What, you can't do so yourself? The only reference I can see is this post , which mentions the Wikipedia article on Circumcision. Is this the one you're referring to? If so, why are you being a difficult ass, when you could have just linked to it?
Meanwhile, you still haven't provided details of the war, the material you were trying to have included, etc, so we're still relying on your word that something "egregious" actually happened, as opposed to you just having an axe to grind.
And I see you still haven't provided a reference to the article, or any other supporting material. If this POV-pushing is so darned egregious, the least you could do is let people judge for themselves. Unless, of course, you're only interested in pushing *your* POV...
and you'll pay for the cleanup whether or not the company is "held accountable."
Yes, but if the company isn't "held accountable", then everyone else, including people who insist on using green power, pay for the use of non-green energy, hence the subsidy I was referring to. Again, the whole point is to force people to actually pay for their energy use. Having the cost for cleanup, etc, charged back to the power company, who will then reflect it in one's bill, is the only reasonable (and ethical, IMHO) way of doing this.
So it's more than just making people aware. It's about holding people accountable for their actions, while correcting a flaw in the free market such that competition can occur on a level playing field.
Sorry, not in this brave new world. For example, all I need to do is label you a terrorist, and it's suddenly okay to torture you and imprison you without trial. But it's okay, because you're an evil, dirty terrorist.
Similarly, if I were to place you in jail for, say, smoking pot, it would be perfectly okay for your fellow inmates to anally rape you, and it would also be a-okay for me to joke about it, because you're an evil drug dealer.
I'm sure I could go on, but I think you get the idea.
Which is only fair, because it's the individual's power use which is ultimately the cause of environmental damage, etc. Hell, that's the *whole point* of forcing industry to pay for the additional cost of energy production. It results in those costs being properly reflected in the bills of the energy consumers, who can then choose an overall cheaper power source, such as green power.
Frankly, I would've expected this would be obvious. Apparently I expect too much...
You pay either way, the cost shows up in your tax bill or your electric bill.
Yeah, duh, that's called market forces. The point, here, is that people, *people*, should be paying for the damage *their energy use* causes. Right now, traditional power generation is unfairly subsidized by everyone else, in the form of taxes used to pay for environmental cleanup, healthcare costs which are paid for by the users of the system, and so forth. As a result, the damage my energy use causes isn't reflected in my power bill. These are referred to as negative externalities, and capitalism does a pretty shitty job dealing with them.
To fix this, those costs should be reflected in the price and charged back to the user, IOW, you, me, and everyone else consuming power. And as a consequence, eventually, people will discover that clean energy is cheaper, because it has fewer negative externalities, and also isn't held hostage to resource scarcity. When that happens, people will switch. And voila, the free market works as it should.
Aha, I see you've figured it out after all! Yeah... fact is, most of us haven't matured emotionally beyond, oh, grade 6, I'd say. Welcome to the world of men. I don't like it any more than you do.
Or you could work as a contractor or otherwise self employed.
Assuming you're in a career where that's possible, sure. Most people aren't.
Or you could work in academia.
Same as above.
Or be good enough at your job that they're willing to give you 4 to 5 weeks of time off a year
Definitely same as above. And this is very much a function of one's employer, as well as one's capability (my employer might allow it... I'd bet most wouldn't).
Seriously, it's doable.
For some, yes. For most, probably not. Again, it depends on an immense number of factors, including education, choice of vocation, and many other things. Sounds like you're one of the privileged few. Count yourself lucky.
Though, to be fair, it's not the kind of lifestyle I'd prefer (I enjoy some amount of security... not knowing if I'm gonna have a job or a place to live in a month would probably leave me with ulcers:).
Right there is enough to take off a month once a year and go to someplace interesting.
So then you quit your job, go trucking off for a month, and come back to... nothing. So you have to re-establish yourself, get another job, and repeat, hoping that your employer won't look at your resume and say to himself "shit, this guy's gonna leave in a year... maybe I'll see what the next guy is like".
