Not at all. Education makes you smart. But students have zero to little life experience. Psychologically, late adolescence (your early college years) is the time one undergoes a complete reevalution of their taught values. Reevaluation of core cultural values with zero life experience coupled results in heads full of mush.
They have their hearts in the right place. But they have no "brains" in terms of how things really work in the world. Colleges become communities of Dennis Moore's.
I'm not denigrating the young. I am merely observing. If you look at your typical college campus you will find that it has a much greater percentage of extreme political viewpoints than non-college communities.
Unfortunately, the funky animal covered books on C and C++ leave a lot to be desired. They offer the world's best Perl books, but for compiled languages they are little more than beginners tutorials.
It's a shame because an O'Reilly "Programming C/C++" with the same comprehensiveness and quality of "Programming Perl" would rock.
There are a lot of programmers out there who don't have the minimum set of knowledge to perform the admin part of steps, but do have the technical know how to write solid code.
I remember the first patch someone sent me. I was overjoyed that someone was actually using my program! Then I realized I didn't know how to apply a patch. So I patched it manually through cut-n-paste. Never again.
(at least I knew how to write a makefile rather than letting some IDE do it for me)
Mendocino, the entire country, is an object lesson for every Californian. Humbolt the city, and the rest of the country, was once staunchly conservative with a thriving economy in lumber. Than Cal State Humbolt set up shop. Thousands of students with empty heads showed up. Ivory tower professors showed up to fill their heads with ivory tower thoughts. Then the students started voting. Humbolt became a liberal mecca. The cancer spread throughout the county. Now Humbolt's economy is based on lawsuits and welfare checks.
Don't let this happen to your community. It happened to Santa Cruz. It happened to La Jolla. It happened even to Berkeley and Palo Alto, both conservative havens in the liberal bay area...until the voting age was lowered to toddlerhood. It's going to happen to Merced with the new UC. The only place this hasn't happened is when the university is in a big city. The old saying goes "if you're not liberal at 18 you have no heart, if you're not conservative at 68 you have no brain." Well, move a major university to a small town and you suddenly get more heart than brains.
I'm sure the guy in this story has his heart in the right place, but he certainly has no brain!
When an idiot gets mugged you still blame the mugger. Trying to foist the blame off on the victim is fucking bullshit. That is not the way of civilization.
Pinging is like driving by a house to see if its lights are on. This is a legitimate activity. No use parking the car and walking across a wet yard in the pouring rain to ring the doorbell if the lights are off.
There's enough rich white kids who never got spanked by their parents in North America that we could make a MASSIVE dent in DoS attacks if we target them. They're powerless without daddy's allowance money.
Law enforcement in cyberspace is a joke. The FBI will spend millions harrassing SJGames but the local police won't even take your report on your site defacement. Show them printouts of headers, traces and syslogs and they'll stare blankly.
When the official law enforcement is incapable of action, it's time the citizenry take back the power they -lent- to the police. It's time for online vigilantes. Hack the cracker sites and infect their warez. Track the bastards down and crack their systems. Mailbomb their parents to let them know that Junior is misbehaving. Give them a steady stream of virii and trojans. Granted, most of these sociopaths lead lives of self-inflicted solitude and misery, but they can't live in utter isolation. They have other sociopath confederates. So infiltrate their box and attack their friends. Get them attacking with each other.
Yes, I know that vigilantism is "illegal". But the law enforcement community won't do anything. You can sit back and do nothing while your ISP goes down or you can act in your own defense.
The typical cracker is a moron. They couldn't code "Hello World" in English. All they do is download new warez. We're smarter than they are.
And oh, by the way, if you actually get ahold of one of these turkeys in the flesh, take them out back and beat the shit out of them.
All he'd need is a valid disclaimer. If he is creating his own crypt method then he just needs to say that it's ok to break it. Surely?
Do any of you guys try to find stuff out on your own, or do you just regurgitate the shit that Slashdot feeds you.
The DMCA is about copyright, not about decrypting a message in base four. Geez. If Adobe (as just a hypothetical example) decided to encrypt their PDF files in base four, then it would be illegal to decrypt those files. But it would NOT be illegal to decrypt any non-PDF base four encodings. The DMCA is Evil enough without you inventing yet new Evils for it.
In summary, no one needs any damn disclaimer to use base four (or rot13). Get real.
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For example under WindowMaker you need to put every item one by one to the x menu.
