When advertisers ignore the voluntary setting, we'll get a law mandating it. Typically Congress gives industry a chance to regulate itself, then steps in if it fails. Compare to do-not-call and annualcreditreport.com. Also compare to movie ratings, which is a voluntary regulation successful enough to fend off Congressional action.
That depends on whether he was speaking literally or figuratively. I immediately recognized (assumed) that tonywestonuk was speaking figuratively, in which case he is right, but if he was speaking literally (as you apparently assume) then you are right.
"there can never be a law to make it a crime"
Are you speaking literally or figuratively? Of course, literally speaking, there could easily be a law to make it a crime.
"microsoft actions have made DNT not a true indicator of a users preference."
I'd like to know how you came to this conclusion. It seems to me that almost everyone would prefer the setting and thus Microsoft's actions have set the default setting according to the majority of the actual user preference. Similarly, Microsoft also has anti-spam featured turned on automatically in its email systems based on the assumption that people don't want to receive spam. Would you decry that as a violation of "true" user preference?
Personally I am shocked that Microsoft is taking this action. It's the number-one most consumer-friendly thing I've ever heard of them doing -- literally.
Oh, okay, thanks. Thank you for pointing out how all the Windows naysayers have no authority on technology. You totally convinced me. I totally see now how Windows is awesome and that is why all the smartest people in the software industry use it as their preferred platform. How foolish I have been! Woe is me! No more Unix for me, I'm a Windows man from here on out.
I don't know any gamers who "want to run Windows" but I know a lot who "want to run a favorite game". Nobody wants to run Windows. People simply want to run their Windows-only program, so they put up with Windows to do that. Some people don't know better and think Windows is all there is, but those people don't read Slashdot.
Which part, the donkey shit? Yeah, I guess I do. Windows is a toy operating system, a technological travesty. To compare two computers, one which runs Windows and another which runs (Windows and) Mac OS, is to compare two computers which do completely different tasks. They don't compare; people don't buy Macs to run (only) Windows.
It sounds like you really don't know about what they call the "security chip". That's the secret ingredient. You can bypass it if you can do a little hacking, but that is the "fairy dust" which prevents "completely standard Intel-based hardware" from running Mac OS. (And therefore it is specifically *not* completely standard.)
"Easily run Windows 7" is not a feature, it is a bug. Windows is as good of an operating system as a pile of donkey shit on the bottom of the ocean. If you want to run Windows, you don't need Apple hardware, you simply need to kill yourself. And if you want to run Linux, then you are a rockstar who doesn't need to pay for Apple hardware to have a good computer experience. For the rest of people, they pay the cost to run the best consumer-oriented OS.
I was also a Scout. My experience, like yours, had very little religious nonsense (despite troop meetings held in a church) nor did anyone every say anything about homosexuals. It was not an issue at all. That was back in the late 80s and early 90s.
Furthermore, I doubt that many troops sit around disparaging atheists or homosexuals. Maybe a few do that, but probably not many. That's nice, but that's not all that matters. It really does matter who leads the organization, what policies they put in place, and what process they use to re-evaluate those policies. In the case of the BSA, the leaders are dedicated political-right Christian-specific anti-gay true believers. They represent a minority viewpoint within the organization, I'm sure, but they also represent the official organizational viewpoint.
It's true, the USA screws up a lot, but cut us some slack. We've done a pretty good job as the leading beacon of freedom and democracy. At least we can still criticize our government, defend our lives using deadly force and vote for our head of state, unlike the next several of the most important countries. (In Russia you can't criticize the government; in Britain you can't defend yourself using deadly force nor vote for the head of state.)
But the Boys Scouts of America can eat me. They deserve no slack. It's nice to hear that other countries don't have such bigoted Scouts.
