They tried. They made a mistake. And, they are apparently not going back to see if they made any other mistakes. They are just going to hope no one else checks.
It is not that they made a mistake, it is that they are not checking to see if they made any more mistakes.
No, you are not being snide, you are being disingenuous. The saying is
Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's. Render unto God that which is God's
The quote in question concerns whether it was proper for Jews to pay the census tax laid by Caesar upon the Jews. Many Jews believed it was wrong, but refusing to do so or advocating against it in public was considered sedition. The askers of the question were attempting to trap Jesus into either breaking the law or having to use scripture to show that the tax should not be paid, which was not possible. Jesus sidestepped the trap by saying, in effect, Caesar has provided the money being used. If you use Caesar's money, use it to pay Caesar's tax. Don't give to Caesar what is God's and do not give to God that which is Caesar's"
As the money from the government is "Caesar's", it should not be render unto God.
No, you miss the point entirely. It is not about Crippen pirating, but rather about Crippen violating the anti-circumvention part of the DCMA. By allegedly using a pirated copy, Crippen is demonstrating that he has circumvented the protections which is a violation of the DCMA.
You seem to be under the impression that they don't have an obligation to find out if something is copyrighted even if isn't easy to do so. It is not the copyright owner's responsibility to troll through PG to see if their works are in PG. The burden falls on PG to make sure all of the works they are including are "orphaned".
I see, so it is OK to DDoS the websites of groups you personally do not like, but it is wrong for him to DDoS the websites of groups he does not like but you do like. That is what is known as hypocrisy.
The problem is that PG response was to fix the issue of the one work brought to their attention and that only after some resistance. PG has decided to not review their actions to see if they have infringed on other people's works but rather to hope that no one else notices and complains.
Do you make your living creating and selling for yourself movies, books, TV shows, video games? Do you make your living as an inventor? If not, why should anyone give your self-serving proposal any consideration?
If you "steal" something from a P2P site, the most you can be liable for is the most common trade price of the thing, and the prosecution is responsible for court costs.
So, you would also propose that if someone steals from you, they should just have to return the items or pay the going rate for said items and not be fined or sent to jail, right?
No, it is not a bad term. It is not a privilege. Copyright is a legally granted monopoly providing a right to control the copying of works. It is literally the granting of an exclusive right to copy.
And, the impetus of the article by the Bears seems to be this:
According to an email from Project Gutenberg’s CEO, Dr. Greg Newby, PG has changed their procedures for research of copyright non-renewal following the takedown of the Anderson work, although as of this writing (11/21/10) they have not posted these changes on their website. Dr. Newby says PG has also put a hold on public domain determinations for non-renewals. They do not seem to be reviewing the status of works already posted.
PG doesn't seem to be reviewing their site for other infringement which seems to be an act of bad faith. After admitting the error in the Bear case, PG should be reviewing all previously included works which might be similarly infringing, no matter how unintentional.
The term kidnapping is used in juxtaposition to the claimed of "adopting" abandoned works.
Who is doing the kidnapping? The people who have the right to control the work, or those that are violating those rights?
Or, to follow your theme: The people who are throwing them out in the streets naked to be used and abused by anyone walking by or those who are keeping them safe and warm in the house of intellectual property?
So, anything you don't agree with is flaimbait. Nice to see you expose your true beliefs.
You must not be an American, because you apparently have no clue as to how the American government is structured or operates.
Anybody the least bit informed would know that the big releases over this last year originated from one source and there has been considerable effort to involve large journals in releasing this bulk of information.
And, what does that have to do with the fact that Wikileaks has deleted all information from the site that is not directly about the United States. Did you miss that part or are you too stupid to read?
We certainly do.
If that is the case, then why did Wikileaks delete all the data for everyone else?
Sure. 2000, 2002, 2004, 2006, 2008. And, I can name one for the future: 2012.
The elected officials are not authoritarian, therefore your question is moot. And, no one is demanding complete secrecy. You, however, seem to be demanding a seat at every diplomatic discussion and to be CC on every single communication within the government.