That's the way it is supposed to be. Windowmaker is not FreeBSD and FreeBSD is not Windowmaker. They are separate projects. For FreeBSD to come along and decide what entries you must have in your wm menu would be the height of arrogance.
I used a Linux distro once that kept modifying my Windowmaker menu. It drove me nuts. I kept removing stuff and Redbutt kept putting it back in. So I tried another distro and it did the same damn thing, but went several steps further by removing every manual configuration I made every time it booted.
Dammit! Leave my configuration alone! If some distro wants to ship with default configs for the newbies, more power to them. But don't touch my configs after I do. That's more than rude, it's Evil.
Unless you have 5 years expereince or a cs degree you can not really tune it or highly configure it. In Windows you can just point and click and all the items are in the start menu by default.
Since when did you need a 5 year degree to add items to a menu?
I believe Linux took off because the distro's configure everything for you.
Linux took off long before the hand-holding distros should up. Go use Redhat 4.2 and see how easy it is. It was a nightmare of unusability. But it was the most popular distro at the time the world begin to discover that there was such a thing as Linux.
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There is an openpackages project that means to integrate all the BSD ports, so that there won't be a separate ports tree for OpenBSD, NetBSD, FreeBSD, and Darwin. It's open for Linux participation.
As I understand it, the underlying system will be the same for all participants, but individuals platforms would have to maintain their own patches.
The music industry may be attempting to stop you from trading *their* music, but they haven't uttered one syllable about not wanting you to do whatever you want with the music you created yourself.
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The glibc library provides the userland interface to the kernel.
Um, no. The *kernel* provides the userland interface to the kernel.
In the Debian world, the OS is anything that would cause RMS to explode if it didn't have the prefix "GNU".
Orwell was right. GNU has been redefining the English language for 18 years, so it's to be expected that Gnuliban can't think straight anymore.
Re:Do you care about your kernel?
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I get to laugh at my friends who cant X setup on thier freebsd boxes.
Funny, it's the same damn X on *BSD and Linux. It installs and sets up exactly the same. Now if you're talking about Linux front ends that try to simplify the procedure, like DrakX which has never failed to royally hose my XF86Config, you can have them.
Everyone has their own definition, which is why I use the definition in the dictionary (www.m-w.com). Turns out that despite RMS's protests to the contrary, emacs, gnuchess and GNOME are not parts of an operating system.
It's not about elitism, it is about the dangers of an industry which has as a stated goal the eradication of free software
Please cite a reference that this industry wishes to eradicate all free software. Just because they don't want to release their own software as free doesn't mean that they want to prevent everyone else in the world from doing so. There's enough Conspiratorial Cabals of Evil out there without having to invent more.
The reason is simple: the "free" version of QNX is an *evaluation* version. Shareware in other words. In order to release a QNX application you must have the licensed version of QNX.
This is in many ways the same situation that exists under Microsoft. If you release a Windows app created on a pirated copy of Windows, and Microsoft found out, you're in deep doodoo. QNX at least gives you an uncrippled evaluation copy to use.
According to my QNX rep, you *can* release non-commercial software for QNX using the evaluation copy. Of course, he's not a lawyer, but a salesman, but I suspect he knows more about it than I.
and it's not by itself an overpowering reason to use BSD.
Does the converse also apply to Debian? Is apt-get an insufficient reason to switch? Of course the answer is yes, but I've run across too many Debian users who would argue otherwise.
There will always be one OS/distro/system somewhere that happens to have to most software available. Currently that happens to be Windows. But somehow I don't think Debian users are going to suddenly switch to Windows. The number of packages available on a system is largely irrelevant to the user. All they want to ensure is that there's a sufficient number of packages that they're not spending a significant amount of their time hunting stuff down.
Now let's suppose that two different distros each of 10,000 packages. Will they have exactly the same packages? Of course not. If you choose one of those distros you will eventually discover that they other has the software that you want.
Instead of nitpicking Debian-vs-FreeBSD to death, let me rephrase my original assertion: "FreeBSD has 99% of what you want. Of that remaining 1%, it's not worth switching over."
"There are currently 6376 ports in the FreeBSD Ports Collection." [http://www.freebsd.org/ports/index.html]
That's a hell of a lot of software. It's a hell of a lot more than Debian -stable (3950). But I here you cry that Debian -unstable is really stable so I should consider that instead, even though Debian still calls it -unstable. Trouble is, there's no official count of the number of packages in -unstable (and I'm not about to count them by hand).
