Continue to be ever so deluded, that way those of us in power remain so. Most of you aren't aware that all donations are reported and you can see them online, even. Of course the reality is, is that this is a Republic, not a mob oriented Democracy. As such, those who have money/power should have a bigger voice in government - it was deliberatley made to be so, read the Constitution and then you will get it. See, the truth is, is that you underlings SHOULD NOT have much of a voice, look how you conduct your own squalid lives. Sheesh, you'd think after over 200 years you pleebs would get it.
It isn't for power, they already have it- loads of it, you can't even imagine. I can, I have been with in it's sphere before, it is truly amazing to see, touch, feel, smell( yes, you can indeed sense it that way, most of all in those around it who want to be close to it).Its not just money, it's the power to change people's lives, for the good or the better, at the whim of your choosing, not because of your wallet (although having a fat one is part of it) but because of who you know, and control.
For a better grasp of what's going on, study Lincoln's reasoning behind suspending the "writ of habeus corpus" during the civil war, it is a text book analysis of civil liberties and the issues surrounding national security ( required study for both Poly-sci and law majors) and it is from thence that the Fed is drawing it's present powers - and they haven't even suspended the writ yet.
What you do not understand, is that they cannot treat billigerants as citizens, it is impossible and no nation has ever done that, it's more then impossible, it's down right absurd. DO you think we read Japaneese or Germans their rights? NOOOO.
THe government is in a position of "damned if you do, damned if you don't" Dont you see what would happen if another attack is successful? And it's successful because they decided not to inconvienience people? WHat americans are being asked to deal with, and anyone who crosses our boarders, is nothing more then you put up with any where else in the world you travel.
Are you all forgetting the nut case islamofascist who they caught trying to cross the border between BC Canada and Washington state with a trunk full of explosives just before New Years Eve in 1999? where do you think he was headed with that stuff?
It will not be an air liner the next time, it will be a bomb, made right here in the US. Dear god, they are selling copies of the Dan Pearl video (WSJ reporter) showing his torture and execution. You cannot apply western thinking to these people, they are not even remotely aware of the value we place on life, not even close.Jesus, they stone people to death, in Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Iran, et al.
The long and the short of this is thus, study history, we have, as a nation, always reacted this way when our shores were threatened. Had you even an inkling of US history you would know that.
Go to debka.com and get an outside view of it from someone else involved in it.
Your a godamn fool, it was clinton and his left wing politics that could have locked bin laden up twice and didnt - he was too concerned with gettin his rocks off to be bothered with that.
You dont even see that 1984 is all about whats going on in the public schools in this country, they are progressively dumbing them down - go visit a private school and be amazed at the difference in education - those kids actually still have to read and get tested on the Constitution. Do you really think it's an accident that the top schools in this country are private ? it wasn't always so, but it is now.
All your being taught is how to pull the ballot for Democrats, period. THe sad thing is, now the republicans are into the same give away politics, take from the "MAN" and give it to you, 30 years we still could see that for what it was "vote for me and Ill set you free" dude, they have legislated away your right to think, Im not a racist, but any one used to have the right to say anything they wanted- except for the "fire" in a crowded theater test, all else was allowed, even saying "fu*k you" to a cop - which actually went to the SUpreme court, not anymore, thanks to do-gooder liberals, that's now considered "hate speech" ALL SPEECH IS PROTECTED BY THE CONSTITUTION- unless your a liberal, then you must control it.
AND that, oung man, was what the book 1984 was all about, dumb the masses down so they cannot think critically anymore, reduce their vocabulary and reduce their ability to think, and control their speech, make it "politically/culturally" incorect" to speak your mind, and thus control your thoughts.
Im 43 years old, my Dad is 75, the only people who have passed laws in the US limiting my freedoms are do-gooder liberals that have no made it crime to speak and think what you will (hate crimes, and they only apply to white people) my property rights - they can take from me at will and build a parking lot on it in the name of "community"- they can also tell me what i may or may not build on it, grow on it , etc.
