China Snubs Verisign In Domain Tussle
cswiii writes: "According to C/NET, Beijing has blocked international corporations from registering Chinese-character domain names.... including, of course, Verisign's NSI division. What will be the outcome of this one?"
3dwm! I can see the ads now, "is your OS stuck in 2 dimensions?".
But of course it's not just about business control (although the Chinese government is always looking for ways to make a profit). It's about political control, too.
Regular censorware just lets you block certain domains for people who use your censorware. But if the Chinese government has control over chinese-language domain-name registration, then everyone in China and Taiwan (and Chinese-speakers in other countries) will be censored very effectively by the Chinese government. Do you really think they're going to let anyone register the Chinese equivalent of FreeTibet.cn? Once the system is in place, the Chinese government can block all access to the latin-character part of the name space, which it doesn't control. At least people in Taiwan will still be able to access latin-character domains.
It seems to me that the right response is to let the Chinese run their own DNS (I don't think it's technically possible to stop them), while letting VeriSign run a Chinese-character DNS for the rest of the world, which doesn't want Chinese-government censorship.
It has nothing to do with U.S. imperialism. It has to do with letting one country's censors get their hands on the whole world's internet.
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It is not beyond plausibility that the Chinese govenrment could be considered to have copyright to the "simplified" character set which they invented in Mao's time.
China, fortunately, was the most likely candidate to do this, and I'm really glad they did.
.com, .net, and .org TLDs. Face it, NSI is a money-grubbing behemoth that cares woefully little about standards, or what the internet is all about - they have reached the inevitable end of their rope with domain registrations, what with added competition of hundreds of registrars, and having pissed off enough people (me included) for us to seek alternate registrars for those domains we had registered with them. What does that mean: less revenues for them, and like any company, they desperately need additional avenues of cashflow.
.com addresses - and since NSI is trying to have the monopoly on this (under the guise of an 'experiment'), they are looking to be the nly ones making $$$ off it.
Why?
VeriSign/NSI *ONLY* hatched this plan of 'allowing' foreign characters, in order for hem to make more profit, and thus add 40,000 new characters to the
Enter non-roman character sets.
Instead of having just 26 characters (and numbers), there's 40,000+ available characters that can be tacked on to
Regardless of their high-falootin' PR words of 'expanding horizons of technology' and such crap, this is just about more money for them - and absolutely NOTHING else.
The only domains that might, if anything, need local character support, or those local TLDs of the specific countries.
As such, it was just a matter of time until some country would have taken those steps, and now that China has, it is only a matter of time until Korea, and possibly even Japan will take similar steps (and there's more countries waiting in the wings) - the final result: Total fragmentation of the homogenous space that *used* to be the internet.
Personally, I hope that this will be enough to terminate this 'experiment' (which is what it is being biled as), and therefore the world can return to a simple use of the roman character set as the defacto lingua franca for the internet.
And I hope that sooner or later those fuckers from Network Solutions burn in whatever hell they believe in...
Harry
VeriSign is way off-based supporting the registration of non-latin second-level domains under a latin TLD. It is definitely necessary that the Internet move to a Unicode-based DNS and registration system. But VeriSign is approaching the problem in the worst way possible.
China, on the other hand, is playing its tired control game.
Sure, China has been kicked around a lot by foreigners. Actually the Japanese were the worst, followed closely by the British, Germans, and Portugese, with the U.S. running a distant last. This move by the PRC government fits in nicely with their history of furthering their own goals by exploiting nationalism (a history which started before they were even a government, when the communist slogan was "resist Japan.")
What does the average Chinese person think about the internet and computers? I guess we'll never know, because opinion polls aren't allowed. The biggest demographic group in China is peasants. If they think about computers at all, I'd guess it's along the lines of "Hmm...I wonder how much it would cost me for bus and train fares to get to the nearest town that has a computer with an internet connection."
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Oh, really? I guess I'll try to register the chinese-character equivalent of RememberTianAnMen.cn. Think I'll have any luck?
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I would like to note that the article you are pointing to is from a BeOS-related parody site, called BeDope. Be *did not* sue Ebay in real life.
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Filtering foreign non Chinese caracter domains(mostly english content and some chinese content) is easy and probably goes unnoticed by most citizens, filtering all foreign Chinese caracter domains(and their Chinese caracter content) would probably not look good and be seen as censorship of the outside world.
