No no, you don't understand innovate == integrate to a typical Microsoftie.
And to integrate better what do you do? You 'improve' (or release nastier bugs) on your next release. I have an analogy that nobody likes; essentially it's like you're served potato hash one day with catsup. But you can't finish it, so the next day (for breakfast) you get up and it's still on your plate... but the cook puts more potato hash with mustard on top... He grunts and says "It's an upgrade kid gimme 80 bucks" - so you reluctantly pay him because he's the only perceived cafeteria / restaurant / kitchen in town. This continues over the course of nearly 14 years of his 'innovation' to the original food. True, he added onions a year or two ago -- but they are still there and each time you look at it you get sick.
To refute your Windows claim, I wonder why I.E. 4.0 is so perfectly integrated into Windows
Netscape crashes? nooo I wouldn't have guessed. But I probably rack up at least 10 hours behind it a day without mabye a crash or two - then again, at work We run (ick) 95 - which works much better w/ Netscape. 98 has a tendancy to do a if{netscape then/0} sort of bug.
As per Linux - just so you know - please make certian that you are using the variant that is precompiled for the libc you use... most people get the wrong one and it ends up crashing... hrm.
Unfortunately, many coders would rather program something glamorous such as an operating system or game. Something that will get them instant fame. Unfortunately we are not looking at where the real development of the internet is and has gone. Therefore we should all download Mozilla, report bugs and suggest patches. Come on you dolts we do it for everything else.
But no, browsers need to be totally free, as in we need to be lazy about it.
The new engine is supposedly "quite a bit" faster then the current Netscape engine. It also will incorporate W3c standards, as well as some of M$'s "standards" for interoperability.
Well, perhaps people should pay attention to what people are talking about in the talkback part of the article. Not to mention that NS5 will have the Gecko engine, so Internet Explorer will definately feel some fear... Gecko has a rendering subroutine that is really really fast. Internet explorer still seems slow to me on the wind0z3 95 side.
That was at the time that Microsoft didn't have as much market dominance as they do today. Microsoft was just starting to become a bully. All for all some programs such as Creative Writer, Bob, Windows, were very cool innovations. The problem is that over the past few years it controls so much of the market directly and indirectly, and that it also uses it's "powers of innovation" (see the thread to "stop flaming microsoft") to control the market - which in the USA is a bad thing. And the sad thing is that they started out this way, turned into a cool company - and now are back to their old tricks. The problem is now they have enough power and money to make everyone miserable.
No that's not business that is plain and simple monopolistic practices. Nobody said that business couldn't have broad coverage, but when it buys out others en'masse to exert it's market dominance - that is a monopoly.
People at Microsoft don't get hired, they generally get contracted through someone such as Volt or likewise. Not to mention they work many hours and often have substandard pay for a 50+ hour work week.
We're not flaming them, we are genuinely concerned about Microsoft being able to control the marketplace in such a way that that many businesses have no other choice but to follow their word to the letter. And when it encompasses the all of their business -- well you can see where this goes.
Many people on Slashdot are disgruntled geek store owners or x-storeowners that were or are influenced or controlled by Microsoft's market dominance.
Another problem is that Microsoft says it innovates, by definition it integrates and improves. Innovation introduces new ideas - allowing outside influence. Improvement and integration are typical of a proprietary architecture. The only possible way that Microsoft 'innovates' is through massive mergers and acquisitions, possibly introducing new ideas or products to their collective, but this is a shady and anti competitive practice.
Hence Microsoft is a monopoly - read the finding of facts and you may just find out what people are saying.
Well, I've been thinking of starting up a porn site, fuck.com would be quite a wonderful domain for such activity. Now that I think about it - as soon as cybersquatting becomes illegal I may just sue the state of CA for lost revenues...
Here are the facts, I live in Port Orchard - about 70ish miles away from Seattle. Microsoft is commercially strong and really does have a hold on the tech industry. I work for Xypoint - we're in the World Trade Center - the sister building to where VisioMicrosoft owns the business market in this area --
Here is the problem - Very few in the tech industry cares about Microsoft.... why? because it's a moneymaker - and that's all it is. Microsoft is setting themselves up for defeat in this arena why?
