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Apple, Pixar And Disney To Merge?
Master Bait sent in the freakiest merger rumor: Apple + Pixar + Disney, with Steve Jobs as the chairman... you can read more at the ever untrustworthy Drudge Report, so take this whole thing with a grain of salt the size of a Ford Taurus.
Cupertino 06/10/00 - Apple today announced that they will be merging with Disney in order to obtain disney's mouse technology. Having proven their success with 'Mickey' for over nearly 80 years, Apple are keen to revamp disney's mouse in a variety of different translucent colours in a bid to entice consumers to think differently.
It's impossible to prove that a rumor of this sort is not true. You can only prove that it is true, or suggest that it is not true.
Refrag
I have a website. It's about Macs.
How about:
Apple computing: Now more mickey-mouse and buggy than ever!
So that explains where Steve Jobs got the idea for colorful iMacs - they're in technicolor!
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Could you get me a map to find my way around that paragraph?
Yah, you see how you scum
Seinfeld is a known big-time Mac-o-phile.
He's also into classic VW's and Porsches big-time. Coincidence?
if it ain't broke, then fix it 'till it is!
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So did it break? I've watched an iMac come crashing off a desk on to a hard wood floor -- it still booted up just fine.
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That would be an interesting merger considering Microsoft has already merged with the Devil... (Or is it run by the devil???)
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re: Sales tax, you're wrong. If the company you're doing does business in the state you purchase in, you need to pay tax. Thus, as long as you live in the same state that the Disney Store you're buying at is in, you have to pay taxes. (actually, you have to pay taxes no matter what, but they rely on you to remit them yourself when the business isn't in a position to do so)
As it stands, I believe that Apple and Disney both have presences in all 50 states - you're out of luck unless your state has no sales tax at all.
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I don't think there is any doubt that Disney would be very interested in buying Pixar, since Pixar gets a lot of cash from Disney for those animated features. Plus, Disney only has a 5-film contract with Pixar, and you would have to expect that a renewal, which they should want to start negotiating right about now, is also going to be extremely lucrative. So Pixar has no huge interest in being bought out...except that they do (see below).
As others have pointed out, however, Apple is an entirely different matter. I think some posters underestimate the possible value that Apple holds for Disney, but there is no doubt that Apple stockholders would do extremely well under certain buy-out scenarios, as could Pixar stockholders.
And here's why: Apple and Pixar stocks are both relatively cheap in the market when compared to Disney, at least when measured by P/E ratios; Disney (symbol DIS) has a P/E of over 80, while Apple and Pixar (symbolols AAPL and PIXR respectively, have P/Es stuck in the 25 range. In other words, a dollar of earnings by Disney is thought to be worth over three times as much as a dollar of earnings by Steve Jobs, Inc. This is, of course, a bit absurd, but it does point out that Disney is in a position to offer a very nice premium (say, 50%) over the market price for both companies and still make it look like a win. And, given all the extra earnings Disney could have by effectively voiding their contract with Pixar, this might still be quite an attractive deal, even if Disney has to swallow Apple, too. (And why Apple, too? Most likely because Jobs is CEO of both, hence responsible to the stockholders of both, and could probably get into trouble if he furthered the interests of one over the other in such a high-profile deal.)
But things get even more interesting when you realize one other thing, which is that Disney has a substantial retail presence that would seem almost ideal for selling the iMac. The world's cutest PC, playing the Toy Story 2 DVD-ROM in the Disney store. Oh, wanna buy the iMac? Just click on the "Buy an iMac" icon on the task bar and launch a browser to buy the iMac on line, hence no sales tax (and no need to carry inventory), even though you're standing right there in the store.
None of this means that the deal will happen of course, but the deal does have a larger degree of face plausibility than you'd expect from most stuff you drudge off the web...
Babar
Anytime you see the word merge, replace it with buy.
Example: (press) NationsBank merged with BankAmerica to create Bank of America.
(reality) NationsBank bought BankAmerica to create Bank of America.
Refrag
I have a website. It's about Macs.
They are try to merge to form a monopoly for overpriced (yet good quality) merchandise...computers...dvd's...etc.
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Jobs and the Woz really were blue boxers, but that was some time before they started Apple; I don't recall that they used the blue box money to start the company.
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You mean Chicago walled off in the North to protect us from those dirty Canucks?
Chicago rules
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Not Hardly. Woz was a computer guy. Avie Tevanian is a computer guy. Steve Jobs has hired a bunch of top-flight computer guys in his time, but Steve himself is a *marketing* guy. Actually, not even a marketing guy. More of a "vision" guy. His real talent is recruitment. Many of the people he's managed to attract to Apple and NeXT over the years have been so smart, they're scary. -jcr
The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
The reality is that this story is, in all likelihood, probably true. They probably are secretly talking about merging two or more of these companies ... but, does that mean it'll happen? Hell, no.
I'm a big Apple fan and have been for 9 years. Anybody remember the Sun buyout rumor a few years ago? The IBM one? Is everybody forgetting that we recently found out that not only were those rumors completely true, but that they were ready to go ahead with the Sun buyout except they couldn't quite agree on a price??? I've worked for a $100 million Silicon Valley electronics company for 9 years and we recently completed a merger -- surprised all of us except for just a few. I didn't even know that we were in secret talks with companies for a couple of years.
The point is that just because some insider says they are in merger talks doesn't mean you jump to the conclusion that there's going to be a merger. It's very common here in the Valley to periodically entertain mergers and acquisitions because it's very much seen as a way to stay competitive -- NOT a big deal. (if you do it right, like we did, absolutely nothing changes in the companies except that they become financially tied together)
On the one hand, they have rid the Beige Macs from the line. They have Changed it from numbers (bad for humans) to 4 recognizable brands (good for humans). They no longer resort to Quadra 8100 or somesuch. It is an iMac, and the specs are listed as needed/required. It is the G4, or the Powerbook (which I think still has numbers) and the iBook.
They also retire the previous release, and they have been consistent on releasing OS in the past 2 years. That is a good thing, as it shows a positive direction for the company.
Bad things include but are not limited to: The hockey puck mouse, the chiclet keyboard, and the 15in std monitor on the iMacs. Then again the iMac never claimed to be high end; it serves more of a family computer role. Unfortunately, the >$1000 price does not match the surfing machine image. It is quite expensive in its target market.