If the Chinese goverment controls all Chinese caracter Dns on the internet it will not seem like censoring, the unapproved sites simply won't exist. But they would need foreign goverment cooperation to do this, and some clever spin doctors to justify it.I don't think this is possible.(and I have no idea what sites are being let through at the moment?)
Hey, you're right -- and it probably accomplishes the other two goals, nominal ethnocentrism, some kind of information "control" AND they get to make some hard currency in the process. I forget how good the Chinese can be at making money.
From what I'm reading, a LOT or /.ers are making plenty of assumptions about the reasoning behind China's move. One question: Do any of you even know someone who's Chinese? Have any of you even bothered to study their history? All I keep hearing are stereotypes and misinformation being strewn about that reminds me of all the conspiracy fluff you'd find on the 'Net. For all we know, their reasoning might possibly to avoid the potention problems with cybersquating and international politics (don't think the chinese equivalent of www.georgebushsucksbigcock.cn would go well with G. W.).
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Which registrar gets to register Chinese domain names, no matter how they're encoded, will depend on how they get hooked into the DNS. I mean, are both the NIS and Chinese national registries going to be recognized by the TLD servers? Will China mount its own TLD servers pointing to their native registry?
Okay, from the posts I've read so far the basic assumptions that have been made (the article implies them, but doesn't come right out and say so) are that:
.com/.org/.net domains, but I think China would be able to enforce it without resorting to any international lawsuits or anything like that, even if they only did things on a (national) legal level versus an international one. It might be a little bit heavy handed, but I think it's livable, not really too much to ask. I'd rather see them in charge of it than NSI, anyhow.
a) China is not allowing people to register Chinese character domain names. This is not true. They are not allowing foreign companies to act as registrars. This put things in a whole new light.
b) China has banned all use of Chinese characters in domain names. This is somewhat true, but I don't think that they're going to go about enforcing it with any litigation type deals. Think about it. Since (of course) the majority of Chinese character using individuals reside within their borders, all they have to do is make everyone use their DNS servers. And as far as international (or national) corporations go, they could just fine heavily whoever registers with Verisign instead of any of the nine other registrars. With that backing them, they should be able to easily get the majority of Chinese character domains registered with them. And once they have that info, nobody will want to bother with the smaller "alternative" registrar, Verisign. They will be to CNNIC what AlterNIC was to the rest of the Internet.
With that in mind, I'd like to just say that I support China in this as long as they don't stop people outside of China from registering, they should be fine. Technical issues might bear looking into, since presumably these are all
yes, I admit that evevyone on internet have some rights ,but you shall use it in a correct way.
What happens now is men are all crazying in registering ,so the chinese goverment shoul stand out for the responsability.
Is that wrong???
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The Chinese did something really smart here: They said that there's going to be a Chinese Internet, that's not managed by a spinoff of the US government.
Consider: both NSI (from policy/tech folk in the beltway core) and VeriSign (via RSA Inc -- think NSA) were founded by folk who left rather significant government bureaucracies knowing that they'd have a nice safe (and who knows, maybe lucrative) technical career ahead of them. But they never dropped all those government ties. ICANN was also shrouded in mystery at its birth, though one likes to think of that as bumbling rather than conspiracy. (Postel's death was unexpected, though...) For a long time, it's essentially been in the business of supporting NetSolutions.
Point being: there's not enough of a clear distinction between the US government and the Internet government.
And China is the first nation to have the balls (and opportunity, and technical need -- related to character set :-)
to say "fuck off" to the US Internet regime.
This is good for anyone
who really believes in plurality. Such as
preserving languages and
cultures in the face of the Western
onslaught.
In the West, we don't have the moral right to redefine other cultures in the way that "money is the only value" capitalism is attempting everywhere on the globe. Sadly, the only way to prevent multinational corporations from doing whatever they want is to erect significant countervailing forces. The US government has not been very successful as a counterforce, though maybe it's prevented some abuses.
Frankly, I hope a lot more countries start to develop strong lines between the US-biased institutions we have now, and institutions that reflect their own values and goals.