Have fun scrapping leaves out of the gutter while I'm learning how to surf in Costa Rica. And keep telling yourself that life will be good when you retire at 65. I'm sure that you'll still be able to backpack through Nepal at that age.
Yeah, I still don't get it. If you're busy surfing and backpacking, where the hell does the money come from to afford these little adventures? I mean, you must have to work occasionally, no?
So help out a N00b. Is Open GL strictly for graphics, or does it cover other system calls like sound and user IO?
Graphics only.
Why oh why is there nothing out there that allows programmers to write some kind of ANSI coded games that will compile on mutiple operating systems without error or modification?
I take it you've never heard of SDL? Just use an OpenGL-enabled surface for graphics, and the standard SDL APIs for sound and input.
I fail to see how being proprietary necessarily makes code horrible.
Well, to play devil's advocate (I happen to agree with you, actually), it may be true that, given the scale of large open source projects, and the nature of the collaboration (anonymous over the intarwebs), it may simply be necessary for developers to write cleaner code, as that code is one of the primary forms of communication between the various team members. After all, it's not like koffice developer #1 can just walk down the hall and ask koffice developer #2 what the hell he was thinking when he wrote some piece of code.
I would think, in a situation where there's four trained policeman on one suspect, they would be able to subdue the individual *without* having to crack their skull with a baton, or electrocute them with a taser. But, hey, maybe I'm just expecting too much...
Wrong. They tased him BEFORE they got the cuffs on. He was squirming so much they were unable to cuff him.
Wait wait... so now it's okay to taze a prone suspect because he makes it difficult for you to put on the cuffs? IOW, it's okay for fucking lazy cops to use a tazer in lieu of proper arrest procedure? Well... that's just awesome.
And as far as injury, 3-4 large men with night sticks would seem to be very liable to cause an injury
Jesus christ, since when did subduing someone involve "3-4 large men with night sticks" clubbing the fuck out of someone? How would *that* not also be excessive use of force??
The Dark Tower climax is a gigantamondic inti-climax of ginormous proportions.
Wow, I couldn't disagree more. The "ending" to DT left me with shivers, despite the fact that, frankly, the lead-up was a bit of a stinker (he goes on and on about Mordred, and that's what happens to him? Meanwhile, *that* is the Crimson King? Seriously?).
Or fire the asshole for not following the coding guidelines of the company. Sorry, but if you hire some nitwit who needs the language to force them to write proper, readable code, you deserve what you get.
Assuming you can find a well-seeded torrent, or you're willing to wait weeks for your download to complete (assuming it does). Personally, I would argue that old or niche programming is precisely where bittorrent falls down.
Not to mention that many people who might want to run the latest Ubuntu simply don't have video cards or PCs with the horsepower to run this.
Say what? Who doesn't have even a basic 3D accelerator, these days? I mean, sure, Ubuntu *could* tailor their distro to the few people out there still running Mach64 cards, but why would they bother?
On the contrary, socialism requires perfect information in order to perfectly plan and allocate resources
I'm not sure what your point is, other than to further illustrate that idealised communism isn't realistic, a fact I've already admitted.
Capitalism requires perfect information only if you want or need to make a perfect long-term decision every time
BS. Take, for example, drugs. In a pure capitalist world, a company is free to market drugs with long-term side-effects. In this case, you have a combination of asymmetric information (the drug company is aware but chooses not to share the information), combined with externalities (long-term health costs). I'm sure one could come up with many other examples (the insurance industry comes to mind).
Capitalism and free markets are poor at dealing with public goods
No, capitalism is poor in any case where there are negative externalities. These externalities aren't factored into the cost of products, and thus are effectively subsidized. This can be true of both public and private goods (for example, imagine a corporation setting up a factory which pollutes a vast swath of private farm land).
What, you can't do so yourself? The only reference I can see is this post , which mentions the Wikipedia article on Circumcision. Is this the one you're referring to? If so, why are you being a difficult ass, when you could have just linked to it?
