Sanctuary cities are just saying, not my jurisdiction, not my problem.
You mean "we're refusing to enforce the law, and implement roadblocks in order to stop you from enforcing the law." Why do you think so many individual cities, counties, towns and so on in California have joined the case of Trump's DOJ on the issue. And California's response to those towns, cities, and counties was to threaten them if they don't fall in line.
Policing is built on the belief that the person making the call is "acting in good faith." Which is why the person being charged for the death of another person isn't the police, but the person acting in bad faith. In this case, the punishment does not fit the crime and should be 2nd degree, 1st degree requires premeditation and they're unlikely to get that. In your world, if an elderly homeowner fell down a flight of stairs, the police wouldn't be able to break in to save them. Nor would they ever respond to active shooting because the person responding is unable to verify it.
So when a police officer gets a call where a person is shooting up a restaurant, you don't want them to respond and use lethal force? You'd be happier until the person killing other people has simply run out of bullets? Or would you be happier that say in the US, in CC state that people can simply shoot the person in the first place?
Which need to go away immediately and forever. Leaving aside the question of whether the death penalty should exist at all; the standard for the state to execute a citizen is supposed to be "proof beyond a reasonable doubt" that the executed. And that's only ever supposed to happen after the due process of a jury trial. Hopped up thugs with the delusion that real life should be a Judge Dredd comic where their word and whim is the law and that trials and juries are unnecessary have no business wearing a badge, or in the service of the public in any capacity.
So, when a police officer is responding to a call about someone shooting a school, you don't want them to respond and to use whatever methods necessary to stop the shooter? Your fundamental understanding of policing is so poor, that I recommend you get off your ass and go volunteer at your local service or office asap.
25 (1) Every one who is required or authorized by law to do anything in the administration or enforcement of the law
(a) as a private person,
(b) as a peace officer or public officer,
(c) in aid of a peace officer or public officer, or
(d) by virtue of his office,
is, if he acts on reasonable grounds, justified in doing what he is required or authorized to do and in using as much force as is necessary for that purpose.
Marginal note:Idem
(2) Where a person is required or authorized by law to execute a process or to carry out a sentence, that person or any person who assists him is, if that person acts in good faith, justified in executing the process or in carrying out the sentence notwithstanding that the process or sentence is defective or that it was issued or imposed without jurisdiction or in excess of jurisdiction.
Marginal note:When not protected
(3) Subject to subsections (4) and (5), a person is not justified for the purposes of subsection (1) in using force that is intended or is likely to cause death or grievous bodily harm unless the person believes on reasonable grounds that it is necessary for the self-preservation of the person or the preservation of any one under that personâ(TM)s protection from death or grievous bodily harm.
Marginal note:When protected
(4) A peace officer, and every person lawfully assisting the peace officer, is justified in using force that is intended or is likely to cause death or grievous bodily harm to a person to be arrested, if
(a) the peace officer is proceeding lawfully to arrest, with or without warrant, the person to be arrested;
(b) the offence for which the person is to be arrested is one for which that person may be arrested without warrant;
(c) the person to be arrested takes flight to avoid arrest;
(d) the peace officer or other person using the force believes on reasonable grounds that the force is necessary for the purpose of protecting the peace officer, the person lawfully assisting the peace officer or any other person from imminent or future death or grievous bodily harm; and
(e) the flight cannot be prevented by reasonable means in a less violent manner.
Marginal note:Power in case of escape from penitentiary
(5) A peace officer is justified in using force that is intended or is likely to cause death or grievous bodily harm against an inmate who is escaping from a penitentiary within the meaning of subsection 2(1) of the Corrections and Conditional Release Act, if
(a) the peace officer believes on reasonable grounds that any of the inmates of the penitentiary poses a threat of death or grievous bodily harm to the peace officer or any other person; and
(b) the escape cannot be prevented by reasonable means in a less violent manner.
