This feature of the universe "information" is one of the things that is still puzzling physics folk about black holes.
> The Mandelbrot Set just is.
Indeed, and so is any odd hydrogen atom until it falls across an event horizon. Then it is not, and that is the problem. According to current theory, the information about what fell in is lost. IF we watch a BH from its creation onward we can say X atoms of hydrogen, Y atoms of helium, etc. fell in - sooooo this BH is made up of those items. OTOH, if we watch one evaporate, we cannot determine what fell in. The features, composition, all the information about the matter and energy that was, no longer is.
All that is conserved by a BH is mass, charge, and angular momentum. Wouldn't it be odd if those "informational" items are all that really "matter"?
>...big company is supporting a BSD based OS rather than a linux one. > And that is better since we can then use it as a development platform
I'm not sure what your misconceptions are, but whether it's BSD or Linux does not matter one bit to me as far as development is concerned.
> (remember, even Microsft is better for development, from a licencing point of view, > since one can create proprietary products, not be obliged to give out source etc.)
Huh? Your only qualification for a development platform is the license? What about reliability? Ease of use? Cost? WinXX is better than what, doing what kind of development for what target?
Anyway, there is no difference in the restrictions on licenses for code that you develop between BSD and Linux. The license for code that you create is up to you. Where are you coming from?
>But then you don't use linux to develop anything but linux, do you?
Your bias is showing, as well as your ignorance. Actually, I use Linux to develop java apps for both server and client side. Can you guess where they run?
>whereas the rest of us use an OS to get a job done
Haha, you must be counting crashes, or megabytes per dialog window or something, or perhaps you are just counting the dollars in M$ bank account. The rest of us use linux as file servers, web servers, firewalls, dial-in access servers, and yes java development workstations. We have one box here that multi-boots w9x, wNT(actually, it boots whatever the latest-and-Greatest-at-the-moment M$ concoction is) just so that we can check out our apps in ie(we've spent more money on software that we really don't ever use for that one box...).
Somewhat OT, but interesting...I discovered an odd benchmark the other day. My Dell Inspiron 433MHz celeron laptop with redhat is 20% faster at the seti@home client than the 600MHz P3 Dell Optiplex workstation running the seti client under NT4+.
MOST of what is in a linux distro is not the kernel. Most of the GPL'd software in any distro is the tool sets such as bash, gcc, etc. Many of these tools are also available and used by BSD based distros.
So it would take much more than simply replacing the kernel of a linux distro to produce a GPL-free release.
The US pres doesn't set the budget for the US gov. The Congress does. All the pres gets to do is propose a budget, just as any citizen can do and which the congress is completely free to ignore. Which they usually do. Other than that, all the pres gets to do is face lots of cameras and microphones and talk about how good his budget is and how bad Congress is.
After the budget is passed by Congress, all the pres gets to do is sign it or not.
Ignoring your condescending attitude I'll just respond. From your interpretation of the dictionary:
>2. Failure to win. That seems to speak pretty clearly to me.
From RtA:
>The independence of Texas was won !
I guess we can argue about tactical losses or sacrifices and strategic victories, or heroic battles that can be regarded as such by both the victors and the losers. We can even get down to the details and discuss the loss, failure, or defeat of the nine Texans that were killed at San Jacinto; or we can discuss the victory or success that was won in part by their loss.
Isn't the English language wonderful?
Do you measure success or failure only by life or death? Did those men captured by SH and his army at SJ succeed because they survived? There are many ways to measure success, one that you have not brought up is the kill ratio. How many of the Mexican army that attacked the Alamo were in one way or another put out of action by the men that were defending the Alamo?
At the Alamo, the Texans fought well, as did the Mexicans. Considering the fact that the Alamo is remembered, and how important memories can be to morale and motivation, I'd have to consider the Alamo to be a success, not a source of embarrassment to either side. Certainly if the Mexicans had succeeded in suppressing the Texan uprising, then the memory or history records of what happened at the Alamo would not in any way, shape or form resemble what we think and read today.
What is/was embarrassing about the Alamo? It was certainly a heroic defeat, but not a failure.
