Many have been led to believe that it is easy to point out fatal errors in Creationism and that Evolution is an air-tight case. Many of them also believe that Creationists are hopelessly ignorant. I find that when I prove otherwise to them, it is a major shock to their sense of well-being, shaking their most basic beliefs, perhaps for the first time in their lives.
Jesus Christ himself was despised and rejected of men. We believe the creation message to be the truth. Whether or not it looks good in the eyes of men does not matter. I am certain that if Jesus Christ were to appear before a panel of scientists, he would not adjust his answers to appear scientific; he would speak the truth. "For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness, but unto us which are saved, it is the power of God" (I Cor. 1:18).
In other words, your faith is not evidence. Why don't you go away.
1 Pet.3:15 But sanctify the Lord God in you hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:
The open hostility the members of this board show any Christian (flamebait???), is similar to the scientific community's hatred of Christianity (or God, for that matter).
You seem to equate science and education with rejecting God. I like to look at things differently, and believe quite the opposite.
Science cannot discover absolute truth because science is always changing, and any scientific finding or theory may be discarded or revised tomorrow or a hundred years from now. All scientific observations and theories must be open to criticism and to possible correction or rejection. No scientific theory should be protected from criticism, because it may some day be proved to be wrong. This is the central policy of the scientific method.
Do you fear that your scientist's conjectures would not stand up to any criticisms? Rightfully so! For much of their "science" has ben refuted over the years!
In 1956 W.R. Thompson, a Canadian entomologist (entomology - study of insects) of international repute, wrote in his introduction to the centennial edition of Darwin's Origin, "...Darwin did not show in the Origin that species had originated by natural selection; he merely showed, on the basis of certain facts and assumptions, how this might have happened, and as he had convinced himself he was able to convince others."
But because I disagree with you, I should leave? Is that your way of thinking?
... If your reading comprehension was a little more developed, you would see I was blaming the catholics for the unjust persecution of Galileo and Copernicus (as well as many other atrocities), and then gave the reasons why they were at fault.
... But the fact remains, evolution is ONLY a theory (one with many holes, at that). Those who would claim it as fact are doing so on FAITH (just as I believe, through faith, in creation) and whatever evidence may lean their way.
I disagree with it being taught in public schools, as FACT.
The pentecostals are another cult which has grossly misinterpreted the Gospel. I believe in the inerrancy of Scripture and that we are Saved by grace through faith in the Lord, Jesus Christ.
Please, do not blame True Christians for their over-sight and corruption of Scripture.
With regards to Galil, the Roman Church made many mistakes:
1. The Church leaders had accepted as dogma the belief system of the pagan (i.e. non-Christian) philosophers, Aristotle and Ptolemy, which had become the world view of the then scientific establishment. The result was that Church leaders were using the knowledge of the day to interpret Scripture, instead of using the Bible to evaluate the knowledge of the day.
2. They clung to the "majority opinion" about the universe and rejected the "minority view" of Copernicus and Galileo, even after Galileo had presented indisputable evidence based on repeatable scientific observations that the majority was wrong.
3. They picked out a few verses from the Bible which they thought said that the sun moved around the Earth, but they failed to realize that Bible texts must be understood in terms of what the author intended to convey. Thus, when Moses wrote of the 'risen' sun (Genesis 19:23) and sun 'set' (Genesis 28:4), his purpose was not to formulate an astronomical dictum. Rather he, by God's spirit, was using the language of appearance so that his readers would easily understand what time of day he was talking about. And it is perfectly valid in physics to describe motion relative to the most convient reference frame, which in this case is the earth.
Do not lump all denominations together. It is a mistake to do do.
As a founder of my own online community, I have dealt with many of the advantages and disadvantages of online communities. The world wide web is a great tool for reaching out to people. What better way to reach out to the lost than through chat rooms?
I have made great use of "CYBER TRACTS" and have met with a pretty good deal of success with them. Many people from around the world have visited my various online ministries and I know this internet can indeed be a blessing.
However, there ARE plenty of disadvatages. It seems there are a lot of trouble makers online who make it their goal to merely deface anything they can get their virtual claws on. People seem to be much more comfortable with baseless insults than they are in face to face relations and losing sites can be a thorn in one's side. I myself have lost over three ministries due to persecution and hatred. This makes it difficult for visitors to keep up with all the new locations!
All the more reason to still emphasize the real thing, real church communities! Get to them online, by all means... but be sure to get them in a real, brick and mortar church by the time you are through with them. That's what I say.
Even if you're not called to 'the ministry', you can still make a difference for Christ by just being you. We all have our gifts-- Use them to God's glory! You may be able to reach out to certain people that professional ministers may not be able to 'connect' with.
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I do not wear Nikes, or any clothes from the GAP. Communists are communists.
I do not buy chinese products, and I encourage others to do the same. Write your congressmen as well... this is not somethign to be taken lightly.
... Quite telling.