No, you don't hear about it - because it almost never happens. Only a tiny percentage of cops ever suffer negative consequences beyond slaps on the wrist for their murderous acts.
Sure. There's one in every province in Canada. There's one in nearly every state in the US. Why don't you just go look through the cases listed on the front page and tell me how many times they show up in the media. I'll give you a hint, it's zero.
Ever seen the number of hit & runs with vehicles which are uninsured and owned by illegals in places like California, Illinois and Minnesota? It's the easiest way to track them, especially since they won't show up at court.
This is not a leftist plot. No one is trying to destroy the US. No one is trying to create open borders.
That's a key platform of many california democrats, and democrats themselves on the national level actively push policies like that. In Canada, the NDP and Liberals push the same bullshit. In Europe again it's left-wing parties pushing it.
800+km is a day trip for a family. 800+ miles is not. That's professional trucking driving. One of the biggest limitations are the goddamn moose crossing highways.
Well then, I guess myself and all those other kids I met during the 80's were just professional truck drivers along with their parents. 800mi is around a 12hr drive, and not really all that earth shattering even for those of us in the era before TV screens in the back of seats.
Police have the "reasonable belief" clause. That doesn't mean they can't be held accountable to internal policies, or state laws regarding the level of force that was used, or various police acts, or reviews of the incidents reviewed by external investigations and so on. You don't really ever hear about it because the media doesn't really care to report on it, but it happens all the time.
Apparently I know more about fishing then you. Especially since the oxygen levels in the water are the same as recorded ~50 years ago. The problem isn't fish fleeing, the problem is too much fishing and not allowing them to rebuild their numbers. One of the reasons for instance that Canada has been pushing fish farms and direct population of depleted stock. Maybe ask yourself why Finland is against this.
Okay there. Don't worry that your desire to impose communism on people is missed by people, or your desire to leave the shithole you helped create and try again.
Nope. Because he'll simply play this out as it's dealt to him, and progressives aren't going to like the result. Especially since it now opens it up against all politicians, and likely beyond that.
There's a problem then. Germany import's about half of it's wheat either from Canada or the US, Canada and the US use the same breeds of wheat because we have a vastly different growing environment. Most of that imported wheat is cheaper and in turn used in cheaper products(like those pretzels). It's not the wheat, it's how the wheat is being prepared for the product and either the preservatives, or the method used in fast-rising.
Don't know much about fishing huh? It's not that the fish are going further north. It's that warmer climates have been over-fished to the point that we're moving into the actual spawning grounds to catch fish. It also doesn't help that despite treaties, there are numerous governments that let commercial fisheries operate right along the territorial limits, or catch more then is allowed by quota. Or simply black-flag companies that simply don't care(I'm looking at you Finland and China), and the governments in question simply look the other way or slap meaningless financial penalties on them.
Seriously, do you think that average people will take high cost electricity forever without a form of revolt? Why don't you look to Ontario, where the current government has pushed your idea. An idea so hard that they will likely cease to be a political party in ~18 days.
Well it's harder to go in a straight line in Canada, once you start getting out of the civilized parts it's bogs, marsh, permafrost, lakes, forests, mountains, hills the size of mountains and so on. You can drive 870 miles and never see anything but outpost villages(pop 18-50) that get fuel by rail(it's too expensive for trucks to make round trips for fuel), but are considered critical lifeline communities. That 870 miles you might never see a single car, truck or another person except outside of those outpost communities too. And if you broke down? Cell service doesn't exist.
In Canada, driving 800+ miles is considered a day trip, unless you live in one of the big cities and never really travel. Same with the US. People really don't grasp the size of north america, and just how far people travel. Often, it's cheaper to drive from ontario to alberta through the US(call it 3-4 days) with fuel and hotel rentals then it is to fly(call that a 4200km drive), a flight could run you $600-900 even with 2mo reservations, driving? $300 if that. It's hilarious to hear european truck drivers for instance complaining about 300-400km drives, but then look at you in shock when you explain that truck drivers here drive 1500km in a 2 or 3 day stint and that's considered a normal 401/I75 run.
