Yeah, let's compare qualifications. You're a regular Slashdot reader posting flamebait/troll comments to a news item. You insult me, probably because you don't like yourself, or maybe just because you have nothing better to do. Yes, I am doing something useful, yes I left highschool to pursue xMach, Perl, C, Compiler Design, Device Drivers, and happiness. I love my job, and I write pretty decent code. If you want to talk about 'qualified programming' (probably the worst phrase I've heard ever, I think you need to be informed about 'qualified writing' or 'qualified english-use') let's talk about the people who originally ported Unix to C; At the time they didn't even have real guidlines for C, according to history. What kind of qualifications would you like? A highschool diploma? I could have passed the GED when I was in 6th grade; I know, I took practice versions, etc. So once I get my GED I'll be a 'qualified programmer'? If you say I have to be a CS graduate, I'll point out that research for almost all of the code that is the basis for xMach was written by undergrads at universities. So I have to be in college first? Sorry, maybe if you give me the money, and do all my classwork, and I get to keep all the knowledge at no cost. Otherwise I'll stick to reading college textbooks, doing real-world research and development, and writing code for xMach as I hereby officially qualify myself to do. --
That is indeed what we're doing. I never had the luxury of using the original BSD Lites when it was new, but we're working onward, which arguably is better:) A rumor I've heard is that JVH (read: That guy who wrote BSD Lites) had intended to make Lites a multiserver as we have proposed, but that Microsoft Research got the best of him =) So hopefully, we can make him happy. --
To be honest, source code is easier to grasp than teaching materials. However, 4.4BSD D&I is an excellent book. But I've never really read a book on C or Unix programming, other than straight os-devel stuff. I plan to buy a few more books in the next weeks, though =) --
Thanks =) But I'm hardly uneducated. What I neglect to mention is why I dropped out... You can only miss so many days for reading Perl books, going to cons, debugging code, writing an OS, etc., before you have to decide that there's one direction to go, and that you have to choose. I chose what was best for me. --
You forgot Minix vs. Linux. This kind of _evolution_ is VERY productive. No, I will not write for HURD. Why? Because it's completely different ideas, a completely different goal, etc. And also, I don't necessarily feel very pro-GNU 99% of the time. In fact, most of the time, I don't like the GNU project very much. By the way: HURD didn't have to exist either. rtmach was doing basically what xMach is intended to do, before HURD. In fact, if Bushnell et al. had just contributed to Mach4 @ Utah, or Lites from jvh, we'd just have Mach4 + Lites. Or better still, Mach MK83a + UX, and lots of encumbered code. Yeah, diversity is bad. Let's kill _every_ Linux distribution too. It's not like they could have individual markets, users, ideals, goals, etc., If it's similar, it should be consolidated. We should have 'World Auto' instead of 'Ford, Toyota, Honda' etc. Maybe if I had called it 'GNU/xMach' you wouldn't have minded so much? --
SGI's daftness is beginning to be offensive. Linux fails pimping pixels on IA32 to WindowsNT, where Linux would claim to be a better OS. Now we have a 64bit proc and a 64bit OS, written by the Linux people, and we have Win2k for 64 bit procs. I'm betting Win2k will pimp pixels faster. SGI will always fail on a platform that is not IRIX, and is not proprietary, because you can get anything other than both of those for less. --
Back in the day, when I was an AOL Kiddie, I wrote a poller prog, and it would display the results at specified intervals. I no longer have a copy of that, but it must have been like 1996 or 1995. Whee. This is too broad not to be covered by 100s of things. Hell, with as much as you can stretch a patent, I want the IRCD authors to claim this one, cause the number of people in a channel is displayed in a/list which each person effectively casting a vote for a channel. And the winner is... Istanbul OR Zurna =P --
for(1..6) 30*6
for(7..7) 30*8
24 hours so far, not counting smeg outs, smeg offs, and so forth. I've done 32 hours of RD straight before. Yes I know I'm insane.
