I hope programmers don't equate "most clicked" with "more valuable" or "more useful." In my view this is a useless statistic.
Then thank god you aren't a UI designer.
These are the *precisely* kinds of metrics one wants when optimizing a user interface, as "most clicked" *absolutely* equates to "most valuable", in the sense that it's the most frequently used feature, and therefore invoking that feature should be made as easy as possible.
Please, 100k+ is nothing for a professional job with a high-level degree. And a PhD could do *far* better in industry, so why the fuck waste time at a university if your goal is to get filthy rich?
Sorry, no, it's a ridiculous, idiotic conspiracy theory, but it rings true because it's simplistic and panders to our base instincts regarding money and the capacity for human corruption. Got love thinking with your gut...
But why do you care about those who "never even tried"? That says absolutely nothing about the job market, and speaks only to their motivation to work in the industry.
So what you're saying is....in a few short years because of this error-ladden mission, we should be flying to work Jetson's style, thanks to the Japanese?
Precisely. Also, those cars will fold up into briefcases, and we'll all have talking dogs.
But it may mean that the "grip of death" issues are *far* less severe than originally reported. After all, if you were only getting 2 bars to begin with, having it drop from 2->1 instead of 5->2 isn't nearly as bad.
"The Church" is often and commonly used to refer to the entire group.
No, "the church" is used to refer to the Catholic church, a corrupt religious establishment that exists as its own nation, and believes it exists outside of the laws of the countries it operates in.
The Catholic Church != "The christian church".
Furthermore:
"The christian church" != Christians.
Christians are individual people, whose beliefs range from young-earth bible-thumpery, to United Church-style extreme inclusivity. From people who quietly study the bible in the privacy of their homes, to the those (such as the ones who decided to knock on my door today) who feel the compulsive need to proselytize to everyone they meet.
You seem to think they're a unified group that you can deride as a whole. That makes to a prejudicial bigot.
If you are an atheist I'll eat my saddle.
Well, enjoy, I recommend ketchup, they can be a little dry.
See, unlike you, while I'm an atheist and feel that your average Christian is on par with believers in magic or astrology, I don't feel the need to be an asshole about it, so long as they keep it to themselves.
You, on the other hand, seem to feel the need to deride all Christians, regardless of their individual behaviour. And *that* is classic bigotry. Well done! You've managed to sink to the level of the worst Christians, while simultaneously attempting to deride them. It would be funny if it weren't so sad.
Of course, that means you also have another thing in common with the worst Christians: a life lived in hypocrisy, without even realizing it.
Show the christians tolerance? What tolerance has the church shown?
Christians != "the church"
Congratulations, your irrationality has made you just another kind of bigot (and for the record, I'm a hard athiest, I'm just not an asshole about it).
Oh god I know. That is, of course, why there's a fucking stampede of scientists just itching to become filthy, stinking rich doing research at a cushy university. *snicker*
When explaining science to the public my aim is not so much to "dumb it down" as to not use technical jargon and to avoid worrying about unnecessary details.
The tricky thing, here, is that often that involves switching to things like metaphors, and other less precise instruments, for delivering that information. And unfortunately, people often don't understand they're only getting part of the picture. The result is people thinking they, for example, understand Godel's Incompleteness Theorm in it's entirety based on some superficial metaphor that barely scratches the surface of it's implications, at which point they think they can use it to prove the existence of God.
Meh, that's hardly surprising. Combine the following ingredients:
1. Higher education, creating a false sense that the person's degree instills in them expertise outside their area of education, 2. A set of pre-existing beliefs regarding "the other side" (be it liberals, environmental activists, etc), and 3. Confirmation bias.
And you basically have a recipe for a global warming pseudo-skeptic.
Now I use LaTeX whenever I can since the output is so beautiful and I can type lists and tables a lot faster than I can mouse them in in Word.
And, as a bonus, it's actually amenable to version control. Nothing like being able to throw a document into cvs/svn/git/what-have-you, and have real, sensible diffs to tell you how the document changed over time, without resorting to storing all that version info in the damn document format itself where it can't be accessed by anything but specialized software designed to work with that format.
"They don't like the thing that I like, and while they provide all kinds of solid technical reasons why the thing I like isn't good enough, I'm going to completely ignore them and assume they're just 'nefarious'".
I mean, who really wants to argue based on, like, logic and reason and junk? It's so much easier to simply attack the messenger, plug your ears, and yell LA LA LA as loud as you can...
. I never said anything of the kind, but you assert it, serve it up, and mock it all at once.
You didn't. The original post I responded to did. To quote:
polling is fucking joke. all results from the left, or the right, is complete bullshit, and a waste of your time
Your point is absolutely valid: it is very difficult to construct a valid poll, and to analyze it's results. I absolutely don't dispute that. What I *do* dispute is the idea that *all* polls are worthless. It's a ridiculous statement that, apparently, you yourself agree with.