So I did an unofficial, by the seat of my pants, survey of Debian packages. It turns out that Debian has a very high atomicity for it's packages. In other words, what is one package on FreeBSD might be two or more packages on Debian. Examples include splitting a library up into base, development and examples packages, a greater preponderance of "meta" packages (like koffice being split up into nine packages, plus the "development" package), and duplicate packages differing only in their build options (dia, fluxbox). Other oddities include dozens of kernel versions and dozens more kernel patches, splitting the KDE wallpaper out into it's own package (huh?).
Going by package count is definitely NOT the way to compare FreeBSD and Debian.
So far I haven't found any software that I wanted that was in Debian but wasn't in FreeBSD. But what if I did? Well then, I would simply turn on FreeBSD's Linux compatibility Mode!
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remember that the Debian project is not Linux, but a GNU operating system.
Bullhockey! The name of the operating system is "Linux". The name of the distribution is "Debian". As the distributor, Debian could call the OS any damn thing they want. They could have called it "Fred", but they chose "GNU/Linux" because that involved the least amount of bloodshed on the Debian mailing lists.
A few definitions are in order:
Operating system: "software that controls the operation of a computer and directs the processing of programs (as by assigning storage space in memory and controlling input and output functions)" [Merriam Webster]. This specifies a kernel and some bits of surrounding infrastructure (such as a filesystem, init scripts, etc). Everything else is extra. They are not part of the operating system.
The GNU System: An operating system created as part of the GNU Project. The FSF very clearly refers to GNU as "an operating system". Unfortunately, the FSF doesn't really know what an operating system is. They talk about games and mail clients and all sorts of stuff that aren't part of operating systems. It really seems that they aren't describing an operating system, but an overall collection of software that just happens to include an operating system.
Until Debian releases "Debian GNU/Hurd" in a finished state, there will be no GNU System.
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Not at all. Education makes you smart. But students have zero to little life experience. Psychologically, late adolescence (your early college years) is the time one undergoes a complete reevalution of their taught values. Reevaluation of core cultural values with zero life experience coupled results in heads full of mush.
They have their hearts in the right place. But they have no "brains" in terms of how things really work in the world. Colleges become communities of Dennis Moore's.
I'm not denigrating the young. I am merely observing. If you look at your typical college campus you will find that it has a much greater percentage of extreme political viewpoints than non-college communities.
Unfortunately, the funky animal covered books on C and C++ leave a lot to be desired. They offer the world's best Perl books, but for compiled languages they are little more than beginners tutorials.
It's a shame because an O'Reilly "Programming C/C++" with the same comprehensiveness and quality of "Programming Perl" would rock.
There are a lot of programmers out there who don't have the minimum set of knowledge to perform the admin part of steps, but do have the technical know how to write solid code.
I remember the first patch someone sent me. I was overjoyed that someone was actually using my program! Then I realized I didn't know how to apply a patch. So I patched it manually through cut-n-paste. Never again.
(at least I knew how to write a makefile rather than letting some IDE do it for me)
Mendocino, the entire country, is an object lesson for every Californian. Humbolt the city, and the rest of the country, was once staunchly conservative with a thriving economy in lumber. Than Cal State Humbolt set up shop. Thousands of students with empty heads showed up. Ivory tower professors showed up to fill their heads with ivory tower thoughts. Then the students started voting. Humbolt became a liberal mecca. The cancer spread throughout the county. Now Humbolt's economy is based on lawsuits and welfare checks.
Don't let this happen to your community. It happened to Santa Cruz. It happened to La Jolla. It happened even to Berkeley and Palo Alto, both conservative havens in the liberal bay area...until the voting age was lowered to toddlerhood. It's going to happen to Merced with the new UC. The only place this hasn't happened is when the university is in a big city. The old saying goes "if you're not liberal at 18 you have no heart, if you're not conservative at 68 you have no brain." Well, move a major university to a small town and you suddenly get more heart than brains.
I'm sure the guy in this story has his heart in the right place, but he certainly has no brain!
So you're telling me it's illegal to decrypt rot13 messages? I think some of you guys read more into the laws than are actually there.
When an idiot gets mugged you still blame the mugger. Trying to foist the blame off on the victim is fucking bullshit. That is not the way of civilization.
You have your metaphors all messed up.
