Yea it can function without 1 piece of GNO software. There are other software out there that isn't being controlled by the FSF/GNU. We should remove all FSF code altogether. Shrugs. Seeing using non-GPL programs with GPL programs is a BAAAAAAAAAD things according to RMS. I dont think Perl is a trivial add-on either. Apache, is. And I call it "Linux" and thinks anyone who calls it "GNU/Linux" is smoking weed.:-\
I would start my gf off on something easy, like RedHat. Then as she progressed with knowledge, I would install a "harder" Linux distro for her, any way, I rarely keep OS's for any length of time without a reformat or reinstall, doesn't matter that much to me anyhow. And yes, I know you can edit the config files by hand, but RPMs vs tarballs, etc. With Slackware, I am forced to use the tarballs. Hehe. And she really can't do anything on here without running into problems. Thats why I want her to learn on RedHat and move up first. It's my time I'm wasting anyhow.:)
Here in New York state, you request to be put on a "do not call" list, you fill out the requested info (name, house # & street, phone #) and the Attorney General's office puts the name/number on the list, and it's for life, you just update the info when you move, etc. Really great, and the fine for the telemarketers calling you on the list (which is updated/published every 3 months) is $1000 per incident. Charity and that kind of jazz (police charities, local community stuff) is exempt from the fines. All in all, it's a great program. My phone has stopped ringing off the hook since I requested to be put on it. Hehe.
All the cool pictures in Time and Newsweek from the HST while in highschool. Though those where sehr cool photos of distant galaxies. After they first discovered the glitch in the optics, I was very surprised they managed to correct that. Was also very glad as an amatuer astromner that NASA fixed it. If they can increase the lifespan then bring it down to the Air & Space Muesum, that would be really cool, and I would wanna see that exhibit. (Yea, I have a few spelling errors, but I'm tired & need sleep;)
Like Steve Jobs *stole* the GUI from XEROX as well? XEROX allowed him to parts of the GUI and sell it himself. *shrugs* Gates probably did so *some* programming in Messy DOS. And as for a CLI OS, it was great. Not the best. But good enough for the average back in the late 80s early 90s. Win3.x was another good OS from M$, after that, they went downhill in quality.
Welllll I'm wanting to migrate my girlfriend over to *NIX, so she won't have to worry about her computer crashing all the time. I figured I will install either HedRat or Debian then Slack then *BSD on her computer, allowing her to grow more confident in using a computer. And a Win* boxen is not always best for SO or parents, You can setup Mandrake/RedHat to behave almost like Windows but without the crashes.. If you take the time. Im wanting to do that soon with my girlfriend. Hehe
Aww man, I wish I could watch Monty Python as well..:'(
After getting kernel 2.4.9 not 10 mins ago, I decided what was up on/. before I passed out, and I'm GLAD I did! Now only if I could get FreeBSD installed on my other computer.. Maybe I should get this book and see how much "help" it provides. Hehe
I got a SB Live Platnium 5.1 working in Win2000 Advanced Server, SP2, though I JUST installed the drivers for it. Though it's been a month since I've been in Windows to play with it. I'm finding Linux 2.4.6 (yes im going to upgrade to 2.4.9) and XF86 4.1.0 enough for me at the moment, though I am really missing my games.:-\
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Sorry for taking so long to reply, but unless YOU yourself wrote bash/KDE/Gnome/et al., you are just using a program that is doing the interfacing themselves without your input, usual. Unless something goes wrong, they will keep the kernel away from you.
And Linux is JUST the kernel.:-P I never claimed I had advanced knowledged of Linux, but oh well.
And I know what interface means, but you still have to use the programs to do the interfacing for you.
And I happen to like XF4.1.0 and AfterStep1.8.9. Though I use bash when I need to rename/move/copy files. Which is like always.
IIS... It's a telnet/ftp/http server all in one. I think that is what he is trying to say. Of course Apache isn't a webservice, it's just a httpd. Imagine that;)
Name me a free pieces of software, that are OpenSource, that you consider bloatware. and do not say RedHat/Mandrake/etc, seeing those are distrobutions of Linux. As far as tech support, I have much better tech support w/ OpenSource Software then with a M$ junk. I usually ask a few of my friends to help me, but I get knowledgable help without cost, though I do buy them beers afterwards. Is the cost of 1 pint of beer more then US$21.95 (or whatever M$ charges) per incident?
We can't have any exceptions, that would totally invalidate the article. We cannot have that, seeing it's on a pro-Linux website. Now can we?;) Yea I noticed that, and usually the next month or two, it goes back up. I usually pay attention to NetCraft site once a week.
They switched because they had begun to look beyond web servers to web services. Right under the collective nose of the Open Source community, the battleground has shifted. People need vanilla webservers today like they need Rolodexes in an age of digital organisers.
