Linux has a history of two separate options that do basically the same thing. There is no 'one' Linux company, nor is there a single user interface, or what about the VM in 2.4? Does it actually matter that Oracle is loosing its patience? And why should Oracle really care anyway? They are an application provider, yes I know it's a database... big deal. The whole idea of virtualization is that the application doesn't need to care whether it is running on real hardware or virtual hardware. I don't see Oracle working with Microsoft or MySQL AB to develop a single SQL interface.
In my experience, the 'achievement and goals' mentality seem to stem from a corporate-culture, while open source projects generally have a vision but the vision can change over time and the 'goals' change with the community. In general what I've noticed is that projects that concern themselves with the community rather than the goals tend to stay afloat longer than those that have a directive. If opendarwin became a place where osx-focused oss projects were housed / referenced, then why call that a failure? Perhaps it wasn't what the creators of the project had in mind initially, but it seems pretty unfortunate to loose this resource in the community.
`I don't understand you,' said Alice. `It's dreadfully confusing!' `That's the effect of living backwards,' the Queen said kindly: `it always makes one a little giddy at first --' `Living backwards!' Alice repeated in great astonishment. `I never heard of such a thing!' `-- but there's one great advantage in it, that one's memory works both ways.' `I'm sure mine only works one way,' Alice remarked. `I can't remember things before they happen.' `It's a poor sort of memory that only works backwards,' the Queen remarked.
Aside from blaring user error (i.e. any command using -R) it is my opinion that the computer is already compromised if you are using have the system console. Gaining root or hardware access is fairly simple and things such as encrypted filesystems are obviously out of the Linspire's scope. While I believe it would have been "better" had they used a sudo-like implementation (e.g. ksudo / MacOSX) I can understand why a business would take the root approach.
When liberals and conservatives agree that tends to be an indicator of the gravity of the issue. The gravity here is deep concern over our children and social health. My opinion is that it's not funny anymore, and it never was.
Something I noticed from http://www.adti.net/background/mission.html
Paragraph 1: ADTI: Since 1988, the Alexis de' Tocqueville Institution has studied the spread of perfection of democracy around the world.
BjL: Most open source pundits do not believe that perfection is something to be attained through democracy.
ADTI: In this, we follow the principles of Tocqueville himself, while claiming no unique mandate to represent them. Among these liberal ideas are civil liberty, political equality, and economic freedom and opportunity.
At the root, perhaps, is a populist belief in the basic goodness, perfectibility, and nobility of mankind and the human community.
BjL: I simply do not buy or agree with their seemingly objective, however quite positive self-assessment in paragraph two.
It is my experience the open source community tends to have an entirely antithetical epistemological structure to the to the structure expressed by ADTI.
It also seems to me as though the open source community does more to advance the 'human community' through their nearly postmodern approach to technology than ADTI does through stoically expressing their 'liberal' views as fact.
That's a staggering stastic, 15% isn't a majority but it's still 1 in 6. I start to wonder when something terribly negative (such as addiction) is higher than.5% on any given demographic.
Napster should broaden its horizions out of the PC community and into the Macintosh community. Macintosh users are avid music buyers as evidenced by Apple building and sustaining a service business out of its own user base and then expanding. Napster does not have any such consumer loyalities and other attempts at their business model have either failed outright or topped off shortly after debut.
People don't always vote down the party lines. How do they derive "expected" results? I mean really... this has "you are a number" written all over this.
The gas companies saying the gas prices are so high because people have automobiles. Or the odd relationship that spammers, anti-virus, and virus/worm software writers all share.
Does Ballmer have some numbers to stand on here? Or is he simply saying things "just to be right". Hardware costs money to develop and fabricate, so does Software. While I would like to see hardware prices be lower, I would also like to see a lower housing costs and taxes.
This also seems like yet another moment of arrogant and indictive gabble by Ballmer. I think that the PR people should advise him to stop before he starts burning bridges.
Apple will continue to be a viable company for personal computing much like VW is a viable option to Ford, Chrysler, and GM.
Microsoft keyboards and mice do not count because they are peripherals, not computing devices. Steve Ballmer is talking about a complete system that can be used in the living room, such as the X-Box or WebTV. Both of which have been financial failures regardless of market penetration. Apple is the only computer company to build an entire platform that could easily move into that market.
To say that Apple stores are "fluff" sounds suspiciously like the old "they don't sell hardware so I can build my own box" mentality. Personally that for personal computers this mentality is a bit outdated with where the market is today.
People who have these views will probably continue to happily purchase Apple products.
It sounds like you're not getting what the market opportunity is.
The question here is "who cares"? Microsoft has not produced a successful home electronics product, with possibly the exception of the X-Box. The numbers you ramble off are collective consumer, business and enterprise market sales for both products and services. Apple on the other hand is focused almost entirely on consumer sales.
As such they have a better consumer product line and in my experience happier customers overall. Have you been to an Apple store? They tend to have a brisk amount of business for a "niche" market. I just think it is a bit presumptuous of Ballmer to call a fight even before his company gets into the ring.
Hiding in plain sight as in Linux may be a good tactic. He should be more concerned of the rather large possibility of being sabotaged in silicon rather than in software.
If someone is looking for a personal experience it's more common to ask your friends or a group of peers. Slashdot teems with a community and subculture all its own, so his question is valid. Not everyone always wants a strict "just the facts" answer.
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Linux has a history of two separate options that do basically the same thing. There is no 'one' Linux company, nor is there a single user interface, or what about the VM in 2.4? Does it actually matter that Oracle is loosing its patience? And why should Oracle really care anyway? They are an application provider, yes I know it's a database ... big deal. The whole idea of virtualization is that the application doesn't need to care whether it is running on real hardware or virtual hardware. I don't see Oracle working with Microsoft or MySQL AB to develop a single SQL interface.