Meanwhile, you still haven't provided details of the war, the material you were trying to have included, etc, so we're still relying on your word that something "egregious" actually happened, as opposed to you just having an axe to grind.
And I see you still haven't provided a reference to the article, or any other supporting material. If this POV-pushing is so darned egregious, the least you could do is let people judge for themselves. Unless, of course, you're only interested in pushing *your* POV...
and you'll pay for the cleanup whether or not the company is "held accountable."
Yes, but if the company isn't "held accountable", then everyone else, including people who insist on using green power, pay for the use of non-green energy, hence the subsidy I was referring to. Again, the whole point is to force people to actually pay for their energy use. Having the cost for cleanup, etc, charged back to the power company, who will then reflect it in one's bill, is the only reasonable (and ethical, IMHO) way of doing this.
So it's more than just making people aware. It's about holding people accountable for their actions, while correcting a flaw in the free market such that competition can occur on a level playing field.
Sorry, not in this brave new world. For example, all I need to do is label you a terrorist, and it's suddenly okay to torture you and imprison you without trial. But it's okay, because you're an evil, dirty terrorist.
Similarly, if I were to place you in jail for, say, smoking pot, it would be perfectly okay for your fellow inmates to anally rape you, and it would also be a-okay for me to joke about it, because you're an evil drug dealer.
I'm sure I could go on, but I think you get the idea.
Which is only fair, because it's the individual's power use which is ultimately the cause of environmental damage, etc. Hell, that's the *whole point* of forcing industry to pay for the additional cost of energy production. It results in those costs being properly reflected in the bills of the energy consumers, who can then choose an overall cheaper power source, such as green power.
Frankly, I would've expected this would be obvious. Apparently I expect too much...
You pay either way, the cost shows up in your tax bill or your electric bill.
Yeah, duh, that's called market forces. The point, here, is that people, *people*, should be paying for the damage *their energy use* causes. Right now, traditional power generation is unfairly subsidized by everyone else, in the form of taxes used to pay for environmental cleanup, healthcare costs which are paid for by the users of the system, and so forth. As a result, the damage my energy use causes isn't reflected in my power bill. These are referred to as negative externalities, and capitalism does a pretty shitty job dealing with them.
To fix this, those costs should be reflected in the price and charged back to the user, IOW, you, me, and everyone else consuming power. And as a consequence, eventually, people will discover that clean energy is cheaper, because it has fewer negative externalities, and also isn't held hostage to resource scarcity. When that happens, people will switch. And voila, the free market works as it should.
It makes me feel like I'm in elementary school
Aha, I see you've figured it out after all! Yeah... fact is, most of us haven't matured emotionally beyond, oh, grade 6, I'd say. Welcome to the world of men. I don't like it any more than you do.
Or you could work as a contractor or otherwise self employed.
:).
Assuming you're in a career where that's possible, sure. Most people aren't.
Or you could work in academia.
Same as above.
Or be good enough at your job that they're willing to give you 4 to 5 weeks of time off a year
Definitely same as above. And this is very much a function of one's employer, as well as one's capability (my employer might allow it... I'd bet most wouldn't).
Seriously, it's doable.
For some, yes. For most, probably not. Again, it depends on an immense number of factors, including education, choice of vocation, and many other things. Sounds like you're one of the privileged few. Count yourself lucky.
Though, to be fair, it's not the kind of lifestyle I'd prefer (I enjoy some amount of security... not knowing if I'm gonna have a job or a place to live in a month would probably leave me with ulcers
Right there is enough to take off a month once a year and go to someplace interesting.
So then you quit your job, go trucking off for a month, and come back to... nothing. So you have to re-establish yourself, get another job, and repeat, hoping that your employer won't look at your resume and say to himself "shit, this guy's gonna leave in a year... maybe I'll see what the next guy is like".
Not married, yourself, are you? :)
Have fun scrapping leaves out of the gutter while I'm learning how to surf in Costa Rica. And keep telling yourself that life will be good when you retire at 65. I'm sure that you'll still be able to backpack through Nepal at that age.
