Well, I've been a debian user for a couple of years, and tried unstable a few times... everytime I ran screaming back to stable.
I think unstable is just a bit "oversold" by the debian developer community. It is nice to have the latest versions of things, but unless your are a programmer or debian developer you'll probably just let your machine sit there broken until the packagers figure out the bugs.
As for me I'm quite happy using stable with bits here and there from unofficial sources. This seems to work out a lot better for me. Everytime I did unstable it was a nightmare, but I'm still willing to concede it might have just been bad luck/timing.
Don't you all remember the pre-napster days? searching for ftp sites, etc. It was a pain in the ass. Then napster came along and made it easy.
Now it's a pain in the ass again.
Something else will come along. It's too big now. The only difference is now it will be done right (no corps involved and there must be no one to sue). Gnutella looks like a good replacement. If we could only get it working right.
IF ONE FICTIONAL FIGURE can be said to have dominated the popcult of the
eighties, it was the Cop. Fuckin' police ev- erywhere you turned, worse than real
life. What an incredible bore.
Powerful Cops--protecting the meek and humble--at the expense of a half-dozen
or so articles of the Bill of Rights- -"Dirty Harry." Nice human cops, coping with
human perversity, coming out sweet 'n' sour, you know, gruff & knowing but still
soft inside--Hill Street Blues--most evil TV show ever. Wiseass black cops scoring
witty racist remarks against hick white cops, who nevertheless come to love each
other--Eddie Murphy, Class Traitor. For that masochist thrill we got wicked bent
cops who threaten to topple our Kozy Konsensus Reality from within like Giger-
designed tapeworms, but naturally get blown away just in the nick of time by the
Last Honest Cop, Robocop, ideal amalgam of prosthesis and sentimentality.
We've been obsessed with cops since the beginning--but the rozzers of yore
played bumbling fools, Keystone Kops, Car 54 Where Are You, booby-bobbies set
up for Fatty Arbuckle or Buster Keaton to squash & deflate. But in the ideal drama
of the eighties, the "little man" who once scattered bluebottles by the hundred
with that anarchist's bomb, innocently used to light a cigarette--the Tramp, the
victim with the sudden power of the pure heart--no longer has a place at the
center of narrative. Once "we" were that hobo, that quasi-surrealist chaote hero
who wins thru wu- wei over the ludicrous minions of a despised & irrelevant Order.
But now "we" are reduced to the status of victims without power, or else criminals.
"We" no longer occupy that central role; no longer the heros of our own stories,
we've been marginalized & replaced by the Other, the Cop.
Thus the Cop Show has only three characters--victim, criminal, and
policeperson--but the first two fail to be fully human--only the pig is real. Oddly
enough, human society in the eighties (as seen in the other media) sometimes
appeared to consist of the same three cliche/archetypes. First the victims, the
whining minorities bitching about "rights"--and who pray tell did not belong to a
"minority" in the eighties? Shit, even cops complained about their "rights" being
abused. Then the criminals: largely non-white (despite the obligatory &
hallucinatory "integration" of the media), largely poor (or else obscenely rich, hence
even more alien), largely perverse (i.e. the forbidden mirrors of "our" desires). I've
heard that one out of four households in America is robbed every year, & that
every year nearly half a million of us are arrested just for smoking pot. In the face
of such statistics (even assuming they're "damned lies") one wonders who is NOT
either victim or criminal in our police-state-of-consciousness. The fuzz must
mediate for all of us, however fuzzy the interface-- they're only warrior-priests,
however profane. America's Most Wanted--the most successful TV game show of
the eighties--opened up for all of us the role of Amateur Cop, hitherto merely a
media fantasy of middleclass resentment & revenge. Naturally the truelife Cop
hates no one so much as the vigilante--look what happens to poor &/or non-white
neighborhood self-protection groups like the Muslims who tried to eliminate crack
dealing in Brooklyn: the cops busted the Muslims, the pushers went free. Real
vigilantes threaten the monopoly of enforcement, lÉse majest, more abominable
than incest or murder. But media(ted) vigilantes function perfectly within the
CopState; in fact, it would be more accurate to think of them as unpaid (not even
a set of matched luggage!) informers: telemetric snitches, electro-stoolies,
ratfinks- for-a-day.