I meant showing the full series, i.e. one every tuesday and thursday for a while. --
It's cold outside there's no kind of atmosphere i'm all alone more or less let me fly far away from here fun fun fun in the sun sun sun
i want to lie shipwrecked and comatose drinking fresh mango juice goldfish shoals nibbling at my toes fun fun fun in the sun sun sun fun fun fun in the sun sun sun --
No fucking shit? *drools* Ok I'm rushing out and buying myself a -brand new- tv decorder card for yule and i'm making MPGs finally!:) (my vid collection is shot to hell:( ) --
Ooh damn... can always count on SciFi chan to carry great Miniseries... if only they'd carry better full-lengths like Red Dwarf, I'd be a happy little coder. --
I'd rather field this in the alt.os.xmach newsgroup, if you don't mind posting _every question you can think of_ there. I mean it - I'd like you to come up with like 20 questions - you're obviously thinking about it - I want to hear everything you can think of, and I'll answer any and all questions, and I'll add to our FAQ - sound good? Thanks in advance, jmallett. --
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I'm running IRIX on the box next to me, I scrapped some old Apollos which ran HPUX last summer, I am selling some of my old Sun boxes... Once you get your hands into the different Unices, and then you see linux, you kinda say "bleh what the fuck is this piece-of-shit offering?". I absolutely LOVE the "and of OS X blows goats" comments - way to go Taco. Do you give head to ESR on weekends? Cause I can see you want to be just like him - Linus' Minister of Propoganda. And don't romanticise it. ESR/RMS/all of the single-minded GNU/Linux/FSF dicks out there need to open their eyes. And no, HURD is NOT the answer. HURD is, NOT UNIX, by definition. What _is_ the answer? Well I have a few acronyms I throw around:
1: LINTOO - Linux Is Not/Never The Only Option/OS
2: TOSTT - The OS Suits The Task
I run Linux, yeah. When I need the ability to run absolute shit. Actually, most of you people who say "BUT LINUX SUPPORTS MY -1DAY USB JUAREZ" need to get a handle on reality. The reality of GNU? It should be (these days) a paraphrase of the Perl motto:
AWYCDISLAWCSWSI - Any Way You Can Do It So Long As We Can Say We Support It
Is my personal baby (xMach) the answer? For some tasks, maybe? It's based on straight 4.4BSD-Lite. It's portable and open like real unix... It's designed with *gasp* low resource utilisation and *louder gasp* small disk footprint in mind. Now I know you Linux users just took a fucking shit seeing those phrases, so let me elaborate: An OS should not be using 1/2 of the system's resources to make a fucking pretty web browser window for you to jerk off to porn in. An OS should _not_ _ever_ come bundled with _UTTER CRAP_ like every KDE application ever written ( the AWYCDISLAWCSWSI syndrome again ). The base install of an OS does not need to have emacs. It needs vi. And ed. And that's it as far as editors. The base install of an os should consists of things that you NEED. I actually think this includes a C compiler, and Perl at the limits. Why? Some system config scripts may be in perl, and any self-respecting admin is gonna recompile the kernel, or at least need to install some things from source. And you know what else sucks? Having a "Web Server" install option that includes everything related (even vaguely) to the HTTP protocol. I want to prompt the user to install "Apache, mod_perl, and mSQL" seperately, not as one big lump.
Some day someone's gonna get it right. And it might just be me.
And I know I'm about to get modded down for Troll. So fuck everyone and everything, while i'm at it.
As always I keep it real, I speak my mind, and I speak the truth. I'm not gonna be a dick like Linus Torvalds and be fluffy about everything. --
Why should these companies care anyway? They'll just translate their name to something which pronounced sounds like their name in their native language, and it'll mean "Your sisters makes money being a whore of donkeys and spends her life between walls and sailors" or something.
If the companies are international, they can use.net or.com or.(Country Code). Or even.biz or something.
If they are a Chinese company, with a Chinese name, then they won't be locked out.
Oh because Transmeta is so ereet, I mean Linus worked there and he's k-r4d 313370. So I want one so I can use my Red Hat UNIX with it, then I can be cool. --
We all know the ARMY will be rewmoving Linux and installing xMach because well... xMach is cool... it boots on some systems... err it supports Linux 2.4 devices... uhh... well.... it's not Linux! --
I think this constitutes bad taste, almost. Unless you think all/.ers like/use Linux. I personally think that part of my idea was people who are generally 'techies' but still to get a diverse arragement of individuals, thus the beauty (downfall/bad image) of/., which is the diversity of opinions, interests, viewpoints, and ideas. --
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Yeah, let's compare qualifications. You're a regular Slashdot reader posting flamebait/troll comments to a news item. You insult me, probably because you don't like yourself, or maybe just because you have nothing better to do. Yes, I am doing something useful, yes I left highschool to pursue xMach, Perl, C, Compiler Design, Device Drivers, and happiness. I love my job, and I write pretty decent code. If you want to talk about 'qualified programming' (probably the worst phrase I've heard ever, I think you need to be informed about 'qualified writing' or 'qualified english-use') let's talk about the people who originally ported Unix to C; At the time they didn't even have real guidlines for C, according to history. What kind of qualifications would you like? A highschool diploma? I could have passed the GED when I was in 6th grade; I know, I took practice versions, etc. So once I get my GED I'll be a 'qualified programmer'? If you say I have to be a CS graduate, I'll point out that research for almost all of the code that is the basis for xMach was written by undergrads at universities. So I have to be in college first? Sorry, maybe if you give me the money, and do all my classwork, and I get to keep all the knowledge at no cost. Otherwise I'll stick to reading college textbooks, doing real-world research and development, and writing code for xMach as I hereby officially qualify myself to do.