The $1800 (loaded with 256 RAM)DV is a great entry lever video editing system, something you still cannot get at that price point in PC land. The G4 systems have an astronomical price, decent performance, and good standard features. All this and a usable interface.
Lowmag.net
Maybe Steve will slowly change the face of Mickey into his own image. Slowly changing all past episodes...so that our kids will never know the difference.
M...I...C..... See you really soon!
K...E...Y..... Why, Because we love you!
J...O...B....S....Mickey Jobs!
Mickey Jobs!
Rader
That said, anyone can purchase something in their own state and not pay sales tax, e.g. for resale or a non-profit. If you wind up using the item for a taxable purpose you are responsible for paying the appropriate tax.
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Actually I have always felt that Steve Jobs is more of the artistic type. Steve Woz was the
computer guy in the apple duet. Jobs was good at marketing.
Even in the movie "Pirates of Silicon Valley", Jobs was portrayed as being artistic.
Jobs is the one that keeps coming up with the artistic computers. I really don't care what my
computer looks like on the outside. I even try to buy the most standard looking case, just
because it is easier to tear out the guts. But then again, I'm not the majority in the market.
Steven Rostedt
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Indeed. There seems to be some simple harmonic motion in the cycle between this rumor and the rumor that Apple is about to go out of business -- the longer it's been since one rumor was published, the more likely it is for the other to pop up.
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Hi all, I hope nobody is buying or selling stock based on this rumor. It's about three years old, possibly the oldest unfulfilled rumor in the mac world (with the exception of world domination.) Let's talk about a really good rumor, like a proposed Apple branded Palm OS device that has the handwriting technology of the old Newton. cmdrsalamander
I think that with the AOL/TW thing, Disney has a lot more to worry about than slapping a pair of mouse ears on each iMac.
Apple does not have an internet strategy, like Microsoft does in MSN. Apple probably doesn't need one. But to compete against other content providers, Disney sure as heck DOES need an internet strategy. (a Disney-branded proprietary ISP). We can all breathe easy here, because a Disney/AOL merger would have been very nasty. But AOL/TW is what Disney is going to have to compete with, and they're going to be given a run for their money, and don't need to branch out into making computers. That would be a horrible error.
if it ain't broke, then fix it 'till it is!
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Refrag
I have a website. It's about Macs.
And, of course, the impending puns about the iMick.
Of course you can't neglect Pixar's role in the whole thing. Ultimately, it'll be Apple hardware rendering Pixar's movies to be distributed by Disney. Pun or not, I think that's *DAMN* funny. Not a BAD idea, but an amusing one.
And since nobody's done it yet, can you imagine a Beowulf cluster of Steve Jobs?
"I'm not even supposed to BE here today!"
This is more crap news. As soon as the media decided that Apple wasn't going out of business, it was merging with Disney. Blech.
We haven't seen this one before a few times.
Um, no, they don't say "let's put our favorite OS in a movie," they say "let's put a computer in a movie," and it happens to be a Mac because the majority of people working on the movie are Mac users and that's what they have handy. Yes, sometimes Apple pays them, but they usually don't, although they do often provide free computers.
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Disney hasn't gone down hill already?
Refrag
I have a website. It's about Macs.
Here's a few one-liner thoughts.
1) Apple now has to buy its customers...
2) The new Disney Character iMacs, now even less ergonomic with character faced mice and classic Disney scenes preburnt into the monitor. Comes in such wonderful flavors as poison apple. Includes the World of Disney screensaver package and the MDE (Mickey Desktop Environment) for Apples newly renamed operating system Creationism.
3) Pixar will be dumping all of their high-end graphics machinery and customized code for a stack of iMac DV's, but customized for SMP...
4) The new Pixar desktop assistant, a jumping, mute desklamp that gestures help files and procedures to you in its cute and witty but speech free way of expressing itself. The ultimate in userfriendliness, as now computer users not only do not need to be computer literate, but they can also lack basic reading and speech skills entirely.
5) iMac Story, the touching story of a bunch of fruity flavored fishbowls, in a desparate attempt to save iMac blue from the clutch of Bill Gates.
Eh...
That was a serious problem (which is better, a 5500 or a 6100?), but now they have a similar problem at the opposite extreme: no model numbers at all. Those who know the internal codenames (Yosemite, Yikes, Sawtooth, Wallstreet, Lombard, Pismo) or iMac revisions (Rev A, Rev B, Rev C, Rev D) can tell them apart, but Apple isn't very helpful about this.
Know what Apple says is the easiest way to tell the difference between a Yikes G4 (PCI graphics) and a Sawtooth G4 (AGP graphics), entirely different models with different motherboards and different features, other than opening up the case and looking inside? Go here.
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the point i was making was that disney's been around forever. pixar hasn't been. i will not insult pixar by saying they haven't done their share of good, in fact my favorite disney movie to date was made by pixar. but having 20 years of experience in the video/animation/computer scene doesn't quite match disney's long record. but then again, there's people who will tell you that disney's just another formerly good company who's recently become a corporate bag of sleaze. the underlying point is that i still think jobs is best suited for computer-centric companies like apple or pixar. but then again, that's just my opinion. take it for what its worth.
"I hope I don't make a mistake and manage to remain a virgin." - Britney Spears
It's a more reliable rumor than the one about Disney buying out Apple and Pixar.
Besides, I have seen photos from a few different sources that clearly show Macs at LucasFilm and ILM. And Maya is being ported to Mac OS X.
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of course, the first series were 700 and 900. My bad :)
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It doesn't mean much now, it's built for the future.
Will this mean the future Mickey Mouse will have just one ear?
Though it is more likely that the meeting with Jobs and Disney is to discuss future joint projects, a merger is not totally unthinkable. Since both companies are doing fairly well at this time, a merger would benefit both. Disney would definitly benefit from Pixar's animation department, and Apple's hardware and software resources would only help. On the other hand, Apple could certainly benefit from Disney's marketing department, it's a win, win situation. But, Jobs as CEO of Disney? Not any time soon, big waves are moving at Disney, but none of them include a position for Jobs. Jobs doesn't have the vision necessary for Disney, even as President, a appropriate position for Jobs, Eisner isn't going anywhere.