Pinging is like driving by a house to see if its lights are on. This is a legitimate activity. No use parking the car and walking across a wet yard in the pouring rain to ring the doorbell if the lights are off.
There's enough rich white kids who never got spanked by their parents in North America that we could make a MASSIVE dent in DoS attacks if we target them. They're powerless without daddy's allowance money.
Law enforcement in cyberspace is a joke. The FBI will spend millions harrassing SJGames but the local police won't even take your report on your site defacement. Show them printouts of headers, traces and syslogs and they'll stare blankly.
When the official law enforcement is incapable of action, it's time the citizenry take back the power they -lent- to the police. It's time for online vigilantes. Hack the cracker sites and infect their warez. Track the bastards down and crack their systems. Mailbomb their parents to let them know that Junior is misbehaving. Give them a steady stream of virii and trojans. Granted, most of these sociopaths lead lives of self-inflicted solitude and misery, but they can't live in utter isolation. They have other sociopath confederates. So infiltrate their box and attack their friends. Get them attacking with each other.
Yes, I know that vigilantism is "illegal". But the law enforcement community won't do anything. You can sit back and do nothing while your ISP goes down or you can act in your own defense.
The typical cracker is a moron. They couldn't code "Hello World" in English. All they do is download new warez. We're smarter than they are.
And oh, by the way, if you actually get ahold of one of these turkeys in the flesh, take them out back and beat the shit out of them.
All he'd need is a valid disclaimer. If he is creating his own crypt method then he just needs to say that it's ok to break it. Surely?
Do any of you guys try to find stuff out on your own, or do you just regurgitate the shit that Slashdot feeds you.
The DMCA is about copyright, not about decrypting a message in base four. Geez. If Adobe (as just a hypothetical example) decided to encrypt their PDF files in base four, then it would be illegal to decrypt those files. But it would NOT be illegal to decrypt any non-PDF base four encodings. The DMCA is Evil enough without you inventing yet new Evils for it.
In summary, no one needs any damn disclaimer to use base four (or rot13). Get real.
For example under WindowMaker you need to put every item one by one to the x menu.
That's the way it is supposed to be. Windowmaker is not FreeBSD and FreeBSD is not Windowmaker. They are separate projects. For FreeBSD to come along and decide what entries you must have in your wm menu would be the height of arrogance.
I used a Linux distro once that kept modifying my Windowmaker menu. It drove me nuts. I kept removing stuff and Redbutt kept putting it back in. So I tried another distro and it did the same damn thing, but went several steps further by removing every manual configuration I made every time it booted.
Dammit! Leave my configuration alone! If some distro wants to ship with default configs for the newbies, more power to them. But don't touch my configs after I do. That's more than rude, it's Evil.
Unless you have 5 years expereince or a cs degree you can not really tune it or highly configure it. In Windows you can just point and click and all the items are in the start menu by default.
Since when did you need a 5 year degree to add items to a menu?
I believe Linux took off because the distro's configure everything for you.
Linux took off long before the hand-holding distros should up. Go use Redhat 4.2 and see how easy it is. It was a nightmare of unusability. But it was the most popular distro at the time the world begin to discover that there was such a thing as Linux.
There is an openpackages project that means to integrate all the BSD ports, so that there won't be a separate ports tree for OpenBSD, NetBSD, FreeBSD, and Darwin. It's open for Linux participation.
As I understand it, the underlying system will be the same for all participants, but individuals platforms would have to maintain their own patches.
The music industry may be attempting to stop you from trading *their* music, but they haven't uttered one syllable about not wanting you to do whatever you want with the music you created yourself.
The glibc library provides the userland interface to the kernel.
Um, no. The *kernel* provides the userland interface to the kernel.
In the Debian world, the OS is anything that would cause RMS to explode if it didn't have the prefix "GNU".
Orwell was right. GNU has been redefining the English language for 18 years, so it's to be expected that Gnuliban can't think straight anymore.
I get to laugh at my friends who cant X setup on thier freebsd boxes.
Funny, it's the same damn X on *BSD and Linux. It installs and sets up exactly the same. Now if you're talking about Linux front ends that try to simplify the procedure, like DrakX which has never failed to royally hose my XF86Config, you can have them.
That's entirely a matter of definition.
Everyone has their own definition, which is why I use the definition in the dictionary (www.m-w.com). Turns out that despite RMS's protests to the contrary, emacs, gnuchess and GNOME are not parts of an operating system.