What does it have to do with US history, except for the fact that Texas is now part of the US? The only memorable things that happened at the Alamo, happened well before Texas joined the US. So from a cultural or national perspective(not as individuals) who in the US, and not of Texas, cares enough to be embarrassed?
Round numbers help, but 2m/sec is not far off. It is easy to take two steps, aka 1 full stride, which for me is about 6 feet in one second. Try taking ten strides, or twenty steps at a normal walking pace while watching a clock.
BTW, what does this have to do with teaching kids and reality?
Other than that, I know for sure it does not take anywhere near half a minute to make it to the bathroom from here and it is more than 60 feet away. So, some pedestrian designers must assume Grandma and a walker or the equivalent. BTW, when was the last time that you saw someone moving at a 2ft/sec.(crawl) bang their shin?
Lessee...assume walking speed of about 2 meters per second...assume table is fixed and does not flex...assume leg/foot speed is 2x walking speed as it is coming forward in your stride...assume skin on shin is 2mm thick and will deform completely upon impact.
Accelleration = change in velocity / change in time.
A = (4m/sec - 0m/sec) / (2m/1000 / 4m/sec) A = 4m/sec / 0.0005sec A = 8000m/sec/sec 1G = 9.8 m/sec
Soooo
Ag = 8000m/sec/sec / 9.8 m/sec/sec = 816G on your shin. No wonder it hurts!
OK, so you have to run into the table to get up to 1500G, BFD.
>...if somebody has me agree that I will not sue them if they attack me, > and then sneaks into my house and attacks me...
Compare these two: "sexual assault" and "fun with your SO".
The only LEGAL difference is that in one case the two parties involved agreed to the activity, and in the other they did not. Notice that a written, notarized contract is not required, nor is an explicit verbal agreement.
...if you haven't "figured" it out yet, girls are truly chaotic. It doesn't matter if you use 8/16/32/64... whatever number of bits in your calculations.
Sometimes you can predict their behavior for a short time into the future, but at other times, or for any real distance into the future the resolution of your predictions becomes so poor as to be useless.
Even if the quality of your input data was ideal down to the quantum level, your GF-model will still have to deal with Heisenberg and after him, you'll have to deal with your GF-real who's mad at you for some reason(spending so much time on that silly computer program, perhaps?).
>...the owner of the house enjoys a tax break that helps defer the interest on the mortgage loan, the renter pays exorbitant rental fees. These fees are in no way tax deductible, and we end up with a class of people who can only rent.
No, we end up with a bunch of individuals that choose to rent, and choose to rent again, and even when presented with the evidence that ownership has advantages over rental they do not change their minds or their behavior and continue to rent.
>Unfair? yes.
No. It's simply the reality of a pseudo-free market and a bunch of lazy whiners.
>So.. what are you going to do about it?
Why the obvious thing of course. Do what I did:
Bite the bullet. Don't spend your money on new car payments. Don't eat out. Take your lunch to work with you. Don't make any more kids. Don't waste your bucks on dates. Go to school in the evening(since you are not out chasing babes you've got the time). Do your own laundry. Use a secured credit card to buy stuff THAT YOU CAN AFFORD. Make your payments ON TIME. Pay it off. Save some money. Establish a good credit record. Get another credit card. Use it. Pay it off. All while saving up 10% for a downpayment then go buy a place.
IOW, get with the program.
After 2-5 years of honest, focused effort: TaDa! Problem solved. Next question please?
...The legaleeze anyway. What good is some disclaimer that says unauthorized access is, well, unauthorized??!?!? That's a laugh. I put a lock on my door(password) and then have to post a sign that says something like "Breaking this lock and entering this house(computer) is illegal" in order to prosecute the crook?!?! Really, I'm cracking up. Just ask Kevin Mitnick if you think this is legit.
Anyway, lot's of good that warning note will do for you as you try to prosecute a cracker that has attacked your machine from his home in Khazakstan.
The Digital/Compaq compiler for True64 Unix called ccc is MUCH better and has been released along with libraries for use on Linux boxes. There are still some problems compiling code that was written for gcc, but there are workarounds.
Read some of the alpha/axp newsgroups for more info.