This still isn't as scary as the AOL-TW merger, IMHO.
But the girl uses IRIX old 3d file manager to
navigate the system. To bad it wont work on newer
versions of IRIX since I cant run on our
O2's at school.. buhhh!!!
http://www.sgi.com/fun/freeware/3 d_navigator.html
is the url for the software..
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I think this story is bunk, but if something
like this were to happen, don't count out SGI.
They are shopping themselves for sale, having
spun-off MIPS and Cray.
They make the hardware and software that Disney
and Pixar use.
And they made colorful boxen when Apple was still
making beige boxes.
But seriously, SGI is more in need of a takeover
than Apple.
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Better Steve Jobs in charge of entertaining the masses with Disnixarple (which they already do, btw) than Steve Case with AOL-Time-Warner-Brothers.
Jobs is already top dog at two out of three firms in question and Disney would be much less well off right now if not for Pixar and several hit movies in a row. The reason this rumor is getting passed around is because it is so reasonable. Jobs is not a geek, he's a visionary type of CEO-- like Walt was. If there's any truth to this, maybe Eisner's looking to retire. The go.com thing isn't going nearly as well as Disney wanted it to and several other Disney divisions are anemic. Jobs might be just the guy to get the company cruising again.
I'd love to buy a Winnie-the-Pooh branded iMac for my daughter (which, of course, will have Yellow Dog Linux installed on it before she ever touches it).
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As my wife has just cunningly pointed out. Take a letter or two from each: DIsney APplE pixaR (note case) Diaper. Should appeal to the kids.... M.
Which is why some folks think of it as untrustworthy. Clearly a front for the vast right-wing conspiracy! :-)
Now we can see apples in more movies. Why are all computers in movies apples?
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I think that's about right. :-) But do note that Eisner is now 58 years old (I believe) while Jobs is only 45. Jobs waited 14 years (I think) to regain the CEO title at Apple, and, as long as he was given decently free reign over his corner of Disney, probably wouldn't be in any huge hurry to become CEO of Disney. Or, maybe he would, in which case the deal would never happen.
Babar
i wouldn't call pixar prestigious. artistic, sure. prestigious, no. they haven't been around long enough, and show us that they have one good trick - computer animation.
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BUT, and here's the big point: IF Disney does buy both out (which wouldn't surprise me because of pixar and the success Disney has had with them) Steve Jobs will NOT become Chairman of the MegaHuge Conglomorate that will result. The reason for this is that Disney deals in more areas than just a few films and stuff, they have several theme-parks, hundereds of stores accross America (and a few over seas I hear now) along with a slew of other things Steve Jobs would not be qualified to President over even if that was the only way Disney would get Apple/Pixar. Besides I'd hate to see Disney go down hill because Steve Jobs didn't like ohhh say Disney World... scary thought huh?
... calls the Drudge Report untrustworthy?
Now that's the pot calling the kettle black!
I own stock in those 3 companies...
Who said it'd be a merger? I think they're saying it'd be an acquisition.
Apple doesn't have an image as an innovator? Are fuckin' serious??? Why do you think Microsoft's OS uses a GUI that looks so much like a Mac?
Ease of use is relative -- sure Windows is easier than Linux, but who's saying that it's easier than the MacOS? No reputable people I know of...
...Brittle, high-strung Steve Jobs introducing each Sunday episode of "The Wide World of Disney."
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Here's a link on that particular one.
Here's AppleInsider's report on the merger rumor, from February 1999! And you think Slashdot is late with the news sometimes!
I'm not saying Jobs would be necessarily bad at the job, but the Disney shareholders know that Eisner is good at it.
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Lots wife certainly takes salt more seriously now.
^-- Biblical reference to a woman who was turned into a pillar of salt.
I however, don't take this merger seriously at all. Or the source.
Eh...
Actually, Steve Jobs is in no way a computer guy in terms of what you see at slashdot. He's a showman and entertainer, though so far he's found his niche in the computer industry, that doesn't preclude him from wanting to go elsewhere. Why would he want to chair disney? Well, he chairs Apple and Pixar, and Disney really isn't that far a leap from where he's at with Pixar right now.
If these rumors are true (which i can't see... why would Disney want to buy apple now that they've completed their "recovery"? Theye'd have to pay $1.25-$1.50 on the $1.00 in order for it to make sense for the shareholders, and at the price that Apple's at these days, that'd end up being what? $30 billion. Nevermind that 2 years ago they were worth around $2 billion. To reiterate, now is not the time to buy apple.
Yes, Jobs would love to run Disney (according to what I've read, esepcaially telling is Gil Amelio's final pages in his "700 days at apple book" where he issues a warning to Michael Eisener (That's the right name, right?) to beware if Steve Jobs ever sets his sites on running Disney.
The only problem is that it makes no sense for Disney to buy Apple. Pixar, yes. Apple, no. And if they can't be unwoven, that's going to be an aweful lot to spend in order to get a new CEO/Chariman.
Pixar and Diney have done so much work together before this is no surprise at all. Apple have a fantastic platform with the G4. Project Appleseed (http://exodus.physics.ucla.edu/appleseed/applesee d.html)has shown us that clustered G4's can make one heck of a supercomputer. Roll on Toy Story 3.
This time it is more likely.
A conglomerate rooted in innovation - not a bad idea. Let's face it, these 3 companies do go hand in hand. The Mac has always been the best consumer-accessible (discounting high-end solutions like SGI packages) platform for video editing. Disney & Pixar have already worked successfully together a "Toystory" and "A bug's Life", and with Apple they could create a division emphasing marketing the use of technology in home filmaking and video editing on a level accessible to the consumer - with the Disney name backing it up, this could be an ingenious plan.
Other big media mergers that have had equally evil ramifications have happened *cough cough* AOL *cough cough*. I extremely doubt that Jobs would be president, as disney is a MUCH larger company, is internationally recognized, and is more closely aligned with Pixar.
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eheheh Disney sells iMacs. Thats Funny.
Even MacOS Rumors denounced the rumor on their page.
... I knew you could.
So why was this moderated to interesting?
Steve M
Did you even bother to read the 15 line article?
