Non violent Trump supporter here. I see Hillary as the authoritarian (private mail server), irrational(shameless liar) and dangerous(Benghazi) candidate in this race. She is dishonest, corrupt, dangerous and petty. Worse she corrupts others. She is everything we do not want in our government. I want my government to work for the people, not for themselves.
You can have 6 million dollars to build a ($100k) web site, you can hire your friends/family to build it. Your friends and family can then give some of the money back to you (campaign contributions, discount stock, discount realestate, i.e. money laundering). Nobody cares if the web site actually works, and you all get to keep the money. This is why people do not want to give (more) money to governments.
Just to be clear, the debt obligation could have been met. without raising the debt ceiling, it is that sort of misinformation that really bothers me (not directed at you, I mean the media reporting and rhetoric from both sides). Neither side wanted to debate the spending choices if they did not raise the dc, this is where I think they are all grossly irresponsible.
I like your 2014 senerio, I would support the president's and the senates rights to do that, if they believed it was that important. These are the rules they govern under. Would I like it? maybe not, will I call them names for standing up for what they believe? I hope not. Some people believe the Congress did push a major unilateral policy change, in ACA, that is what this debate was about this week. The damage or benefits of that remain to be seen.
Government is probably the biggest single expenditure in my budget, bigger then my savings, my housing, transportation, or food. I do not think what I (or the rest of humanity) gets for that price, is worth it. The dabate this past week was about how your and my tax money is being spent. I want our government to do a better job with it, and I was glad to see a healthy debate, and get a more clear picture or where are elected representatives stand on the issue of fiscal responsibility.
Ok, good, they already have the legislative majority in the House. They do have the power to spend (or not) money, under the Constitution, which is what they did offer. They tried to limit the damage they saw would be caused by Obamacare/ACA.
Then the other side said something like "Do it my way or I'll start breaking shit and ruin it for everybody" And proceded to try to break and ruin things.
I am willing to cause less damage then I see the government causing now.
I am willing to follow the Constitution and the normal processes of the republic outlined in that document, that would include elections and voting. I will support like minded individuals. Based on that, do you have any suggestions?
Well, someone should be trying to limit the government, if it is only the tea party doing that, they have my support. Who else would you suggest I support, if I believe in limited government?
I agree, the House of Representatives should have refused to negotiate, when the Senate and President threatened to default on the debt, unless the House let them go deeper into debt. Everyone knows there is money to service the debt, without raising the debt ceiling.
How could this be moded "insightful"? Can slash dot add some somd other options like "partisan", "astro turfer". "name caller", "rhetoric", "I heard this on tv"?
The democrats voted that obamacare/aca. and their being exempted from it was more important then passing CR, or Debt Ceiling. Both partys had several opportunities to "open the government", but they voted for what they thougt was important.
Media "outrage" is out rage without action, what is called for is action. Big Media will not take action. I cannot blame Big Media for their failures, I can boycott them, which more and more people seem to be doing, Big Media revenues, and ratings are going down steadily. BIg Media's primary job is earning money, and they are not very good at that, how can we expect them to be good at a seconday job, like providing accurate useful information?
We have freedom of press, but that does not require press to be accurate/honest,in fact it means the opposite, it is my responsibility, to find the truth.
We the people, collectively, have access to all the information the NSA does. The genie is out of the bottle, there is no realistic expectation that the survailance will stop. As with any technology race, the answer is to counter the survailance. The same is true of BIg Media, the counter is alternative media, civilian video and reporting of events.
I wish more people I talked with had as much fear and skepticism about Big Media and BIg Government as they do about Big Business (Big Corporation).
1) Local school boards are the solution, they have been supplanted by mandates (money with strings attached, by state and federal governments). When parents, with skin in the game, are on the boards the schools are better. Look at the successes of private/charter/home schools. They find the federal and state money often costs more then it provides.
2) God forbid you teach someone so that they can pass a test. Just what should teacher retention/performance be tied to? It is not how much money you have it is what you do with it.
3) There is no evidence that both parents need to work, that is a choice. If you feel like you cannot afford it, do not have childeren, if you want to have children you may have to make some sacrifices.
Lastly, poor edudation seems to be more a city problem, then a national problem. The largest city districts seem to produce the lowest quality educations at the highest proces. I do not want to here excuses, when people want good educations for themselves or their children, they go and get it in spite of the challenges.
It may be rebublican/deomcrat/green/libertarian/occupy party doctrine that all Federal workers will get backpay, I think the point is, that history has been that they have gotten backpay. The smaller government is, the easier it is to mamage, the closer to home the government is, the more access I have to the decision makers, and the greater impact we can have on their decisions.
No, I spelled it the way I intended. It is not just the federal government that plays these games. Every time there is a local funding vote where I live the people in favor of bigger governmnet alway threaten to cut things that they belive will hurt/scare people; libraries, school buses, police, garbage, roads, etc. I for one, resent my elected representatives, or the employes of our government threatening us.
I would add that many of the closures seem vindictive and petty. If the govenment served the citizens. they would work to make this "shutdown" as painless as possible on the citizens. Instead, many politicians seem to be trying to make it as painful as possible.
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Non violent Trump supporter here. I see Hillary as the authoritarian (private mail server), irrational(shameless liar) and dangerous(Benghazi) candidate in this race. She is dishonest, corrupt, dangerous and petty. Worse she corrupts others.
She is everything we do not want in our government. I want my government to work for the people, not for themselves.
don't use google, don't use google name servers.
Facebook uses humans to edit content, these are not accidents.
I am not retarded. I believe him more then I believe his opponent.