I used to drive from Southern Ontario(let's call it London because it's easier to find on the map), to southern Indianapolis(southport) every friday afternoon after work, to visit my GF. I'd leave sunday around 6-7pm and get back in time for a few hours of sleep and be up for work monday morning. I sure am not the only person that did or does that, and that's only a 7hr drive.
Suffering Chlorine poisoning or getting burns from Chlorination *LITERALLY* requires there to be more chlorine in the pool than water. You can theoretically overchlorinate a pool, but...not really.
It literally doesn't require that. Maybe you should go read up on it a bit, and find out just how low a tolerance people have for pool chlorination. A simply chlorine shock, is enough to cause burns and blisters on people and that's roughly 2-3x the amount you normally use.
No business man worth his salt could lose money on a casino.
You're an idiot. No other way to put it. You know how you lose money on a casino? Casino glut. Too many for the few too people to keep it afloat. I can't read Trump's mind, but I'm guessing it went something like this: Buys a failing casino, with poor RoT. Figures most of the issues aren't related to marketshare of people to the number of available casino's. And that the actual problems related to various mundane issues, corruption, top-heavy management, and so on. So here's what happens, expectation a gets squished by reality b.
Need some more examples? Look at the province of Ontario, in Canada. There's some ~17m people living the areas from Port Huron/Sarnia and Detroit/Windsor through to Quebec City. Should be booming for local casino markets and so on right? Nope. Government pushed hard on casino's, dumped hard on the race tracks(several of which are now defunct). Had them popping up all over the place, and...after the novelty wore off, around 40% of them were shutdown in the first 5 years. The tracks that were pushed out for the casinos and weren't "big volume" earners, are still gone. And will likely never come back because the racing industry has moved to new circuits.
See how easy that is? Your understanding of the underlying market is the problem, failure to properly observe the market conditions is what got Trump and his casino bankruptcy. The turn around is, he learned from that and adjusted his portfolio acquisitions. You on the other hand? Probably still think he's an idiot.
"Properly designed" being the key two words in that. The company I work for builds things that require mechanical and digital control systems for various situations(mostly high risk industry or critical infrastructure). The mechanical stuff is designed for basically any situation you can think of, from -70C to 90C temperature swings, with dust, dirt, sand, mud, rain, low humidity, high humidity and everything between because they're critical control devices. The digital stuff is pretty sturdy, but unless you're encasing the control device in epoxy or some kind of resin, you're far more likely going to run into that as a point of failure. The digital controls funny enough fail more often then say the data and power cables, and they're usually double or triple sealed with good weather proof grease.
The other upside is, it's much easier to isolate mechanical devices from 'leaks' vs digital control system. And once the mechanical system is programmed, there's very little that can cause it to deviate if done properly. The combo system, like SCADA and so on? Well if you're dealing with idiots that have to have the device on the internet you're just plain fucked anyway. I'm looking at you cities, where your entire water treatment and waste treatment system is sitting live on the net. That one's getting better, but there's a lot of bad shit.
Ran across a case while out in Alberta, where a large municipal owned community pool had a SCADA system for chlorine control, measurement, temperature control the whole 9 yards. Was sitting open on the internet, someone fucked around with it and hi-shocked the pool. Luckily the old guy who was used to the mechanical system for decades, had the habit of doing checks every morning with a kit "just to make sure." Otherwise there would have been a lot of burned 4-6 year old kids and likely their moms that morning. And that's the shit that rarely makes the news, just think of the ones that don't.
Don't worry intellectual coward, it's very easy to spot who makes posts like this. Why don't you try sticking to the content at hand instead of waving it around like your usual whataboutism that you go on about.
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Sanctuary cities are just saying, not my jurisdiction, not my problem.