Colleges don't want to spend money, and they haven't for years --- Do you think that Berkley pays for BSD? or that the UW pays for Linux etc.? They have a very long standing relationship with Unix -- the entire infastructure is built upon it... why would they for a couple of small products have to hire MCSE's (think about it folks -- they will need to do this the Microsoft way) when they have a whole bunch of Computer Sci students that can admin. the IT infastructure for pennies on the dollar, or free?
This one is a good idea by Microsoft, but I honestly think that they better watch another commercial competitor -- yes Apple. Apple (from what I hear) is going to be striking some major deals with public schools and colleges using their normal client software and their (BSDish) MacosX The end thing here is that Microsoft (still) does not have a good server OS, and until Linux becomes more 'user friendly' most home users or clients are not going to want to use it... I made the switch years ago to Linux, and I have seen amazing improvements but -- they are meeting head on... who will win?
Well in this scenario Think of the nightmare of trying to get this approved just to begin with -- First this deal is going to have to be approved by the head of the IT/CS department, then the students (who would have to learn a whole different OS to keep their jobs) and finally - the budget committe or otherwise accounting (once they see what an MCSE goes for they will simply put a denied stamp on it). -- Some small colleges will go to this, the larger ones for example UW, Berkley, and CMU will not.
Laptops are notoriously proprietary, making a Mac or Sparc station look like a Dual Celleron w/ an abit bp6 board. I have a Dell Latitude XPi 133ST. It took me forever to get any Linux on it. There is nothing wrong with it being 'RedHat' certified (being that they have a lot more resources than any other distrib anyway) -- Linux is Linux regardless of if you throw some commercialism into it. I wish that Neomagic would stop being a stupid about their chipset and just release a non XBF server, that all laptop manufacturers would stop using 'winmodems' -- for one the damn cpu in most laptops is underpowered to begin with you don't need to bog it down any more - and two why? it's terribly slow, and impossible to use. I think that this may be a first step in that direction. (golf claps) -- but there is still a lot of work to be done.
I doubt it, Sun has not been one to entirely embrace the open source market. I could see Sun keeping it free - and developing a Mac version. (insane laughter at M$) But I have this funny idea that Sun Open Sourcing Staroffice is wishful thinking.
Come on guys, let's be honest. The iMac is a wonderful design - it has charm that no PC has ever had - not to mention that the stock price of Apple has risen to the highest it has been in years because of the huge amount of people who have bought an iMac over the past year (about 2 million or so). This is great for Apple as a company - and I like to see a little difference out there. There are so many reasons why PC mfgrs would want to copy this design - profit! Not to mention that most people in the PC market want to get the hell rid of Apple and especially now because they have started to take a bite out of PC sales again.
As far as I am concerned I give them props screw the companies who try to threaten their survival, no matter how ridiculous it may sound.
The US. Govt on the federal level has never had such broad power as it has now. Thomas Jefferson said that when the states loose their power that the democracy will fail. The federal govt has no right to 1) interfere in state affairs and 2) second guess the taxpayers. The federal govt. believes itself to be supreme over everything when it should not be so, and if there is a controversial issue they push it to the states. The federal govt is there to keep the internal affairs of the country cohesive (ie the states can't go to war against each other) and to keep external affairs cohesive (ie so we don't war with other people or they don't war with us).
The federal govt now only passes off issues to the states that are good for the individual. For instance - look at homosexual marriage - something blatantly controversial, not to mention there are good arguments on both sides. But the federal government does not make a play on something that only complicates state law - same with Medical Marajuana, evolution in schools (which shouldn't be a controversial subject imho), or anything that may 'break the mold'. Yes encryption does make it more difficult for the law to crack but who cares? Most people and companies use it as a simple means to protect data, not keep dangerous criminal activities away from other people.