It's only important insofar as I spend time thinking about the great man, Steve Jobs. "Great" means 'grand', not 'very good'. There are many greatly bad men in history and most great people are a mix of good and bad. Most of us agree that Jobs did enormous good for the world, and the flipside of that coin is some apparently deep personal ethical failings. Cheating your "close and personal friend (not to mention business partner)" would be one of those ethical failings. Knowing more of the whole picture allows us peons to ponder what greatness means when we ponder a man like Jobs.
I understand what you mean by "specs", but if you want to make this comparison you need compare a Mac to a PC that will run the Mac OS. If it doesn't run the Mac OS, then it isn't "comparably spec'd". Windows is not "comparable" to Mac OS or Linux. Windows is a steaming pile of shit while Mac OS and Linux are beautiful, stable, well-behaved systems. And if you want to run Linux then, yes, you can save money by not paying for Apple hardware.
The marginal value of a Mac is the OS, not the hardware, and certainly not the hardware *specs*. If any part of the hardware is superior it is the design not the components. But even the case of the computer isn't so special as the operating system.
It's awesome to be able to say that when you roll around with gummy-pads of five-dollar bills. (Which, by the way, is the top item on my list of things to do when I become a billionaire.)
Can you confirm that Jobs in the early days cheated you out of some early profits by under-reporting the sale price of some products? I heard that somewhere and it made me think quite a bit less of him -- but then again his kindness isn't what made him a great man.
Although that is true, it is also true that if Jobs hadn't left, then Apple certainly would have folded. While away, Jobs learned all the things about business that he didn't know before. When he came back he was both a marketing genius AND a respectable businessman.
It's a shame that being an Eagle Scout is now a scarlet letter instead of a marker of achievement. Perhaps one day you won't have to hide your Eagle Scout status in order to be accepted in society, but BSA will have a lot of apologizing to do before that could happen.
You might have missed the memo, but BSA is no longer a way to make a superlative comparison. Back in the 1990s, BSA stopped being a respectable organization. Even though their previous goodwill sustained them until recently, it is now universally admonished by moral people who are paying attention. It is now a group full of bigots and hypocrites, the hypocrites being those who still lie to themselves in saying "I can change it from the inside!" No, you can't.
On the other hand, I don't have anything bad to say about the Freemasons. That could be, though, because I don't pay attention to the Freemasons.
Hobbyists like that keep up with hot tech so today they are building scaleable websites in the cloud using 100% free and Free tools. Like with Woz, a tiny percentage of these become insanely great new businesses.
Some people still like to mix their own paint for their painting hobby, and some people still like to clip together chips for their Arduino project, but most hobbyists prefer to do things with the current generation of technology. Ask Woz whether he felt like a sellout because he messed around with computers instead of (thinks back to previous generation's tech) internal combustion engines.
Thank you for explaining that. I would like to point out that a "fine" comes from the government so I find this headline and article misleading. Nobody was fined. Microsoft paid a cost for power according to its contract with the power company. There is no problem with this, except that they need to negotiate a new contract.
I embrace this technology. If they offer an API, it would be easy to write a NoFatties iPhone app. To really capture the market I would also write a ChubbyChaser app.
"anything after that is just clogging up your colon and your arteries"
No, it's not "just" clogging up your colon and your arteries. Even if it is doing those things, which I doubt, the overwhelming variable is that it is also enjoyable. Enjoyment is the dominant variable, so you're going to have to convince me that I don't enjoy eating steak.
(That actually won't be very hard with me because beef steak isn't one of my favorite foods. But the general point is valid: if you try to take away something I enjoy daily based on a possible marginal increase in disease risk decades from now, you're never going to convince me. It goes to the meaning of life.)
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When advertisers ignore the voluntary setting, we'll get a law mandating it. Typically Congress gives industry a chance to regulate itself, then steps in if it fails. Compare to do-not-call and annualcreditreport.com. Also compare to movie ratings, which is a voluntary regulation successful enough to fend off Congressional action.
"Its not a crime to ignore the DNT flag"
That depends on whether he was speaking literally or figuratively. I immediately recognized (assumed) that tonywestonuk was speaking figuratively, in which case he is right, but if he was speaking literally (as you apparently assume) then you are right.