You mean "we're refusing to enforce the law, and implement roadblocks in order to stop you from enforcing the law." Why do you think so many individual cities, counties, towns and so on in California have joined the case of Trump's DOJ on the issue. And California's response to those towns, cities, and counties was to threaten them if they don't fall in line.
"acting on good faith" == hearsay
Policing is built on the belief that the person making the call is "acting in good faith." Which is why the person being charged for the death of another person isn't the police, but the person acting in bad faith. In this case, the punishment does not fit the crime and should be 2nd degree, 1st degree requires premeditation and they're unlikely to get that. In your world, if an elderly homeowner fell down a flight of stairs, the police wouldn't be able to break in to save them. Nor would they ever respond to active shooting because the person responding is unable to verify it.
So when a police officer gets a call where a person is shooting up a restaurant, you don't want them to respond and use lethal force? You'd be happier until the person killing other people has simply run out of bullets? Or would you be happier that say in the US, in CC state that people can simply shoot the person in the first place?
Which need to go away immediately and forever. Leaving aside the question of whether the death penalty should exist at all; the standard for the state to execute a citizen is supposed to be "proof beyond a reasonable doubt" that the executed. And that's only ever supposed to happen after the due process of a jury trial. Hopped up thugs with the delusion that real life should be a Judge Dredd comic where their word and whim is the law and that trials and juries are unnecessary have no business wearing a badge, or in the service of the public in any capacity.
So, when a police officer is responding to a call about someone shooting a school, you don't want them to respond and to use whatever methods necessary to stop the shooter? Your fundamental understanding of policing is so poor, that I recommend you get off your ass and go volunteer at your local service or office asap.
Here's the one from Canada. The US has something similar.
Protection of persons acting under authority
25 (1) Every one who is required or authorized by law to do anything in the administration or enforcement of the law
(a) as a private person,
(b) as a peace officer or public officer,
(c) in aid of a peace officer or public officer, or
(d) by virtue of his office,
is, if he acts on reasonable grounds, justified in doing what he is required or authorized to do and in using as much force as is necessary for that purpose.
Marginal note:Idem
(2) Where a person is required or authorized by law to execute a process or to carry out a sentence, that person or any person who assists him is, if that person acts in good faith, justified in executing the process or in carrying out the sentence notwithstanding that the process or sentence is defective or that it was issued or imposed without jurisdiction or in excess of jurisdiction.
Marginal note:When not protected
(3) Subject to subsections (4) and (5), a person is not justified for the purposes of subsection (1) in using force that is intended or is likely to cause death or grievous bodily harm unless the person believes on reasonable grounds that it is necessary for the self-preservation of the person or the preservation of any one under that personâ(TM)s protection from death or grievous bodily harm.
Marginal note:When protected
(4) A peace officer, and every person lawfully assisting the peace officer, is justified in using force that is intended or is likely to cause death or grievous bodily harm to a person to be arrested, if
(a) the peace officer is proceeding lawfully to arrest, with or without warrant, the person to be arrested;
(b) the offence for which the person is to be arrested is one for which that person may be arrested without warrant;
(c) the person to be arrested takes flight to avoid arrest;
(d) the peace officer or other person using the force believes on reasonable grounds that the force is necessary for the purpose of protecting the peace officer, the person lawfully assisting the peace officer or any other person from imminent or future death or grievous bodily harm; and
(e) the flight cannot be prevented by reasonable means in a less violent manner.
Marginal note:Power in case of escape from penitentiary
(5) A peace officer is justified in using force that is intended or is likely to cause death or grievous bodily harm against an inmate who is escaping from a penitentiary within the meaning of subsection 2(1) of the Corrections and Conditional Release Act, if
(a) the peace officer believes on reasonable grounds that any of the inmates of the penitentiary poses a threat of death or grievous bodily harm to the peace officer or any other person; and
(b) the escape cannot be prevented by reasonable means in a less violent manner.
No, you don't hear about it - because it almost never happens. Only a tiny percentage of cops ever suffer negative consequences beyond slaps on the wrist for their murderous acts.