You are right, China is spying on the USA. I think we should be doing more to prevent it. I don't think the USA is above it. In fact, I think the USA should be doing more of it, particularly against China. I can put myself in someone elses shoes. If I were Chinese I would be applauding the Gov's efforts to end US bullying--though I most definitly wouldn't applaud their oppressive domestic policy. Just because they may have similar books in China doesn't make the point made in this one any less valid. The book may be propaganda, but it isn't untruthful; China is rapidly increasing their nuclear arsenal, and they are doing so mostly through information stolen from the USA. It's great that we spy on China. What is not great is the way the Clinton camp downplays the significance Chinese spying.
Have you ever tried pronouncing a domain name in Japanese? Since there are multiple ways to spell the same Japanese word in Roman characters (depending on the romanization system you use), you generally have to spell them out character by character. And Roman characters are hard to pronounce in Japanese; I've heard commercials where they take 5-10 seconds just to say the domain name of a website.
Now, I don't know the exact reason support for CJK domain names was thought up, but I can tell you there's quite a bit of interest in Japan (at least) about it. So don't go putting it down just because you don't find it useful.
A nitpick: China is .cn, Switzerland is .ch.
Nothing against China/Chinese govt, but not
sure what they are smoking. Actually, can
someone maybe clarify (besides the control/
censorship/whatever hysteria) what the motives
behind this are? Remember that Ministries,
govts, orgs, are made of indivs, and as in
corps, this may just be silliness on part of
one man/woman.
What you have seen was an "access denied" message.
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We should have seen this coming. Afterall, it is just a variation of control tactics used by the other evil empire.;)
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There are literally tens of thousands of Kanji (you need to know 5000+ to read a newspaper), and these were taken from chinese ages ago. The characters are basically the same, but meanings can differ slightly between Chinese/Japanese.
I'm confused by your use of 'character set'. If you mean methods to represent a character in a computer, kanji is not a charater set, and Japanese also has a few.
And if you mean set of characters in a language, then chinese only has one, while Japanese has 3: hiragana and katakana(which only have ~50 characters)- and Kanji, which is shared with Chinese.
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once while working at as a technician for CrapUSA(compusa) I had an Asian customer bring a laptop in for repair. He was having problems connecting to the internet and we had a hell of a time fixing it because the whole operating system (windows 98) and even his keyboard were Chinese/Japanese Charactors(not sure which). So it is possible to type in these charactors.
For more information, read Installing Japanese support in Linux or if you're using windows download the IME from windows update.
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Hanzi in Mandarin Chinese, Hanja in Korean. All basically the same thing, though they have evolved apart quite a bit over the centuries.
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you do realize that .ch is switzerland, and not china, right?
Now, Verisign should somehow block all domain name requests (from their root servers) to mainland china.
That would change that shit real quick.
Seriously, it is long past time that countries stopped playing softball with the oriental countries that want to play hardball (japan and china, primarily).
They constantly dictate rules to us, set ridiculus trade embargoes, and generally push us around.
I am not saying that isnt a good idea on their part (it is), I am simply saying that the universal response of 'respect their wishes' is how we for the tenth year running have ended up in a trade deficit to Japan, when we dont have one to almost ANY other technologically advanced country.
Its nuts.
All I am saying is, if China wants to play hardball with Verisign, Verisign should play hardball right back.
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I neither know nor care, why Chinese government is doing this, but the whole idea of Unicode in DNS is stupid, counterproductive and serves no purpose other than more money for somain registrars and software manufacturers that will all issue "compulsory" upgrade versions of their software to support it.
Oh, BTW, I am Russian, and the last thing I need is Russian in domain names, especially on computers that have no russian keyboard.
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Apparently Be Inc., maker of BeOS and BeIA, sued eBay for the ebay.com domain.
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Here's something I was wondering...
Chinese character (or whatever) URLs would actually be sent over the line in unicode or something, correct? Then would there possibly be a way for a user without the proper language character set support to type in (or link to) the raw unicode version?
Its definetely not impossible to ban. All ISP's in China are hooked up to something dubbed, "The Great Firewall of China." They may not be able to ban the domain nationally, but if they do not want people to see it in China, stopping unwanted domains is not difficult. They already ban sites like cnn.com and nytimes.com.
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Why care? Well, when you can open your business up to 1.4 billion new people regurally, i'd say thats a good business strategy.