What is it that "America most wants"? Does this phrase refer to criminals--or to
crimes, to objects of desire in their real presence, unrepresented, unmediated,
literally stolen & appropriated? America most wants...to fuck off work, ditch the
spouse, do drugs (because only drugs make you feel as good as the people in TV
ads appear to be), have sex with nubile jailbait, sodomy, burglary, hell yes. What
unmediated pleasures are NOT illegal? Even outdoor barbecues violate smoke
ordinances nowadays. The simplest enjoyments turn us against some law; finally
pleasure becomes too stress- inducing, and only TV remains--and the pleasure of
revenge, vicarious betrayal, the sick thrill of the tattletale. America can't have
what it most wants, so it has America's Most Wanted instead. A nation of
schoolyard toadies sucking up to an elite of schoolyard bullies.
Of course the program still suffers from a few strange reality-glitches: for example,
the dramatized segments are enacted cinema verit style by actors; some viewers
are so stupid they believe they're seeing actual footage of real crimes. Hence the
actors are being continually harassed & even arrested, along with (or instead of)
the real criminals whose mugshots are flashed after each little documentoid. How
quaint, eh? No one really experiences anything--everyone reduced to the status of
ghosts--media-images break off & float away from any contact with actual
everyday life-- PhoneSex--CyberSex. Final transcendence of the body:
cybergnosis.
The media cops, like televangelical forerunners, prepare us for the advent, final
coming or Rapture of the police state: the "Wars" on sex and drugs: total control
totally leached of all content; a map with no coordinates in any known space; far
beyond mere Spectacle; sheer ecstasy ("standing- outside-the-body"); obscene
simulacrum; meaningless violent spasms elevated to the last principle of
governance. Image of a country consumed by images of self-hatred, war between
the schizoid halves of a split personality, Super-Ego vs the Id Kid, for the
heavyweight championship of an abandoned landscape, burnt, polluted, empty,
desolate, unreal. Just as the murder-mystery is always an exercise in sadism, so
the cop-fiction always involves the contemplation of control. The image of the
inspector or detective measures the image of "our" lack of autonomous substance,
our transparency before the gaze of authority. Our perversity, our helplessness.
Whether we imagine them as "good" or "evil," our obsessive invocation of the
eidolons of the Cops reveals the extent to which we have accepted the
manichaean worldview they symbolize. Millions of tiny cops swarm everywhere, like
the qlippoth, larval hungry ghosts--they fill the screen, as in Keaton's famous
two-reeler, overwhelming the foreground, an Antarctic where nothing moves but
hordes of sinister blue penguins.
We propose an esoteric hermeneutical exegesis of the Surrealist slogan "Mort aux
vaches!" We take it to refer not to the deaths of individual cops ("cows" in the
argot of the period)--mere leftist revenge fantasy--petty reverse sadism--but
rather to the death of the image of the flic, the inner Control & its myriad
reflections in the NoPlace Place of the media--the "gray room" as Burroughs calls it.
Self-censorship, fear of one's own desires, "conscience" as the interiorized voice of
consensus- authority. To assassinate these "security forces" would indeed release
floods of libidinal energy, but not the violent running-amok predicted by the theory
of Law 'n' Order.
Nietzschean "self-overcoming" provides the principle of organization for the free
spirit (as also for anarchist society, at least in theory). In the police-state
personality, libidinal energy is dammed & diverted toward self-repression; any
threat to Control results in spasms of violence. In the free-spirit personality,
energy flows unimpeded & therefore turbulently but gently--its chaos finds its
strange attractor, allowing new spontaneous orders to emerge.
In this sense, then, we call for a boycott of the image of the Cop, & a moratorium
on its production in art. In this sense...
If you've never learned anything or had your life improved by a fictional or allegorical story, I feel very sorry for you.
Of course I have. But the christian story is, well, ugly. Christianity celebrates weakness, perversity and fear. Christian ethics is based in being weak; to be a good christian one has to follow orders. It is extremely sick. Compare this to ethics not tainted by christianity, such as Aristotle - for him being a good person revovled around being virtuous and strong. Mythologies of other cultures were a lot healthier.