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Here's a quote:
And it makes sense for Disney to want Pixar, they are in contract to make five films, the third one already in production.
(Also from the article)
Finally, so I don't get flamed, I admit that this post doesn't actually contain original thought
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First off I was browsing through and noticed all the posts were one of three things.
1) "..this has already been posted.."
2) "..iWalt..iMouse..iWorld.."
3) "..Mickey Jobs.."
I noticed that all the comments sucked and the humor was dry at best. Oh, what do we have here.. karma whores? Hrm, no good.
*scroll scroll*
Hrm, browsing at 0.
*click*
Browsing at -1...
1) "..MDMA..Beer.."
2) "..Penis Bird.."
3) "..YOU SUXOR.."
*click*
*typing http://www.k10k.net*
ahhhhhhhhhhh
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It seems that the Apple-Disney thing comes up every three of 4 months or so. I'll believe it when I see it.
Would that mean macs on the ESPN anchor desks? In every disney hotel room?
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and don't forget the Game Episode of X-Files. They used a dos window.
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OK, it was officially the other way around. Apple gives about 20% of its valuation ($400M) to a company with no profits and having devoured nearly a $100M of investor's cash. NeXT personnel infiltrate major Apple posts, turn Apple around, replace (merge) MAC-OS with theirs.
I wouldn't put beyond Steve to do this with Disney/ABC, but why? Steve's a nerd at heart and wouldn't be interested in most of Disney business.
Square and Sony Pictures are going to do quite well with Final Fantasy. The animation is top-notch. Much better than what I saw in A Bug's Life. I'd say Pixar will get a big run for their money once Final Fantasy is released.
Not that I don't like Pixar.
Refrag
I have a website. It's about Macs.
or should i say slashdot, slashdot, slashdot...
this little 'rumor' has been floating around for a long, long time - well, since 1997 or so. the speculation was there from the moment jobs stepped back into cupertino. that the G3/apple logo on the side of the blue G3s sported a distinctly mickey mouse-shaped hole didn't help things a bit.
this is - for those of you that are not familiar with, or do not read on a fairly regular basis, or are not (as i am) addicted to, the mac rumor web scene - pre-macworld-news-vacuum-speculation
disney doesn't want apple - apple is a hardware company with all kinds of actual inventory and an actual market to deal with, and not an entertainment company. if apple made action figures, maybe. also, apple doesn't want to be disney-fied. hell, they just got NeXT-ified, and things are still settling down from that. and besides, jobs would never stand for it.
that doesn't preclude disney from throwing a lot of money at apple to produce special disney editions of the imac and ibook - which is more likely - featuring various characters from disney films, or at the very least a nice kid-oriented game/software bundle.
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Unfullfilled rumors in the Mac world???
:) Just wanted to point out that Apples always had the rumormills running around them. And that's good, if you consider that any publicity is good publicity... Apple just got a story on Slashdot today for no other reason than a 3 year old unsubstantiated rumor.
How about the 10 year+ one that Apple had System 7 running on 486 hardware?
Or that Sun was going to buy them out? (I think that one was earlier than the Disney rumors)
Or that Oracle was going to buy them out?
Or Copland/Gershwin (Apple's previous aborted efforts at modernizing the Mac) (Yes, those were supplanted by OS X, but they stayed on their copland strategy for quite a long time)
I could fill up this page with defunct Apple rumors, but i won't
Hmmm... Apple branded Palms with Newton hardwriting??? Sorry to say, I think I've finally gotten Grafiti engrained in my head... So unless it can help me write a LOT faster, i'd just assume stick with the stock Palm handwriting engine...
Jobs would have to be CEO over Eisners very dead body. (Which of course would be cryo-froze and put up in the castle along side Walt).
I'm actually in the middle of trying that (quadra 700 w/NetBSD), but I can't get the darn thing to proxy and I'm running into problems recompiling the kernel. My weekend project is reloading the thing from scratch.
Or I could just buy an $89 Mac proxy for my 3-5 node network. I'm poor, but the time wasted on getting BSD working is quickly getting too much.
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regarding this "rumor", it may have been a rumor, but if drudge is reporting it, my bet is you're going to be hearing an announcement by the interested parties very soon....any takers???
I thought Jobs was absolutely against anything more than a one-finger mouse. Of course, all Disney mice have three fingers.
IIRC Alaska, Deleware, Oregon and New Hampshire haven't got sales taxes. I just wanted a big state...
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Whats a mormon?
:P
Heh I really don't know I have never known and may never know.
As for chicago the fact that when I went there on vacation it totally and completely sucked kinda made me sour on chicago's atomosphere
nothing against the people except those that know who I may be.
If your good get out before the wall goes up if not then Ill push you back in
Maybe your a good one but calling me a Sadist and whatever a mormon is doesn't make me like you a whole lot.
-Sarkdas (chill cube-bert =D)
"G4" has a number. Last time I checked 4 fits right inbetween 3 and 5.
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Nah detonate a small tactical nuke in the center and wall off every land connected part except for some spots for refugee camps and place troops to kill anyone trying to get out. (thats about whats its like in te SR world) as for the water why would those in the north want chicago? I know I wouldn't if I were up there. and Im a US citizen...just think how friendly I am in person =D -Sarkdas (ME:Its just one wasp spirit how bad could it be? GM:Do you have any magic spells or weapons or ANYTHING like that? ME: Umm no. GM:Lets make this short....you die.)
Right. Monsters, Inc. is the fourth film, not the third. I simply quoted from the article without thinking, sorry.
steve
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Hrmm, Tabitha? I'm not sure honestly.
:-)
It doesn't sound preposterous at all to me
Eh...
Doh forgot to put it in plain text
-Sarky
Actually, I know the rule about you voluntarily remitting sales tax not collected by the business you're buying from, but, as we both know, nobody actually does this. (To a first approximation, anyway.) What I was trying to outline was the scenario where you buy the iMac on line, from a kiosk in the Disney store. Now, in that situation, you could argue that the Disney Store in question was in a position to collect the tax (since the web site in question could detect that the kiosk being ordered from was from one of their physical stores), and I suspect that you're right about that. So ignore the part about not having to pay tax on that sale. jking
Babar
Actually, I think you have it backwards. The reason why Apple nearly went under is that they had a plunging market share, a confusing product line-up, and a niche in an ecosystem where Microsoft seemed to be the unstoppable predator. Who is going to hand over much money for that? Not many people outside the computer industry itself, since Apple itself showed that you couldn't just bring in some soft drink king and build a successful hi-tech company with it.