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If some country or organization does something really stupid and causes revenues and valuations to fall tens to hundreds of billion dollars, then they'll know. They'll mostly be committing suicide.
Chinese shares a lot of characters (Hanzi in mandarin) with a lot of countries. Not just Japan.
Korea also uses the Chinese characters, and so does Vietnam (although not very much at all nowadays). Some other sino-indian countries use Chinese characters to a limited extent as well.
Then of course you have other countries that not only use Chinese characters, but also have a very large percentage of Chinese people: Singapore, Taiwan (had to put it in somewhere..), Indonesia, and many more. Chinese people and the Chinese language are everywhere.
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Is it really ethnocentrism or is it just Commie information control paranoia?
I can appreciate that "the Chinese" (since the nation-state doesn't completely overlap with the Chinese ethnic diaspora) would rather not have to pay up to roundeyes to register Chinese domain names. There's probably a distinct fear, especially in the realm of high-tech that China will be to the U.S. what India was to the British in the 19th century -- a place to extract labor from. So a certain amount of ethnic pride dictates that they have some influence over these registrations.
But their desire for total control also sounds a little bit like the "bad" China that wants to control information, limit freedom, and generally be a totalitarian Communist country like the bad old days.
So which is it? Legitimate ethnic interest or nasty Commies?
Would a ban on the Umlaut cover the diaresis too?
"Reactionaries must be deprived of the right to voice their opinions; only the people have that right." - Mao
Heck, An American company (by which I mean a company chartered in the US) effectively owns and controls every domain name written in every other language.
Picking on China on this issue rather seems like a case of the pot calling the kettle black.
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This should have warned us.
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The best of course would be if domain names would be restricted to the strict English character set. Although I am not from an Anglo Saxon country I am convinced English should be the Lingua Franca for Internet domains. (I usually use Latin for all the rest e.g. naming variables, computers in network).
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Chinese characters are known by their dialect names in China but for us outsiders the word Hanzi will do. What the PROC can do is not allow any registration of TLD's with the .cn ending and tell its own DNS servers to ignore the VeriSign implementation. Japan would presumably have use its own TLD .jp and not be affected by the PROC's action.
This action is sad however. I've worked on web pages for the Chinese-American community and having a Chinese domain name would have been nice for our overseas brothers (these pages have nothing to do with Taiwan btw)
They are complaining about the use of the Chinese characters. Imagine if Germany forbade the use of umlauts* in domain names. It sounds impossible to ban. It sounds as if the CCNIC are confused:
"Chinese domain names should be entirely in Chinese," Mao said. "Adding a '.com' is just a temporary method."
Hmm, I don't know why I quoted that bit, I don't understand what he's getting at. But maybe that's my point - htey don't understand what they're trying to do either.
Whatever,
FP.
(*I know what an umlaut really is, linguists out there, but most people know the additional diacriticals as them as umlauts)
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How can one Country block registration to domains written in a certain kind of script.
I mean it's not like one Goverment have control over one script because you have the largest population in the world wich is native to that script.
We are not talking about the TLD here are we? I mean it's not about ending your domain with 3 letters which stand for a country/organisation/etc.).
If we are really talking about the use of chinese characters in Domain names, how can one country have control over that? Can someone give mor insight
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I'm as much for anything that limits the scope and reach of NSI as the next person, but this is a joke. What's next, is England going to forbid any other country from using english words?
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Sorry if this is off-topic, but if a site uses an non iso-8859-xx character set for the domain name, how do these get entered into the 'url entry field'? Having a browser display the correct glyphs is one thing, but being able to create the correct characters from a 'Roman' keyboard is another. I know that it is possible to input Chinese/Japanese etc characters into emacs (though I have never tried) but this uses its own multi-byte character encoding which I do not think would be usable in Netscape, Mozilla or IE (on any Roman alphabet platform.)
I plan to forbid use of piglatin in domain names. eBay (Be in piglatin), I would like 10% of your profits now. Thank you.
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someone at cnet pointed to a site called i-dns.net"
what they have listed under tech might actually be quite insightfull(even thought not technical) and may also prove the point that china can't actually block those other registration companies.
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Yes, we get a lot of rules contantly dictated to us, ridiculus trade embargoes set, and generally get pushed around.
It's not nice to be on the receiving end, is is?