"there can never be a law to make it a crime"
Are you speaking literally or figuratively? Of course, literally speaking, there could easily be a law to make it a crime.
"microsoft actions have made DNT not a true indicator of a users preference."
I'd like to know how you came to this conclusion. It seems to me that almost everyone would prefer the setting and thus Microsoft's actions have set the default setting according to the majority of the actual user preference. Similarly, Microsoft also has anti-spam featured turned on automatically in its email systems based on the assumption that people don't want to receive spam. Would you decry that as a violation of "true" user preference?
Personally I am shocked that Microsoft is taking this action. It's the number-one most consumer-friendly thing I've ever heard of them doing -- literally.
Oh, okay, thanks. Thank you for pointing out how all the Windows naysayers have no authority on technology. You totally convinced me. I totally see now how Windows is awesome and that is why all the smartest people in the software industry use it as their preferred platform. How foolish I have been! Woe is me! No more Unix for me, I'm a Windows man from here on out.
I don't know any gamers who "want to run Windows" but I know a lot who "want to run a favorite game". Nobody wants to run Windows. People simply want to run their Windows-only program, so they put up with Windows to do that. Some people don't know better and think Windows is all there is, but those people don't read Slashdot.
/sigh
Every day at work. They pay me well to put up with Windows. Windows 7 is a steaming pile of shit -- other versions of Windows were worse.
Which part, the donkey shit? Yeah, I guess I do. Windows is a toy operating system, a technological travesty. To compare two computers, one which runs Windows and another which runs (Windows and) Mac OS, is to compare two computers which do completely different tasks. They don't compare; people don't buy Macs to run (only) Windows.
It sounds like you really don't know about what they call the "security chip". That's the secret ingredient. You can bypass it if you can do a little hacking, but that is the "fairy dust" which prevents "completely standard Intel-based hardware" from running Mac OS. (And therefore it is specifically *not* completely standard.)
"Easily run Windows 7" is not a feature, it is a bug. Windows is as good of an operating system as a pile of donkey shit on the bottom of the ocean. If you want to run Windows, you don't need Apple hardware, you simply need to kill yourself. And if you want to run Linux, then you are a rockstar who doesn't need to pay for Apple hardware to have a good computer experience. For the rest of people, they pay the cost to run the best consumer-oriented OS.
Yes, I'm sure. And I'm pretty sure we're talking about the same Steve Jobs -- I'm talking about the famous one.
Thanks for asking. /rolls eyes
I was also a Scout. My experience, like yours, had very little religious nonsense (despite troop meetings held in a church) nor did anyone every say anything about homosexuals. It was not an issue at all. That was back in the late 80s and early 90s.
Furthermore, I doubt that many troops sit around disparaging atheists or homosexuals. Maybe a few do that, but probably not many. That's nice, but that's not all that matters. It really does matter who leads the organization, what policies they put in place, and what process they use to re-evaluate those policies. In the case of the BSA, the leaders are dedicated political-right Christian-specific anti-gay true believers. They represent a minority viewpoint within the organization, I'm sure, but they also represent the official organizational viewpoint.
It's true, the USA screws up a lot, but cut us some slack. We've done a pretty good job as the leading beacon of freedom and democracy. At least we can still criticize our government, defend our lives using deadly force and vote for our head of state, unlike the next several of the most important countries. (In Russia you can't criticize the government; in Britain you can't defend yourself using deadly force nor vote for the head of state.)
But the Boys Scouts of America can eat me. They deserve no slack. It's nice to hear that other countries don't have such bigoted Scouts.
It's only important insofar as I spend time thinking about the great man, Steve Jobs. "Great" means 'grand', not 'very good'. There are many greatly bad men in history and most great people are a mix of good and bad. Most of us agree that Jobs did enormous good for the world, and the flipside of that coin is some apparently deep personal ethical failings. Cheating your "close and personal friend (not to mention business partner)" would be one of those ethical failings. Knowing more of the whole picture allows us peons to ponder what greatness means when we ponder a man like Jobs.