Just because humans and apes are morphologically similar does not mean they are geneetically similar. Compare hyenas to dogs. Hyenas look like really ugly dogs, but they have no genetic commonality (I'm pretty sure). They are closer to bears from what I know.
The "process of creation" could be something quite similar to Darwin's evolution theory. The Biblical tale of Adam and Eve should be interpreted as "folklore".
So, in other words, the bible is only a metaphor. SO if it's not TRUE, then why even bother?
My stance? I don't care whether god exists or not. The whole question is irrelevant; it has no place in any discussion about ethics, existence or epistemology - because it isn't anything we can know. It's pointless, contemptible and stupid.
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"open source" people didn't come up with this, people have been seriously addressing property issues since the 19th century.
It's called "anarchism", and Debian is a pretty good example of how an anrcho-syndicalist organization would work, albeit a non-profit one (note that there is no reason why Debian should be non-profit). There are large (and very successful) syndicalist cooperatives in Europe, but very few in the US.
is the cost of anti virus software and forced upgrades. NAI has a total lock on this software market (I think within the last few years they have managed to buy every single anti virus package) and is utterly gouging everyone. Just understanding their licensing terms requires a legal team.
we need a good GPL's antivirus application to counter this. Actually if there was one NAI would go belly up overnight. The viruses themselves probably cause minimal damage.
I'm happy to say I am anti-homosexual in the sense that I oppose practicing homosexuality
So why do you oppose it? There is no rational basis for this. If someone's happiness depends on practicing homosexuality (the case for all gay people), then what can be wrong with it?
The only people to oppose homosexuality are religious morons and the repressed.
[Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver][SQL Server]
Can't allocate space for object 'queryHistory' in database 'web' because the 'default' segment is full.
That is a SQL error, and any rdbms would say the same, it's a matter of configuration, not reliability.
Charlton Heston didn't have the "foresight" to star in anything - he was paid. This guy is a moron. Charlton Heston isn't a national treasure, but Richard Stallman arguably is. Charlton Heston is a fucking actor. This guy is an absolute jackass. Besides which i hate republicans.
well, before I open my big mouth, I would like to know just how many millions of US taxpayers dollars are going into AIDS research so that some capitalist fuckwit can "own" the "intelletual property".
That is bullshit, and I wager it's not a small amount of our money. I'm sick of the government stealing my money and giving it to corporations.
CTRL-R in bash. bash has a very rich feature set with command history. check out the man page.
ksh and bash have all the features you could want. Unfortunately, commercial unix vendors ship everything as user hostile as possible, and ksh is totally unconfigured. Even Alan Cox posted a rant about hp sending a box with ksh, he had trouble with it. So I don't feel so bad.
Thanks to some HP/UX wizard son the linux hppa porting list I now have the HP/UX box believing that subnet zero is legal. I've downloaded large chunks of ftp.gnu.org and it is currently building enough to make the machine usable. It's amazing how much you miss -good- unix command line tools after you get used to Linux and the GNU ones. How Unix vendors can ship ancient shells with no job control and no cursor editing by default and still wonder why people buy NT is beyond me.
--Alan Cox
really... i tried solaris x86 just for shits and giggles, and when faced with a totally unconfigured ksh, I just gave up after a few days.I couldn't figure out how to set emacs editing mode to save my life. Same with BSD and that horrible csh.
No wonder unix was going down the tubes. who the hell is going to be able to figure this out as a newbie?
The only reason I cannot use mozilla for mail is they removed, like a pack of idiots, the "next" button from the message window. Communicator has this, why'd they take it out?
Stupidly enough, the "next" button is there in the main window (where it is redundant, if you're reading your mail in that double-pane view you don't need a "next message" button you just click on the message you want to read). If you're viewing the message in a separate window, there's no "next" button and no "next message" command. Even worse, if you ddouble click in the message list, it open a new window instead of using the previous on, and no option to "keep messages in same window" like 4.x has.
The software yahoo uses for it's mail system would be a complete drop in replacement for exchange, and can obviously handle huge loads. Obviously it runs on *nix.
Why don't they see that thing? Are they crazy, or is the code that much of a mess?