No, a fucking idiotic assumption is that deleting every other bit of information about other countries and companies is not targeting the only one that remains.
Face the facts, Assange is using wikileaks as his own personal tool to attack the United States and thereby has completely destroyed the credibility of the site.
Don't be a liar. You have already proven my point. At no point has Wikileaks said they did what you are claiming. Show me where they said that or admit you are a shill for Assange the rapist and shut the fuck up.
Please point me to where wikileaks said they changed the site for that reason. You are full of shit and making excuses for them. What is it like to be Assange the rapist's shill?
that is the mirror of wikileaks org, before they hauled their entire site in order to handle the specific subject of cablegate.
In other words, that is the Wikileaks.org site before Wikileaks.org decided to delete all the data for every other country and specifically target the United States. Get a clue you fucking shithead, you have just proven my point.
It is not down. I had no trouble getting to it and have not had any trouble getting to it. I actually went to Wikileaks.org. Why didn't you? Maybe you should shut the fuck up now before you make even more a fool of yourself.
That is right, you can't. And, the ONLY explanation for deleting everything BUT U.S. data is that they are targeting the U.S. If the were not targeting just the U.S., they would have deleted all data beyond a certain date, but they didn't do that did they? No, they decided to focus on the U.S. and only the U.S.
That is not Wikileaks.org, is it? Where is it on the Wikileaks.org site? Post a link that starts "www.wikileaks.org/". Only then will you have a point. Until you can do that, just shut the fuck up, asshole.
Your fucking mirror doesn't matter because the actual wikileaks site has taken down all other data. I have seen it. I have proven it. What have you done? You have pointed to mirror that is completely independent of Wikileaks.
You are the moron, the idiot, the fool. You sit there and say that Wikileaks has not done what it clearly has done, then point to a mirror not controlled by Assange and Wikileaks as proof. What is on that mirror does not change what is actually happening on Wikileaks.
You do not address the primary statement in my post, namely that the only reason these cables were released was to embarrass the U.S. and damage the international relationships of the U.S.
The fact that the only data on Wikileaks involves the U.S. is strong evidence of same.
As for your last paragraph, let me know when you get a chance to discuss alliances with a foreign head of state. The fact is we elect a government to do those very things. You may not realize it but it is true. And, importantly, your last paragraph is false dichotomy.
And, where are the documents from France, Russia, China, etc? Or do we not need more open debate about THEIR geopolitical goals and intentions?
Slashdot Mirror
They tried. They made a mistake. And, they are apparently not going back to see if they made any other mistakes. They are just going to hope no one else checks.
It is not that they made a mistake, it is that they are not checking to see if they made any more mistakes.
Take it up with the Bears. It is their claim and you would know that if you had read my link.
The quote in question concerns whether it was proper for Jews to pay the census tax laid by Caesar upon the Jews. Many Jews believed it was wrong, but refusing to do so or advocating against it in public was considered sedition. The askers of the question were attempting to trap Jesus into either breaking the law or having to use scripture to show that the tax should not be paid, which was not possible. Jesus sidestepped the trap by saying, in effect, Caesar has provided the money being used. If you use Caesar's money, use it to pay Caesar's tax. Don't give to Caesar what is God's and do not give to God that which is Caesar's"
As the money from the government is "Caesar's", it should not be render unto God.
Thus, you are hoist on your own petard.
No, you miss the point entirely. It is not about Crippen pirating, but rather about Crippen violating the anti-circumvention part of the DCMA. By allegedly using a pirated copy, Crippen is demonstrating that he has circumvented the protections which is a violation of the DCMA.
You seem to be under the impression that they don't have an obligation to find out if something is copyrighted even if isn't easy to do so. It is not the copyright owner's responsibility to troll through PG to see if their works are in PG. The burden falls on PG to make sure all of the works they are including are "orphaned".
Should be too hard to find, as it is linked to in the second link of the submission.
key.mozilla.org
I see, so it is OK to DDoS the websites of groups you personally do not like, but it is wrong for him to DDoS the websites of groups he does not like but you do like. That is what is known as hypocrisy.
You thought that because you are a dumbass.
