Dick lives in a house. Dick's house is in a neighborhood. Dick's neighbors live in the neighborhood. All the houses in Dick's neighborhood have doormats in their yards. Some of Dick's neighbors keep their extra house keys under their doormat. Dick finds this out and is very concerned that someone could find the keys and unlock the houses. Dick puts up signs all over the neighborhood. The signs say that some people have been keeping their keys under their doormats. Dick says this is bad. Dick lists all the neighbors who he knows keep their keys under their doormats.
Since no one cares about my post except me, I'll be the first to reply to it. That same D senator from VT who could barely mumble and stumble through a coherent sentence said "I love [PGP]". Pretty cool.
I watched the whole thing last night on CSPAN2. At one point the Gnutella developer (Gene Kan?) quoted something Lars said in the Slashdot interview. He prefaced it by saying it was on "slashdot, a popular geek site". The impossibly old D senator from VT questioned him a few minutes later saying in his mumbled, broken speech ~ "er, we've got the edu's and the gov's and the com's, what's this now, the.geeks?" At another point the R senator from Utah- I believe- was reading a quote from a paper he had in front of him about some software that was able to report a copyright offenders Intellectual Property Address- which he inline translated to when he saw IP Address. Despite the clearly non-technology-savy senators involved, I was (impressed may be too strong a word- but i'll use it anyway) impressed with the fact that genuinely did seem to want to figure out the right thing to do, as opposed to having knee-jerk reactions to things like Napster and Gnutella.
What your going to see, dodo, is companies rising up to offer support for open source products. So in addition to having tons of online resources and direct access to developers through email, their will in fact be commerical support. One of the things that Open Source allows for is third party support. It may not be there yet, but its going to be. Okay, I mean it. Especially the dodo thing.
What we're seeing here is a big, old, fat dichotomy between the software engineering community who consider themselves engineers and the open source community who thinks of themselves as programmers or coders. I've traditionally always fallen into the latter group, however there is no doubt in my mind that the SE tactic of actually coming up with a sensible plan in advance is better. *This concept does NOT threaten open source software.* What it threatens is the culture of open source community. There's a difference between hundreds of programmers simultaneously fixing bugs within a predesigned and well thought out architechture, and those same hundred programmers randomly going off on their own design tangents. Any successful open source project has some kind of centralized authority- even if it a guy who just does the builds. What I'd like to see is a vast expansion of the whole TODO file concept. Rather than have a handful of items listed such as: "Somebody needs to figure out a way to blah blah", the TODO list should be a detailed spec. The process of coming up with that spec could itself be an distributed process but a very detailed and heavily reviewed spec should be developed before everyone starts coding.
When someone is suggesting getting a free web-based email address, its always "Get a Hotmail account or something.." They don't really mean specifcally a Hotmail account.. it's just easier to say Hotmail than "free web-based email".
Boy is that a novel idea. That is what everyone's talking about. Thanks for spelling it out so clearly. Now all we need is someone to implement your idea. Oh wait, that's right someone already did. Nevermind.
Vx definitions revisited - its a Trorm
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The angry assertions by slashdot readers that this is "not a worm!" are a little unfair. A statement such as "well, its not really a worm" might be a little more appropriate. It's more of a trojan with worm-like properties. This is a brand new animal, I believe. Doesn't a trojan that replicates- even if the mechanism of replication happens to require human assistance- deserve a name of its own? A worming trojan? A trorm? No one would deny that it doesn't implement the replication thing the same as your historical worms, but there's not really a classification for this type of animal yet. It all seems very wormy to me.
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... or they'll move their spare keys to a slightly different spot, say under a rock a few feet away.
Dick lives in a house. Dick's house is in a neighborhood. Dick's neighbors live in the neighborhood. All the houses in Dick's neighborhood have doormats in their yards. Some of Dick's neighbors keep their extra house keys under their doormat. Dick finds this out and is very concerned that someone could find the keys and unlock the houses. Dick puts up signs all over the neighborhood. The signs say that some people have been keeping their keys under their doormats. Dick says this is bad. Dick lists all the neighbors who he knows keep their keys under their doormats.
Since no one cares about my post except me, I'll be the first to reply to it. That same D senator from VT who could barely mumble and stumble through a coherent sentence said "I love [PGP]". Pretty cool.
I watched the whole thing last night on CSPAN2. At one point the Gnutella developer (Gene Kan?) quoted something Lars said in the Slashdot interview. He prefaced it by saying it was on "slashdot, a popular geek site". The impossibly old D senator from VT questioned him a few minutes later saying in his mumbled, broken speech ~ "er, we've got the edu's and the gov's and the com's, what's this now, the .geeks?" At another point the R senator from Utah- I believe- was reading a quote from a paper he had in front of him about some software that was able to report a copyright offenders Intellectual Property Address- which he inline translated to when he saw IP Address. Despite the clearly non-technology-savy senators involved, I was (impressed may be too strong a word- but i'll use it anyway) impressed with the fact that genuinely did seem to want to figure out the right thing to do, as opposed to having knee-jerk reactions to things like Napster and Gnutella.
What your going to see, dodo, is companies rising up to offer support for open source products. So in addition to having tons of online resources and direct access to developers through email, their will in fact be commerical support. One of the things that Open Source allows for is third party support. It may not be there yet, but its going to be. Okay, I mean it. Especially the dodo thing.
What we're seeing here is a big, old, fat dichotomy between the software engineering community who consider themselves engineers and the open source community who thinks of themselves as programmers or coders. I've traditionally always fallen into the latter group, however there is no doubt in my mind that the SE tactic of actually coming up with a sensible plan in advance is better. *This concept does NOT threaten open source software.* What it threatens is the culture of open source community. There's a difference between hundreds of programmers simultaneously fixing bugs within a predesigned and well thought out architechture, and those same hundred programmers randomly going off on their own design tangents. Any successful open source project has some kind of centralized authority- even if it a guy who just does the builds. What I'd like to see is a vast expansion of the whole TODO file concept. Rather than have a handful of items listed such as: "Somebody needs to figure out a way to blah blah", the TODO list should be a detailed spec. The process of coming up with that spec could itself be an distributed process but a very detailed and heavily reviewed spec should be developed before everyone starts coding.
When someone is suggesting getting a free web-based email address, its always "Get a Hotmail account or something.." They don't really mean specifcally a Hotmail account.. it's just easier to say Hotmail than "free web-based email".
>Security Through Obscurity... tsk tsk tsk, tsk what? He took the machine down and told everyone that the drive had crashed. This was smart.
keep reading comments and you'll soon learn that its an .exe file made to look like a movie to the untrained I. e.g. pornmovie.mpg.exe
Boy is that a novel idea. That is what everyone's talking about. Thanks for spelling it out so clearly. Now all we need is someone to implement your idea. Oh wait, that's right someone already did. Nevermind.
The angry assertions by slashdot readers that this is "not a worm!" are a little unfair. A statement such as "well, its not really a worm" might be a little more appropriate. It's more of a trojan with worm-like properties. This is a brand new animal, I believe. Doesn't a trojan that replicates- even if the mechanism of replication happens to require human assistance- deserve a name of its own? A worming trojan? A trorm? No one would deny that it doesn't implement the replication thing the same as your historical worms, but there's not really a classification for this type of animal yet. It all seems very wormy to me.