Uhm Ok. So it's a good thing that IIS is a ftpd, telnetd and httpd? Whatever happened to using the right tools for the right job? Or has people become lazy now and want a all-in-one package? I use Apache for my httpd, ProFTPd for my ftpd, and OpenSSH for my sshd. Oh wait, IIS cannot do SSH can it? I now must download a program to handle any sshd I need, seeing I no longer use telnetd on my Linux box. So it's better to have one bloated piece of software handling most of my daemons, then having one lightwight program per daemon? That is SO kEwL. I guess I shall buy Win2000 Adv. Server and install IIS by default and download the CR patch and reboot, then if that's not enough, download a 200 meg Service Pack to fix some of the 60K bugs in it. Tell me WHY this is a GOOD idea?:) That is the one good thing I like about *NIX in general, I rarely need to reboot for anything. Jack of all trades, master of none. -- the new slogan Redmond Inc. should use for IIS.
Well I think all the benchmarks comparing the Intel and Motorola chips, the OS's are some flavor and Mac, which in my humble opinion, isn't a fair benchmark comparison. If you wanna compare chips, use the same hardware and OS's, but I am probably preaching to the choir here.
Dude, I downloaded and install BeOS 5 for Windows, and I felt like I was using a Mac with a shell. Thankfully I didn't keep it there for long, or I would of lost it.
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When was the LAST time you actually interfaced with any kernel (OS not included) directly? I know for me, it was about 2 weeks ago when I get 2.4.6 compiled on here. Butttt come on, people rarely have to interface with the kernel on a daily basis, unless you happen to be a programmer, then yea. But I don't even think you can even look at the kernel in a Windows box, so don't complain. BTW Happy Birthday Tux!
I have no idea why I am replying to an Anonymous Coward posting, but, here I am. This article is about the IIS daemon, and not the website! But how many times it's been reported that M$ OWN website has been hacked? Too many that I've lost count:). themes.org was also hacked. So what if the Apache website was hacked? Are you THAT dense not to tell the difference between a WEBSITE and a Web DAEMON? Grow a fscking brain before spreading FUD against Apache/*NIX. Yes Linux is just as hackable as Win*, but unlike Win*, you either can patch the system yourself or download the patches. For Win*, YOU have to WAIT for the offical patch! Oh goodness, it's a closed sourced system and I can't patch the OS myself.
I once helped a friend rename win.com to bob.com (the teacher's name who owned the laptop) and the teacher went ballistic. And of course I got blamed for it, even though I didn't do any of it. The reason I got blamed, because I was the only one there (this was at a FBLA Spring Conference) who knew _anything_ about computers. I had to explain to the teacher (he only used computers for grades and typing the weekly agenda sheets) what I did and how I could "fix" it for him. He gave me back the laptop after I promised I wouldn't "break" it again (seeing how I had to pratice typing or whatever my competation was that year). When we got back to school, I told my CompSci/SysAdmin what I did to the laptop, he just laughed with me and made me promise I wouldn't torment that particular teacher again.
A little side note to all of this. I brought with me a floppy to save my documents. And I come home, pop the floppy into the floppy drive, and my anti-virus beeped at me, saying the floppy had a virus on it. And I knew before hand, that was a clean floppy, no viruses, etc on it. And so I spent the rest of the year, with the SysAdmin killing the virus that had spread from the laptop to the network. Someone else had used the laptop before me. sigh.. Atleast I got to do something useful with my time then, instead of playing games & chatting on irc, I was that far ahead in my computer classes. Hehe
But when he is up for re-election, he can tell the folks in New Jersey, he not only co-sponsored bills, but he WROTE bills that became law.;) And Mr. Conduit is _very_ forthcoming about his conduct and actions. It's those right-wing conspirators attacking him unfairly, just ask my Senator, Hillary Klinton about them and how they attacked her loving husband! (Before anyone says Imma unfairly acting Republicans, I am a conservative Republican and voted for McCain in the primaries for NY).