[marcus@earth marcus]$ uptime 10:44pm up 331 days, 9:55, 6 users, load average: 0.14, 0.05, 0.01 [marcus@earth marcus]$ uname -a Linux earth 2.2.5 #3 Sun May 30 13:10:30 CDT 1999 alpha unknown
That's an OLD alpha axppci33(266MHz, 256K cache, 64MB RAM, 6GB of disks) that does qmail, 2 apache servers(one being a devel/demo of java servlets), leafnode, ftpd, local DNS, PPP on three dial-in lines plus firewalling and masquerade for 6 boxes on the local LAN and the dial-ins 24/7 and obviously working on that 365 part. Its plenty fast as there is no problem saturating the 10Mb ethernet with apache(raw files) or ftpd.
Total cost of about $550.00.
Since the ADSL line is about to arrive, I'm going to have to take it down to add another NIC.:-(
No, it does not run X, Netscape, nor any "office" software. Consumer platform? No, it's flawless just as it is.
Lots of our(the world's) problems would be solved if people would just talk to each other rather than talking to lawyers, or politicians, OR pulling out a weapon.
>I like naïveté when I see it...
Too bad he doesn't recognize sarcasm when it's staring him in the face.
> Would a sane sysadmin let any luser get the root passwords to his systems? > Now would you let any of those lusers carry a gun?
Yes, 'cause lusers that they are, if they tried to shoot me, they'd hit their own foot. I'd have plenty of time to draw my own and defend myself.
It's a win/win situation. One less luser for me and the rest of the world to deal with and one more luser put out of their misery.
OTOH, since the world is filled with lusers who can't handle root, and a few nasty hackers that steal root and use it for criminal acts, why don't we require all admins to register their root passwords with the feds? Wouldn't that be great? It sure would stop all those hackers from stealing and abusing root wouldn't it. Or, since lusers can't handle root, why don't we ban root all together and just let everyone have *equal* access to the systems. Can't have any discrimination or heaven forbid a *digital divide* of access privileges that are reserved for the elite can we?
Just use an old door. The hole where the doorknob was makes a nifty place to route cables and still be able to have the "desk" or table right up against the wall. Spend a little time sanding and finishing and it will look fine. Build any kind of legs that you like. I used scraps from various area construction jobs.
I have basically just a big table built just like this. One pc is sprawled all over the top(no case, just an anti-static mat, power supply, drives and such scattered all about. The "real" working box is underneath along with a 2-1/2 drawer file cabinet on casters. The table is set up along with the chair for optimal foot/leg/butt/keyboard height and the 19" monitor is on a separate riser shelf that was built from more of the scrap. There is still plenty of space for other stuff although a large chunk is usually taken up by a pizza box and a half dozen or so Coke cans.;-)
Total cost $0.00 plus elbow grease, scrounge time, and gas to go and get the stuff.
Once you get your basic system together and working properly, make a backup copy and a quick and dirty method of re-installing it. That is, a boot floppy with tape/zip drivers, a second/spare disk partition, burn a CD, or whatever. Then you can start fiddling with(aka improving) it without worry.
Many other factors come into play. Are design tools available? How about proper software tools like compilers, debuggers, and emulators? Reference designs? EDA components for circuit design and simulation? What is the cost per part per assembled unit? Power consumption and heat? Type of package? Is there a ready, preferably multiple sourced, supply of parts? Are there any engineers around that have some clue about how to make it work?
For mass market production levels, cost is (almost) everything.
Coolness does tend to draw attention, but early on, that's about all any new part will get.
That is, shut down the cell handoff protocol, and modify the cell software that compensates for motion. That way calls will be brief(in one cell only) and if you are moving the sound quality will be even worse.
Easy enough to make cell calls while in motion too annoying to be worth it. Note that these changes have no effect on drivers that pull off to the side of the road for the duration of the call.
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This feature of the universe "information" is one of the things that is still puzzling physics folk about black holes.
> The Mandelbrot Set just is.
Indeed, and so is any odd hydrogen atom until it falls across an event horizon. Then it is not, and that is the problem. According to current theory, the information about what fell in is lost. IF we watch a BH from its creation onward we can say X atoms of hydrogen, Y atoms of helium, etc. fell in - sooooo this BH is made up of those items. OTOH, if we watch one evaporate, we cannot determine what fell in. The features, composition, all the information about the matter and energy that was, no longer is.
