Here's a link to a story I just read at Salon.com - about a train in Norway that wouldn't start because of a belated Y2K date problem. Seems it went to 31/12/00!
Um, if it exists in *any* usable form then it's not vaporware. It's an ambitious, interesting project - why would you want to beat up on the guy? For that matter, why would you want to change your own oil when it's all of $12 at the local gas station?
eh, I dunno, I've been doing a shopping-cart-like site for my local car dealer for years and we usually put up the actual picture - sometimes a stock shot, but always labelled as such. What's the difference between selling cars (offering for a bid, there's no set price) and auctioning old garden art?
(Other than the fact that you won't get a ticket for doing twice the limit in your stone gargoyle?)
First, I'd like to know just how much "Open Source" code was lifted, and from where
Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see anything that suggested any open source code was lifted, just that 30% was available as open source. That could be because they put some earlier parts of the project in the public domain, not an uncommon practice in Amiga-land.
Also, could they pick a new name before it comes out, please?
Agreed! I thought it was a story about the Athlon processor at first!
What's stopping you? Get the money and launch yer ass into orbit.
The role of government in space should be ZILCH. If you think otherwise, look at its fucking track record.
You mean the track record that put us on the moon THIRTY YEARS AGO when most countries were happy to have running water? Oh yeah, I'm sure we would've landed on the moon if it was left to companies who have to keep Wall St. happy on a quarterly basis.
If the government hadn't had its hands in there we would have been on the moon five years earlier.
If you turn off Rush Limbaugh for a few minutes and check your history books or talk to some of the people involved you'll quickly see that statement is ridiculous. I followed the space program quite closely in the sixties, and we were lucky any of that stuff worked. Who do you think does the work? Private contractors. If they could have done it faster, commercially, and made money at it they would have. They didn't.
You might want to just stop by the State Dept., they "lose" them all the time, as in: "Would anyone who's found a laptop with top-secret information please return it to the security desk as soon as possible?"
Or, if you're a Brit apparently MI5 does the same thing.
Yes, the best way to debug programs is to not ENBUG them. Lo-tech: Read the code. Have each thread print trace info to a log so you can see the interaction and interleaving of the execution. And if you really want a great system for doing multithreading and are willing to change your entire universe to get there just use OS/2.:-)
Looks like it's good enough for "Timothy". He says: Hmm, CreditCards.com. I'm sure no cracker would ever think of that as a juicy target. Why not name your company FreeMoneyForCrackers.com instead?"
Yeah, name it JKL.COM, that'll stop those nasty crackers.
Yeah, I remember having one of those boxes at BTX in the Boston area. Can't remember the particulars but I think the capacity was a lot better than most solutions at the time, although it was slow as hell.
I hope you are never faced with eye-witness testimony in a court of law as the only evidence against you. The human eye is open to human interruptation, the machines are impartial.
Yes, absolutely true. Eye witness reports are notoriously unreliable. But identifying someone you saw for 30 seconds in the dark is not the same as looking at a ballot and having it screened by several other people.
The Florida Supreme Court are all liberals, and the Federal Courts in Florida were all Clinton appointees. Fuck the courst, have a re-vote = with the sudden urgency in the my vote matters the other 90 million Americans that didn't bother would decide the election.
Yeah, I agree completely. If this were happening in any other country that's what the election monitors would do, and we'd be screaming bloody murder. I'd love to see what the turnout would be. My guess is a lot of those 47% who didn't vote would, and the race wouldn't be so close.
From CNN:
Electoral votes: Gore 255, Bush 246
Popular votes: Gore 49,921,267, Bush 49,658,276
How you read election results is the guy with the MOST votes WINS. That would be GORE, by 262,991 votes. See, in this case MORE is better, and MORE is what Gore has.
So, Gore DID win the popular vote by a margin 200 times higher than what they're contesting in Florida, and is in fact 9 ahead ahead in the electoral vote. So if we just wrote off Florida entirely (not a bad idea in the best of times) he would be President.
There was ONE machine recount which ignored a LOT of ballots - human eyes are better than 40 yr old misaligned optical sensors. The other recounts HAVE NOT BEEN DONE MORE THAN ONCE, they're in different PLACES. If the GOP were really interested in making sure about the count they would just recount the whole state, both Democrat and Republican counties in order to not give an advantage to either side.
In fact, the only reason the recounts haven't been finished is due to the efforts of the Bush campaign to stop them. The recounts are conducted under strict conditions with multiple observers from BOTH parties. Not one vote for Gore has been counted that didn't get past a Republican observer.
Katherine Harris clearly should have recused herself, although she gets my vote the next time they cast the Wicked Witch of the West - she looks pretty rough for 43 yrs old. We can at least be thankful that Jeb Bush did the right thing.
Oh, and by the way, next time you may want to pick a VP that hasn't already had 3 heart attacks and a triple bypass.
The article you point to is interesting. And before you go off about "liberal" judges, note that "The balance is reversed at the U.S. Supreme Court. Seven of its nine justices are Republican appointees. Two of them--Justices David H. Souter and Clarence Thomas--were appointed by the candidate's father, President Bush."
crank up your Gonkulator for the best protection! Of course the American ones are not as effecive as ours, especially the old Frammerstat drive models.
computers will probably start having several medium fast cheap processors instead of one really fast expensive processor
A reasonable prediction, but wouldn't you think that would've happened already? Seems the cost of connecting and synchronizing them always outweighs the cost of a single fast CPU. With 800Mhz machines selling for $1k with everything including the kitchen sink (AND in your choice of groovy colors!), is it really cost-effective to add more main processors now for consumer/business systems?