Sure. There's one in every province in Canada. There's one in nearly every state in the US. Why don't you just go look through the cases listed on the front page and tell me how many times they show up in the media. I'll give you a hint, it's zero.
Ever seen the number of hit & runs with vehicles which are uninsured and owned by illegals in places like California, Illinois and Minnesota? It's the easiest way to track them, especially since they won't show up at court.
This is not a leftist plot. No one is trying to destroy the US. No one is trying to create open borders.
That's a key platform of many california democrats, and democrats themselves on the national level actively push policies like that. In Canada, the NDP and Liberals push the same bullshit. In Europe again it's left-wing parties pushing it.
800+km is a day trip for a family. 800+ miles is not. That's professional trucking driving. One of the biggest limitations are the goddamn moose crossing highways.
Well then, I guess myself and all those other kids I met during the 80's were just professional truck drivers along with their parents. 800mi is around a 12hr drive, and not really all that earth shattering even for those of us in the era before TV screens in the back of seats.
Police have the "reasonable belief" clause. That doesn't mean they can't be held accountable to internal policies, or state laws regarding the level of force that was used, or various police acts, or reviews of the incidents reviewed by external investigations and so on. You don't really ever hear about it because the media doesn't really care to report on it, but it happens all the time.
Apparently I know more about fishing then you. Especially since the oxygen levels in the water are the same as recorded ~50 years ago. The problem isn't fish fleeing, the problem is too much fishing and not allowing them to rebuild their numbers. One of the reasons for instance that Canada has been pushing fish farms and direct population of depleted stock. Maybe ask yourself why Finland is against this.
Okay there. Don't worry that your desire to impose communism on people is missed by people, or your desire to leave the shithole you helped create and try again.
Nope. Because he'll simply play this out as it's dealt to him, and progressives aren't going to like the result. Especially since it now opens it up against all politicians, and likely beyond that.
There's a problem then. Germany import's about half of it's wheat either from Canada or the US, Canada and the US use the same breeds of wheat because we have a vastly different growing environment. Most of that imported wheat is cheaper and in turn used in cheaper products(like those pretzels). It's not the wheat, it's how the wheat is being prepared for the product and either the preservatives, or the method used in fast-rising.
Don't know much about fishing huh? It's not that the fish are going further north. It's that warmer climates have been over-fished to the point that we're moving into the actual spawning grounds to catch fish. It also doesn't help that despite treaties, there are numerous governments that let commercial fisheries operate right along the territorial limits, or catch more then is allowed by quota. Or simply black-flag companies that simply don't care(I'm looking at you Finland and China), and the governments in question simply look the other way or slap meaningless financial penalties on them.
Seriously, do you think that average people will take high cost electricity forever without a form of revolt? Why don't you look to Ontario, where the current government has pushed your idea. An idea so hard that they will likely cease to be a political party in ~18 days.
Well it's harder to go in a straight line in Canada, once you start getting out of the civilized parts it's bogs, marsh, permafrost, lakes, forests, mountains, hills the size of mountains and so on. You can drive 870 miles and never see anything but outpost villages(pop 18-50) that get fuel by rail(it's too expensive for trucks to make round trips for fuel), but are considered critical lifeline communities. That 870 miles you might never see a single car, truck or another person except outside of those outpost communities too. And if you broke down? Cell service doesn't exist.
In Canada, driving 800+ miles is considered a day trip, unless you live in one of the big cities and never really travel. Same with the US. People really don't grasp the size of north america, and just how far people travel. Often, it's cheaper to drive from ontario to alberta through the US(call it 3-4 days) with fuel and hotel rentals then it is to fly(call that a 4200km drive), a flight could run you $600-900 even with 2mo reservations, driving? $300 if that. It's hilarious to hear european truck drivers for instance complaining about 300-400km drives, but then look at you in shock when you explain that truck drivers here drive 1500km in a 2 or 3 day stint and that's considered a normal 401/I75 run.