They decide what moral lessons my children will learn (not anymore though, they are in private schools)they decide who I MUST commune with, they destroy property values by condeming property and building "low income housing" on it, then moving a bunch of free loaders in.
They have passed laws effectively removing the natural right to protect my home and property by declaring it a no loss situation because i have insurance. They tax me at ten times the rate of other people simply because I'm smart enough to know how to make money. they'll tax me when Im dead on money they taxed while I was alive so they can "even out' the balance between me and some moron who won't get out of bed in the morning, oh yeah, love those democrats of the farmer/labor party -
Hell, it is no ILLEGAL to pick up a rock in a National Park, and the list goes on and on forever. But if your a poor victim "of the state" we'll let you out of Jail early and then you can go and rape/murder another child somewhere.
thats why they have all under survelance - DUHHHH.
I dont see anyone else bombing shit but muslims. Truthfully, I can hardly wait for the next one to go off, then they will deport all of you from the US.
No seriously, you are bing watched because so many of you were seen partying after the WTC massacre, so naturally we dont trust you any more, hell, we didn't trust the Japaneese either after we eves dropped on the embassy communiques beginning in 1936, thats why the supreme court threw out the Japanese clim for reparations, a high percentage of them were agents of Japan, Clinton just gave them reparations to buy their votes, they had long since lost their legal case.
Its really fun when they declassify this stuff, especially the KGB files, turns out Hollywood was full of commy agents after all!.
Yeah Right, My brother administers you lazy fucks, most of the time Pro fire fighters are sittin on their asses, most of em run a side business - did you know they, as a group, have the highest amount of workman's comp fraud in the country? now you do.
I admire what those men did that day, although THAT is what you get paid for, I admire even more the Military boys and girls for what they do - every been shot at? I have, now thats fuckin scary.
Ever since they started rounding them up, there have been fewer Muslims hanging out on street corners here in the midwest - so of course that's good.
Also, the gang bangers over Minneapolis have settled alot as well - cops have shot quite a few lately.
The other thing I noticed is that all the damn immigrants aren't up at the Capitol asking for more free housing so my property taxes went donw a little as well (although $8,000.00+/year is till to godamn high).
THe other really nice thing is you can yell nasties at liberals now and everyone laughs, so all in all, it's been a change for the better.:-)
Well, we certainly kicked Europes ass 55 years ago, or are you forgetting that Hitler spent 2 weeks whupping France and England and another two weeks mopping up?
Nukes, you say? we have shitloads of em in Europe, charlie, shitloads, and we still occupy you bitches from the last bitch slapping we laid down. I dont see German or British or French troops in America, now do I?
Himm, Kosovo - only the most recent of Europe's shrill cries for help from big Daddy Uncle Sam.
It must be hard being a European male, oh I forgot, Your all essentially castrated anyway.
we have alot of areas like that here still, most people from Asia and indeed, Europe, marvel at how long it takes to cross the great Prairie, for instance. What Euros dont understand about American Greens, is how silly they are in respect to how much we have. At no time since the last GLacier did Europe have the amount of forested land we still have, let alone whats been replanted in thelast 20 years and off limits for everything. You can literally travel for days and not leave it. put together into one giant mass, it would cover an area the size of western eurpoe easily.
When through Canada into the equation, it becomes mind boggeling, they have so few people compared to land mass, fully 75% of Canada is wilderness.
Wrong - the Germans kicked both the French and Brittish asses in less then 4 weeks, then turned and drove the russians half way across their country - the only reason why England itself survived was "lend-lease" - America's first International welfare subsidy program. WE then extended that to the Soviets in 1942 at CHurchill's urging, the idea being to keep the russians going so as to help wear down the Germans so there were fewer Hitler could send to Africa, and eventually fewer to defend the West Euro shoreline.
Churchill was right, it worked, and what insued was the bloodiest battle zone in history. The second russo-german war, as Germans and Russians refer to it, was an amazing out right slugfest.