The problem is that PG response was to fix the issue of the one work brought to their attention and that only after some resistance. PG has decided to not review their actions to see if they have infringed on other people's works but rather to hope that no one else notices and complains.
So, you would also propose that if someone steals from you, they should just have to return the items or pay the going rate for said items and not be fined or sent to jail, right?
No, it is not a bad term. It is not a privilege. Copyright is a legally granted monopoly providing a right to control the copying of works. It is literally the granting of an exclusive right to copy.
PG doesn't seem to be reviewing their site for other infringement which seems to be an act of bad faith. After admitting the error in the Bear case, PG should be reviewing all previously included works which might be similarly infringing, no matter how unintentional.
The term kidnapping is used in juxtaposition to the claimed of "adopting" abandoned works.
Who is doing the kidnapping? The people who have the right to control the work, or those that are violating those rights?
Or, to follow your theme: The people who are throwing them out in the streets naked to be used and abused by anyone walking by or those who are keeping them safe and warm in the house of intellectual property?
You assume that the public key has to be stored on the local machine, which is false.
You must not be an American, because you apparently have no clue as to how the American government is structured or operates.
And, what does that have to do with the fact that Wikileaks has deleted all information from the site that is not directly about the United States. Did you miss that part or are you too stupid to read?
If that is the case, then why did Wikileaks delete all the data for everyone else?
Sure. 2000, 2002, 2004, 2006, 2008. And, I can name one for the future: 2012.
The elected officials are not authoritarian, therefore your question is moot. And, no one is demanding complete secrecy. You, however, seem to be demanding a seat at every diplomatic discussion and to be CC on every single communication within the government.
What's the matter, fuckwad? Don't like being proven an ignorant piece of shit and having your ass handed to you?
No, a fucking idiotic assumption is that deleting every other bit of information about other countries and companies is not targeting the only one that remains.
Face the facts, Assange is using wikileaks as his own personal tool to attack the United States and thereby has completely destroyed the credibility of the site.
Don't be a liar. You have already proven my point. At no point has Wikileaks said they did what you are claiming. Show me where they said that or admit you are a shill for Assange the rapist and shut the fuck up.
Please point me to where wikileaks said they changed the site for that reason. You are full of shit and making excuses for them. What is it like to be Assange the rapist's shill?
In other words, that is the Wikileaks.org site before Wikileaks.org decided to delete all the data for every other country and specifically target the United States. Get a clue you fucking shithead, you have just proven my point.
It is not down. I had no trouble getting to it and have not had any trouble getting to it. I actually went to Wikileaks.org. Why didn't you? Maybe you should shut the fuck up now before you make even more a fool of yourself.
That is right, you can't. And, the ONLY explanation for deleting everything BUT U.S. data is that they are targeting the U.S. If the were not targeting just the U.S., they would have deleted all data beyond a certain date, but they didn't do that did they? No, they decided to focus on the U.S. and only the U.S.
That is not Wikileaks.org, is it? Where is it on the Wikileaks.org site? Post a link that starts "www.wikileaks.org/". Only then will you have a point. Until you can do that, just shut the fuck up, asshole.
Your fucking mirror doesn't matter because the actual wikileaks site has taken down all other data. I have seen it. I have proven it. What have you done? You have pointed to mirror that is completely independent of Wikileaks.
You are the moron, the idiot, the fool. You sit there and say that Wikileaks has not done what it clearly has done, then point to a mirror not controlled by Assange and Wikileaks as proof. What is on that mirror does not change what is actually happening on Wikileaks.
You do not address the primary statement in my post, namely that the only reason these cables were released was to embarrass the U.S. and damage the international relationships of the U.S.
The fact that the only data on Wikileaks involves the U.S. is strong evidence of same.
As for your last paragraph, let me know when you get a chance to discuss alliances with a foreign head of state. The fact is we elect a government to do those very things. You may not realize it but it is true. And, importantly, your last paragraph is false dichotomy.
And, where are the documents from France, Russia, China, etc? Or do we not need more open debate about THEIR geopolitical goals and intentions?