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A little integrity in domains is a good thing.
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Actually, I'm more interested in the possibilities with the .CK TLD...
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Good question. Since putting up chinese characters is, of course, technically feasible for any country's DNS servers etc., then I can't see how the Chinese government expect to do it. They would surely have to rely on the cooperation of every net-enabled country on the planet to outlaw it. And frankly, I can't see many countries wuld make anything but a token effort to prosecute anyone who tries. Still, 'communist' dictatorships have never been high on brains. (Please excuse any the bad grammar or misspelings)
I'm disapointed with the /. crowd - whenever something like this comes up, it seems to be a race as to who can come up with the most insulting put down for another culture. Look, I know that this is an odd move from an Internet perspective, but at least try to start from the point of view that world politics is likely to look different from Beijing than it does from Washington. Not everyone thinks the same way.
Some people feel very strongly about cultural artifacts such as languages - some NZ Maori for example. It's not all that crazy to see how someone might leap to a defensive mode on an issue like this without really thinking through the practical ramifications all that well.
I said IIRC - sorry - my bad memory :) But at least I wasn't making bad .ch jokes ;p
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That's a Chinese company with a Chinese name? Would have sworn by it being an English phrase in English... Damn my brain must be broken again.
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The only domains that might, if anything, need local character support, or those local TLDs of the specific countries.
.tw, international corporations wishing to reach out to Chinese-speaking customers, and Chinsese immigrants.
Except for all of
Despite that, I pretty much agree with you. This was a bad idea from the start. Are CJK characters so much better than a Roman transliteration?
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Maybe you should read the post. I said "Chinese-character equivalent of..."
That's a Chinese company[...]? .cn namespace from now on? No domains owned by individuals or nonprofit organizations?
No. Are only companies going to be allowed in the
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You misspelled "misspellings," you are not excused.
They saw something that looked like it could make money. So they decided that rather than let some corporation do it, they would do it themselves. You can bet that they would charge at least as much as Verisign, and probably much more. That's what happens when you get a monopoly, be it private or public. At least with Verisign there is the potential that someone else could do the same thing some day.
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Or "it has."
Her prepared statement read, "It's my language, and you only have a liscene to use it. As gaurdian of the language, I must see to it that it is not abused."
The fat cats of Beiging will glow in the dark first. I'll be happy if the civilized world sells Taiwan all the nuclear devices they need to defend themselves until the Commies fall under their own corruption and stupidity.
the ".com" and ".net" extensions at the end of Chinese domain names ... VeriSign's system leaves the tags in Roman letters.
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www.sonofabit.ch (For frustrating things)
www.scrat.ch (Everyone's got an itch)
www.tou.ch (.org site for blind people)
www.beowulfcluster.ch (added for more karma)
www.thathurtou.ch (support site for blind people tou.ch-ing the lit stove.
www.cou.ch (For the potato in you)
www.icken.ch (Pig Latin site)
Oh well... Sure hope ke comes up soon.
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Apart from the obvious stupidity of banning a type of lettering, and even trying to enforce something like this, what do they think they can do? Just pretend that the Japanese don't have the same characters?
Better to stay silent, and let people think you're an idiot than to open your mouth and remove all doubt
It might be possible if the China Gov't owns the all the 'top level Chinese' DNS servers. The core motivation is "CONTROL". By restricting the Domain Name registration process to local companies, the Chinese Government has the "CONTROL" to limit and direct business operations..where as Versign would be able to operate outside of this restriction (unless they are forced to sign some agreement).
Prime examples where "CONTROL" would be used by the gov't would be the equivalent Chinese registration of "hotsex.com"....would the gov't allow this? Probably not..thus the need for control.
What about 'Trademarks'??? Are they enforcable for China? Could Coco-Cola, Microsoft, etc stop others from registering their names?
For example, in Chinese the pronuncation for CocaCola is 'hor-loc'. My main question is: let just say there is a 'hor-loc' steal manufactor comapany in China and they decide to register that name... In Chinese there might be many ways to write the SOUND 'hor' and 'loc'...how would the Chinese Gov't or any other authority going to sort this situation out???
....interesting.
Not as much of a joke as you think - China, fortunately, was the most likely candidate to do this, and I'm really glad they did.
.com, .net, and .org TLDs.