Frankly, your original response looks more and more like an attempt to build an argument for kicks. The statement you replied to was:
Or, to put it another way, it's absolutely impossible to know what the people want without asking every single one of them.
What you don't seem to understand is that that was intended to be a mocking restatement of the first quote I provided above, from Mr. Circletimessquare, who *does* appear to think that.
The problem is that loaded questions taint the answer, regardless of whether the statistics are or are not sound.
Yes, because every single poll has loaded questions, and none attempt to compensate for bias. Nope, they're universally crooked affairs that are totally worthless...
But what's abusive about it? That style of browsing, to me, is what tabs are for.
I'm sorry, no, that's absolutely false.
The tab metaphor was *never* intended to accomodate *hundreds* of live tabs. If it were, there would be better mechanisms for organizing tabs, finding them, etc. No, the tab metaphor is meant for *maybe* dozens of tabs, tops.
That takes additional effort to save something for later.
How so? There's literally a click-to-save mode. Click a link, it's saved. It's exactly as easy as using Ctrl+click to open a tab. Easier, in fact.
Failing to close a tab takes zero thought on my part, and negligible system resources. So I just let them pile up.
Which is precisely how Read It Later is meant to work. You build up a reading queue, then go through it at your leisure. You can even use it on multiple devices and across browsers.
Honestly, I'm at a loss to understand your objections, here. But again, meh, if you want to abuse the tab metaphor, so be it. Just don't complain when FF doesn't exhibit the kind of stability you expect.
polling is fucking joke. all results from the left, or the right, is complete bullshit, and a waste of your time
Or, to put it another way, it's absolutely impossible to know what the people want without asking every single one of them.
Genius.
No, wait, sorry, I meant "bullshit". Polling is a tool, and an extremely important one. Can it be done very poorly? Yes, of course, But that needn't necessarily be true. And it's the only option for understanding a population when there's millions and millions of individuals.
Bookmarks require you to reload the page, and are just a list anyway,
a) Reloads... who really cares? b) No, they're a complete hierarchy for organization. They're only a list if you don't know how to use 'em.
But, whatever, if that's how you want to use FF, hey, go nuts. But don't complain if it starts to behave strangely. Any sane person should realize you're *way* outside of the "supported functionality" envelope and are basically abusing the tabbed browsing metaphor (badly).
I typically have 300-400+ tabs open in multiple windows
Good lord, seriously, you're doing it wrong.
30-40 tabs? Fine, whatever. *300-400*? Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you? How the hell can you even manage to *find* the tabs you need? What, did you never learn about that fancy feature called "bookmarks"?
It seems, though, that if patents were violated, the mpeg-la (?) would have mentioned them by name already.
Oh, don't get me wrong, right now, I'm sure this is all posturing. Heck, they've barely had time to fully analyze VP8 and compare it to the technology covered in their (rather large) patent pool.
All I'm saying is that, if it gets to the point where Google and the MPEG-LA can't reach some agreement behind closed doors, I'll be very surprised if it doesn't turn out that VP8 doesn't infringe on any of the patents in the MPEG-LA patent pool.
Ahh, gotta love it when a response that's on the same, firm logical ground as "eat all your food or a starving African child will be sad" gets modded up as insightful...
BTW, what are you doing wasting all this time on Slashdot? Shouldn't you be teaching math to some poor child somewhere? Quit wasting time and snap to it, bucko!
To me, and that's a very personal opinion, tattoos are first a sign of dumbness.
Interesting. To me, the first sign of "dumbness" is the use of words like "dumbness"... (yes, that's petty, but I couldn't help myself...).
They can be beautiful, even impressive, at a point in time. A simple band on a muscled biceps is hot. 10,20,30 years on, it wont be.
Then it's a shitty tattoo. Tramp stamps and bicep bands are the worst examples of trendy tattoo bullshit, IMHO.
Worse, to me again, they kinda smack of the same weak personality that aggressively branded/trendy outfits do
And a tramp stamp almost certainly screams that. But not all tattoos reflect those values. Tattooing is an ancient artform practiced by many cultures for myriad reasons. Or are you telling me that, say, a traditional Samoan sleeve tattoo expresses a "weak personality"?
I realized I'm being an ass, but that's really how I feel about tattoos
Frankly, yes, you are being an ass. Being a judgmental dick is no better than being an overly branded douchebag with a tattoo around his bicep. It's certainly nothing to be proud of (though you'll fit right in here at Slashdot...).
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Nevermind that Spain's experiment with subsidizing solar power is one of the causes of their looming fiscal insolvency.