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That is indeed what we're doing. I never had the luxury of using the original BSD Lites when it was new, but we're working onward, which arguably is better :) A rumor I've heard is that JVH (read: That guy who wrote BSD Lites) had intended to make Lites a multiserver as we have proposed, but that Microsoft Research got the best of him =) So hopefully, we can make him happy.
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To be honest, source code is easier to grasp than teaching materials. However, 4.4BSD D&I is an excellent book. But I've never really read a book on C or Unix programming, other than straight os-devel stuff. I plan to buy a few more books in the next weeks, though =)
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Thanks =) But I'm hardly uneducated. What I neglect to mention is why I dropped out... You can only miss so many days for reading Perl books, going to cons, debugging code, writing an OS, etc., before you have to decide that there's one direction to go, and that you have to choose. I chose what was best for me.
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You forgot Minix vs. Linux. This kind of _evolution_ is VERY productive. No, I will not write for HURD. Why? Because it's completely different ideas, a completely different goal, etc. And also, I don't necessarily feel very pro-GNU 99% of the time. In fact, most of the time, I don't like the GNU project very much. By the way: HURD didn't have to exist either. rtmach was doing basically what xMach is intended to do, before HURD. In fact, if Bushnell et al. had just contributed to Mach4 @ Utah, or Lites from jvh, we'd just have Mach4 + Lites. Or better still, Mach MK83a + UX, and lots of encumbered code. Yeah, diversity is bad. Let's kill _every_ Linux distribution too. It's not like they could have individual markets, users, ideals, goals, etc., If it's similar, it should be consolidated. We should have 'World Auto' instead of 'Ford, Toyota, Honda' etc. Maybe if I had called it 'GNU/xMach' you wouldn't have minded so much?
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SGI's daftness is beginning to be offensive. Linux fails pimping pixels on IA32 to WindowsNT, where Linux would claim to be a better OS. Now we have a 64bit proc and a 64bit OS, written by the Linux people, and we have Win2k for 64 bit procs. I'm betting Win2k will pimp pixels faster. SGI will always fail on a platform that is not IRIX, and is not proprietary, because you can get anything other than both of those for less.
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Back in the day, when I was an AOL Kiddie, I wrote a poller prog, and it would display the results at specified intervals. I no longer have a copy of that, but it must have been like 1996 or 1995. Whee. This is too broad not to be covered by 100s of things. Hell, with as much as you can stretch a patent, I want the IRCD authors to claim this one, cause the number of people in a channel is displayed in a /list which each person effectively casting a vote for a channel. And the winner is... Istanbul OR Zurna =P
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But it's GOOD to make everyone in your conutry sure they can't trust you... That's why the government is so sneaky.
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7..8
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for(1..6) 30*6
for(7..7) 30*8
24 hours so far, not counting smeg outs, smeg offs, and so forth. I've done 32 hours of RD straight before. Yes I know I'm insane.
I meant showing the full series, i.e. one every tuesday and thursday for a while.
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It's cold outside there's no kind of atmosphere i'm all alone more or less let me fly far away from here fun fun fun in the sun sun sun
i want to lie shipwrecked and comatose drinking fresh mango juice goldfish shoals nibbling at my toes fun fun fun in the sun sun sun fun fun fun in the sun sun sun
--
No fucking shit? *drools* Ok I'm rushing out and buying myself a -brand new- tv decorder card for yule and i'm making MPGs finally! :) (my vid collection is shot to hell :( )
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Ooh damn... can always count on SciFi chan to carry great Miniseries... if only they'd carry better full-lengths like Red Dwarf, I'd be a happy little coder.