In my experience, the 'achievement and goals' mentality seem to stem from a corporate-culture, while open source projects generally have a vision but the vision can change over time and the 'goals' change with the community. In general what I've noticed is that projects that concern themselves with the community rather than the goals tend to stay afloat longer than those that have a directive. If opendarwin became a place where osx-focused oss projects were housed / referenced, then why call that a failure? Perhaps it wasn't what the creators of the project had in mind initially, but it seems pretty unfortunate to loose this resource in the community.
I can actually see that as a serious comment being that Bono is so dedicated to feeding the poor, orphaned, and widows.
I think the slashdot monkey poo has killed the server
Lewis Carroll said it best...
`I don't understand you,' said Alice. `It's dreadfully confusing!'
`That's the effect of living backwards,' the Queen said kindly: `it always makes one a little giddy at first --'
`Living backwards!' Alice repeated in great astonishment. `I never heard of such a thing!'
`-- but there's one great advantage in it, that one's memory works both ways.'
`I'm sure mine only works one way,' Alice remarked. `I can't remember things before they happen.'
`It's a poor sort of memory that only works backwards,' the Queen remarked.
-Through The Looking Glass, Chapter 5
Well darn... I guess we need a moon base for that new deep space radio telescope
So who wants to hack this into the Mac Mini mezzanine slot?
Aside from blaring user error (i.e. any command using -R) it is my opinion that the computer is already compromised if you are using have the system console. Gaining root or hardware access is fairly simple and things such as encrypted filesystems are obviously out of the Linspire's scope. While I believe it would have been "better" had they used a sudo-like implementation (e.g. ksudo / MacOSX) I can understand why a business would take the root approach.
That seems excessively irrational.
When liberals and conservatives agree that tends to be an indicator of the gravity of the issue. The gravity here is deep concern over our children and social health. My opinion is that it's not funny anymore, and it never was.
Something I noticed from http://www.adti.net/background/mission.html
Paragraph 1:
ADTI: Since 1988, the Alexis de' Tocqueville Institution has studied the spread of perfection of democracy around the world.
BjL: Most open source pundits do not believe that perfection is something to be attained through democracy.
ADTI: In this, we follow the principles of Tocqueville himself, while claiming no unique mandate to represent them. Among these liberal ideas are civil liberty, political equality, and economic freedom and opportunity.
At the root, perhaps, is a populist belief in the basic goodness, perfectibility, and nobility of mankind and the human community.
BjL: I simply do not buy or agree with their seemingly objective, however quite positive self-assessment in paragraph two.
It is my experience the open source community tends to have an entirely antithetical epistemological structure to the to the structure expressed by ADTI.
It also seems to me as though the open source community does more to advance the 'human community' through their nearly postmodern approach to technology than ADTI does through stoically expressing their 'liberal' views as fact.
That's a staggering stastic, 15% isn't a majority but it's still 1 in 6. I start to wonder when something terribly negative (such as addiction) is higher than .5% on any given demographic.
As Napoleon would say "Sweet!"
Napster should broaden its horizions out of the PC community and into the Macintosh community. Macintosh users are avid music buyers as evidenced by Apple building and sustaining a service business out of its own user base and then expanding. Napster does not have any such consumer loyalities and other attempts at their business model have either failed outright or topped off shortly after debut.
People don't always vote down the party lines. How do they derive "expected" results? I mean really... this has "you are a number" written all over this.
Just what I was dreaming of, spyware for my mac :-D
Why isn't the department of homeland security questioning this instead of the stupid rubik's cube thing?
The gas companies saying the gas prices are so high because people have automobiles. Or the odd relationship that spammers, anti-virus, and virus/worm software writers all share.
Does Ballmer have some numbers to stand on here? Or is he simply saying things "just to be right". Hardware costs money to develop and fabricate, so does Software. While I would like to see hardware prices be lower, I would also like to see a lower housing costs and taxes.
This also seems like yet another moment of arrogant and indictive gabble by Ballmer. I think that the PR people should advise him to stop before he starts burning bridges.
But that's just me
Apple will continue to be a viable company for personal computing much like VW is a viable option to Ford, Chrysler, and GM.
Microsoft keyboards and mice do not count because they are peripherals, not computing devices. Steve Ballmer is talking about a complete system that can be used in the living room, such as the X-Box or WebTV. Both of which have been financial failures regardless of market penetration. Apple is the only computer company to build an entire platform that could easily move into that market.
To say that Apple stores are "fluff" sounds suspiciously like the old "they don't sell hardware so I can build my own box" mentality. Personally that for personal computers this mentality is a bit outdated with where the market is today.
People who have these views will probably continue to happily purchase Apple products.
It sounds like you're not getting what the market opportunity is.
That's nice...
The question here is "who cares"? Microsoft has not produced a successful home electronics product, with possibly the exception of the X-Box. The numbers you ramble off are collective consumer, business and enterprise market sales for both products and services. Apple on the other hand is focused almost entirely on consumer sales.
As such they have a better consumer product line and in my experience happier customers overall. Have you been to an Apple store? They tend to have a brisk amount of business for a "niche" market. I just think it is a bit presumptuous of Ballmer to call a fight even before his company gets into the ring.
Apple is trading higher than Microsoft, and Microsoft stores are not showing up anywhere.
Hiding in plain sight as in Linux may be a good tactic. He should be more concerned of the rather large possibility of being sabotaged in silicon rather than in software.
when will it sucking ?
If someone is looking for a personal experience it's more common to ask your friends or a group of peers. Slashdot teems with a community and subculture all its own, so his question is valid. Not everyone always wants a strict "just the facts" answer.
This is freaking stupid, write your congressmen.
Seriously