And now to break out that classic Slashdot trope: Citation needed.
I hope programmers don't equate "most clicked" with "more valuable" or "more useful." In my view this is a useless statistic.
Then thank god you aren't a UI designer.
These are the *precisely* kinds of metrics one wants when optimizing a user interface, as "most clicked" *absolutely* equates to "most valuable", in the sense that it's the most frequently used feature, and therefore invoking that feature should be made as easy as possible.
Please, 100k+ is nothing for a professional job with a high-level degree. And a PhD could do *far* better in industry, so why the fuck waste time at a university if your goal is to get filthy rich?
Sorry, no, it's a ridiculous, idiotic conspiracy theory, but it rings true because it's simplistic and panders to our base instincts regarding money and the capacity for human corruption. Got love thinking with your gut...
But why do you care about those who "never even tried"? That says absolutely nothing about the job market, and speaks only to their motivation to work in the industry.
So what you're saying is....in a few short years because of this error-ladden mission, we should be flying to work Jetson's style, thanks to the Japanese?
Precisely. Also, those cars will fold up into briefcases, and we'll all have talking dogs.
Next question?
But it may mean that the "grip of death" issues are *far* less severe than originally reported. After all, if you were only getting 2 bars to begin with, having it drop from 2->1 instead of 5->2 isn't nearly as bad.
"The Church" is often and commonly used to refer to the entire group.
No, "the church" is used to refer to the Catholic church, a corrupt religious establishment that exists as its own nation, and believes it exists outside of the laws of the countries it operates in.
The Catholic Church != "The christian church".
Furthermore:
"The christian church" != Christians.
Christians are individual people, whose beliefs range from young-earth bible-thumpery, to United Church-style extreme inclusivity. From people who quietly study the bible in the privacy of their homes, to the those (such as the ones who decided to knock on my door today) who feel the compulsive need to proselytize to everyone they meet.
You seem to think they're a unified group that you can deride as a whole. That makes to a prejudicial bigot.
If you are an atheist I'll eat my saddle.
Well, enjoy, I recommend ketchup, they can be a little dry.
See, unlike you, while I'm an atheist and feel that your average Christian is on par with believers in magic or astrology, I don't feel the need to be an asshole about it, so long as they keep it to themselves.
You, on the other hand, seem to feel the need to deride all Christians, regardless of their individual behaviour. And *that* is classic bigotry. Well done! You've managed to sink to the level of the worst Christians, while simultaneously attempting to deride them. It would be funny if it weren't so sad.
Of course, that means you also have another thing in common with the worst Christians: a life lived in hypocrisy, without even realizing it.
In all probability, you're just trolling, but...
Show the christians tolerance? What tolerance has the church shown?
Christians != "the church"
Congratulations, your irrationality has made you just another kind of bigot (and for the record, I'm a hard athiest, I'm just not an asshole about it).
Oh god I know. That is, of course, why there's a fucking stampede of scientists just itching to become filthy, stinking rich doing research at a cushy university. *snicker*
When explaining science to the public my aim is not so much to "dumb it down" as to not use technical jargon and to avoid worrying about unnecessary details.
The tricky thing, here, is that often that involves switching to things like metaphors, and other less precise instruments, for delivering that information. And unfortunately, people often don't understand they're only getting part of the picture. The result is people thinking they, for example, understand Godel's Incompleteness Theorm in it's entirety based on some superficial metaphor that barely scratches the surface of it's implications, at which point they think they can use it to prove the existence of God.
Meh, that's hardly surprising. Combine the following ingredients:
1. Higher education, creating a false sense that the person's degree instills in them expertise outside their area of education,
2. A set of pre-existing beliefs regarding "the other side" (be it liberals, environmental activists, etc), and
3. Confirmation bias.
And you basically have a recipe for a global warming pseudo-skeptic.
Now I use LaTeX whenever I can since the output is so beautiful and I can type lists and tables a lot faster than I can mouse them in in Word.
And, as a bonus, it's actually amenable to version control. Nothing like being able to throw a document into cvs/svn/git/what-have-you, and have real, sensible diffs to tell you how the document changed over time, without resorting to storing all that version info in the damn document format itself where it can't be accessed by anything but specialized software designed to work with that format.
"They don't like the thing that I like, and while they provide all kinds of solid technical reasons why the thing I like isn't good enough, I'm going to completely ignore them and assume they're just 'nefarious'".
I mean, who really wants to argue based on, like, logic and reason and junk? It's so much easier to simply attack the messenger, plug your ears, and yell LA LA LA as loud as you can...
. I never said anything of the kind, but you assert it, serve it up, and mock it all at once.