VeriSign/NSI *ONLY* hatched this plan of 'allowing' foreign characters, in order for hem to make more profit, and thus add 40,000 new characters to the
This was the ONLY reason for them doing this, and it has woefully little to do with their public posturing of 'expanding horizons of technology' and such crap.
The only domains that should, if anything, need local character support, or those TLDs of the specific countries.
As such, it was just a matter of time until some country would have taken those steps, and now that China has, it is only a matter of time until Korea, and possibly even Japan will take similar steps - the final result: Total fragmentation of the homogenous space that *used* to be the internet.
Personally, I hope that this will be enough to terminate this 'experiment' (which is what it is being biled as), and therefore the world can return to a simple use of the roman character set as the defacto lingua franca for the internet.
And I hope that sooner or later those fuckers from Network Solutions burn in whatever hell they believe in...
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But I have to say FUCK CHINA on this, the internet is international and just because its in a chinese charature dosent mean it should only be in China.Ok thats it bitches all domain names registered in english are now recalled and invalid!!
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So Harry,
Just curious who you work for. Do you wish them to go out of business so that you can't make a living? Or are you just generally against all capitalistic efforts?
Look - shooting a company for trying to be successful in what they do to make money is nonsense.
China is trying to claim national soverienty over a language representation? Uhm - bet Taiwan is pissed! For that matter, doesn't Japanese use the same pictographs for part of their language?
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Simplied Chinese is not really a set of new characters, but more like a new font. And yes, Virginia, you *can* copyright a font.
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But china DOES want to have such domain names, and not even ending with .net .com etc. At least NSI was using standard TLDs. I can't agree with what the chinese government is doing, as essentially they are claiming that they own the language, and therefore they are the sole arbiters of chinese domain names. How is that better than NSI's "experiment"?
The only domains that might, if anything, need local character support, or those local TLDs of the specific countries.
I have a different point of view. Imagine the following situation: I as a native german vistit the US, sit in front of a computer and would like to lookup a site in the
That's a good reason why those Umlaute are not allowed in
The Internet should bring the world together, and it's able to achive this. No one should be able to destroy this, just by allowing silly special signs in domain and URL names.
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Us texans don't drawl, we pronounce words slowly, for easy understanding. If anything, we've polished up the language a little :)
It depends what you call 'literate'. You'll need to know a lot more than 1000 kanji's to 100% understand a newspaper. (I know ~750 and I cannot read any difficult Japanese). A typical Japanese person knows 5000+.
I don't think you understand Unicode enough. 4E00 to 9FA5 is the 'CJK Unified Ideograph' section, which are the Kanji's. The point of unicode is to allow as many characters as possible in 2 byte numbers, and these just couldn't be repeated 3 times (or more) as it takes more than half of the set as it is.
Babelfish doesn't do Japanese/Chinese at the moment, but any translator would have the same problem. What about translating from french or german? How many other languages use the same character set? That's why you choose the *input language*.
And many Japanese Companies have names in Kanji's. It's just the way it works. Things will work exactly the same way as they do with English. Choose a name (represented by charaters) and register it.
You obviously don't know enough about the language to even post a comment about it. True, it is _possible_ to display any Japanese word using hiragana, but I'm assuming that anyone can register a domain with NSI, so they won't care if it's chinese/japanese/korean.
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Or why else should piglatin be your intellectual property?
.ch is not the TLD from China, but Switzerland.
The question isn't over the .cn domain, but over Chinese characters in .com, .net, and .org domain names. And Chinese is an international language -- it is used in Taiwan, Singapore, Malaysia, and Indonesia, among others. And Chinese characters are used in Japanese and Korean.
.com, .net, and .org.
So the People's Republic of China is trying to require half a billion people who are not PRC residents but who use Chinese characters to go through PRC-approved registrars to get Chinese-character domains ending in
There's no "we" in team, only "me"
Why should these companies care anyway? They'll just translate their name to something which pronounced sounds like their name in their native language, and it'll mean "Your sisters makes money being a whore of donkeys and spends her life between walls and sailors" or something.
.net or .com or .(Country Code). Or even .biz or something.
.02$, but not refundable.
If the companies are international, they can use
If they are a Chinese company, with a Chinese name, then they won't be locked out.
That simple.
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