So I'm confused you started this argument complaining about MS (the corporation) and bloatware, now you've shifted gears to complaining about MS (the programmers) and bloatware. To what should we attribute the bloat then? The bad business practices of the company or the poor choices/abilities of the programmers?
P.S. If you're concerned about filesize you probably shouldn't consider anything in the Office line. It's all bloatware, at least you can attribute it to a joke in Excel.
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I agree whole-heartedly, as I'm reading this thread I'm shocked to see people, who are against filtering claiming that some censorship is okay.
Censorship is censorship, blocking porn and burning books require the same mentallity. You may feel that we have to protect the children, or some other crap but you're still hiding information from them, because you don't want to teach them to think, or deal with the real world.
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But to say that doing bounds checking safely in C is impossible, but since Java or ML do it for you it's going to work perfectly doesn't make sense. They both translate to machine code therefore it can be done. All it takes is one "bound-safe" library with some #ifdefs and you've got the same thing.
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If security is a serious issue then the programmer
should be responsible enough to use the bounds-checking versions of functions. You shouldn't expect the compiler to assume that it knows the purpose of your application.
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For reasons unknown to me, there are at least two major instant messaging systems owned by AOL: ICQ and AIM. Microsoft has something like that as well IIRC. Instead of those technologies working together, they try to make sure they don't. Actually in fairness to Microsoft they did try to make them all compatible but AOL wouldn't let them.
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Even though I have no formal law training I know that you cannot count on "subject to change without notice" clauses to blanketly protect you from legal action if you pull a stunt like this. Those kind of clauses are reserved for pricing at Denny's. They usually don't even hold up if an advertisement has a misprinted price.
I'm pretty sure that something like this would have no chance of being protected by one of those clauses because it would not make sense for you to legally be allowed to change terms of an agreement without notifying and giving someone a chance to back out of the agreement, that seems pretty basic layman knowledge of contracts (e.g. My apartment can't change the lease on me without my consent). Now it's possible that none of the basic concepts of contracts and/or agreements apply here but they sure seem to, so I prefix my comment with IANAL as a way of saying hey if there's a lawyer out there and I'm wrong "Flame On" cause I suppose I deserve it, and then I can Q&A that person for real info. Think of it as trolling for a lawyer.
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<IANAL> I don't know if you could really hold up a "Above subject to change without notice" clause in court for comething like this. Those clauses are usually only for pricing and I know in alot of cases that doesn't even work. I don't think you can do that with something like a privacy policy. </IANAL>
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Just like everyone was saying 3 months ago, and 3 months before that, etc. Last time it was a Mac Rumors site, now it's the Drudge report. I won't hold my breath
Why would they merge anyway?
"Both companies would be divisions of DISNEY, with Steve being president of both, as well as chairman of WALT DISNEY Co." I can see why Disney would give up it's position, since they make more money than Apple and Pixar combined.
Steve will not sell PIXAR without APPLE Why not are we really supposed to by all the Jobs hype? He has more stock in PIXAR and has shown more interest in PIXAR.
This is the first time I've ever read anything from the Drudge Report before, but this is pretty low on the feeding chain if you ask me, the whole thing reads like rumor mongering and seems to have as much integrity as a crack whore.
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I'm still confused as to what the difference would be (reg requires more than just username/password maybe), but either way P3P is much worse in my opinion. I'll give fatbrain my real name and address, but I don't feel like giving it out to the nytimes just to read their paper. As is, registration (I'm assuming you mean it like above) is pretty easy to get around just lie. However when I've got forms popping up, or just autofilling and submitting it becomes much more of a pain in the ass.
This all seems to me like the NSA got ahold of Microsoft Wallet
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Re:Seems to be a good tool for internet blackmail
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A login is different Sort of... I think that's more of a semantic debate. Does Slashdot have a login or registration? Either way I agree with you, I thought you were argueing for P3P at first.
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Re:Seems to be a good tool for internet blackmail
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What is wrong with companies not knowing who is accessing thier site? Sorry I misread what you were saying.
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What is wrong with companies not knowing who is accessing their site? Public sites should be open to all whether they want to be identified or not. Now companies will be able to deny access to anonymous users on a whim. Isn't that why god created logins and registration required. All P3P does is obfuscate that they are collecting information.
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Sorry that second sentence was meant to be "I can tell what's downloaded from me and the IP Address of the downloader..." who and their IP Address really doesn't make any sense.
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It's just another Gnutella clone. I can tell who downloads something from me and their IP Address right from Gnutella, all he did is add a timestamp, and he wants a damn award for stopping piracy.
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I can do the same thing just by fucking searching Gnutella or Napster. Is it even a bot? What a worthless piece of tripe. Both protocols are open, so this is just another Napster or Gnutella Client with a little more automation.
And to dispel a myth about Gnutella you're not really anonymous, you're better off than on Napster because since there's no central server, there's no one to kick you off, but your IP Address is still open to anyone searching or returning Search results
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Since PC's do exist now, it won't really hurt the industry at all. There's no reason to bow down to MS and chug, just cause they produced a marketable product.
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Nobody specified standard or extened. And why would you assume/. only excepted standard ASCII do you think they're running it off of a Cluster of TRS-80's?
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I'm confused as to how you think keeping track of your malloc's and free's is any different than keeping track of your new's and delete's do you know C++ at all?
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Scalability
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So I'm confused you started this argument complaining about MS (the corporation) and bloatware, now you've shifted gears to complaining about MS (the programmers) and bloatware. To what should we attribute the bloat then? The bad business practices of the company or the poor choices/abilities of the programmers?
