When you do it before the old tech goes out to the recycler it is easy.
Which works really well, until you have to do a forced upgrade due to hardware failure.
The biggest problem is proprietary formats of the data, not the carriers.
Again, which is fine until some content industry goon manages to bribe a bureaucrat and get some law passed that you have to have non-disableable hardware DRM, and you can no longer transfer the files you created yourself to a new machine.
I've read a couple of the links, and discovered that the storage posts essentially look like several really long lines of this: "evaTabwtAW3656357sbrYTAW634btasASFGAW35"
You couldn't tune your spam filter to remove this kind of stuff? That sounds particularly lame, as you could just filter out any text posting with a word longer than, say, 25 characters. Or a word containing numbers, for that matter....
Getting all pissy about it just makes you look like a dweeb who can't secure his site, and gets mad at somebody who uses a freely open posting site on the public Internet for posting free and open comments.
In the exact same way that eMule and bittorent allow you to retrieve a file from dozens or hundreds of untrusted computers, and still know you've got the correct file.
2000 years ago, not much hard copy information was created, but it was written on sheepskin, and the like, most which is still available now.
800 years ago, much more information was created, and it was written on papyrus, some of which has degraded, but some of which is still available now.
70 years ago, great amounts of information was created, and it was recorded on newsprint, or those new fangled "phonograph" thingies, many of which have deteriorated or been otherwise destroyed, but some of which are available now.
10 years ago, vast, incomprehensible amounts of information were created, mostly stored in electronic digital formats, the great majority of which is not accessible today, although small amounts of it is.
What in the world makes you think that in 40 years there will be a "more future-proof media"? I'd guess in 40 years we'll have data formats and storage that last on the order of minutes, rather than years.
However, will we have something capable of reading it in 20-50 years? Probably. But will we have something capable of reading 8 1/2 x 11 paper, which will double as a punch card reader? Even more likely.
Also, microfilm is made of plastic, which melts, deteriorates and becomes cloudy, and many other ways of becoming unreadable. Paper, no matter how much it turns yellow, will still be readable if the information on it is holes through the paper.
Because every time you rescan the photo would result in data loss. Scanning-printing-scanning-printing would eventually result in a blurred mess that was unrecognizable as the original pic.
Scanning the punched cards and recreating the image from them, on the other hand, would give you the exact binary data used to create the photo in the first place.
Looking at the picture, I'd say it's probably the light and shadow areas, as well as the obvious layers of rocks, which fool our brain into seeing a 3D image where none exists.
I've seen a similar thing before where it shows a pic of what looks like a bunch of dents lit from above, then asks if that's what it is, or if it's bumps lit from below.
Kinda neat, and warps your mind in weird and wonderful ways.:)
I was thinking along the same lines...probably the most future-proof format would be something like a jpeg, encoded into punched cards.
Even if you don't have a reader, you could use any old optical scanner, and write a (probably somewhat simple, as far as OCR goes) program to convert the images into....well, in this case, another image.
Fricking cowards! They're all alike! Pop in just long enough to lob a comment grenade your way, then run off with their tail between their legs!
Shoot the bloody lot of them, I say!!
Now, onto more serious stuff....
BTW....Debian is a great server OS. Rock solid stable, some of the fastest security patching in the industry, and doesn't even attempt to get you to install a GUI on your server.
Don't allow slut mode for everything. Figure out what sites they use for the training, and add them to the trusted sites list.
I've seen this before in various places, and always disregarded the instructions for setting it up, and figure out what sites to add, instead. They end up a lot more secure when I've finished setting them up, than if the instructions were followed.
I'm sorry, but I was doing fine until you made that statement.
At the risk of being modded troll or flamebait - which this definitely is not - you have no right to express to Americans who SHOULD NOT be running our country - plain and simple, as you say, this isn't your country.
I have liked and disliked foreign politicians in my time, but have never had the audacity or arrogance to suggest that someone should or should not be running some other country - I simply am one of those Americans that does not believe that I'm in the right telling other people in other countries what they should or shouldn't do.
Ordinarily, I'd agree with you. But when your leader's decisions screw up things for people in other countries, those other countries damned well do have a right to say who should or shouldn't be running that country.
Not that it's going to do any good, but I have a right to complain about any government on the planet.
It's part of that free speech thing you Americans claim to value so much.
How does this decision screw up things for me? Well, an awful lot of Internet traffic goes through the US. If I load a webpage, what right does a foreign government have to know what the heck I'm doing? I can view a Canadian web page on a computer in Canada, and the US can eavesdrop on my browsing. Apparently, without a warrant, and without any oversight.
Sorry, but that's BS, and your government sucks rocks for doing it.
And anybody who agrees with what they're doing, shouldn't be running the country.
Slashdot Mirror
They have been the "first to" do a lot of things.
First Post!!!
Oh...wait.......
When you do it before the old tech goes out to the recycler it is easy.
Which works really well, until you have to do a forced upgrade due to hardware failure.
The biggest problem is proprietary formats of the data, not the carriers.
Again, which is fine until some content industry goon manages to bribe a bureaucrat and get some law passed that you have to have non-disableable hardware DRM, and you can no longer transfer the files you created yourself to a new machine.
Don't think it can't happen.....
The grammar nazi's period
In the same way slashdot is referred to as /., other words can be replaced with their punctuation counterpart.
Examples:
= rights for the female % of the population.
/. is full of morons, I !ed to my friend.
I need to - to the store.
Although, I'll give you, it's still a pretty scary situation that he stated....
Actually, it looks more like UUencoding that any kind of compression.
That would be easy to decode, regardless of the size of your piece.