It's not about elitism, it is about the dangers of an industry which has as a stated goal the eradication of free software
Please cite a reference that this industry wishes to eradicate all free software. Just because they don't want to release their own software as free doesn't mean that they want to prevent everyone else in the world from doing so. There's enough Conspiratorial Cabals of Evil out there without having to invent more.
QNX has a nice looking GUI, but who would need it in an embedded or real time application?
Unix geeks demanding CLI-only interfaces aren't the only people that use embedded or real-time systems.
Scenario A) An embedded device controllable by the enduser: Gas pumps, POS terminals, ATMs, PDAs.
Scenario B) A realtime system with a non-realtime front end: medical scanning systems, manufacturing control systems.
A million more scenarios exist. Embedded RTOS aren't only for unseen automobile smog sensors.
The reason is simple: the "free" version of QNX is an *evaluation* version. Shareware in other words. In order to release a QNX application you must have the licensed version of QNX.
This is in many ways the same situation that exists under Microsoft. If you release a Windows app created on a pirated copy of Windows, and Microsoft found out, you're in deep doodoo. QNX at least gives you an uncrippled evaluation copy to use.
According to my QNX rep, you *can* release non-commercial software for QNX using the evaluation copy. Of course, he's not a lawyer, but a salesman, but I suspect he knows more about it than I.
and it's not by itself an overpowering reason to use BSD.
Does the converse also apply to Debian? Is apt-get an insufficient reason to switch? Of course the answer is yes, but I've run across too many Debian users who would argue otherwise.
There will always be one OS/distro/system somewhere that happens to have to most software available. Currently that happens to be Windows. But somehow I don't think Debian users are going to suddenly switch to Windows. The number of packages available on a system is largely irrelevant to the user. All they want to ensure is that there's a sufficient number of packages that they're not spending a significant amount of their time hunting stuff down.
Now let's suppose that two different distros each of 10,000 packages. Will they have exactly the same packages? Of course not. If you choose one of those distros you will eventually discover that they other has the software that you want.
Instead of nitpicking Debian-vs-FreeBSD to death, let me rephrase my original assertion: "FreeBSD has 99% of what you want. Of that remaining 1%, it's not worth switching over."
"There are currently 6376 ports in the FreeBSD Ports Collection." [http://www.freebsd.org/ports/index.html]
That's a hell of a lot of software. It's a hell of a lot more than Debian -stable (3950). But I here you cry that Debian -unstable is really stable so I should consider that instead, even though Debian still calls it -unstable. Trouble is, there's no official count of the number of packages in -unstable (and I'm not about to count them by hand).
So I did an unofficial, by the seat of my pants, survey of Debian packages. It turns out that Debian has a very high atomicity for it's packages. In other words, what is one package on FreeBSD might be two or more packages on Debian. Examples include splitting a library up into base, development and examples packages, a greater preponderance of "meta" packages (like koffice being split up into nine packages, plus the "development" package), and duplicate packages differing only in their build options (dia, fluxbox). Other oddities include dozens of kernel versions and dozens more kernel patches, splitting the KDE wallpaper out into it's own package (huh?).
Going by package count is definitely NOT the way to compare FreeBSD and Debian.
So far I haven't found any software that I wanted that was in Debian but wasn't in FreeBSD. But what if I did? Well then, I would simply turn on FreeBSD's Linux compatibility Mode!
portupgrade -P package
remember that the Debian project is not Linux, but a GNU operating system.
Bullhockey! The name of the operating system is "Linux". The name of the distribution is "Debian". As the distributor, Debian could call the OS any damn thing they want. They could have called it "Fred", but they chose "GNU/Linux" because that involved the least amount of bloodshed on the Debian mailing lists.
A few definitions are in order:
Operating system: "software that controls the operation of a computer and directs the processing of programs (as by assigning storage space in memory and controlling input and output functions)" [Merriam Webster]. This specifies a kernel and some bits of surrounding infrastructure (such as a filesystem, init scripts, etc). Everything else is extra. They are not part of the operating system.
The GNU System: An operating system created as part of the GNU Project. The FSF very clearly refers to GNU as "an operating system". Unfortunately, the FSF doesn't really know what an operating system is. They talk about games and mail clients and all sorts of stuff that aren't part of operating systems. It really seems that they aren't describing an operating system, but an overall collection of software that just happens to include an operating system.
Until Debian releases "Debian GNU/Hurd" in a finished state, there will be no GNU System.