P.S. If you're concerned about filesize you probably shouldn't consider anything in the Office line. It's all bloatware, at least you can attribute it to a joke in Excel.
Conscience is the inner voice which warns us that someone may be looking.
Conscience is the inner voice which warns us that someone may be looking.
I agree whole-heartedly, as I'm reading this thread I'm shocked to see people, who are against filtering claiming that some censorship is okay.
Censorship is censorship, blocking porn and burning books require the same mentallity. You may feel that we have to protect the children, or some other crap but you're still hiding information from them, because you don't want to teach them to think, or deal with the real world.
Conscience is the inner voice which warns us that someone may be looking.
Conscience is the inner voice which warns us that someone may be looking.
Conscience is the inner voice which warns us that someone may be looking.
Conscience is the inner voice which warns us that someone may be looking.
Conscience is the inner voice which warns us that someone may be looking.
If security is a serious issue then the programmer
should be responsible enough to use the bounds-checking versions of functions. You shouldn't expect the compiler to assume that it knows the purpose of your application.Conscience is the inner voice which warns us that someone may be looking.
For reasons unknown to me, there are at least two major instant messaging systems owned by AOL: ICQ and AIM. Microsoft has something like that as well IIRC. Instead of those technologies working together, they try to make sure they don't.
Actually in fairness to Microsoft they did try to make them all compatible but AOL wouldn't let them.
Conscience is the inner voice which warns us that someone may be looking.
Sorry allow me to rephrase it then...
Even though I have no formal law training I know that you cannot count on "subject to change without notice" clauses to blanketly protect you from legal action if you pull a stunt like this. Those kind of clauses are reserved for pricing at Denny's. They usually don't even hold up if an advertisement has a misprinted price.
I'm pretty sure that something like this would have no chance of being protected by one of those clauses because it would not make sense for you to legally be allowed to change terms of an agreement without notifying and giving someone a chance to back out of the agreement, that seems pretty basic layman knowledge of contracts (e.g. My apartment can't change the lease on me without my consent). Now it's possible that none of the basic concepts of contracts and/or agreements apply here but they sure seem to, so I prefix my comment with IANAL as a way of saying hey if there's a lawyer out there and I'm wrong "Flame On" cause I suppose I deserve it, and then I can Q&A that person for real info. Think of it as trolling for a lawyer.
Conscience is the inner voice which warns us that someone may be looking.
<IANAL>
I don't know if you could really hold up a "Above subject to change without notice" clause in court for comething like this. Those clauses are usually only for pricing and I know in alot of cases that doesn't even work. I don't think you can do that with something like a privacy policy.
</IANAL>
Conscience is the inner voice which warns us that someone may be looking.
Just like everyone was saying 3 months ago, and 3 months before that, etc.
Last time it was a Mac Rumors site, now it's the Drudge report. I won't hold my breath
Why would they merge anyway?
"Both companies would be divisions of DISNEY, with Steve being president of both, as well as chairman of WALT DISNEY Co."
I can see why Disney would give up it's position, since they make more money than Apple and Pixar combined.
Steve will not sell PIXAR without APPLE
Why not are we really supposed to by all the Jobs hype? He has more stock in PIXAR and has shown more interest in PIXAR.
This is the first time I've ever read anything from the Drudge Report before, but this is pretty low on the feeding chain if you ask me, the whole thing reads like rumor mongering and seems to have as much integrity as a crack whore.
Conscience is the inner voice which warns us that someone may be looking.
I'm still confused as to what the difference would be (reg requires more than just username/password maybe), but either way P3P is much worse in my opinion. I'll give fatbrain my real name and address, but I don't feel like giving it out to the nytimes just to read their paper. As is, registration (I'm assuming you mean it like above) is pretty easy to get around just lie. However when I've got forms popping up, or just autofilling and submitting it becomes much more of a pain in the ass.
This all seems to me like the NSA got ahold of Microsoft Wallet
Conscience is the inner voice which warns us that someone may be looking.
A login is different
Sort of... I think that's more of a semantic debate. Does Slashdot have a login or registration?
Either way I agree with you, I thought you were argueing for P3P at first.
Conscience is the inner voice which warns us that someone may be looking.
What is wrong with companies not knowing who is accessing thier site?
Sorry I misread what you were saying.
Conscience is the inner voice which warns us that someone may be looking.
What is wrong with companies not knowing who is accessing their site? Public sites should be open to all whether they want to be identified or not. Now companies will be able to deny access to anonymous users on a whim.
Isn't that why god created logins and registration required. All P3P does is obfuscate that they are collecting information.
Conscience is the inner voice which warns us that someone may be looking.
who and their IP Address really doesn't make any sense.
Conscience is the inner voice which warns us that someone may be looking.
Conscience is the inner voice which warns us that someone may be looking.
I can do the same thing just by fucking searching Gnutella or Napster. Is it even a bot? What a worthless piece of tripe. Both protocols are open, so this is just another Napster or Gnutella Client with a little more automation.
And to dispel a myth about Gnutella you're not really anonymous, you're better off than on Napster because since there's no central server, there's no one to kick you off, but your IP Address is still open to anyone searching or returning Search results
Conscience is the inner voice which warns us that someone may be looking.
Conscience is the inner voice which warns us that someone may be looking.
Conscience is the inner voice which warns us that someone may be looking.
Conscience is the inner voice which warns us that someone may be looking.
Conscience is the inner voice which warns us that someone may be looking.
Conscience is the inner voice which warns us that someone may be looking.
Conscience is the inner voice which warns us that someone may be looking.