the federal german police? They did just a FYI, they still haven't caught the leaker either. Are you saying that the same thing didn't happen in Sweden and the Netherlands? It did, the one in NDL was caught and arrested they haven't found the one from Sweden.
Are you saying that in Swedens case they didn't illegally seize a domain, servers, and infrastructure of a person who published this information in order to try and find them? Oh and it was because they'd released "unscrubbed" crime reports listing the background of the person(s) involved but scrubbed of identifiable information.
What a little bitch you are.
I'd rather be a bitch then a coward that's afraid of facts.
It's easy to have low gulag prisoner rates when most people simply die in the gulag(dead bodies don't count, and it keeps the ledgers clean). That's coming from someone who's grandfather spent 20 years in one for refusing to give his cows to "the state" oh and they demanded he provide the same next year.
The EU has more control over the rights of people, and government of signatory states then the Federal government of the US, or Canada has on the control of states or provinces. Pretending that the EU by design isn't meant to force signatories into a "single state" is the reason why there has been such a big backlash against it.