You can have 6 million dollars to build a ($100k) web site, you can hire your friends/family to build it. Your friends and family can then give some of the money back to you (campaign contributions, discount stock, discount realestate, i.e. money laundering).
Nobody cares if the web site actually works, and you all get to keep the money. This is why people do not want to give (more) money to governments.
what gun?
Unilateral, means one sided.
Do I need to get a 2nd account for my phone, too?
Just to be clear, the debt obligation could have been met. without raising the debt ceiling, it is that sort of misinformation that really bothers me (not directed at you, I mean the media reporting and rhetoric from both sides). Neither side wanted to debate the spending choices if they did not raise the dc, this is where I think they are all grossly irresponsible.
I like your 2014 senerio, I would support the president's and the senates rights to do that, if they believed it was that important. These are the rules they govern under. Would I like it? maybe not, will I call them names for standing up for what they believe? I hope not.
Some people believe the Congress did push a major unilateral policy change, in ACA, that is what this debate was about this week. The damage or benefits of that remain to be seen.
Government is probably the biggest single expenditure in my budget, bigger then my savings, my housing, transportation, or food. I do not think what I (or the rest of humanity) gets for that price, is worth it. The dabate this past week was about how your and my tax money is being spent. I want our government to do a better job with it, and I was glad to see a healthy debate, and get a more clear picture or where are elected representatives stand on the issue of fiscal responsibility.
Ok, good, they already have the legislative majority in the House.
They do have the power to spend (or not) money, under the Constitution, which is what they did offer.
They tried to limit the damage they saw would be caused by Obamacare/ACA.
Then the other side said something like "Do it my way or I'll start breaking shit and ruin it for everybody"
And proceded to try to break and ruin things.
I am willing to cause less damage then I see the government causing now.
I am willing to follow the Constitution and the normal processes of the republic outlined in that document, that would include elections and voting. I will support like minded individuals. Based on that, do you have any suggestions?
Well, someone should be trying to limit the government, if it is only the tea party doing that, they have my support. Who else would you suggest I support, if I believe in limited government?
I agree, the House of Representatives should have refused to negotiate, when the Senate and President threatened to default on the debt, unless the House let them go deeper into debt. Everyone knows there is money to service the debt, without raising the debt ceiling.
How could this be moded "insightful"?
Can slash dot add some somd other options like "partisan", "astro turfer". "name caller", "rhetoric", "I heard this on tv"?
The democrats voted that obamacare/aca. and their being exempted from it was more important then passing CR, or Debt Ceiling.
Both partys had several opportunities to "open the government", but they voted for what they thougt was important.
Media "outrage" is out rage without action, what is called for is action. Big Media will not take action. I cannot blame Big Media for their failures, I can boycott them, which more and more people seem to be doing, Big Media revenues, and ratings are going down steadily. BIg Media's primary job is earning money, and they are not very good at that, how can we expect them to be good at a seconday job, like providing accurate useful information?
We have freedom of press, but that does not require press to be accurate/honest,in fact it means the opposite, it is my responsibility, to find the truth.
We the people, collectively, have access to all the information the NSA does. The genie is out of the bottle, there is no realistic expectation that the survailance will stop. As with any technology race, the answer is to counter the survailance. The same is true of BIg Media, the counter is alternative media, civilian video and reporting of events.
I wish more people I talked with had as much fear and skepticism about Big Media and BIg Government as they do about Big Business (Big Corporation).
god speed
Everyone (outside of slashdot) was OK with it when Bush was president and the patriot act was passed, why be so against it now?
And when he had the chance Obama did not repeal the patriot act.
I do not see this as a left/right, liberal/conservative, democrat/republican issue. This is a citizens versus government issue.
The problem with a secret, is there is no way to know that it remains secret.
You do not need an education, trust us. Every time I heare a politician say "workers', in head I hear them say "Our workers"
I will address them
1) Local school boards are the solution, they have been supplanted by mandates (money with strings attached, by state and federal governments).
When parents, with skin in the game, are on the boards the schools are better. Look at the successes of private/charter/home schools. They find the
federal and state money often costs more then it provides.
2) God forbid you teach someone so that they can pass a test. Just what should teacher retention/performance be tied to? It is not how much money you have it is what you do with it.
3) There is no evidence that both parents need to work, that is a choice. If you feel like you cannot afford it, do not have childeren, if you want to have children you may have to make some sacrifices.
Lastly, poor edudation seems to be more a city problem, then a national problem. The largest city districts seem to produce the lowest quality
educations at the highest proces. I do not want to here excuses, when people want good educations for themselves or their children, they go and get it in spite of the challenges.
We will be told more money will solve the problem. Closing it down will solve the problem also.
Can you please define "rich people"?
What is this world coming to when people resort to a website called "Crowdtilt" as a replacement for government?
Providing for the common defense. What the government does not do for us, we should do for ourselves.
Good point.
It may be rebublican/deomcrat/green/libertarian/occupy party doctrine that all Federal workers will get backpay, I think the point is, that history has been that they have gotten backpay.
The smaller government is, the easier it is to mamage, the closer to home the government is, the more access I have to the decision makers, and the greater impact we can have on their decisions.
No, I spelled it the way I intended. It is not just the federal government that plays these games. Every time there is a local funding vote where I live the people in favor of bigger governmnet alway threaten to cut things that they belive will hurt/scare people; libraries, school buses, police, garbage, roads, etc.
I for one, resent my elected representatives, or the employes of our government threatening us.
It is worth stating again :
They received back-pay in the last shutdown and most likely will in this one as well, when the government is running again.
I would add that many of the closures seem vindictive and petty. If the govenment served the citizens. they would work to make this "shutdown" as painless as possible on the citizens. Instead, many politicians seem to be trying to make it as painful as possible.