Yeah, I still don't get it. If you're busy surfing and backpacking, where the hell does the money come from to afford these little adventures? I mean, you must have to work occasionally, no?
So help out a N00b. Is Open GL strictly for graphics, or does it cover other system calls like sound and user IO?
Graphics only.
Why oh why is there nothing out there that allows programmers to write some kind of ANSI coded games that will compile on mutiple operating systems without error or modification?
I take it you've never heard of SDL? Just use an OpenGL-enabled surface for graphics, and the standard SDL APIs for sound and input.
NO, I WANT detailed information on what is in the chapters *before* I buy the book!
Umm... isn't that what the table of contents is for?
I fail to see how being proprietary necessarily makes code horrible.
Well, to play devil's advocate (I happen to agree with you, actually), it may be true that, given the scale of large open source projects, and the nature of the collaboration (anonymous over the intarwebs), it may simply be necessary for developers to write cleaner code, as that code is one of the primary forms of communication between the various team members. After all, it's not like koffice developer #1 can just walk down the hall and ask koffice developer #2 what the hell he was thinking when he wrote some piece of code.
I would think, in a situation where there's four trained policeman on one suspect, they would be able to subdue the individual *without* having to crack their skull with a baton, or electrocute them with a taser. But, hey, maybe I'm just expecting too much...
Wrong. They tased him BEFORE they got the cuffs on. He was squirming so much they were unable to cuff him.
Wait wait... so now it's okay to taze a prone suspect because he makes it difficult for you to put on the cuffs? IOW, it's okay for fucking lazy cops to use a tazer in lieu of proper arrest procedure? Well... that's just awesome.
And as far as injury, 3-4 large men with night sticks would seem to be very liable to cause an injury
Jesus christ, since when did subduing someone involve "3-4 large men with night sticks" clubbing the fuck out of someone? How would *that* not also be excessive use of force??
The Dark Tower climax is a gigantamondic inti-climax of ginormous proportions.
Wow, I couldn't disagree more. The "ending" to DT left me with shivers, despite the fact that, frankly, the lead-up was a bit of a stinker (he goes on and on about Mordred, and that's what happens to him? Meanwhile, *that* is the Crimson King? Seriously?).
Or fire the asshole for not following the coding guidelines of the company. Sorry, but if you hire some nitwit who needs the language to force them to write proper, readable code, you deserve what you get.
Flamebait? Seriously? Wow, apparently the mods really are on crack today...
The interesting thing is, this is basically what Nintendo did with the Wii...
Assuming you can find a well-seeded torrent, or you're willing to wait weeks for your download to complete (assuming it does). Personally, I would argue that old or niche programming is precisely where bittorrent falls down.
But anyway the real issue here is that Compiz is not yet stable enough to be enabled by default.
:)
That I completely agree with. But that wasn't the GP's complaint, now, was it?
Not to mention that many people who might want to run the latest Ubuntu simply don't have video cards or PCs with the horsepower to run this.
Say what? Who doesn't have even a basic 3D accelerator, these days? I mean, sure, Ubuntu *could* tailor their distro to the few people out there still running Mach64 cards, but why would they bother?
On the contrary, socialism requires perfect information in order to perfectly plan and allocate resources
I'm not sure what your point is, other than to further illustrate that idealised communism isn't realistic, a fact I've already admitted.
Capitalism requires perfect information only if you want or need to make a perfect long-term decision every time
BS. Take, for example, drugs. In a pure capitalist world, a company is free to market drugs with long-term side-effects. In this case, you have a combination of asymmetric information (the drug company is aware but chooses not to share the information), combined with externalities (long-term health costs). I'm sure one could come up with many other examples (the insurance industry comes to mind).
Capitalism and free markets are poor at dealing with public goods
No, capitalism is poor in any case where there are negative externalities. These externalities aren't factored into the cost of products, and thus are effectively subsidized. This can be true of both public and private goods (for example, imagine a corporation setting up a factory which pollutes a vast swath of private farm land).