I used to drive from Southern Ontario(let's call it London because it's easier to find on the map), to southern Indianapolis(southport) every friday afternoon after work, to visit my GF. I'd leave sunday around 6-7pm and get back in time for a few hours of sleep and be up for work monday morning. I sure am not the only person that did or does that, and that's only a 7hr drive.
Suffering Chlorine poisoning or getting burns from Chlorination *LITERALLY* requires there to be more chlorine in the pool than water. You can theoretically overchlorinate a pool, but...not really.
It literally doesn't require that. Maybe you should go read up on it a bit, and find out just how low a tolerance people have for pool chlorination. A simply chlorine shock, is enough to cause burns and blisters on people and that's roughly 2-3x the amount you normally use.
No business man worth his salt could lose money on a casino.
You're an idiot. No other way to put it. You know how you lose money on a casino? Casino glut. Too many for the few too people to keep it afloat. I can't read Trump's mind, but I'm guessing it went something like this: Buys a failing casino, with poor RoT. Figures most of the issues aren't related to marketshare of people to the number of available casino's. And that the actual problems related to various mundane issues, corruption, top-heavy management, and so on. So here's what happens, expectation a gets squished by reality b.
Need some more examples? Look at the province of Ontario, in Canada. There's some ~17m people living the areas from Port Huron/Sarnia and Detroit/Windsor through to Quebec City. Should be booming for local casino markets and so on right? Nope. Government pushed hard on casino's, dumped hard on the race tracks(several of which are now defunct). Had them popping up all over the place, and...after the novelty wore off, around 40% of them were shutdown in the first 5 years. The tracks that were pushed out for the casinos and weren't "big volume" earners, are still gone. And will likely never come back because the racing industry has moved to new circuits.
See how easy that is? Your understanding of the underlying market is the problem, failure to properly observe the market conditions is what got Trump and his casino bankruptcy. The turn around is, he learned from that and adjusted his portfolio acquisitions. You on the other hand? Probably still think he's an idiot.
"Properly designed" being the key two words in that. The company I work for builds things that require mechanical and digital control systems for various situations(mostly high risk industry or critical infrastructure). The mechanical stuff is designed for basically any situation you can think of, from -70C to 90C temperature swings, with dust, dirt, sand, mud, rain, low humidity, high humidity and everything between because they're critical control devices. The digital stuff is pretty sturdy, but unless you're encasing the control device in epoxy or some kind of resin, you're far more likely going to run into that as a point of failure. The digital controls funny enough fail more often then say the data and power cables, and they're usually double or triple sealed with good weather proof grease.
The other upside is, it's much easier to isolate mechanical devices from 'leaks' vs digital control system. And once the mechanical system is programmed, there's very little that can cause it to deviate if done properly. The combo system, like SCADA and so on? Well if you're dealing with idiots that have to have the device on the internet you're just plain fucked anyway. I'm looking at you cities, where your entire water treatment and waste treatment system is sitting live on the net. That one's getting better, but there's a lot of bad shit.
Ran across a case while out in Alberta, where a large municipal owned community pool had a SCADA system for chlorine control, measurement, temperature control the whole 9 yards. Was sitting open on the internet, someone fucked around with it and hi-shocked the pool. Luckily the old guy who was used to the mechanical system for decades, had the habit of doing checks every morning with a kit "just to make sure." Otherwise there would have been a lot of burned 4-6 year old kids and likely their moms that morning. And that's the shit that rarely makes the news, just think of the ones that don't.
Pretty sure it was "Preventing us from fucking consumers, and then lying to them about what we're doing." -- Google
I have to wonder what it's like to be as stupid as you are. How did you get so far in life with no-one holding your hand.
Don't worry intellectual coward, it's very easy to spot who makes posts like this. Why don't you try sticking to the content at hand instead of waving it around like your usual whataboutism that you go on about.
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You mean besides all the other sources out there? This isn't rocket surgery.