how exactly was he bashing anyone ? he was just politely expressing his opinion. The only person I can see here who _is_ bashing others is you. And since when incorrect use of english invalidates one's arguments ?
how many of you would think it twice before willingly installing software from a chinese software company -- given all the news we hear recently about chinese companies being denied access to important western markets due to security reasons and all.
well if i had RTFA-d I would have realized that they are indeed performing a real MITM, as https can't be really proxied without a MITM. my first post is kind of dumb, but i still don't think they are doing it for sniffing our details.
well if there is an S in the end, even if they use a proxy, they are not able to read the sensitive, or any data that is. However i doubt they would be dumb enough to even want to do such a thing, it must be something more innocent ( for speeding up reasons? )
IMHO you are comparing apples to oranges. giving food to poor people in africa does not solve any problem. the problem would be solved if they had a strong economy, education etc. the equivalent of this in the field of medicine, with the added benefit that it SOLVES ( instead of postponing ) a particular set of problem for all humanity ( instead of just africa ), is FINDING a permanent cure for diseases.
finding a permanent cure for a genetic disease is not like providing food to africa.
giving someone an aspirine for his pain = giving a person a fish
finding a permanent cure for a genetic disease = teaching someone how to fish ( but for a totally different problem than eating )
i'm all for being educated. provide me with links where mainstream christianity ( catholicism, orthodoxes, protestants ) for example:
1) requires you to spend a ton of money in buying its books
2) sells you machines that "improve your life"
3) threatens you if you leave them
4) harasses members that left them
5) tries to obstruct documentaries made on them
Sure, every religion is fraudelent ( they sell hope ), but there are different ways of doing that. Operating in a mafia style style and being included in criminal activities ( not just members, but a criminal activity which is a policy of the top ), is not acceptable in my book.
so the failure to do anything about the wrongdoings of the catholic church is the reason scientology is doing what is doing today, thus they are not to blame ?
which same argument am i making ?
so you are saying
"scientology blackmails, threatens, harasses ex-member and people who point out what scientology really is because the catholic church set a low bar of moral expectations".
and
"catholic priests are pedophiles, therefore scientology is innocent". the well known as "you too" argument.
do yourself a favor and educate yourself:
i don't know alot of mormonism, but scientology has been known to harass, abuse, threaten ex-members, people who disagree with them etc. etc. also check out
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Snow_White
spending money on such stupidities, such as trying to suck usable energy from an already too-low energy form ( low entropy ) as is the body heat, they should spend it for example trying to make solar cells more efficient or cheaper.
idiots.
one small step for a university, one huge leap for our roadmap towards simulating a brain. Another one recent example of our progress in this was the Spaun brain model ( a small one that is, IIRC 12million neurons ) which was featured on slashdot as well, and also the older blue brain project http://bluebrain.epfl.ch/
I can't wait for the moment ( within 20 years hopefully ) when we will have a full human brain simulation. the possibilities from that point are endless. Maybe our last invention!
it's not (entirely) about the cells, but mostly about what's stored in them. in other words, it's about the software and data, not the hardware. Though actually both hardware and software ( + data ) make us for what we are. Nevertheless, the question shouldn't arise, because I don't see why either can't be copied theoretically. Hardware ( the brain ) can be copied - theoretically - in a 1-1 process, through cloning, and the same goes for software and data, once we have a technique through which we can read what the cells store. I mean, I don't see any theoretical problem with it, it's merely practical for the time being. The brain is just a complex electrochemical machine with a hard disk. Unless one believes in invisible pink unicorns ( soul ) , I don't see why it cannot theoretically be exactly copied.
about your second paragraph:
how do we prove it. I think it goes like this: when we will be at a technological stage where mind reading and transferring will start to be possible, we most probably won't suddenly have a 100% copy technique, it may start as a 90% copy and through refinements it will reach 99% or 99,999% even up to 100%. Even a 95% or 99% copy is not bad. I don't think people who have brain surgeries and have had parts of their brains removed or disabled due to a stroke, feel like they are not their real selves. How do we prove the copy was exact ? I think it will be possible through a md5 or sha1 check of both minds after the copying transfer. I don't see why does it matter if the old copy is destroyed in the process of copying ( if it works that way ), IF the new copy is exactly the same. It doesn't matter at all. The "death" will only be a second or so and you won't be aware of it. Just like going to sleep and then waking up.
surgical transfer is a temporary choice in my book. and a bad one that is. like you said the brain decays too. For me the correct and elegant solution is mind-transfer. The "where is the soul" problem is non-existent for non religious people ( and i think most people who have "ethical" problems with cloning do so, mainly due to a total collapse of the "this unique thing called soul exists" notion -- though i'm sure they will find a philosophical workaround once a human clone happens, but that's a totally different topic ). The "who am i" question will not arise, because the "new" you will feel exactly that the old new, provided that the mind-information transfer was precise and total. It's like you waking up from an appendectomy surgery. Do you ask yourself that question in that occasion ?
it won't be an rj45, it will be an intel socket 2011!
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how exactly was he bashing anyone ? he was just politely expressing his opinion. The only person I can see here who _is_ bashing others is you. And since when incorrect use of english invalidates one's arguments ?
p.s. care to enlighten us with your _knowledge_ ?
you forgot to mention that...elvis still lives and americans didn't land on the moon.
how many of you would think it twice before willingly installing software from a chinese software company -- given all the news we hear recently about chinese companies being denied access to important western markets due to security reasons and all.
well if i had RTFA-d I would have realized that they are indeed performing a real MITM, as https can't be really proxied without a MITM. my first post is kind of dumb, but i still don't think they are doing it for sniffing our details.
well if there is an S in the end, even if they use a proxy, they are not able to read the sensitive, or any data that is. However i doubt they would be dumb enough to even want to do such a thing, it must be something more innocent ( for speeding up reasons? )
but now that they told us what they are going to do, the messages won't be a secret any more ?
tl;dr: security by obscurity is a bad thing!