All that is conserved by a BH is mass, charge, and angular momentum. Wouldn't it be odd if those "informational" items are all that really "matter"?
...is certainly different. If you release, or distribute someone else's code with yours, then certainly you have to abide by their license.
Fortunately, java doesn't have that problem.
Something is missing here:
>...big company is supporting a BSD based OS rather than a linux one.
> And that is better since we can then use it as a development platform
I'm not sure what your misconceptions are, but whether it's BSD or Linux does not matter one bit to me as far as development is concerned.
> (remember, even Microsft is better for development, from a licencing point of view,
> since one can create proprietary products, not be obliged to give out source etc.)
Huh? Your only qualification for a development platform is the license? What about reliability? Ease of use? Cost? WinXX is better than what, doing what kind of development for what target?
Anyway, there is no difference in the restrictions on licenses for code that you develop between BSD and Linux. The license for code that you create is up to you. Where are you coming from?
>But then you don't use linux to develop anything but linux, do you?
Your bias is showing, as well as your ignorance. Actually, I use Linux to develop java apps for both server and client side. Can you guess where they run?
>whereas the rest of us use an OS to get a job done
Haha, you must be counting crashes, or megabytes per dialog window or something, or perhaps you are just counting the dollars in M$ bank account. The rest of us use linux as file servers, web servers, firewalls, dial-in access servers, and yes java development workstations. We have one box here that multi-boots w9x, wNT(actually, it boots whatever the latest-and-Greatest-at-the-moment M$ concoction is) just so that we can check out our apps in ie(we've spent more money on software that we really don't ever use for that one box...).
Somewhat OT, but interesting...I discovered an odd benchmark the other day. My Dell Inspiron 433MHz celeron laptop with redhat is 20% faster at the seti@home client than the 600MHz P3 Dell Optiplex workstation running the seti client under NT4+.
...or was the AC just trolling?
MOST of what is in a linux distro is not the kernel. Most of the GPL'd software in any distro is the tool sets such as bash, gcc, etc. Many of these tools are also available and used by BSD based distros.
So it would take much more than simply replacing the kernel of a linux distro to produce a GPL-free release.
Read some books and stop watching tv.
The US pres doesn't set the budget for the US gov. The Congress does. All the pres gets to do is propose a budget, just as any citizen can do and which the congress is completely free to ignore. Which they usually do. Other than that, all the pres gets to do is face lots of cameras and microphones and talk about how good his budget is and how bad Congress is.
After the budget is passed by Congress, all the pres gets to do is sign it or not.
Ignoring your condescending attitude I'll just respond.
From your interpretation of the dictionary:
>2. Failure to win. That seems to speak pretty clearly to me.
From RtA:
>The independence of Texas was won !
I guess we can argue about tactical losses or sacrifices and strategic victories, or heroic battles that can be regarded as such by both the victors and the losers. We can even get down to the details and discuss the loss, failure, or defeat of the nine Texans that were killed at San Jacinto; or we can discuss the victory or success that was won in part by their loss.
Isn't the English language wonderful?
Do you measure success or failure only by life or death? Did those men captured by SH and his army at SJ succeed because they survived? There are many ways to measure success, one that you have not brought up is the kill ratio. How many of the Mexican army that attacked the Alamo were in one way or another put out of action by the men that were defending the Alamo?
At the Alamo, the Texans fought well, as did the Mexicans. Considering the fact that the Alamo is remembered, and how important memories can be to morale and motivation, I'd have to consider the Alamo to be a success, not a source of embarrassment to either side. Certainly if the Mexicans had succeeded in suppressing the Texan uprising, then the memory or history records of what happened at the Alamo would not in any way, shape or form resemble what we think and read today.
What is/was embarrassing about the Alamo? It was certainly a heroic defeat, but not a failure.
What does it have to do with US history, except for the fact that Texas is now part of the US? The only memorable things that happened at the Alamo, happened well before Texas joined the US. So from a cultural or national perspective(not as individuals) who in the US, and not of Texas, cares enough to be embarrassed?