You didn't. The original post I responded to did. To quote:
Your point is absolutely valid: it is very difficult to construct a valid poll, and to analyze it's results. I absolutely don't dispute that. What I *do* dispute is the idea that *all* polls are worthless. It's a ridiculous statement that, apparently, you yourself agree with.
Frankly, your original response looks more and more like an attempt to build an argument for kicks. The statement you replied to was:
What you don't seem to understand is that that was intended to be a mocking restatement of the first quote I provided above, from Mr. Circletimessquare, who *does* appear to think that.
The problem is that loaded questions taint the answer, regardless of whether the statistics are or are not sound.
Yes, because every single poll has loaded questions, and none attempt to compensate for bias. Nope, they're universally crooked affairs that are totally worthless...
But what's abusive about it? That style of browsing, to me, is what tabs are for.
I'm sorry, no, that's absolutely false.
The tab metaphor was *never* intended to accomodate *hundreds* of live tabs. If it were, there would be better mechanisms for organizing tabs, finding them, etc. No, the tab metaphor is meant for *maybe* dozens of tabs, tops.
Let me guess, you hunt people down with a virtual sniper rifle? No, wait, you slash monsters with your sword in your WoW clan?
That takes additional effort to save something for later.
How so? There's literally a click-to-save mode. Click a link, it's saved. It's exactly as easy as using Ctrl+click to open a tab. Easier, in fact.
Failing to close a tab takes zero thought on my part, and negligible system resources. So I just let them pile up.
Which is precisely how Read It Later is meant to work. You build up a reading queue, then go through it at your leisure. You can even use it on multiple devices and across browsers.
Honestly, I'm at a loss to understand your objections, here. But again, meh, if you want to abuse the tab metaphor, so be it. Just don't complain when FF doesn't exhibit the kind of stability you expect.
polling is fucking joke. all results from the left, or the right, is complete bullshit, and a waste of your time
Or, to put it another way, it's absolutely impossible to know what the people want without asking every single one of them.
Genius.
No, wait, sorry, I meant "bullshit". Polling is a tool, and an extremely important one. Can it be done very poorly? Yes, of course, But that needn't necessarily be true. And it's the only option for understanding a population when there's millions and millions of individuals.
Have you tried Read It Later? Seems like that might fit your browsing model.
Bookmarks require you to reload the page, and are just a list anyway,
a) Reloads... who really cares?
b) No, they're a complete hierarchy for organization. They're only a list if you don't know how to use 'em.
But, whatever, if that's how you want to use FF, hey, go nuts. But don't complain if it starts to behave strangely. Any sane person should realize you're *way* outside of the "supported functionality" envelope and are basically abusing the tabbed browsing metaphor (badly).
I typically have 300-400+ tabs open in multiple windows
Good lord, seriously, you're doing it wrong.
30-40 tabs? Fine, whatever. *300-400*? Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you? How the hell can you even manage to *find* the tabs you need? What, did you never learn about that fancy feature called "bookmarks"?
It seems, though, that if patents were violated, the mpeg-la (?) would have mentioned them by name already.
Oh, don't get me wrong, right now, I'm sure this is all posturing. Heck, they've barely had time to fully analyze VP8 and compare it to the technology covered in their (rather large) patent pool.
All I'm saying is that, if it gets to the point where Google and the MPEG-LA can't reach some agreement behind closed doors, I'll be very surprised if it doesn't turn out that VP8 doesn't infringe on any of the patents in the MPEG-LA patent pool.
Ahh, gotta love it when a response that's on the same, firm logical ground as "eat all your food or a starving African child will be sad" gets modded up as insightful...
BTW, what are you doing wasting all this time on Slashdot? Shouldn't you be teaching math to some poor child somewhere? Quit wasting time and snap to it, bucko!
To me, and that's a very personal opinion, tattoos are first a sign of dumbness.
Interesting. To me, the first sign of "dumbness" is the use of words like "dumbness"... (yes, that's petty, but I couldn't help myself...).
They can be beautiful, even impressive, at a point in time. A simple band on a muscled biceps is hot. 10,20,30 years on, it wont be.
Then it's a shitty tattoo. Tramp stamps and bicep bands are the worst examples of trendy tattoo bullshit, IMHO.
Worse, to me again, they kinda smack of the same weak personality that aggressively branded/trendy outfits do
And a tramp stamp almost certainly screams that. But not all tattoos reflect those values. Tattooing is an ancient artform practiced by many cultures for myriad reasons. Or are you telling me that, say, a traditional Samoan sleeve tattoo expresses a "weak personality"?
I realized I'm being an ass, but that's really how I feel about tattoos
Frankly, yes, you are being an ass. Being a judgmental dick is no better than being an overly branded douchebag with a tattoo around his bicep. It's certainly nothing to be proud of (though you'll fit right in here at Slashdot...).