It seems to me they could bundle apache with their software and sell it as one big easy to install deal. they could even make a bsd or linux distro specifically for this purpose.
Could you offer some examples of these cooperatives that are outperforming other corporations? I look at the Fortune 500 and feel pretty confident none of them are cooperative work environments.
The Mondragon Cooperative (a very large one) is a famous example, there are others. Give me your mail and I can send you some more detailed info. There aren't any coops in the F500 because there aren't any that large... hell, do we really need corporations that large? The only thing most corporations that large do is remove local business opportunities for people and flood communities with shit jobs (e.g., Wal-Mart, Pepsico, et. al.) The coutry has turned into a minimum wage cesspool due to this.
The idea that a democrtically run enterprise is less efficient than a hierarchical one is a myth. The reason business people hate co-ops and unions is not because they're less efficient, it's because they lose control.
The reason most americans think democracy "can't work" is because they've never experienced it. I have just had it with morons whove never even attended a democratically run meeting bitching about how democracy can't work.
I have been to large meetings which were conducted by consensus style (decisions made unanimously) and meetings run with Robert's Rules (more complicated), and both work beautifully IF people know how to participate. Consensus style meetings can move along very quickly and the notion that they can't is mainly made by people who are just assuming that it wouldn't work.
Our workplaces might actually be enjoyable without a boss. IMO there is absolutely no need for heirarchy in the workplace.
This isn't anything new (look up anarcho-sydicalism), there are cooperatives now and ususally they outperform corporations, and their employees are a hell of a lot happier.
The laws favor corporations. Why?
The problem is americans are the most fucking brainwashed idiots in the world, who think they live in a democracy when they live in an iron fisted plutocracy.
the debian organization is just FINE the way it is. there isn't a single reason why debian cannot sell their distribution and distribute the profits among the developers.
Debian is essentially a non-profit syndicalist organization (whether their members know it or not). There isn't a single good reason why they should be non-profit.
Building a for-profit organization along the lines of a typical american heirarchical corporation isn't going to do anything for debian. No CEO's are needed.
There isn't any good reason why a for-profit organization cannot be democratically organized the way debian is - it's called a COOPERATIVE. The model they use has proven to be the best; they are the best linux distribution. Why not extend that into the economic realm? It works, and everyone involved is happier.
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Well, I've been a debian user for a couple of years, and tried unstable a few times ... everytime I ran screaming back to stable.
I think unstable is just a bit "oversold" by the debian developer community. It is nice to have the latest versions of things, but unless your are a programmer or debian developer you'll probably just let your machine sit there broken until the packagers figure out the bugs.
As for me I'm quite happy using stable with bits here and there from unofficial sources. This seems to work out a lot better for me. Everytime I did unstable it was a nightmare, but I'm still willing to concede it might have just been bad luck/timing.
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It might take a while.
Don't you all remember the pre-napster days? searching for ftp sites, etc. It was a pain in the ass. Then napster came along and made it easy.
Now it's a pain in the ass again.
Something else will come along. It's too big now. The only difference is now it will be done right (no corps involved and there must be no one to sue). Gnutella looks like a good replacement. If we could only get it working right.
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IF ONE FICTIONAL FIGURE can be said to have dominated the popcult of the eighties, it was the Cop. Fuckin' police ev- erywhere you turned, worse than real life. What an incredible bore.
Powerful Cops--protecting the meek and humble--at the expense of a half-dozen or so articles of the Bill of Rights- -"Dirty Harry." Nice human cops, coping with human perversity, coming out sweet 'n' sour, you know, gruff & knowing but still soft inside--Hill Street Blues--most evil TV show ever. Wiseass black cops scoring witty racist remarks against hick white cops, who nevertheless come to love each other--Eddie Murphy, Class Traitor. For that masochist thrill we got wicked bent cops who threaten to topple our Kozy Konsensus Reality from within like Giger- designed tapeworms, but naturally get blown away just in the nick of time by the Last Honest Cop, Robocop, ideal amalgam of prosthesis and sentimentality.