"Hey guys! Watch this!" was ok, he didn't kill as many people as Mao.
p.s. i wonder how you guys put stalin but forgot mao!
IMHO you are comparing apples to oranges. giving food to poor people in africa does not solve any problem. the problem would be solved if they had a strong economy, education etc. the equivalent of this in the field of medicine, with the added benefit that it SOLVES ( instead of postponing ) a particular set of problem for all humanity ( instead of just africa ), is FINDING a permanent cure for diseases.
finding a permanent cure for a genetic disease is not like providing food to africa.
giving someone an aspirine for his pain = giving a person a fish
finding a permanent cure for a genetic disease = teaching someone how to fish ( but for a totally different problem than eating )
genuine question:
wouldn't it be wise for practical* reasons for people to offer more power to folding@home instead of einstein@home?
* = has more chances to help humanity ( for curing diseases etc. )
i'm all for being educated. provide me with links where mainstream christianity ( catholicism, orthodoxes, protestants ) for example: 1) requires you to spend a ton of money in buying its books 2) sells you machines that "improve your life" 3) threatens you if you leave them 4) harasses members that left them 5) tries to obstruct documentaries made on them Sure, every religion is fraudelent ( they sell hope ), but there are different ways of doing that. Operating in a mafia style style and being included in criminal activities ( not just members, but a criminal activity which is a policy of the top ), is not acceptable in my book.
so the failure to do anything about the wrongdoings of the catholic church is the reason scientology is doing what is doing today, thus they are not to blame ? which same argument am i making ?
so you are saying "scientology blackmails, threatens, harasses ex-member and people who point out what scientology really is because the catholic church set a low bar of moral expectations". and "catholic priests are pedophiles, therefore scientology is innocent". the well known as "you too" argument. do yourself a favor and educate yourself:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuJlZ_f1594
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Freakout
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_snow_white
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_game_(Scientology)
p.s. not a catholic, not religious at all.
valid point. I'd like to see it banned world-wide, it's just that i dwell in the EU, so that's why i "focused" there.
i don't know alot of mormonism, but scientology has been known to harass, abuse, threaten ex-members, people who disagree with them etc. etc. also check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Snow_White
about time this happened. It should be banned EU-wide.
spending money on such stupidities, such as trying to suck usable energy from an already too-low energy form ( low entropy ) as is the body heat, they should spend it for example trying to make solar cells more efficient or cheaper. idiots.
so because nvidia software opens a pipe, it's windows fault. well done descartes!
yay! i'm upgrading to ms-dos right now!
are you aware of any OS that does not suffer by privilege escalation exploits ? if so, be a dear and share it with the rest of us.
one small step for a university, one huge leap for our roadmap towards simulating a brain. Another one recent example of our progress in this was the Spaun brain model ( a small one that is, IIRC 12million neurons ) which was featured on slashdot as well, and also the older blue brain project http://bluebrain.epfl.ch/
I can't wait for the moment ( within 20 years hopefully ) when we will have a full human brain simulation. the possibilities from that point are endless. Maybe our last invention!
a minute late and a post short.
like, seriously?
about your first paragraph:
it's not (entirely) about the cells, but mostly about what's stored in them. in other words, it's about the software and data, not the hardware. Though actually both hardware and software ( + data ) make us for what we are. Nevertheless, the question shouldn't arise, because I don't see why either can't be copied theoretically. Hardware ( the brain ) can be copied - theoretically - in a 1-1 process, through cloning, and the same goes for software and data, once we have a technique through which we can read what the cells store. I mean, I don't see any theoretical problem with it, it's merely practical for the time being. The brain is just a complex electrochemical machine with a hard disk. Unless one believes in invisible pink unicorns ( soul ) , I don't see why it cannot theoretically be exactly copied.
about your second paragraph:
how do we prove it. I think it goes like this: when we will be at a technological stage where mind reading and transferring will start to be possible, we most probably won't suddenly have a 100% copy technique, it may start as a 90% copy and through refinements it will reach 99% or 99,999% even up to 100%. Even a 95% or 99% copy is not bad. I don't think people who have brain surgeries and have had parts of their brains removed or disabled due to a stroke, feel like they are not their real selves. How do we prove the copy was exact ? I think it will be possible through a md5 or sha1 check of both minds after the copying transfer. I don't see why does it matter if the old copy is destroyed in the process of copying ( if it works that way ), IF the new copy is exactly the same. It doesn't matter at all. The "death" will only be a second or so and you won't be aware of it. Just like going to sleep and then waking up.
surgical transfer is a temporary choice in my book. and a bad one that is. like you said the brain decays too. For me the correct and elegant solution is mind-transfer. The "where is the soul" problem is non-existent for non religious people ( and i think most people who have "ethical" problems with cloning do so, mainly due to a total collapse of the "this unique thing called soul exists" notion -- though i'm sure they will find a philosophical workaround once a human clone happens, but that's a totally different topic ). The "who am i" question will not arise, because the "new" you will feel exactly that the old new, provided that the mind-information transfer was precise and total. It's like you waking up from an appendectomy surgery. Do you ask yourself that question in that occasion ?
it won't be an rj45, it will be an intel socket 2011!