Many have been led to believe that it is easy to point out fatal errors in Creationism and that Evolution is an air-tight case. Many of them also believe that Creationists are hopelessly ignorant. I find that when I prove otherwise to them, it is a major shock to their sense of well-being, shaking their most basic beliefs, perhaps for the first time in their lives.
Jesus Christ himself was despised and rejected of men. We believe the creation message to be the truth. Whether or not it looks good in the eyes of men does not matter. I am certain that if Jesus Christ were to appear before a panel of scientists, he would not adjust his answers to appear scientific; he would speak the truth. "For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness, but unto us which are saved, it is the power of God" (I Cor. 1:18).
In other words, your faith is not evidence. Why don't you go away.
... Not I.
1 Pet.3:15
But sanctify the Lord God in you hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:
The open hostility the members of this board show any Christian (flamebait???), is similar to the scientific community's hatred of Christianity (or God, for that matter).
You seem to equate science and education with rejecting God. I like to look at things differently, and believe quite the opposite.
Science cannot discover absolute truth because science is always changing, and any scientific finding or theory may be discarded or revised tomorrow or a hundred years from now. All scientific observations and theories must be open to criticism and to possible correction or rejection. No scientific theory should be protected from criticism, because it may some day be proved to be wrong. This is the central policy of the scientific method.
Do you fear that your scientist's conjectures would not stand up to any criticisms? Rightfully so! For much of their "science" has ben refuted over the years!
In 1956 W.R. Thompson, a Canadian entomologist (entomology - study of insects) of international repute, wrote in his introduction to the centennial edition of Darwin's Origin, "...Darwin did not show in the Origin that species had originated by natural selection; he merely showed, on the basis of certain facts and assumptions, how this might have happened, and as he had convinced himself he was able to convince others."
But because I disagree with you, I should leave? Is that your way of thinking?
... If your reading comprehension was a little more developed, you would see I was blaming the catholics for the unjust persecution of Galileo and Copernicus (as well as many other atrocities), and then gave the reasons why they were at fault.
Try again.
... But the fact remains, evolution is ONLY a theory (one with many holes, at that). Those who would claim it as fact are doing so on FAITH (just as I believe, through faith, in creation) and whatever evidence may lean their way.
I disagree with it being taught in public schools, as FACT.
Perhaps it is you who should step outside. Outside of the binds of secular society. There is more than this world, my son --- I wish you could see it!
No, in fact... I am not a pentecostal.
The pentecostals are another cult which has grossly misinterpreted the Gospel. I believe in the inerrancy of Scripture and that we are Saved by grace through faith in the Lord, Jesus Christ.
Does that deserve your mocking, as well?
Please, do not blame True Christians for their over-sight and corruption of Scripture.
With regards to Galil, the Roman Church made many mistakes:
1. The Church leaders had accepted as dogma the belief system of the pagan (i.e. non-Christian) philosophers, Aristotle and Ptolemy, which had become the world view of the then scientific establishment. The result was that Church leaders were using the knowledge of the day to interpret Scripture, instead of using the Bible to evaluate the knowledge of the day.
2. They clung to the "majority opinion" about the universe and rejected the "minority view" of Copernicus and Galileo, even after Galileo had presented indisputable evidence based on repeatable scientific observations that the majority was wrong.
3. They picked out a few verses from the Bible which they thought said that the sun moved around the Earth, but they failed to realize that Bible texts must be understood in terms of what the author intended to convey. Thus, when Moses wrote of the 'risen' sun (Genesis 19:23) and sun 'set' (Genesis 28:4), his purpose was not to formulate an astronomical dictum. Rather he, by God's spirit, was using the language of appearance so that his readers would easily understand what time of day he was talking about. And it is perfectly valid in physics to describe motion relative to the most convient reference frame, which in this case is the earth.
Do not lump all denominations together. It is a mistake to do do.
As a founder of my own online community, I have dealt with many of the advantages and disadvantages of online communities. The world wide web is a great tool for reaching out to people. What better way to reach out to the lost than through chat rooms?
I have made great use of "CYBER TRACTS" and have met with a pretty good deal of success with them. Many people from around the world have visited my various online ministries and I know this internet can indeed be a blessing.
However, there ARE plenty of disadvatages. It seems there are a lot of trouble makers online who make it their goal to merely deface anything they can get their virtual claws on. People seem to be much more comfortable with baseless insults than they are in face to face relations and losing sites can be a thorn in one's side. I myself have lost over three ministries due to persecution and hatred. This makes it difficult for visitors to keep up with all the new locations!
All the more reason to still emphasize the real thing, real church communities! Get to them online, by all means... but be sure to get them in a real, brick and mortar church by the time you are through with them. That's what I say.
Even if you're not called to 'the ministry', you can still make a difference for Christ by just being you. We all have our gifts-- Use them to God's glory! You may be able to reach out to certain people that professional ministers may not be able to 'connect' with.