We've been obsessed with cops since the beginning--but the rozzers of yore played bumbling fools, Keystone Kops, Car 54 Where Are You, booby-bobbies set up for Fatty Arbuckle or Buster Keaton to squash & deflate. But in the ideal drama of the eighties, the "little man" who once scattered bluebottles by the hundred with that anarchist's bomb, innocently used to light a cigarette--the Tramp, the victim with the sudden power of the pure heart--no longer has a place at the center of narrative. Once "we" were that hobo, that quasi-surrealist chaote hero who wins thru wu- wei over the ludicrous minions of a despised & irrelevant Order.
But now "we" are reduced to the status of victims without power, or else criminals. "We" no longer occupy that central role; no longer the heros of our own stories, we've been marginalized & replaced by the Other, the Cop.
Thus the Cop Show has only three characters--victim, criminal, and policeperson--but the first two fail to be fully human--only the pig is real. Oddly enough, human society in the eighties (as seen in the other media) sometimes appeared to consist of the same three cliche/archetypes. First the victims, the whining minorities bitching about "rights"--and who pray tell did not belong to a "minority" in the eighties? Shit, even cops complained about their "rights" being abused. Then the criminals: largely non-white (despite the obligatory & hallucinatory "integration" of the media), largely poor (or else obscenely rich, hence even more alien), largely perverse (i.e. the forbidden mirrors of "our" desires). I've heard that one out of four households in America is robbed every year, & that every year nearly half a million of us are arrested just for smoking pot. In the face of such statistics (even assuming they're "damned lies") one wonders who is NOT either victim or criminal in our police-state-of-consciousness. The fuzz must mediate for all of us, however fuzzy the interface-- they're only warrior-priests, however profane. America's Most Wanted--the most successful TV game show of the eighties--opened up for all of us the role of Amateur Cop, hitherto merely a media fantasy of middleclass resentment & revenge. Naturally the truelife Cop hates no one so much as the vigilante--look what happens to poor &/or non-white neighborhood self-protection groups like the Muslims who tried to eliminate crack dealing in Brooklyn: the cops busted the Muslims, the pushers went free. Real vigilantes threaten the monopoly of enforcement, lÉse majest, more abominable than incest or murder. But media(ted) vigilantes function perfectly within the CopState; in fact, it would be more accurate to think of them as unpaid (not even a set of matched luggage!) informers: telemetric snitches, electro-stoolies, ratfinks- for-a-day.
What is it that "America most wants"? Does this phrase refer to criminals--or to crimes, to objects of desire in their real presence, unrepresented, unmediated, literally stolen & appropriated? America most wants...to fuck off work, ditch the spouse, do drugs (because only drugs make you feel as good as the people in TV ads appear to be), have sex with nubile jailbait, sodomy, burglary, hell yes. What unmediated pleasures are NOT illegal? Even outdoor barbecues violate smoke ordinances nowadays. The simplest enjoyments turn us against some law; finally pleasure becomes too stress- inducing, and only TV remains--and the pleasure of revenge, vicarious betrayal, the sick thrill of the tattletale. America can't have what it most wants, so it has America's Most Wanted instead. A nation of schoolyard toadies sucking up to an elite of schoolyard bullies.
Of course the program still suffers from a few strange reality-glitches: for example, the dramatized segments are enacted cinema verit style by actors; some viewers are so stupid they believe they're seeing actual footage of real crimes. Hence the actors are being continually harassed & even arrested, along with (or instead of) the real criminals whose mugshots are flashed after each little documentoid. How quaint, eh? No one really experiences anything--everyone reduced to the status of ghosts--media-images break off & float away from any contact with actual everyday life-- PhoneSex--CyberSex. Final transcendence of the body: cybergnosis.
The media cops, like televangelical forerunners, prepare us for the advent, final coming or Rapture of the police state: the "Wars" on sex and drugs: total control totally leached of all content; a map with no coordinates in any known space; far beyond mere Spectacle; sheer ecstasy ("standing- outside-the-body"); obscene simulacrum; meaningless violent spasms elevated to the last principle of governance. Image of a country consumed by images of self-hatred, war between the schizoid halves of a split personality, Super-Ego vs the Id Kid, for the heavyweight championship of an abandoned landscape, burnt, polluted, empty, desolate, unreal. Just as the murder-mystery is always an exercise in sadism, so the cop-fiction always involves the contemplation of control. The image of the inspector or detective measures the image of "our" lack of autonomous substance, our transparency before the gaze of authority. Our perversity, our helplessness. Whether we imagine them as "good" or "evil," our obsessive invocation of the eidolons of the Cops reveals the extent to which we have accepted the manichaean worldview they symbolize. Millions of tiny cops swarm everywhere, like the qlippoth, larval hungry ghosts--they fill the screen, as in Keaton's famous two-reeler, overwhelming the foreground, an Antarctic where nothing moves but hordes of sinister blue penguins.