These days, you have a growing, stylish, up-market computer and software film with close ties to the entertainment and video production industries as well as the closest possible tie-in to a major creator of animated features. Looks way more attractive, especially if the stock for that company trades at a way lower earnings multiple than most of its competition. Or than many of its potential acquirers.
Again, I don't put too much stock in this rumor given the personalities involved, but to claim that it makes no sense from a business perspective, given some of the other deals we've seen recently, is seriously mistaken.
Babar
Why the hell would Disney want Apple?
<RANT>Why the hell would Disney want the Anaheim Angels or the Anaheim Mighty Ducks? It's not just that the Angels, with all their talent, miss the playoffs year after year. IMHO a company like Disney has no business whatever owning a baseball, hockey, or any other sports team. I can see them owning ABC as a guaranteed market for its content. But ESPN is a considerable stretch. And baseball and hockey teams, for cryin' out loud? It's not like they're Ted Turner and they need them to fill air time on ABC.
So Disney taking over Apple makes as much sense as a number of other acquisitions they've spent money on in the last several years while Disneyland falls apart, which is to say none at all. </RANT>
Actually, though, the main reason I don't believe this merger rumor is that I can't see Michael Eisner giving up control of Disney under any circumstances that don't involve carting him out of his office feet first.
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last time I checked Disney OWNED Pixar..... you know it would be a pretty interesting idea if they merged with a company that they already own :)
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Disney has a history of buying companies, changing their minds about agreements and plans after the fact, then axing them. Case in point is Disney's treatment of Mammoth Records: see the Mouse that Ate Mammoth.
"you can read more at the ever untrustworthy Drudge Report" I know _a lot_ of people who think the exact same thing about slashdot :-/
Frozen walt is an urban legend.
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How would taking something with a grain of salt make it easier to go down?
Would taking something with a grain of salt that is the size of a Taurus make it very easy to go down?
Omega had it right, and the Big Taco didn't.
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Well, at least Mickey can continue his job as mouse.
The Mary Poppins MAC, it's supercalifragilisticexpealidocious!
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But Disney could show the world that it is an evil empire with a merger with Apple and Pixar.
Must be that time of the year.
Lets see.. Wow! my watch lost almost 4 minutes, I'll have to get a new battery soon.
Rember last year when Disney was going to buy apple, or the year before that? This time apple is going to buy Disney?
Did anyone hear that Dell was going to buy Universal?
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I seem to remember that the computers on the Jurassic Parc island were Unix boxes. They even had a pre-geek girl hacking her way in to save the day.
;-)
I'm sure they didn't choose Unix boxes to match the movie theme
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that almost everything is written by people who walk in off the street, willing to get ripped off.
(see Guide entry for New York in the spring.)
How much is 10 billion yen?
About $100 Million US.
G4 is more a brand name than a class distinguishment. The actual processor is MPC7400, not G4. G4 seems to be an Apple term for the system itself (perhaps Generation 4 ?) not the chip. You can get different speeds, but they do not add or take away from the name. The only place they seem to do this currently is the iMac, which has a "DV" version. This is still preferable to "iMac 8100".
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This reads very confused.
PIXAR is already half-and-half-owned by Disney Corp and Steve Jobs (look it up, Drudge didn't.)
Hey, why do the work of research when you can print wild speculation. (And yes that applies to a lot we see here, too.)
Anyone else think its funny that a Drudge is a low level monster with a paticularly annoying squeal in Acheron's Call?
It could be accurate. Keep in mind it took 36 CPU-hours in order to render a frame. Perhaps they were rendered in parallel on separate machines/groups. With a bank of systems doing rendering, at 36 hours a frame, if there were a thousand machines/groups, that would drop your estimate to less than a full year.
Of course, an infinite number of monkeys at an infinite number of Macs with an infinite number of licences for rendering software could do the same thing, even if it took considerably more than said 961 years.
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Let's think about this for a second.
This cyclical rumor keeps showing up despite the fact there is no factual basis for it. The only reason for assuming it in the first place is the hideously tenuous logical link that Steve Jobs, who is the [technically unpaid-- he gets a salary of $1 a year, plus some other slight "perks". The "perks" though, have included such things as millions of dollars of stock, and an airplane.] CEO of Apple, is also CEO of Pixar. That's it. The same person is working at both companies in a management position, and one of those two companies uses a third company for distribution and promotion purposes, so somehow in the warped minds of macosrumors it would follow that the three would merge.
Let's extend this logic a bit. For the next three or four minutes, for the purpose of argument, we will say that I AM A MAC RUMORS SITE, and therefore EVERYTHING I SAY IS TRUE because i NEVER CHECK MY SOURCES FOR ANY DEGREE OF ACCURACY.
Bruce Perens is an employee of Pixar. Bruce Perens is also the lead person behind the Debian open source linux distribution and head of the FSF. Whether the last two sentances are true or not is irrelivant; all i know is, like, Bruce Perens name was listed in the credits when i saw Toy Story 2, and, um, like, this r337 IRC d00d in #ircle said once that Bruce Perens ran Debian, and i'm a mac rumors site PH33R M3!!! So it must be right.
Because the same person is working at both Debian and Pixar in a coding postion, clearly the two are about to merge. This would clearly be logical, because they both involve penguins in some way, and because Debian has a [as of yet prerelease] PPC distribution in the works. So when disney buys apple, which they obviously will, Bruce Perens will make sure they buy the FSF as well because he's so attatched to it! Right? ISN"T THAT COOL!!!)@#(*!)(*!!!!!FSADFA
Please, please explain to me why the above is a lesser degree of bullshit than the rumors of apple, disney and pixar merging?
You can't, can you? The apple/disney rumors ARE just as idiotic. SO WHY DO YOU KEEP POSTING THIS STUFF ON THE SLASHDOT MAIN PAGE???
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I'd heard Steve Jobs was going to announce a new mouse at he upcoming MacExpo next week in New York. Hey, who knew it'd be a Mickey?