But make no mistake about it, with-out the US, you would all be goose stepping.
And again in 1952, without the US standing as a bullwark to Stalin, you would have all been singing the Soviet National anthem - or did you honestly think the French could have fought them?
Hmmmm? We still protect your butts, period, you are our vassels, we just pretend to let you out on a long leash. Be careful, we just might let the Russians have you yet, depends on who gives us more help in the next few years..............
You guys really ought to read more, specifically history, and at that, English history. Might I suggest Churchill's "History of the English speaking peoples" ? or how about a little bit written by the Germans - Guderian's "Panzer Leader" as well as Fischer's "the deadly embrace" which fully documents Stalin's master plan to conquer Europe after the Germans first bled it dry.
Thank your asses for us, you should. What we did was more important to Europe then stopping Atilla was in his day.
I mean, really, who cares? what difference does it make if some tiny number of people (classic users are what, 25% of a 3% minority?) can't boot on a new machine?
Considering Apple's horrible hardware compared to x86, are you really loosing anything? I mean, in the last two years they went from 500 mhz to 1 ghz, big whoopie - word is there won't be any more speed boosts for a long time anyway.
Find something interesting to talk about/post - mac life just sort of sucks period.
THere is no point in going anymore, we kicked your arses so bad, so many times, there is no honor in it anymore.
We didnt change the rules, we only equalized the competition, all you Euros, especially communist countries used government supported pro teams, we just sent our pros over to settle the score, it was funny really, we always new what would happen if you played our non scholl kids and played the real deal, it was you people who deluded yourselves.
It's called jealousy man, Kyoto is nothing more then a plot to undermine US hegemony, in other words, Euros need to tie our hands behind our backs so they can compete.
Hahaha, 12.5% EU unemployment rate, sad really, dumb socialists.
I know why you can tell, AMericans still have all their teeth at age 25, while most Euros, if they have any natural teeth left, are all crooked and blackend from rot - thats how we tell Euros in AMerica, anyway, your bad teeth and all around poor health by comparison, fact is, we Americans were already substantially taller then Euros by 1850, not its only more so.
Please, it's an undisputed fact that we are far wealtheir, far healthier and better looking on whole then you people will ever be. It's a done deal, too late to change it. Americans pay less for food and housing (per SQ.FT of finnished space) then any other group on earth.
Your really just jealous because your ancestors didn't have the guts to move here when they had the chance.:-)
its not ignorance, it's just that Europe has ceased to matter as an economic entity on the world stage. now ask american children about asian countries and Mexico, well, it's a whole different matter.
face it, Europe shot it's collective wad in 1936, since 1942 you have been an American protectorate. Only the Italians and Brittish seem to understand this fully, the rest of you are still trying to live on past glory.
Face it, your nothing better then South AMerican Banana Republics, as my Father's generation called them
Yeah well, I live in St.Paul minnesota, a city of 280,000 thats all - small actually, and we have no less then 7 DSL providers other then Qwest, the local telco. we also have cable provided by ATT and satlilite optons. the US market has reached near total saturation, only very remote rural areas - like Montana do not have broadband, they do have 56k and satlilite uplinks though. All hotel chains have access pts in the hotel rooms. All schools and nearly all public Libraries, this was, after all, the rallying cry of the Democrats in the 1996-1998 elections, or are you forgetting AlGOREythm invented the internet ?
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Sounds pretty small compared to Boeing's facilities in Washington.
Continue to be ever so deluded, that way those of us in power remain so. Most of you aren't aware that all donations are reported and you can see them online, even. Of course the reality is, is that this is a Republic, not a mob oriented Democracy. As such, those who have money/power should have a bigger voice in government - it was deliberatley made to be so, read the Constitution and then you will get it. See, the truth is, is that you underlings SHOULD NOT have much of a voice, look how you conduct your own squalid lives. Sheesh, you'd think after over 200 years you pleebs would get it.
Dude, your just plain stupid, well ignorant, you might also be stupid, as in low IQ.
try reading a history of WW2, Hitler had already whupped everyone in europe, case closed.