We propose an esoteric hermeneutical exegesis of the Surrealist slogan "Mort aux vaches!" We take it to refer not to the deaths of individual cops ("cows" in the argot of the period)--mere leftist revenge fantasy--petty reverse sadism--but rather to the death of the image of the flic, the inner Control & its myriad reflections in the NoPlace Place of the media--the "gray room" as Burroughs calls it. Self-censorship, fear of one's own desires, "conscience" as the interiorized voice of consensus- authority. To assassinate these "security forces" would indeed release floods of libidinal energy, but not the violent running-amok predicted by the theory of Law 'n' Order.
Nietzschean "self-overcoming" provides the principle of organization for the free spirit (as also for anarchist society, at least in theory). In the police-state personality, libidinal energy is dammed & diverted toward self-repression; any threat to Control results in spasms of violence. In the free-spirit personality, energy flows unimpeded & therefore turbulently but gently--its chaos finds its strange attractor, allowing new spontaneous orders to emerge.
In this sense, then, we call for a boycott of the image of the Cop, & a moratorium on its production in art. In this sense...
MORT AUX VACHES!
Hakim Bey
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well, everywhere where i have worked has definitely had upgrade mania.
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Of course I have. But the christian story is, well, ugly. Christianity celebrates weakness, perversity and fear. Christian ethics is based in being weak; to be a good christian one has to follow orders. It is extremely sick. Compare this to ethics not tainted by christianity, such as Aristotle - for him being a good person revovled around being virtuous and strong. Mythologies of other cultures were a lot healthier.
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Just because humans and apes are morphologically similar does not mean they are geneetically similar. Compare hyenas to dogs. Hyenas look like really ugly dogs, but they have no genetic commonality (I'm pretty sure). They are closer to bears from what I know.
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So, in other words, the bible is only a metaphor. SO if it's not TRUE, then why even bother?
My stance? I don't care whether god exists or not. The whole question is irrelevant; it has no place in any discussion about ethics, existence or epistemology - because it isn't anything we can know. It's pointless, contemptible and stupid.
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"open source" people didn't come up with this, people have been seriously addressing property issues since the 19th century.
It's called "anarchism", and Debian is a pretty good example of how an anrcho-syndicalist organization would work, albeit a non-profit one (note that there is no reason why Debian should be non-profit). There are large (and very successful) syndicalist cooperatives in Europe, but very few in the US.
Kudos to RMS, but give credit where credit's due.
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is the cost of anti virus software and forced upgrades. NAI has a total lock on this software market (I think within the last few years they have managed to buy every single anti virus package) and is utterly gouging everyone. Just understanding their licensing terms requires a legal team.
we need a good GPL's antivirus application to counter this. Actually if there was one NAI would go belly up overnight. The viruses themselves probably cause minimal damage.
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thanks for stating the obvious.
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WHAT? Do you have any idea what gay people, especially gay males, go through?
Well asshole, in case you were wondering, just act gay for a few days, and tell everyone you know you're gay. Oh, thought not.
Pussy.
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So why do you oppose it? There is no rational basis for this. If someone's happiness depends on practicing homosexuality (the case for all gay people), then what can be wrong with it?
The only people to oppose homosexuality are religious morons and the repressed.
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no. no one imports crack directly, it is imported as coke then cooked into crack right here in the good USA.
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That is a SQL error, and any rdbms would say the same, it's a matter of configuration, not reliability.
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Really, I was thinking, WTF?
Charlton Heston didn't have the "foresight" to star in anything - he was paid. This guy is a moron. Charlton Heston isn't a national treasure, but Richard Stallman arguably is. Charlton Heston is a fucking actor. This guy is an absolute jackass. Besides which i hate republicans.
thank You
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well, before I open my big mouth, I would like to know just how many millions of US taxpayers dollars are going into AIDS research so that some capitalist fuckwit can "own" the "intelletual property".