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I'd rather field this in the alt.os.xmach newsgroup, if you don't mind posting _every question you can think of_ there. I mean it - I'd like you to come up with like 20 questions - you're obviously thinking about it - I want to hear everything you can think of, and I'll answer any and all questions, and I'll add to our FAQ - sound good? Thanks in advance, jmallett.
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hrm? email jmallett@cotse.com - I'd like to have a word with you.
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I'm running IRIX on the box next to me, I scrapped some old Apollos which ran HPUX last summer, I am selling some of my old Sun boxes... Once you get your hands into the different Unices, and then you see linux, you kinda say "bleh what the fuck is this piece-of-shit offering?". I absolutely LOVE the "and of OS X blows goats" comments - way to go Taco. Do you give head to ESR on weekends? Cause I can see you want to be just like him - Linus' Minister of Propoganda. And don't romanticise it. ESR/RMS/all of the single-minded GNU/Linux/FSF dicks out there need to open their eyes. And no, HURD is NOT the answer. HURD is, NOT UNIX, by definition. What _is_ the answer? Well I have a few acronyms I throw around:
1: LINTOO - Linux Is Not/Never The Only Option/OS
2: TOSTT - The OS Suits The Task
I run Linux, yeah. When I need the ability to run absolute shit. Actually, most of you people who say "BUT LINUX SUPPORTS MY -1DAY USB JUAREZ" need to get a handle on reality. The reality of GNU? It should be (these days) a paraphrase of the Perl motto:
AWYCDISLAWCSWSI - Any Way You Can Do It So Long As We Can Say We Support It
Is my personal baby (xMach) the answer? For some tasks, maybe? It's based on straight 4.4BSD-Lite. It's portable and open like real unix... It's designed with *gasp* low resource utilisation and *louder gasp* small disk footprint in mind. Now I know you Linux users just took a fucking shit seeing those phrases, so let me elaborate: An OS should not be using 1/2 of the system's resources to make a fucking pretty web browser window for you to jerk off to porn in. An OS should _not_ _ever_ come bundled with _UTTER CRAP_ like every KDE application ever written ( the AWYCDISLAWCSWSI syndrome again ). The base install of an OS does not need to have emacs. It needs vi. And ed. And that's it as far as editors. The base install of an os should consists of things that you NEED. I actually think this includes a C compiler, and Perl at the limits. Why? Some system config scripts may be in perl, and any self-respecting admin is gonna recompile the kernel, or at least need to install some things from source. And you know what else sucks? Having a "Web Server" install option that includes everything related (even vaguely) to the HTTP protocol. I want to prompt the user to install "Apache, mod_perl, and mSQL" seperately, not as one big lump.
Some day someone's gonna get it right. And it might just be me.
And I know I'm about to get modded down for Troll. So fuck everyone and everything, while i'm at it.
As always I keep it real, I speak my mind, and I speak the truth. I'm not gonna be a dick like Linus Torvalds and be fluffy about everything.
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That's a Chinese company with a Chinese name? Would have sworn by it being an English phrase in English... Damn my brain must be broken again.
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I said IIRC - sorry - my bad memory :) But at least I wasn't making bad .ch jokes ;p
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By the way - all you smartass Slashdotters who just love to say something because you can without thinking about it:
.xh = China
.ch = Suisse
iirc
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Why should these companies care anyway? They'll just translate their name to something which pronounced sounds like their name in their native language, and it'll mean "Your sisters makes money being a whore of donkeys and spends her life between walls and sailors" or something.
.net or .com or .(Country Code). Or even .biz or something.
.02$, but not refundable.
If the companies are international, they can use
If they are a Chinese company, with a Chinese name, then they won't be locked out.
That simple.
My
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Oh because Transmeta is so ereet, I mean Linus worked there and he's k-r4d 313370. So I want one so I can use my Red Hat UNIX with it, then I can be cool.
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We all know the ARMY will be rewmoving Linux and installing xMach because well... xMach is cool... it boots on some systems... err it supports Linux 2.4 devices... uhh... well.... it's not Linux!
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dd if=/tmp/.tricks/poison of=/dev/enemy bs=1 count=`cat /proc/enemy/population`
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Like with Linux, anything Linux is associated with takes forever to deliver. *yawn* If I were a large corporation I might care.
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I think this constitutes bad taste, almost. Unless you think all /.ers like/use Linux. I personally think that part of my idea was people who are generally 'techies' but still to get a diverse arragement of individuals, thus the beauty (downfall/bad image) of /., which is the diversity of opinions, interests, viewpoints, and ideas.
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