I think we let common sense go when the 90s came around, and started this "we're not responibile for our own actions" kick, and let society as a whole deteriorate and now we are finally realizing what is happening to us, when bills such as this get proposed. I thought we had too many laws on the book that made innocent actions into something illegal. DCMA... No more archival backups, as an example. I wonder when the Surpreme Court is going to strike down these unconsititutional laws. Heaven forbid we shall want some personal freedoms in a _free_ _society_, that'll be like asking for us to use our private property for what we want to do with it, and not what the Federal/State/Local govt. says we can do and not do with it.;)
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Yea it can function without 1 piece of GNO software. There are other software out there that isn't being controlled by the FSF/GNU. We should remove all FSF code altogether. Shrugs. Seeing using non-GPL programs with GPL programs is a BAAAAAAAAAD things according to RMS. I dont think Perl is a trivial add-on either. Apache, is. And I call it "Linux" and thinks anyone who calls it "GNU/Linux" is smoking weed. :-\
Better then the companies knowing where I live ;)
I'm using Slackware 8.0 Kernel 2.4.9 XF4.1.0
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I would start my gf off on something easy, like RedHat. Then as she progressed with knowledge, I would install a "harder" Linux distro for her, any way, I rarely keep OS's for any length of time without a reformat or reinstall, doesn't matter that much to me anyhow. And yes, I know you can edit the config files by hand, but RPMs vs tarballs, etc. With Slackware, I am forced to use the tarballs. Hehe. And she really can't do anything on here without running into problems. Thats why I want her to learn on RedHat and move up first. It's my time I'm wasting anyhow.
Here in New York state, you request to be put on a "do not call" list, you fill out the requested info (name, house # & street, phone #) and the Attorney General's office puts the name/number on the list, and it's for life, you just update the info when you move, etc. Really great, and the fine for the telemarketers calling you on the list (which is updated/published every 3 months) is $1000 per incident. Charity and that kind of jazz (police charities, local community stuff) is exempt from the fines. All in all, it's a great program. My phone has stopped ringing off the hook since I requested to be put on it. Hehe.
All the cool pictures in Time and Newsweek from the HST while in highschool. Though those where sehr cool photos of distant galaxies. After they first discovered the glitch in the optics, I was very surprised they managed to correct that. Was also very glad as an amatuer astromner that NASA fixed it. If they can increase the lifespan then bring it down to the Air & Space Muesum, that would be really cool, and I would wanna see that exhibit. (Yea, I have a few spelling errors, but I'm tired & need sleep ;)
Like Steve Jobs *stole* the GUI from XEROX as well? XEROX allowed him to parts of the GUI and sell it himself. *shrugs* Gates probably did so *some* programming in Messy DOS. And as for a CLI OS, it was great. Not the best. But good enough for the average back in the late 80s early 90s. Win3.x was another good OS from M$, after that, they went downhill in quality.
Welllll I'm wanting to migrate my girlfriend over to *NIX, so she won't have to worry about her computer crashing all the time. I figured I will install either HedRat or Debian then Slack then *BSD on her computer, allowing her to grow more confident in using a computer. And a Win* boxen is not always best for SO or parents, You can setup Mandrake/RedHat to behave almost like Windows but without the crashes.. If you take the time. Im wanting to do that soon with my girlfriend. Hehe
Aww man, I wish I could watch Monty Python as well.. :'(
After getting kernel 2.4.9 not 10 mins ago, I decided what was up on /. before I passed out, and I'm GLAD I did! Now only if I could get FreeBSD installed on my other computer.. Maybe I should get this book and see how much "help" it provides. Hehe
I got a SB Live Platnium 5.1 working in Win2000 Advanced Server, SP2, though I JUST installed the drivers for it. Though it's been a month since I've been in Windows to play with it. I'm finding Linux 2.4.6 (yes im going to upgrade to 2.4.9) and XF86 4.1.0 enough for me at the moment, though I am really missing my games. :-\
Sorry for taking so long to reply, but unless YOU yourself wrote bash/KDE/Gnome/et al., you are just using a program that is doing the interfacing themselves without your input, usual. Unless something goes wrong, they will keep the kernel away from you.
:-P I never claimed I had advanced knowledged of Linux, but oh well.
And Linux is JUST the kernel.
And I know what interface means, but you still have to use the programs to do the interfacing for you.
And I happen to like XF4.1.0 and AfterStep1.8.9. Though I use bash when I need to rename/move/copy files. Which is like always.
IIS... It's a telnet/ftp/http server all in one. I think that is what he is trying to say. Of course Apache isn't a webservice, it's just a httpd. Imagine that ;)
Name me a free pieces of software, that are OpenSource, that you consider bloatware. and do not say RedHat/Mandrake/etc, seeing those are distrobutions of Linux. As far as tech support, I have much better tech support w/ OpenSource Software then with a M$ junk. I usually ask a few of my friends to help me, but I get knowledgable help without cost, though I do buy them beers afterwards. Is the cost of 1 pint of beer more then US$21.95 (or whatever M$ charges) per incident?
We can't have any exceptions, that would totally invalidate the article. We cannot have that, seeing it's on a pro-Linux website. Now can we? ;) Yea I noticed that, and usually the next month or two, it goes back up. I usually pay attention to NetCraft site once a week.
They switched because they had begun to look beyond web servers to web services. Right under the collective nose of the Open Source community, the battleground has shifted. People need vanilla webservers today like they need Rolodexes in an age of digital organisers.