Round numbers help, but 2m/sec is not far off. It is easy to take two steps, aka 1 full stride, which for me is about 6 feet in one second. Try taking ten strides, or twenty steps at a normal walking pace while watching a clock.
BTW, what does this have to do with teaching kids and reality?
Other than that, I know for sure it does not take anywhere near half a minute to make it to the bathroom from here and it is more than 60 feet away. So, some pedestrian designers must assume Grandma and a walker or the equivalent. BTW, when was the last time that you saw someone moving at a 2ft/sec.(crawl) bang their shin?
Try banging your shin against a coffee table.
Lessee...assume walking speed of about 2 meters per second...assume table is fixed and does not flex...assume leg/foot speed is 2x walking speed as it is coming forward in your stride...assume skin on shin is 2mm thick and will deform completely upon impact.
Accelleration = change in velocity / change in time.
A = (4m/sec - 0m/sec) / (2m/1000 / 4m/sec)
A = 4m/sec / 0.0005sec
A = 8000m/sec/sec
1G = 9.8 m/sec
Soooo
Ag = 8000m/sec/sec / 9.8 m/sec/sec = 816G on your shin. No wonder it hurts!
OK, so you have to run into the table to get up to 1500G, BFD.
Just use your example as an example:
...if somebody has me agree that I will not sue them if they attack me,
>
> and then sneaks into my house and attacks me...
Compare these two: "sexual assault" and "fun with your SO".
The only LEGAL difference is that in one case the two parties involved agreed to the activity, and in the other they did not. Notice that a written, notarized contract is not required, nor is an explicit verbal agreement.
...if you haven't "figured" it out yet, girls are truly chaotic. It doesn't matter if you use 8/16/32/64... whatever number of bits in your calculations.
Sometimes you can predict their behavior for a short time into the future, but at other times, or for any real distance into the future the resolution of your predictions becomes so poor as to be useless.
Even if the quality of your input data was ideal down to the quantum level, your GF-model will still have to deal with Heisenberg and after him, you'll have to deal with your GF-real who's mad at you for some reason(spending so much time on that silly computer program, perhaps?).
APOGEE SUCKS WELL!!!
Or...
APOGEE SUCKS REALLY REALLY WELL!!!
In fact, they suck so well that you can hardly stand up at the same time.
Or...
This game XYZ by Apogee sucks so well that you can't even sit still in front of your PC while playing with yourself.
>...the owner of the house enjoys a tax break that helps defer the interest on the mortgage loan, the renter pays exorbitant rental fees. These fees are in no way tax deductible, and we end up with a class of people who can only rent.
.. what are you going to do about it?
No, we end up with a bunch of individuals that choose to rent, and choose to rent again, and even when presented with the evidence that ownership has advantages over rental they do not change their minds or their behavior and continue to rent.
>Unfair? yes.
No. It's simply the reality of a pseudo-free market and a bunch of lazy whiners.
>So
Why the obvious thing of course. Do what I did:
Bite the bullet. Don't spend your money on new car payments. Don't eat out. Take your lunch to work with you. Don't make any more kids. Don't waste your bucks on dates. Go to school in the evening(since you are not out chasing babes you've got the time). Do your own laundry. Use a secured credit card to buy stuff THAT YOU CAN AFFORD. Make your payments ON TIME. Pay it off. Save some money. Establish a good credit record. Get another credit card. Use it. Pay it off. All while saving up 10% for a downpayment then go buy a place.
IOW, get with the program.
After 2-5 years of honest, focused effort: TaDa! Problem solved. Next question please?
for his own good.
;-)
>5000 sq ft is a grocery store (500 X 100).
Not quite, do the arithmetic!
...The legaleeze anyway. What good is some disclaimer that says unauthorized access is, well, unauthorized??!?!? That's a laugh. I put a lock on my door(password) and then have to post a sign that says something like "Breaking this lock and entering this house(computer) is illegal" in order to prosecute the crook?!?! Really, I'm cracking up. Just ask Kevin Mitnick if you think this is legit.
Anyway, lot's of good that warning note will do for you as you try to prosecute a cracker that has attacked your machine from his home in Khazakstan.