Crime sucks, let's face it - but lets look at the mob in the 1920's, they didn't write down on the registers of the interstate trucks "20 cases of whiskey" they wrote down "20 cases of tomatos" -- even if you get data I seriously doubt that it will help you one damn bit. The best way to break crime is to find rock solid evidence, witnesses (with 6 billion people on earth you'd think someone would have seen 'em)
Not a bad article, unfortunately it looks like someone wrote it from the outside looking in - Linux will not take the same path that everyone else takes. Linux will grow and evolve because the leaders of the technological age (ie: geeks) say it will, regardless of what the general public thinks or knows - we already stick a Linux box do whatever menial task we can think about... just think what will happen in a couple more years.
Well, E*Trade released some time ago that they lost some 125 million dollars, god knows how this past quarter and they do not expect this event to change anytime soon. Personally, I would not invest with E*Trade if my life depended on it (which it probably would if I did) I could just imagine my 100 shares of Red Hat, which I had put the money away for - went poof because some dumbsh*t diddled around with the servers or otherwise the company went T.U.
Dear God people, who the fu*k cares? It's interesting news to see that Linux is becoming a viable gaming platform, a key steppingstone to becoming a consumer operating system. As per whether or not this is slashdot or linuxgames... well, I would have to agree with the principal of this statement but the fact is that most of the people who are on slashdot run linux. Personally I run Linux, Solaris, and MacOS -- and don't even tell me that MacOS != geek, you're still hung up on the fact that your teachers ran it because it was easy... well the MacOS isn't a bad platform, software or hardware - and just because you can install Red Hat 6 doesn't mean that you're a geek either.
Nasa is saying this - Yes the chances are slim, but they will monitor it for a week because they sent it into the wrong place... not like you can really calculate something like a crash landing anywho.
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No no, you don't understand innovate == integrate to a typical Microsoftie.
And to integrate better what do you do? You 'improve' (or release nastier bugs) on your next release. I have an analogy that nobody likes; essentially it's like you're
served potato hash one day with catsup. But you can't finish it, so the next day (for breakfast) you get up and it's still on your plate... but the cook puts more potato
hash with mustard on top... He grunts and says "It's an upgrade kid gimme 80 bucks" - so you reluctantly pay him because he's the only perceived cafeteria /
restaurant / kitchen in town. This continues over the course of nearly 14 years of his 'innovation' to the original food. True, he added onions a year or two ago -- but
they are still there and each time you look at it you get sick.
To refute your Windows claim, I wonder why I.E. 4.0 is so perfectly integrated into Windows
/0} sort of bug.
... hrm.
Netscape crashes? nooo I wouldn't have guessed. But I probably rack up at least 10 hours behind it a day without mabye a crash or two - then again, at work We run (ick) 95 - which works much better w/ Netscape. 98 has a tendancy to do a if{netscape then
As per Linux - just so you know - please make certian that you are using the variant that is precompiled for the libc you use... most people get the wrong one and it ends up crashing
At any rate, I'm just ranting l8rz
amazon.com switching from netscape enterprise server to apache is a fairly large move -- or at least that is what I would think.
Unfortunately, many coders would rather program something glamorous such as an operating system or game. Something that will get them instant fame. Unfortunately we are not looking at where the real development of the internet is and has gone. Therefore we should all download Mozilla, report bugs and suggest patches. Come on you dolts we do it for everything else.
But no, browsers need to be totally free, as in we need to be lazy about it.
Sad huh?
The new engine is supposedly "quite a bit" faster then the current Netscape engine. It also will incorporate W3c standards, as well as some of M$'s "standards" for interoperability.
:)
Oh, and a new Java engine from Sun
Well, perhaps people should pay attention to what people are talking about in the talkback part of the article. Not to mention that NS5 will have the Gecko engine, so Internet Explorer will definately feel some fear ... Gecko has a rendering subroutine that is really really fast. Internet explorer still seems slow to me on the wind0z3 95 side.