All good work is done in defiance of management.
Actually the fourth one is in production (2 Toy Story movies and A Bugs Life), called Monsters Inc. Probably the fifth one may be in development. They also got a new short out called "For the Birds"
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Actually, he didn't.
Let's face it, these 3 companies do go hand in hand.
So do Time Warner and AOL. The merge-happy economy of the past few years needs to be checked out, lest we lose our ability to choose whom we buy products from.
From Schwabacher v. U.S., 334 U.S. 182: The appellants contend that their share in the merged company is to be measured by, or their remedies [ 334 U.S. 182 , 190] as dissenters are to be found in, state law, but that the federal agency is bound to determine and apply that law. The Commission on the other hand refuses either finally to foreclose or to allow these claims. It apparently leaves it open to the state courts, or to the parties by negotiation, to add to the surviving carrier's capital obligations which the Commission has found to be just and reasonable, others founded only in state law and as to which it has made no such findings.
The onus is on both the state and federal governments and the FTC to take a careful look at the slew of mergers currently going on. Nothing less than our precious capitalism is at stake.
SUN ANNOUNCES NEW SUBSIDIARY; IBM TO PARTNER WITH DENNY'S Sun Microsystems today announced the creation of yet another subsidiary, bringing the total number of Sun wholly-owned subsidiaries to 1,207. After successfully creating SunSoft, Sun Microsystems Computer Corporation, SunPICS, SunConnect, and a number of other smaller firms, Sun has created SunLHMPPP. SunLHMPPP is tasked with addressing the specific niche market of users that require both left handed mice and a parallel printer port on their workstations. Howard Detwieler, president of SunPR, the public relations subsidiary of Sun, explained the move: "We feel that a growing number of left handed users are moving into the workstation world, and a lot of them have printers with parallel ports. By creating this new company to meet their needs, left handed users with parallel printers can be assured of specific, long term help from Sun." The firm is composed of six employees in an office down the hall from Scott McNealy. The president of SunLHMPPP, Fred Testaverno, is bullish about his target market. "We think that this will be a big, big profit opportunity for Sun. Our initial research indicates that the left handed users with parallel printers market is so big, we have begun the process of creating two sub-subsidiaries, SunLHMPPP-LHM and SunLHMPPP-PPP. That way, we can meet the needs of left handed users WITHOUT parallel printers. And vice versa. Or both." Sun Microsystems is a three billion dollar firm that produces a variety of advanced computing hardware and software. Sun focuses on powerful solutions to the big problems facing companies in the '90s: too many vice presidents, and too few promotion slots in upper management. In a related story, IBM has announced a long-term technology sharing agreement with the Denny's restaurant chain. An IBM spokesman indicated that the move is an indication of IBM's commitment to stay in business through a series of increasingly pathetic consortium attempts. "Frankly, our competitors are eating our lunch in this very competitive marketplace. With Denny's, we can start serving lunch, and maybe stay ahead of the game." Analysts welcome the move, pointing out that both firms mesh nicely. "IBM has never been in the restaurant business, and the only computers at Denny's are the cash registers. The two firms complement each other perfectly. Best of all, both companies can retain the menu driven interfaces to their products without confusing the end user!" The first joint effort between the two companies will be an offering from IBM involving expansion disk drives encased in an edible, pita bread housing. Denny's will begin selling a Grand Slam Workstation, and will offer a free memory upgrade to every customer on their birthday. IBM is a multi-jillion dollar firm that used to sell a large number of computers. They continue to stay in business, even though no one has met a person who has actually purchased an IBM machine in the past five years.
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Look, I'm as skeptical as the next guy about things that pop up in unreliable sources like the Drudge Report.
:)
But when rumours persist in the business world, particularly about mergers, they often have some element of truth to them.
Look at the recent separation between GM and GM class "H" (GMH) stocks. Rumours persisted for months about several companies, including AT&T, Sprint/MCI/WorldCom, and other companies buying GM in order to acquire Hughes Satellite. No, GM hasn't yet gotten bought out, but GM's behaviour regarding Hughes certainly has been consistent with these hostile takeover rumours. GM spun off the defense portion of Hughes, and kept Hughes Electronics. Then, GM split the links between GM and GMH stocks. Consequently, GM stocks fell and GMH skyrocketed. This behaviour is consistent with an attempt to prevent a buyout of GM.
Furthermore, for how many months were there rumours about the AOL/Netscape merger? For how many months did AOL and Netscape continually DENY that there were any talks. But it happened anyway.
I'm not saying that this proves anything about Apple/Pixar/Disney, but it goes to show that rumours of mergers often are at least partially true. Don't automatically dismiss it just because it is Drudge. Drudge has been right before, despite his sensationalist twist on things.
I wouldn't doubt that it could happen. Quit laughing...
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This one already hit the /. rumor mill. Check out:
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http://slashdot.org/articles/99/02/16/0852230.s
I guess it'll be news until they finally do become Ultimate MegaCompany, Ltd.
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Personally, I think Steve Jobs is messing Apple up badly enough as it is. Don't get me wrong, he's done a lot of good, but when I think of some of the awesome possibilities he's been closing down, and Apple's recent complete disregard for the customer.....
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Considering Steve's ego, would he order an animated film on himself?
Is an oxymoron, same as Microsoft Works.
Microsoft and God were going to merge.
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These rumours have been around for a while. Amusing. If it has any factual base, then we can expect to see iBooks with big black Mickey Mouse ears attached to the casing and a black nose where the Apple Logo is.... M.
"We advise readers to be highly skeptical of this rumor."
Whatever happened to "This rumor is NOT true"? I am highly skeptical of their dismissal of the rumor.
If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem
Just one itsy bitsy step closer to those iMacs with the Mickey Mouse ears.
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I think Pixar also uses SGIs for rendering, but they use Macs for everything else.
Actually, there was an article written back when Toy Story was first created which described the set up. While textures and backgrounds and such were done on Mac's The Final rendering process is (well... was when the article was written) done by 30+ clustered Sparcs. (It took about 36 hours to render each frame in the original Toy Story!)
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And who actually believes these 3 are going to merge? Mickey Mouse promoting apples on TV. Perhaps that'll get our kids to eat their veggies.