The Digital/Compaq compiler for True64 Unix called ccc is MUCH better and has been released along with libraries for use on Linux boxes. There are still some problems compiling code that was written for gcc, but there are workarounds.
Read some of the alpha/axp newsgroups for more info.
Heh, consider this:
:-(
[marcus@earth marcus]$ uptime
10:44pm up 331 days, 9:55, 6 users, load average: 0.14, 0.05, 0.01
[marcus@earth marcus]$ uname -a
Linux earth 2.2.5 #3 Sun May 30 13:10:30 CDT 1999 alpha unknown
That's an OLD alpha axppci33(266MHz, 256K cache, 64MB RAM, 6GB of disks) that does qmail, 2 apache servers(one being a devel/demo of java servlets), leafnode, ftpd, local DNS, PPP on three dial-in lines plus firewalling and masquerade for 6 boxes on the local LAN and the dial-ins 24/7 and obviously working on that 365 part. Its plenty fast as there is no problem saturating the 10Mb ethernet with apache(raw files) or ftpd.
Total cost of about $550.00.
Since the ADSL line is about to arrive, I'm going to have to take it down to add another NIC.
No, it does not run X, Netscape, nor any "office" software. Consumer platform? No, it's flawless just as it is.
Lots of our(the world's) problems would be solved if people would just talk to each other rather than talking to lawyers, or politicians, OR pulling out a weapon.
>I like naïveté when I see it...
Too bad he doesn't recognize sarcasm when it's staring him in the face.
> Would a sane sysadmin let any luser get the root passwords to his systems?
> Now would you let any of those lusers carry a gun?
Yes, 'cause lusers that they are, if they tried to shoot me, they'd hit their own foot. I'd have plenty of time to draw my own and defend myself.
It's a win/win situation. One less luser for me and the rest of the world to deal with and one more luser put out of their misery.
OTOH, since the world is filled with lusers who can't handle root, and a few nasty hackers that steal root and use it for criminal acts, why don't we require all admins to register their root passwords with the feds? Wouldn't that be great? It sure would stop all those hackers from stealing and abusing root wouldn't it. Or, since lusers can't handle root, why don't we ban root all together and just let everyone have *equal* access to the systems. Can't have any discrimination or heaven forbid a *digital divide* of access privileges that are reserved for the elite can we?
Just use an old door. The hole where the doorknob was makes a nifty place to route cables and still be able to have the "desk" or table right up against the wall. Spend a little time sanding and finishing and it will look fine. Build any kind of legs that you like. I used scraps from various area construction jobs.
;-)
I have basically just a big table built just like this. One pc is sprawled all over the top(no case, just an anti-static mat, power supply, drives and such scattered all about. The "real" working box is underneath along with a 2-1/2 drawer file cabinet on casters. The table is set up along with the chair for optimal foot/leg/butt/keyboard height and the 19" monitor is on a separate riser shelf that was built from more of the scrap. There is still plenty of space for other stuff although a large chunk is usually taken up by a pizza box and a half dozen or so Coke cans.
Total cost $0.00 plus elbow grease, scrounge time, and gas to go and get the stuff.
That's an impressive post.
Be sure to make a copy!
Once you get your basic system together and working properly, make a backup copy and a quick and dirty method of re-installing it. That is, a boot floppy with tape/zip drivers, a second/spare disk partition, burn a CD, or whatever. Then you can start fiddling with(aka improving) it without worry.
Many other factors come into play. Are design tools available? How about proper software tools like compilers, debuggers, and emulators? Reference designs? EDA components for circuit design and simulation? What is the cost per part per assembled unit? Power consumption and heat? Type of package? Is there a ready, preferably multiple sourced, supply of parts? Are there any engineers around that have some clue about how to make it work?
For mass market production levels, cost is (almost) everything.
Coolness does tend to draw attention, but early on, that's about all any new part will get.
That is, shut down the cell handoff protocol, and modify the cell software that compensates for motion. That way calls will be brief(in one cell only) and if you are moving the sound quality will be even worse.
Easy enough to make cell calls while in motion too annoying to be worth it. Note that these changes have no effect on drivers that pull off to the side of the road for the duration of the call.