That was at the time that Microsoft didn't have as much market dominance as they do today. Microsoft was just starting to become a bully. All for all some programs such as Creative Writer, Bob, Windows, were very cool innovations. The problem is that over the past few years it controls so much of the market directly and indirectly, and that it also uses it's "powers of innovation" (see the thread to "stop flaming microsoft") to control the market - which in the USA is a bad thing. And the sad thing is that they started out this way, turned into a cool company - and now are back to their old tricks. The problem is now they have enough power and money to make everyone miserable.
Good to see you agree :)
No that's not business that is plain and simple monopolistic practices. Nobody said that business couldn't have broad coverage, but when it buys out others en'masse to exert it's market dominance - that is a monopoly.
You callin' me an ubergeek? :p
People at Microsoft don't get hired, they generally get contracted through someone such as Volt or likewise. Not to mention they work many hours and often have
substandard pay for a 50+ hour work week.
We're not flaming them, we are genuinely concerned about Microsoft being able to control the marketplace in such a way that that many businesses have no other
choice but to follow their word to the letter. And when it encompasses the all of their business -- well you can see where this goes.
Many people on Slashdot are disgruntled geek store owners or x-storeowners that were or are influenced or controlled by Microsoft's market dominance.
Another problem is that Microsoft says it innovates, by definition it integrates and improves. Innovation introduces new ideas - allowing outside influence.
Improvement and integration are typical of a proprietary architecture. The only possible way that Microsoft 'innovates' is through massive mergers and acquisitions,
possibly introducing new ideas or products to their collective, but this is a shady and anti competitive practice.
Hence Microsoft is a monopoly - read the finding of facts and you may just find out what people are saying.
Well I give them a high five, way to go!
Just imagine the geeky profiles that we all could have --- and all the money we could make :)
But, it's only a dream, right Rob?
Slashdot should have a financial advise page, what stocks are rumored to IPO at a couple of bucks and then go up by 4 or 500% later that day ;)
Looks like it twas slashdotted eh? ;-)
Well, I've been thinking of starting up a porn site, fuck.com would be quite a wonderful domain for such activity. Now that I think about it - as soon as cybersquatting becomes illegal I may just sue the state of CA for lost revenues...
Yeah, I stole your idea and posted it heh
Here is the problem - Very few in the tech industry cares about Microsoft.... why? because it's a moneymaker - and that's all it is. Microsoft is setting themselves up for defeat in this arena why?
Colleges don't want to spend money, and they haven't for years --- Do you think that Berkley pays for BSD? or that the UW pays for Linux etc.? They have a very long standing relationship with Unix -- the entire infastructure is built upon it... why would they for a couple of small products have to hire MCSE's (think about it folks -- they will need to do this the Microsoft way) when they have a whole bunch of Computer Sci students that can admin. the IT infastructure for pennies on the dollar, or free?
This one is a good idea by Microsoft, but I honestly think that they better watch another commercial competitor -- yes Apple. Apple (from what I hear) is going to be striking some major deals with public schools and colleges using their normal client software and their (BSDish) MacosX The end thing here is that Microsoft (still) does not have a good server OS, and until Linux becomes more 'user friendly' most home users or clients are not going to want to use it... I made the switch years ago to Linux, and I have seen amazing improvements but -- they are meeting head on ... who will win?
Well in this scenario Think of the nightmare of trying to get this approved just to begin with -- First this deal is going to have to be approved by the head of the IT/CS department, then the students (who would have to learn a whole different OS to keep their jobs) and finally - the budget committe or otherwise accounting (once they see what an MCSE goes for they will simply put a denied stamp on it). -- Some small colleges will go to this, the larger ones for example UW, Berkley, and CMU will not.
What do you think?