It isn't for power, they already have it- loads of it, you can't even imagine. I can, I have been with in it's sphere before, it is truly amazing to see, touch, feel, smell( yes, you can indeed sense it that way, most of all in those around it who want to be close to it).Its not just money, it's the power to change people's lives, for the good or the better, at the whim of your choosing, not because of your wallet (although having a fat one is part of it) but because of who you know, and control.
For a better grasp of what's going on, study Lincoln's reasoning behind suspending the "writ of habeus corpus" during the civil war, it is a text book analysis of civil liberties and the issues surrounding national security ( required study for both Poly-sci and law majors) and it is from thence that the Fed is drawing it's present powers - and they haven't even suspended the writ yet.
What you do not understand, is that they cannot treat billigerants as citizens, it is impossible and no nation has ever done that, it's more then impossible, it's down right absurd. DO you think we read Japaneese or Germans their rights? NOOOO.
THe government is in a position of "damned if you do, damned if you don't" Dont you see what would happen if another attack is successful? And it's successful because they decided not to inconvienience people? WHat americans are being asked to deal with, and anyone who crosses our boarders, is nothing more then you put up with any where else in the world you travel.
Are you all forgetting the nut case islamofascist who they caught trying to cross the border between BC Canada and Washington state with a trunk full of explosives just before New Years Eve in 1999? where do you think he was headed with that stuff?
It will not be an air liner the next time, it will be a bomb, made right here in the US. Dear god, they are selling copies of the Dan Pearl video (WSJ reporter) showing his torture and execution. You cannot apply western thinking to these people, they are not even remotely aware of the value we place on life, not even close.Jesus, they stone people to death, in Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Iran, et al.
The long and the short of this is thus, study history, we have, as a nation, always reacted this way when our shores were threatened. Had you even an inkling of US history you would know that.
Go to debka.com and get an outside view of it from someone else involved in it.
Your a godamn fool, it was clinton and his left wing politics that could have locked bin laden up twice and didnt - he was too concerned with gettin his rocks off to be bothered with that.
You dont even see that 1984 is all about whats going on in the public schools in this country, they are progressively dumbing them down - go visit a private school and be amazed at the difference in education - those kids actually still have to read and get tested on the Constitution. Do you really think it's an accident that the top schools in this country are private ? it wasn't always so, but it is now.
All your being taught is how to pull the ballot for Democrats, period. THe sad thing is, now the republicans are into the same give away politics, take from the "MAN" and give it to you, 30 years we still could see that for what it was "vote for me and Ill set you free" dude, they have legislated away your right to think, Im not a racist, but any one used to have the right to say anything they wanted- except for the "fire" in a crowded theater test, all else was allowed, even saying "fu*k you" to a cop - which actually went to the SUpreme court, not anymore, thanks to do-gooder liberals, that's now considered "hate speech" ALL SPEECH IS PROTECTED BY THE CONSTITUTION- unless your a liberal, then you must control it.
AND that, oung man, was what the book 1984 was all about, dumb the masses down so they cannot think critically anymore, reduce their vocabulary and reduce their ability to think, and control their speech, make it "politically/culturally" incorect" to speak your mind, and thus control your thoughts.
Im 43 years old, my Dad is 75, the only people who have passed laws in the US limiting my freedoms are do-gooder liberals that have no made it crime to speak and think what you will (hate crimes, and they only apply to white people) my property rights - they can take from me at will and build a parking lot on it in the name of "community"- they can also tell me what i may or may not build on it, grow on it , etc.
They decide what moral lessons my children will learn (not anymore though, they are in private schools)they decide who I MUST commune with, they destroy property values by condeming property and building "low income housing" on it, then moving a bunch of free loaders in.