I understand what you mean by "specs", but if you want to make this comparison you need compare a Mac to a PC that will run the Mac OS. If it doesn't run the Mac OS, then it isn't "comparably spec'd". Windows is not "comparable" to Mac OS or Linux. Windows is a steaming pile of shit while Mac OS and Linux are beautiful, stable, well-behaved systems. And if you want to run Linux then, yes, you can save money by not paying for Apple hardware.
The marginal value of a Mac is the OS, not the hardware, and certainly not the hardware *specs*. If any part of the hardware is superior it is the design not the components. But even the case of the computer isn't so special as the operating system.
"money is not my thing in life"
It's awesome to be able to say that when you roll around with gummy-pads of five-dollar bills. (Which, by the way, is the top item on my list of things to do when I become a billionaire.)
Can you confirm that Jobs in the early days cheated you out of some early profits by under-reporting the sale price of some products? I heard that somewhere and it made me think quite a bit less of him -- but then again his kindness isn't what made him a great man.
Although that is true, it is also true that if Jobs hadn't left, then Apple certainly would have folded. While away, Jobs learned all the things about business that he didn't know before. When he came back he was both a marketing genius AND a respectable businessman.
"we ported iTunes to Windows. We now addressed 100% of the world's market"
Oh, snap, you're going to piss off the Linux users.
"They're the most powerful company ever"
The Dutch East India Company begs to differ, but I myself forgive you because I assume you meant "valuable".
PS I wrote that before I looked it up. These history buffs agree with me with the possible alteration of s/Dutch/British/.
"I'm an Eagle Scout myself"
It's a shame that being an Eagle Scout is now a scarlet letter instead of a marker of achievement. Perhaps one day you won't have to hide your Eagle Scout status in order to be accepted in society, but BSA will have a lot of apologizing to do before that could happen.
You might have missed the memo, but BSA is no longer a way to make a superlative comparison. Back in the 1990s, BSA stopped being a respectable organization. Even though their previous goodwill sustained them until recently, it is now universally admonished by moral people who are paying attention. It is now a group full of bigots and hypocrites, the hypocrites being those who still lie to themselves in saying "I can change it from the inside!" No, you can't.
On the other hand, I don't have anything bad to say about the Freemasons. That could be, though, because I don't pay attention to the Freemasons.
The feeling might be mutual. Freemasons are well known for finding no possible way to take seriously a person who can't identify an adverb.
Hobbyists like that keep up with hot tech so today they are building scaleable websites in the cloud using 100% free and Free tools. Like with Woz, a tiny percentage of these become insanely great new businesses.
Some people still like to mix their own paint for their painting hobby, and some people still like to clip together chips for their Arduino project, but most hobbyists prefer to do things with the current generation of technology. Ask Woz whether he felt like a sellout because he messed around with computers instead of (thinks back to previous generation's tech) internal combustion engines.
Thank you for explaining that. I would like to point out that a "fine" comes from the government so I find this headline and article misleading. Nobody was fined. Microsoft paid a cost for power according to its contract with the power company. There is no problem with this, except that they need to negotiate a new contract.
I embrace this technology. If they offer an API, it would be easy to write a NoFatties iPhone app. To really capture the market I would also write a ChubbyChaser app.
Because the problem of starvation is not a problem of production but one of distribution.
"anything after that is just clogging up your colon and your arteries"
No, it's not "just" clogging up your colon and your arteries. Even if it is doing those things, which I doubt, the overwhelming variable is that it is also enjoyable. Enjoyment is the dominant variable, so you're going to have to convince me that I don't enjoy eating steak.
(That actually won't be very hard with me because beef steak isn't one of my favorite foods. But the general point is valid: if you try to take away something I enjoy daily based on a possible marginal increase in disease risk decades from now, you're never going to convince me. It goes to the meaning of life.)