Laptops are notoriously proprietary, making a Mac or Sparc station look like a Dual Celleron w/ an abit bp6 board. I have a Dell Latitude XPi 133ST. It took me forever to get any Linux on it. There is nothing wrong with it being 'RedHat' certified (being that they have a lot more resources than any other distrib anyway) -- Linux is Linux regardless of if you throw some commercialism into it. I wish that Neomagic would stop being a stupid about their chipset and just release a non XBF server, that all laptop manufacturers would stop using 'winmodems' -- for one the damn cpu in most laptops is underpowered to begin with you don't need to bog it down any more - and two why? it's terribly slow, and impossible to use. I think that this may be a first step in that direction. (golf claps) -- but there is still a lot of work to be done.
I doubt it, Sun has not been one to entirely embrace the open source market. I could see Sun keeping it free - and developing a Mac version. (insane laughter at M$) But I have this funny idea that Sun Open Sourcing Staroffice is wishful thinking.
Come on guys, let's be honest. The iMac is a wonderful design - it has charm that no PC has ever had - not to mention that the stock price of Apple has risen to the highest it has been in years because of the huge amount of people who have bought an iMac over the past year (about 2 million or so). This is great for Apple as a company - and I like to see a little difference out there. There are so many reasons why PC mfgrs would want to copy this design - profit! Not to mention that most people in the PC market want to get the hell rid of Apple and especially now because they have started to take a bite out of PC sales again.
As far as I am concerned I give them props screw the companies who try to threaten their survival, no matter how ridiculous it may sound.
The US. Govt on the federal level has never had such broad power as it has now. Thomas Jefferson said that when the states loose their power that the democracy will fail. The federal govt has no right to 1) interfere in state affairs and 2) second guess the taxpayers. The federal govt. believes itself to be supreme over everything when it should not be so, and if there is a controversial issue they push it to the states. The federal govt is there to keep the internal affairs of the country cohesive (ie the states can't go to war against each other) and to keep external affairs cohesive (ie so we don't war with other people or they don't war with us).
The federal govt now only passes off issues to the states that are good for the individual. For instance - look at homosexual marriage - something blatantly controversial, not to mention there are good arguments on both sides. But the federal government does not make a play on something that only complicates state law - same with Medical Marajuana, evolution in schools (which shouldn't be a controversial subject imho), or anything that may 'break the mold'. Yes encryption does make it more difficult for the law to crack but who cares? Most people and companies use it as a simple means to protect data, not keep dangerous criminal activities away from other people.
Crime sucks, let's face it - but lets look at the mob in the 1920's, they didn't write down on the registers of the interstate trucks "20 cases of whiskey" they wrote down "20 cases of tomatos" -- even if you get data I seriously doubt that it will help you one damn bit. The best way to break crime is to find rock solid evidence, witnesses (with 6 billion people on earth you'd think someone would have seen 'em)
Let's keep the USA a democracy please.
Not a bad article, unfortunately it looks like someone wrote it from the outside looking in - Linux will not take the same path that everyone else takes. Linux will grow and evolve because the leaders of the technological age (ie: geeks) say it will, regardless of what the general public thinks or knows - we already stick a Linux box do whatever menial task we can think about ... just think what will happen in a couple more years.
Well, E*Trade released some time ago that they lost some 125 million dollars, god knows how this past quarter and they do not expect this event to change anytime soon. Personally, I would not invest with E*Trade if my life depended on it (which it probably would if I did) I could just imagine my 100 shares of Red Hat, which I had put the money away for - went poof because some dumbsh*t diddled around with the servers or otherwise the company went T.U.
Dear God people, who the fu*k cares? It's interesting news to see that Linux is becoming a viable gaming platform, a key steppingstone to becoming a consumer ... well, I would have to agree with the principal of this statement but the fact is that most of
operating system. As per whether or not this is slashdot or linuxgames
the people who are on slashdot run linux. Personally I run Linux, Solaris, and MacOS -- and don't even tell me that MacOS != geek, you're still hung up on the fact
that your teachers ran it because it was easy... well the MacOS isn't a bad platform, software or hardware - and just because you can install Red Hat 6 doesn't mean
that you're a geek either.
Nasa is saying this - Yes the chances are slim, but they will monitor it for a week because they sent it into the wrong place... not like you can really calculate something like a crash landing anywho.