Now, whether that decoded piece would make any sense is another question entirely. Especially if it's a UUencoded .zip file. :)
I've read a couple of the links, and discovered that the storage posts essentially look like several really long lines of this:
"evaTabwtAW3656357sbrYTAW634btasASFGAW35"
You couldn't tune your spam filter to remove this kind of stuff? That sounds particularly lame, as you could just filter out any text posting with a word longer than, say, 25 characters. Or a word containing numbers, for that matter....
Getting all pissy about it just makes you look like a dweeb who can't secure his site, and gets mad at somebody who uses a freely open posting site on the public Internet for posting free and open comments.
The fact that some "home owner" forgot to lock the door to their house does not constitute trespassing!
Actually, in a lot of countries, this is entirely accurate.
You're only trespassing if you don't leave when asked.
In the exact same way that eMule and bittorent allow you to retrieve a file from dozens or hundreds of untrusted computers, and still know you've got the correct file.
Hashes.
They're using a power buffer to polish their car.
Come on! Get with the program!
2000 years ago, not much hard copy information was created, but it was written on sheepskin, and the like, most which is still available now.
800 years ago, much more information was created, and it was written on papyrus, some of which has degraded, but some of which is still available now.
70 years ago, great amounts of information was created, and it was recorded on newsprint, or those new fangled "phonograph" thingies, many of which have deteriorated or been otherwise destroyed, but some of which are available now.
10 years ago, vast, incomprehensible amounts of information were created, mostly stored in electronic digital formats, the great majority of which is not accessible today, although small amounts of it is.
What in the world makes you think that in 40 years there will be a "more future-proof media"? I'd guess in 40 years we'll have data formats and storage that last on the order of minutes, rather than years.
In theory, yes, it would last longer.
However, will we have something capable of reading it in 20-50 years?
Probably.
But will we have something capable of reading 8 1/2 x 11 paper, which will double as a punch card reader?
Even more likely.
Also, microfilm is made of plastic, which melts, deteriorates and becomes cloudy, and many other ways of becoming unreadable.
Paper, no matter how much it turns yellow, will still be readable if the information on it is holes through the paper.
Because every time you rescan the photo would result in data loss. Scanning-printing-scanning-printing would eventually result in a blurred mess that was unrecognizable as the original pic.
Scanning the punched cards and recreating the image from them, on the other hand, would give you the exact binary data used to create the photo in the first place.
Looking at the picture, I'd say it's probably the light and shadow areas, as well as the obvious layers of rocks, which fool our brain into seeing a 3D image where none exists.
I've seen a similar thing before where it shows a pic of what looks like a bunch of dents lit from above, then asks if that's what it is, or if it's bumps lit from below.
Kinda neat, and warps your mind in weird and wonderful ways. :)
I was thinking along the same lines...probably the most future-proof format would be something like a jpeg, encoded into punched cards.
Even if you don't have a reader, you could use any old optical scanner, and write a (probably somewhat simple, as far as OCR goes) program to convert the images into....well, in this case, another image.
When they recovered them, they stored them safely on 5.25" floppy disks, where they'd be readable for a long time to co....
Wait a minute....
Guess I'm not on the Republican party's spam list.
Which I'm pretty glad for, really.
Partisan politics just gets me pissed, regardless of who's side it is.....
That's actually:
"Goo-goo-g'jube"
Not that it makes much difference, as it's drug-induced, either way.....
ur all freaks thats what u r
Yeah, but then you're only blowing up stuff like computers, washing machines, microwaves, and occasionally a motorcycle or car engine.
You can't fit people inside any of those, (except the car, but not inside the engine) so that's small time stuff. And you're right....very social. :)
WTF does Obama have to do with the Virginia State Government?
Bad attitude?
BAD ATTITUDE?!?
I'll show you BAD ATTITUDE, you moron!!
Fricking cowards! They're all alike! Pop in just long enough to lob a comment grenade your way, then run off with their tail between their legs!
Shoot the bloody lot of them, I say!!
Now, onto more serious stuff....
BTW....Debian is a great server OS. Rock solid stable, some of the fastest security patching in the industry, and doesn't even attempt to get you to install a GUI on your server.
Why the heck doesn't the military have their own CA, and import the CA cert into the image of all their machines?
I know, I know.....military intelligence....
You should have been able to fix this yourself.
Don't allow slut mode for everything.
Figure out what sites they use for the training, and add them to the trusted sites list.
I've seen this before in various places, and always disregarded the instructions for setting it up, and figure out what sites to add, instead.
They end up a lot more secure when I've finished setting them up, than if the instructions were followed.
Imagine a car hanging by a spring from the end of a stick.....
Either way, he shouldn't be running your country.
I'm sorry, but I was doing fine until you made that statement.
At the risk of being modded troll or flamebait - which this definitely is not - you have no right to express to Americans who SHOULD NOT be running our country - plain and simple, as you say, this isn't your country.
I have liked and disliked foreign politicians in my time, but have never had the audacity or arrogance to suggest that someone should or should not be running some other country - I simply am one of those Americans that does not believe that I'm in the right telling other people in other countries what they should or shouldn't do.
Ordinarily, I'd agree with you. But when your leader's decisions screw up things for people in other countries, those other countries damned well do have a right to say who should or shouldn't be running that country.
Not that it's going to do any good, but I have a right to complain about any government on the planet.
It's part of that free speech thing you Americans claim to value so much.
How does this decision screw up things for me? Well, an awful lot of Internet traffic goes through the US. If I load a webpage, what right does a foreign government have to know what the heck I'm doing? I can view a Canadian web page on a computer in Canada, and the US can eavesdrop on my browsing. Apparently, without a warrant, and without any oversight.
Sorry, but that's BS, and your government sucks rocks for doing it.
And anybody who agrees with what they're doing, shouldn't be running the country.
Until the government raids and confiscates the servers that the site is hosted on....
Oh, wait..... this isn't Phoenix....