They have passed laws effectively removing the natural right to protect my home and property by declaring it a no loss situation because i have insurance. They tax me at ten times the rate of other people simply because I'm smart enough to know how to make money. they'll tax me when Im dead on money they taxed while I was alive so they can "even out' the balance between me and some moron who won't get out of bed in the morning, oh yeah, love those democrats of the farmer/labor party -
Hell, it is no ILLEGAL to pick up a rock in a National Park, and the list goes on and on forever. But if your a poor victim "of the state" we'll let you out of Jail early and then you can go and rape/murder another child somewhere.
AND.....
thats why they have all under survelance - DUHHHH.
I dont see anyone else bombing shit but muslims. Truthfully, I can hardly wait for the next one to go off, then they will deport all of you from the US.
No seriously, you are bing watched because so many of you were seen partying after the WTC massacre, so naturally we dont trust you any more, hell, we didn't trust the Japaneese either after we eves dropped on the embassy communiques beginning in 1936, thats why the supreme court threw out the Japanese clim for reparations, a high percentage of them were agents of Japan, Clinton just gave them reparations to buy their votes, they had long since lost their legal case.
Its really fun when they declassify this stuff, especially the KGB files, turns out Hollywood was full of commy agents after all!.
Yeah Right, My brother administers you lazy fucks, most of the time Pro fire fighters are sittin on their asses, most of em run a side business - did you know they, as a group, have the highest amount of workman's comp fraud in the country? now you do.
I admire what those men did that day, although THAT is what you get paid for, I admire even more the Military boys and girls for what they do - every been shot at? I have, now thats fuckin scary.
Ever since they started rounding them up, there have been fewer Muslims hanging out on street corners here in the midwest - so of course that's good.
:-)
Also, the gang bangers over Minneapolis have settled alot as well - cops have shot quite a few lately.
The other thing I noticed is that all the damn immigrants aren't up at the Capitol asking for more free housing so my property taxes went donw a little as well (although $8,000.00+/year is till to godamn high).
THe other really nice thing is you can yell nasties at liberals now and everyone laughs, so all in all, it's been a change for the better.
Well, we certainly kicked Europes ass 55 years ago, or are you forgetting that Hitler spent 2 weeks whupping France and England and another two weeks mopping up?
Nukes, you say? we have shitloads of em in Europe, charlie, shitloads, and we still occupy you bitches from the last bitch slapping we laid down. I dont see German or British or French troops in America, now do I?
Himm, Kosovo - only the most recent of Europe's shrill cries for help from big Daddy Uncle Sam.
It must be hard being a European male, oh I forgot, Your all essentially castrated anyway.
we have alot of areas like that here still, most people from Asia and indeed, Europe, marvel at how long it takes to cross the great Prairie, for instance. What Euros dont understand about American Greens, is how silly they are in respect to how much we have. At no time since the last GLacier did Europe have the amount of forested land we still have, let alone whats been replanted in thelast 20 years and off limits for everything. You can literally travel for days and not leave it. put together into one giant mass, it would cover an area the size of western eurpoe easily.
When through Canada into the equation, it becomes mind boggeling, they have so few people compared to land mass, fully 75% of Canada is wilderness.
Wrong - the Germans kicked both the French and Brittish asses in less then 4 weeks, then turned and drove the russians half way across their country - the only reason why England itself survived was "lend-lease" - America's first International welfare subsidy program. WE then extended that to the Soviets in 1942 at CHurchill's urging, the idea being to keep the russians going so as to help wear down the Germans so there were fewer Hitler could send to Africa, and eventually fewer to defend the West Euro shoreline.
Churchill was right, it worked, and what insued was the bloodiest battle zone in history. The second russo-german war, as Germans and Russians refer to it, was an amazing out right slugfest.
But make no mistake about it, with-out the US, you would all be goose stepping.
And again in 1952, without the US standing as a bullwark to Stalin, you would have all been singing the Soviet National anthem - or did you honestly think the French could have fought them?
Hmmmm? We still protect your butts, period, you are our vassels, we just pretend to let you out on a long leash. Be careful, we just might let the Russians have you yet, depends on who gives us more help in the next few years..............