:)
Uhm Ok. So it's a good thing that IIS is a ftpd, telnetd and httpd? Whatever happened to using the right tools for the right job? Or has people become lazy now and want a all-in-one package? I use Apache for my httpd, ProFTPd for my ftpd, and OpenSSH for my sshd. Oh wait, IIS cannot do SSH can it? I now must download a program to handle any sshd I need, seeing I no longer use telnetd on my Linux box. So it's better to have one bloated piece of software handling most of my daemons, then having one lightwight program per daemon?
That is SO kEwL. I guess I shall buy Win2000 Adv. Server and install IIS by default and download the CR patch and reboot, then if that's not enough, download a 200 meg Service Pack to fix some of the 60K bugs in it. Tell me WHY this is a GOOD idea?
That is the one good thing I like about *NIX in general, I rarely need to reboot for anything.
Jack of all trades, master of none. -- the new slogan Redmond Inc. should use for IIS.
are some flavor [of Windows].
That'll teach me about not proof reading/previewing comments again.
Well I think all the benchmarks comparing the Intel and Motorola chips, the OS's are some flavor and Mac, which in my humble opinion, isn't a fair benchmark comparison. If you wanna compare chips, use the same hardware and OS's, but I am probably preaching to the choir here.
Dude, I downloaded and install BeOS 5 for Windows, and I felt like I was using a Mac with a shell. Thankfully I didn't keep it there for long, or I would of lost it.
When was the LAST time you actually interfaced with any kernel (OS not included) directly? I know for me, it was about 2 weeks ago when I get 2.4.6 compiled on here. Butttt come on, people rarely have to interface with the kernel on a daily basis, unless you happen to be a programmer, then yea. But I don't even think you can even look at the kernel in a Windows box, so don't complain. BTW Happy Birthday Tux!
I have no idea why I am replying to an Anonymous Coward posting, but, here I am. This article is about the IIS daemon, and not the website! But how many times it's been reported that M$ OWN website has been hacked? Too many that I've lost count :). themes.org was also hacked. So what if the Apache website was hacked? Are you THAT dense not to tell the difference between a WEBSITE and a Web DAEMON? Grow a fscking brain before spreading FUD against Apache/*NIX. Yes Linux is just as hackable as Win*, but unlike Win*, you either can patch the system yourself or download the patches. For Win*, YOU have to WAIT for the offical patch! Oh goodness, it's a closed sourced system and I can't patch the OS myself.
I once helped a friend rename win.com to bob.com (the teacher's name who owned the laptop) and the teacher went ballistic. And of course I got blamed for it, even though I didn't do any of it. The reason I got blamed, because I was the only one there (this was at a FBLA Spring Conference) who knew _anything_ about computers. I had to explain to the teacher (he only used computers for grades and typing the weekly agenda sheets) what I did and how I could "fix" it for him. He gave me back the laptop after I promised I wouldn't "break" it again (seeing how I had to pratice typing or whatever my competation was that year). When we got back to school, I told my CompSci/SysAdmin what I did to the laptop, he just laughed with me and made me promise I wouldn't torment that particular teacher again.
A little side note to all of this. I brought with me a floppy to save my documents. And I come home, pop the floppy into the floppy drive, and my anti-virus beeped at me, saying the floppy had a virus on it. And I knew before hand, that was a clean floppy, no viruses, etc on it. And so I spent the rest of the year, with the SysAdmin killing the virus that had spread from the laptop to the network. Someone else had used the laptop before me. sigh.. Atleast I got to do something useful with my time then, instead of playing games & chatting on irc, I was that far ahead in my computer classes. Hehe
I really should hit preview more often ;) ;)
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But when he is up for re-election, he can tell the folks in New Jersey, he not only co-sponsored bills, but he WROTE bills that became law. ;)
And Mr. Conduit is _very_ forthcoming about his conduct and actions. It's those right-wing conspirators attacking him unfairly, just ask my Senator, Hillary Klinton about them and how they attacked her loving husband! (Before anyone says Imma unfairly acting Republicans, I am a conservative Republican and voted for McCain in the primaries for NY).
s/DCMA/DMCA I don't pay attention to the names of really _annoying_ laws that prevent my legal rights to make 1 back up anything. Hehe ;)
I think we let common sense go when the 90s came around, and started this "we're not responibile for our own actions" kick, and let society as a whole deteriorate and now we are finally realizing what is happening to us, when bills such as this get proposed. I thought we had too many laws on the book that made innocent actions into something illegal. DCMA ... No more archival backups, as an example. I wonder when the Surpreme Court is going to strike down these unconsititutional laws. Heaven forbid we shall want some personal freedoms in a _free_ _society_, that'll be like asking for us to use our private property for what we want to do with it, and not what the Federal/State/Local govt. says we can do and not do with it. ;)
Sounds like the BSD license already...