That is bullshit, and I wager it's not a small amount of our money. I'm sick of the government stealing my money and giving it to corporations.
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CTRL-R in bash. bash has a very rich feature set with command history. check out the man page.
ksh and bash have all the features you could want. Unfortunately, commercial unix vendors ship everything as user hostile as possible, and ksh is totally unconfigured. Even Alan Cox posted a rant about hp sending a box with ksh, he had trouble with it. So I don't feel so bad.
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really ... i tried solaris x86 just for shits and giggles, and when faced with a totally unconfigured ksh, I just gave up after a few days.I couldn't figure out how to set emacs editing mode to save my life. Same with BSD and that horrible csh.
No wonder unix was going down the tubes. who the hell is going to be able to figure this out as a newbie?
What the fuck is with these people?
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absolutely, I'm no scientist, and I thought it was absurd.
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It would've been better, and even more disturbing, if the machines thought of themselves as "taking care" of humans by enslaving them
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you need the docking station with a pci slot. Don't think you'll ever have a way of using AGP cards, though
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The only reason I cannot use mozilla for mail is they removed, like a pack of idiots, the "next" button from the message window. Communicator has this, why'd they take it out?
Stupidly enough, the "next" button is there in the main window (where it is redundant, if you're reading your mail in that double-pane view you don't need a "next message" button you just click on the message you want to read). If you're viewing the message in a separate window, there's no "next" button and no "next message" command. Even worse, if you ddouble click in the message list, it open a new window instead of using the previous on, and no option to "keep messages in same window" like 4.x has.
It's also slow as fuck.
Otherwise it a nice mail and news client.
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The software yahoo uses for it's mail system would be a complete drop in replacement for exchange, and can obviously handle huge loads. Obviously it runs on *nix.
Why don't they see that thing? Are they crazy, or is the code that much of a mess?
It seems to me they could bundle apache with their software and sell it as one big easy to install deal. they could even make a bsd or linux distro specifically for this purpose.
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The Mondragon Cooperative (a very large one) is a famous example, there are others. Give me your mail and I can send you some more detailed info. There aren't any coops in the F500 because there aren't any that large ... hell, do we really need corporations that large? The only thing most corporations that large do is remove local business opportunities for people and flood communities with shit jobs (e.g., Wal-Mart, Pepsico, et. al.) The coutry has turned into a minimum wage cesspool due to this.
The idea that a democrtically run enterprise is less efficient than a hierarchical one is a myth. The reason business people hate co-ops and unions is not because they're less efficient, it's because they lose control.
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The reason most americans think democracy "can't work" is because they've never experienced it. I have just had it with morons whove never even attended a democratically run meeting bitching about how democracy can't work.
I have been to large meetings which were conducted by consensus style (decisions made unanimously) and meetings run with Robert's Rules (more complicated), and both work beautifully IF people know how to participate. Consensus style meetings can move along very quickly and the notion that they can't is mainly made by people who are just assuming that it wouldn't work.
Our workplaces might actually be enjoyable without a boss. IMO there is absolutely no need for heirarchy in the workplace.
This isn't anything new (look up anarcho-sydicalism), there are cooperatives now and ususally they outperform corporations, and their employees are a hell of a lot happier.
The laws favor corporations. Why?
The problem is americans are the most fucking brainwashed idiots in the world, who think they live in a democracy when they live in an iron fisted plutocracy.
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the debian organization is just FINE the way it is. there isn't a single reason why debian cannot sell their distribution and distribute the profits among the developers.
Debian is essentially a non-profit syndicalist organization (whether their members know it or not). There isn't a single good reason why they should be non-profit.
Building a for-profit organization along the lines of a typical american heirarchical corporation isn't going to do anything for debian. No CEO's are needed.
There isn't any good reason why a for-profit organization cannot be democratically organized the way debian is - it's called a COOPERATIVE. The model they use has proven to be the best; they are the best linux distribution. Why not extend that into the economic realm? It works, and everyone involved is happier.
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