You guys really ought to read more, specifically history, and at that, English history. Might I suggest Churchill's "History of the English speaking peoples" ? or how about a little bit written by the Germans - Guderian's "Panzer Leader" as well as Fischer's "the deadly embrace" which fully documents Stalin's master plan to conquer Europe after the Germans first bled it dry.
Thank your asses for us, you should. What we did was more important to Europe then stopping Atilla was in his day.
this isn't flame bait, it's true, mod this up!
I mean, really, who cares? what difference does it make if some tiny number of people (classic users are what, 25% of a 3% minority?) can't boot on a new machine?
Considering Apple's horrible hardware compared to x86, are you really loosing anything? I mean, in the last two years they went from 500 mhz to 1 ghz, big whoopie - word is there won't be any more speed boosts for a long time anyway.
Find something interesting to talk about/post - mac life just sort of sucks period.
Dude, your socialists, or are you trying to say that ultra liberal shit isn't ? common, all the Nordic states and france are blatently socialist.
Please, get a dictionary and look it up - you have virtual command economies.
I only used the official EU numbers from 1995, so yes, as usual, the Euros suck.
THere is no point in going anymore, we kicked your arses so bad, so many times, there is no honor in it anymore.
We didnt change the rules, we only equalized the competition, all you Euros, especially communist countries used government supported pro teams, we just sent our pros over to settle the score, it was funny really, we always new what would happen if you played our non scholl kids and played the real deal, it was you people who deluded yourselves.
It's called jealousy man, Kyoto is nothing more then a plot to undermine US hegemony, in other words, Euros need to tie our hands behind our backs so they can compete.
Hahaha, 12.5% EU unemployment rate, sad really, dumb socialists.
I know why you can tell, AMericans still have all their teeth at age 25, while most Euros, if they have any natural teeth left, are all crooked and blackend from rot - thats how we tell Euros in AMerica, anyway, your bad teeth and all around poor health by comparison, fact is, we Americans were already substantially taller then Euros by 1850, not its only more so.
:-)
Please, it's an undisputed fact that we are far wealtheir, far healthier and better looking on whole then you people will ever be. It's a done deal, too late to change it. Americans pay less for food and housing (per SQ.FT of finnished space) then any other group on earth.
Your really just jealous because your ancestors didn't have the guts to move here when they had the chance.
its not ignorance, it's just that Europe has ceased to matter as an economic entity on the world stage. now ask american children about asian countries and Mexico, well, it's a whole different matter.
face it, Europe shot it's collective wad in 1936, since 1942 you have been an American protectorate. Only the Italians and Brittish seem to understand this fully, the rest of you are still trying to live on past glory.
Face it, your nothing better then South AMerican Banana Republics, as my Father's generation called them
Yeah well, I live in St.Paul minnesota, a city of 280,000 thats all - small actually, and we have no less then 7 DSL providers other then Qwest, the local telco. we also have cable provided by ATT and satlilite optons.
the US market has reached near total saturation, only very remote rural areas - like Montana do not have broadband, they do have 56k and satlilite uplinks though. All hotel chains have access pts in the hotel rooms. All schools and nearly all public Libraries, this was, after all, the rallying cry of the Democrats in the 1996-1998 elections, or are you forgetting AlGOREythm invented the internet ?
Umm, ok, we only saved Europ's ass three times in one century.
Give it a break lame ass, what are the swiss known for besides cukoo cukoo clocks and hidden NAzi bank accounts ?
No i looked it up, see my other post, his numbers are accurate, Europe onnce again lags behind the US.
Population of Canada: 31,081,900
.582/person
.500/person
population of US: 281,421,906
Total 2000: 312,503,806
per capita usage:
European (EU)1995 371,930,000
per capita usage:
Hahahaha, we still win. And if you take into account the US and Canadien census is more up to date, well, we really win.
Umm, get a globe, Mexico is not part of North AMerica, that was just for NAFTA purposes. We took all of NA that we wanted and left the rest to Canada.
See histories of Oregon teritory for clarification.