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Even though you are in a Disney store when you purchase your brand new iMac, you aren't necesarily buying your imac from the disney store, you could be purchasing your iMac from Apple Computer a Subsidiary, but still a separate company from Disney Corp. The subsidiary is owned by Disney but is operated separately from the Disney Stores, and therefore does not ned to charcge sales tax because THAT business doesn't have locations in more than its home state.
Or I could be wrong...
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Since then Apple has seen an amazing rebirth and return to amazing profitability. Even in the dark days this sort of crap was barely believable, but now days it is just absurd.
Why the hell would Disney want Apple? Disney I could see buying Pixar, but Apple? And why would Apple want Disney?
This just doesn't make any sense. I guess I'd chastize Slashdot for giving it enough credence to post at all.
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The laughter and the questioning of Drudge for trustworthiness was actually more directed at Slashdot as a whole, not to you in particular...
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It doesn't even matter if you ordered online from the Disney Store or if you did it from your home in the same state. As long as Disney has ANY presence in your state, they have to collect the tax directly. If you live in Nome, Alaska and use the web for everything, and the only Disney Store is in Juneau, they still get the sales tax when you place the order.
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...sorry it had to be said. I guess I would actually like to play with OS X. I've missed using NeXT for about 7 or 8 years. There was a *nix OS that was powerful AND user-friendly.
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For example http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/9902/disney-t o-buy-apple.shtml
Just feed Apple Disney merger into any search engine for many previous similar speculations, all equally uninformed ever since Jos took over the helm back at Apple.
I seem to recall slashdot fetaturing it before as well ... here it is
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This makes no sense either.
merged should be replaced by "was bought buy", not "bought".
I don't beleieve it's good for our economic growth if all the big companies are merging, eliminating a lot of people so they can grow. Our longest period of economic prosperity is going to be drying up. Disney is already big enough... hell, what doesn't disney own? :-)
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Coincidentally it was about the same time that Apple changed its logo from the rainbow to the light blue, which is the same color as the Disney castle logo.
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Yeah - it's possible, but IIRC about five years passed between boxing and the Apple I.
Also of course, the second Apple Computer was started with VC. The first one (founded by Jobs, Woz and Wayne) was funded largely IIRC by the sale of Jobs' VW minibus and Woz's HP calculator.
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More than a year old... Had it out here in Feb 99 http://slashdot.org/articles/99/02/16/0852230_F.sh tml
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Did I say http://slashdot.org/articles/99/02/16/0852230_F.sh tml? Well, I meant to say http://slashdot.org/articles/ 99/02/16/0852230_F.shtml
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steve jobs is a computer guy. not the chairman of a prestigious company which is known for it's artistic works.
You mean like Pixar??!
P.
Just what I want a cute little colorful box with disney characters that does not really do much. Or maybe a really well rendered start screen with Buzz Lightyear and Woody.
Where am I going and why am I in this handbasket?
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Umm, they already do this. I think Pixar also uses SGIs for rendering, but they use Macs for everything else.
And since nobody's done it yet, can you imagine a Beowulf cluster of Steve Jobs?
That's just sick and wrong.
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The purpose of "nt" is to put it in the topic so the threaded folks dont click on it, not that they would on yours necessarily, but they just might. And I dont get why theres a slash, its "no text" not "no/text" :) Now for some O(n)T discussion. Apple merging with Pixar might be really cool, but Im not a big Disney fan. Sure I saw Fantasia and Alice in Wonderland, my two favorite movies (for reasons other than theyre animated disney movies.. hinting on our favorite south park song "___ are bad, mmkay?"). I didnt like the actual movies, but the fact that so many wonderful things can be gotten out of them. I thought Alice in Wonderland was ok, but that the Disney animators somehow had a time machine that would go into the future and make it in sync with every song you listen to. When the three merge (yes its a very stupid rumor) we might get some sort of amazing movie where 3D cowboys sing Phish while riding on giant upright insects. Or maybe it will be complete crap (HEH this is funny, sarcasm as related to above sentence, if you are a slow person). Im pretty fly for a Caucasian American Man
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Well.. Apple can be seen as a successful company after a few years in red, but.. it's not stable still. They don't broaden their market share. ( Why care market share? As you can see, the smaller market share means that people don't trust the platform's strong stand. )
Why would Pixar and Disney ( especially! ) want to merger with the Apple?
OK. Pixar is Mr. Jobs' company. But how about the Disney? I don't think that board members of Disney are not so dumb as to merge with the Apple.
( If they merge what the logo for the new company will be? Kill Apple's logo? It's the main reason the CEO of the Oracle supported the Apple. ( Brand recognition, strictly speaking ). The disney? The historic disney? Nonsense! What can they get? The Apple doesn't have an image as an innovator. Its image is "too-unstable" company. Disney will not want to get the image.
I don't see any reason Disney should merge with the Apple Computer.
The article, thus, smells like just a rumor.
I like Macintosh platform. But.. I will not buy one. ( I owned 2. ) There is not so great reason to buy Mac. Some inconvenience of Windows can be justified due to the price gap. And even the Linux, the harder OS to configure and maintain, is getting popular. The image, easy-to-use, would be obtained by the MS not the Apple, compared to the Linux.
Hm..
From macnn.com this morning...
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"Reigniting old rumors which have surfaced several times in the past few years, the latest edition of The Drudge Report speculates on an impending merger announcement between Pixar, Apple, and Disney. We advise readers to be highly skeptical of this rumor; AppleInsider first published an article more than 18 months ago that also suggested a possible Apple/Disney merger was in the works."
This has popped up so many times, I laughed so hard when Drudge put this up there.
And compared to Drudge.../. is hella better. When was the last time "the President's Talking Penis" was a 72 point headline on
Unfullfilled rumors in the Mac world???
... with ... with something that wasn't as good an idea as buying Apple, anyway.
None of your examples are rumours, they're just projects that never came to fruition.
How about the 10 year+ one that Apple had System 7 running on 486 hardware?
'Star Trek'. It did and I saw it when Apple was trying to get Chancery to not jump ship for Windows.
Or that Sun/Oracle was going to buy...
Both were discussed seriously by management with those two companies when they were flirting with the idea of entering the mass market space. Oracle's was much more serious, but they ended up going with
Or Copland/Gershwin...
