This rumour has been abounding for a while, I'm just wondering whether it is simply self-perpetuating. I'd wait a while before considering the matter any further.
1. I want to see Linux succeed. 2. Office on Linux would be a step into making it a viable desktop for corporate users. 3. Microsoft would effectively be agreeing to play with Linux rather than try to kill it off.
Cons:
1. Microsoft could save their skin doing this. 2. Microsoft's life would be prolonged. 3. I'd have some microsoft logo on my PC again *sigh*
well. I'm no fan of RedHat, but they've built a system, which, at this moment in time, is the closest thing to an Operating System that an ordinary user can install and use the Linux kernel.
For this, I take my Slackware Hat off to them.
I don't think there will be a backlash, I don't entirely like RedHat, but it has a place in the Linux community, specifically as an entry point.
I think that a healthy core of users will install other distributions and move away from RedHat once they know their way round Linux. Some will also be happy with RedHat as is.
We also have to ask what motivates the other distributions to continue, they emerged from the dark ages of Linux where there were only a few users per distribution and they have had their piece of cake and growth.
Again these distributions are esentially free, sure some make money through packaging and documentation, but the system itself is essentially free, I just can't see how RedHat can position themselves into a monopoly given this fact. There is no direct analogy with corporations such as Microsoft in this respect.
I let potential employers know what I'm on, but I'm not going to take a job for anything less than what I want.
If my current salary was uncompetitive - then there might be an issue - but I tend to change jobs (or at least threaten to) if my salary begins to become uncompetitive.
Just to let you guys know that although this is about a Microsoft product, it does not imply that I think the Microsoft Product is useful for the purpose described.
We've implemented and are continuing to implement thin clients instead of PCs. "Windows Terminal Server" - all very fine: the clients are nice little modified Tektronix X terminals, and very stable.
One problem is that the Terminal Server(s) is/are just glorified souped-up PCs and when they go down, everyone goes down.
There are various problems, mostly arising from the fact that we're trying to run applications designed for use on PCs on non-PCs and also that we're trying to run a Thin Client server on a server system which was not originally designed with Thin Clients in mind.
There are benefits though, we only need to install most applications once and everybody gets access to those applications.
We will soon be setting up a remote office at which point the Thin Client could well come into it's own - being able to run applications over a low bandwidth link where the user gets the impression of fast access to our local network.
I am sure that the PCs market share will be diminished by these types of clients in the near future. To what extent... that is anybodies guess.
Absolutly! I used to work for the UK office of a Taiwanese Company, you may have heard of them "Genius" - It was necessary to use an incredible amount of tact to put over to head office in Taipei the changes in IC design that were required. There was always the temptation to lose it and basicly say outright that they were all thick and stupid and made silly mistakes etc.. etc.. but that wouldn't solve the problem.
I know the Taiwanese aren't Japanese and that the two countries aren't fond of each other either, but there is a certain part of East Asian culture which basicaly says it's pointless shouting at somebody to help you.
I happen to be thinking about buying a laptop to run Linux on at the moment. I do have a Palm III and while prior to this discussion I hadn't considered connecting it's IR device with a Laptop's it does make sense. If another manufacturer's can be made to work in this way then obviously they will have an advantage over Toshiba.
If Toshiba reckon that the Linux market is too small to release data sheets on their iRDA compared against a loss that they "could" stand to rival manufacturers knowing how their technology functions then that is their decision. It does baffle me though, as many other manufacturers seem to be targeting the domestic Japanese markets with Linux related "advances".
Slashdot Mirror
hmmm....
This rumour has been abounding for a while, I'm just wondering whether it is simply self-perpetuating. I'd wait a while before considering the matter any further.
OK -
Pros:
1. I want to see Linux succeed.
2. Office on Linux would be a step into making it a viable desktop for corporate users.
3. Microsoft would effectively be agreeing to play with Linux rather than try to kill it off.
Cons:
1. Microsoft could save their skin doing this.
2. Microsoft's life would be prolonged.
3. I'd have some microsoft logo on my PC again *sigh*
well. I'm no fan of RedHat, but they've built a system, which, at this moment in time, is the closest thing to an Operating System that an ordinary user can install and use the Linux kernel.
For this, I take my Slackware Hat off to them.
I don't think there will be a backlash, I don't entirely like RedHat, but it has a place in the Linux community, specifically as an entry point.
I think that a healthy core of users will install other distributions and move away from RedHat once they know their way round Linux. Some will also be happy with RedHat as is.
We also have to ask what motivates the other distributions to continue, they emerged from the dark ages of Linux where there were only a few users per distribution and they have had their piece of cake and growth.
Again these distributions are esentially free, sure some make money through packaging and documentation, but the system itself is essentially free, I just can't see how RedHat can position themselves into a monopoly given this fact. There is no direct analogy with corporations such as Microsoft in this respect.
maybe I'm missing yours... :->
Let's agree to differ!!
This is a significant example of the power that we collectively wield through slashdot.
:-O
Could Toshiba consider our action as a web attack on their servers?
Is there anybody else we can hit on similar issues, I like having the feeling of power
Nah - Anon Cow,
Check the bottom "Update March 3rd" Toshiba have provided the info after all.
I wasn't nasty, but I certainly contronted them on this issue.
When's the next "LinuxWorld"ish conference? Is there one somewhere in Europe?
I wouldn't mind attending, but the US is so far away.
I let potential employers know what I'm on, but I'm not going to take a job for anything less than what I want.
If my current salary was uncompetitive - then there might be an issue - but I tend to change jobs (or at least threaten to) if my salary begins to become uncompetitive.
Just to let you guys know that although this is about a Microsoft product, it does not imply that I think the Microsoft Product is useful for the purpose described.
We've implemented and are continuing to implement thin clients instead of PCs. "Windows Terminal Server" - all very fine: the clients are nice little modified Tektronix X terminals, and very stable.
One problem is that the Terminal Server(s) is/are just glorified souped-up PCs and when they go down, everyone goes down.
There are various problems, mostly arising from the fact that we're trying to run applications designed for use on PCs on non-PCs and also that we're trying to run a Thin Client server on a server system which was not originally designed with Thin Clients in mind.
There are benefits though, we only need to install most applications once and everybody gets access to those applications.
We will soon be setting up a remote office at which point the Thin Client could well come into it's own - being able to run applications over a low bandwidth link where the user gets the impression of fast access to our local network.
I am sure that the PCs market share will be diminished by these types of clients in the near future. To what extent... that is anybodies guess.
Actually I'm wrong here - It doesn't look like the bandwidth is being used up. It looks like they need some more meaty servers on the Linux Counter??
Absolutly! I used to work for the UK office of a Taiwanese Company, you may have heard of them "Genius" - It was necessary to use an incredible amount of tact to put over to head office in Taipei the changes in IC design that were required. There was always the temptation to lose it and basicly say outright that they were all thick and stupid and made silly mistakes etc.. etc.. but that wouldn't solve the problem.
I know the Taiwanese aren't Japanese and that the two countries aren't fond of each other either, but there is a certain part of East Asian culture which basicaly says it's pointless shouting at somebody to help you.
I happen to be thinking about buying a laptop to run Linux on at the moment. I do have a Palm III and while prior to this discussion I hadn't considered connecting it's IR device with a Laptop's it does make sense. If another manufacturer's can be made to work in this way then obviously they will have an advantage over Toshiba.
If Toshiba reckon that the Linux market is too small to release data sheets on their iRDA compared against a loss that they "could" stand to rival manufacturers knowing how their technology functions then that is their decision. It does baffle me though, as many other manufacturers seem to be targeting the domestic Japanese markets with Linux related "advances".