Still have a Copland DR1 disc kicking around somewhere, I believe. It sucked.
okay...
steve jobs is lining himself up to get bought by disney, right?
and then disney is supposed to make him chairman of disney...
it seems there's a problem with this, i mean why would steve jobs chair disney? i don't quite believe this article. steve jobs is a computer guy. not the chairman of a prestigious company which is known for it's artistic works. like disney or not, you have to admit that this would probably be out of steve's ballpark. unless maybe, he's getting ready to unveil...
the iWalt
that's right, the iWalt is a cute, candy colored replica of the cryogenically frozen Walt Disney. It will run your company, draw cartoons, even design theme parks in your back yard! All for just $999... i figure steve has some motives...
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Oh joy.
I can't believe Drudge didn't post this earlier. This rumor is at least 6 months old. As a follower of Mac news this is something that was posted to mac news rumor sites at the beginning of the year and it was there was no basis for it then either.
These Drudge guys just managed to get a bunch of hits for posting old news. Maybe they expected people to believe it this time around.
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Wasn't something like this said a few years ago? Back before the Rebirth of The Jobs? When Apple was rumored to be merging with every company out there? I remember David Pogue speculating that Apple could merge with Toys R Us. Maybe Gil is back. :)
""Both companies would be divisions of DISNEY, with Steve being president of both, as well as chairman of WALT DISNEY Co."
Oh come on now. Now that's just ridiculous. Jobs chairman of Disney?
On the plus side, Mickey would come in 5 different colors.
So Steve Jobs wants to sell both his companies for a huge profit while retaining control of both of them, and come out of the whole deal as chairman of Disney, huh?
Gee, I didn't realize Steve and I had so much in common.
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I'd like to see some reference for your interpretation, since it would be "take it AS a grain of salt" if you are correct. It just doesn't make sense, otherwise.
I thought they were under (somewhat onerous) contract for _three_ films, which were Toy Story, Bug's Life, and TS 2.
They're done with that, so any new stuff with Disney is part of a new and I hope much more lucrative deal.
Just like everyone was saying 3 months ago, and 3 months before that, etc.
Last time it was a Mac Rumors site, now it's the Drudge report. I won't hold my breath
Why would they merge anyway?
"Both companies would be divisions of DISNEY, with Steve being president of both, as well as chairman of WALT DISNEY Co."
I can see why Disney would give up it's position, since they make more money than Apple and Pixar combined.
Steve will not sell PIXAR without APPLE
Why not are we really supposed to by all the Jobs hype? He has more stock in PIXAR and has shown more interest in PIXAR.
This is the first time I've ever read anything from the Drudge Report before, but this is pretty low on the feeding chain if you ask me, the whole thing reads like rumor mongering and seems to have as much integrity as a crack whore.
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Well the renderfarm is SUN, but the workstations are Macs and SGI.
Like that will happen when H. Ross Perot gets elected president of the USA and Apple starts making Intel CPU based workstations! Arrrrggggghhhhhh!
In other words:
When pigs fly!
When the Phoenix Cardinals win the Superbowl.
When the USA annexes Canada and Mexico!
When the Internet is cleaned up of SPAM Junk mail!
Ahh, ok, my bad. Sun, not SGI.
What's really interesting are the rumors that SGI and LucasFilm have a special deal where LucasFilm gets free SGI hardware, and in exchange they never mention that they use Macintoshes.
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grain of salt the size of a Ford Taurus
Next we'll see stuff like "this new graphics card is sweeter than a Pepsi on a hot summer day".
For all intensive purposes, "whom" is no longer a word. That begs the question, "who cares"?
it could make sense...... not necessarily, but it could.
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36 hours for each frame?
36 hours times 30 frames per second, times 60 seconds per minutes, times 130 minutes, divided by 24 hours in a day, devided by 365 days= 961 years. Are you sure that's correct? o.0
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In other words, " If that's the case, I don't know how to react!"
Just when I was thinking about buying an iBook or a G4. I don't want to buy one and have The Pharoh's New Groove (or whatever it's called) trailers pushed to me every time a new one is released! ...or even worse, have new desktop backgrounds pushed to me with a new sickening Disney movie theme every week.
Please, say it ain't so! It's bad enough that Disney has so much pull where Pixar movies are concerned. Toy Story and A Bug's Life would be such much better without that crappy Disney 'musician'!
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I have a website. It's about Macs.
I always thought of Apple as a Mickey Mouse operation.
why do I have the overwhelming urge to yell SHADOWRUN!
heh big corps ar a commin....all we need now are the cyberware and bioware clinics and a worldwide matrix to jack into and a few cyberdecks!
Wheeehehehe.
and maybe chicago to be walled off but hey that should of been done a long time ago.
-Sarkdas (So my char has -15 essence whats the problem? *roll roll roll* Oh I see....)
...means a truly mouse-driven user experience.
/me dodges tomatoes.
If these two companies were to merge, I would never consider buying a macintosh. I was considering an iMac, and I will only buy one from an independent Apple. It is bad enough that Disney bought infoseek, my previous favourite search engine, and ABC, a network I don't care about anyways. Nope, I don't want this Mickey-Mouse company messing up such a Good Thing.
Lowmag.net
Dude, get a life.
Now that's the pot calling the kettle black!
.sig here "Never attribute to malice what can be explained by stupidity"??
/. is so international, maybe he's never heard the saying before, so he doesn't unnderstand it.
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My, My. Aren't we the picture of racial enlightenment? I rather you just say it than use boring, trite euphemisms like this bit. I can't believe that the moderators will let something like this slip, but as soon as some one says something in defense of one of the Truly Taboo Topics, Boom: -2.
Wait, wait. Everyone's jumping on this guy assuming he's a troll. But you've missed 2 possible explanations. Isn't someone's
Possible explanation 1: Maybe "the pot calling the kettle black" is a mostly American/European saying. (I don't know). Since
Possible explanation 2: Poor guy is a product of the American educational system and doesn't know that way back in time before aluminum, pots and kettles used to be made of cast iron, and were, well, black.
So, give him a break. Assume he doesn't know that it's a silly saying. Maybe it should be changed to be more modern. Like, oh, I don't know, "There's Clinton calling Beatty a womanizer"
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