Ever been unable to re-install software you legally bought after a machine died because you couldn't find a 2 yr old CD key? This is just one step past that. It's not that people here are necessarily bigots (possibly, but not necessarily), just that they think it's stupid to leave access to your work open to extortion. If it floats yer boat Estanislao by ALL means go ahead and let us know how it works out. You could be the first to evangelize the ASP pay-per-letter transaction business model of computing to the Slashdot crowd.
Actually some of them are hanging out with their kids, trying to win the Presidency back by any means available. Anyone know how many years Bush Sr. was head of the CIA?
We need to accept that there is something wrong with people who want to be cops
Funny, I was talking to a girl I know last night and she was upset her previous boss had died. Turns out she's putting in an application for the State Troopers and she's afraid when they do an employement check his widow will tell them she was fired - for stealing.
She figured the guy who died (who she probably flirted with heavily if I know her) would give her a break, but apparently the wife didn't like her. Can't imagine why. I *really* hope they don't take her.
Frankly, I see it as a slap in the face to Mozilla, since all their volunteered hard work has created a product that will line Netscape's pockets.
Well, isn't this the basic problem when the open source concept meets corporate projects? How many people will work on something "for the fun of it" when someone upstream is getting the money? And didn't they know this beforehand? Not specifically maybe via adverts, but they had to know Netscape would try to make money somehow on it, wouldn't they? So they can keep the phones working and stuff?
How would they go about compensating their volunteers anyway? A code review of every submission with a $$ estimate? A bonus for especially good stuff?
I could shoot myself for missing the voting for that... I think.xxx and.kids makes a lot of sense, and.biz makes no sense. There's already a place for business, it's called.com.
.xxx would be a place where you'd be guaranteed (!) to see nudity, and.kids a place you'd be guaranteed to not see nudity. It would certainly help the whole library filtering schmozzle. It's a lot easier to reliably filter out the TLD than actual content.
I can see their point about determining content in.kids though.
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Sheesh!
Here's a link to a story I just read at Salon.com - about a train in Norway that wouldn't start because of a belated Y2K date problem. Seems it went to 31/12/00!
'nuff said.
Um, if it exists in *any* usable form then it's not vaporware. It's an ambitious, interesting project - why would you want to beat up on the guy? For that matter, why would you want to change your own oil when it's all of $12 at the local gas station?
eh, I dunno, I've been doing a shopping-cart-like site for my local car dealer for years and we usually put up the actual picture - sometimes a stock shot, but always labelled as such. What's the difference between selling cars (offering for a bid, there's no set price) and auctioning old garden art?
(Other than the fact that you won't get a ticket for doing twice the limit in your stone gargoyle?)
First, I'd like to know just how much "Open Source" code was lifted, and from where
Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see anything that suggested any open source code was lifted, just that 30% was available as open source. That could be because they put some earlier parts of the project in the public domain, not an uncommon practice in Amiga-land.
Also, could they pick a new name before it comes out, please?
Agreed! I thought it was a story about the Athlon processor at first!
and let responsible corporate entities do what they do best
What would that be, gouge their customers and dump toxic waste in the local waterway?
"responsible corporate entities" is a bit like military intelligence - they both DO exist, but only in very small quantities.
Oh yeah, I'd feel much better if Microsoft was running the space program. No slip-ups, cover-ups or nefarious business practices there. No suh.
What's stopping you? Get the money and launch yer ass into orbit.
The role of government in space should be ZILCH. If you think otherwise, look at its fucking track record.
You mean the track record that put us on the moon THIRTY YEARS AGO when most countries were happy to have running water? Oh yeah, I'm sure we would've landed on the moon if it was left to companies who have to keep Wall St. happy on a quarterly basis.
If the government hadn't had its hands in there we would have been on the moon five years earlier.
If you turn off Rush Limbaugh for a few minutes and check your history books or talk to some of the people involved you'll quickly see that statement is ridiculous. I followed the space program quite closely in the sixties, and we were lucky any of that stuff worked. Who do you think does the work? Private contractors. If they could have done it faster, commercially, and made money at it they would have. They didn't.
I find them fascinating. I'm surprised we don't see a real investigation about them - or maybe not, considering what they probably are. :-)
You might want to just stop by the State Dept., they "lose" them all the time, as in: "Would anyone who's found a laptop with top-secret information please return it to the security desk as soon as possible?"
Or, if you're a Brit apparently MI5 does the same thing.
Yes, the best way to debug programs is to not ENBUG them. Lo-tech: Read the code. Have each thread print trace info to a log so you can see the interaction and interleaving of the execution. And if you really want a great system for doing multithreading and are willing to change your entire universe to get there just use OS/2. :-)
Looks like it's good enough for "Timothy". He says: Hmm, CreditCards.com. I'm sure no cracker would ever think of that as a juicy target. Why not name your company FreeMoneyForCrackers.com instead?"
Yeah, name it JKL.COM, that'll stop those nasty crackers.
I thought those were the best parts!
Yeah, I remember having one of those boxes at BTX in the Boston area. Can't remember the particulars but I think the capacity was a lot better than most solutions at the time, although it was slow as hell.
This is shocking.
Right, that gets "Insightful" and mine gets "Off-topic". Idiots.
Ever work with ISS stuff? It ain't lame.
I hope you are never faced with eye-witness testimony in a court of law as the only evidence against you. The human eye is open to human interruptation, the machines are impartial.
Yes, absolutely true. Eye witness reports are notoriously unreliable. But identifying someone you saw for 30 seconds in the dark is not the same as looking at a ballot and having it screened by several other people.
The Florida Supreme Court are all liberals, and the Federal Courts in Florida were all Clinton appointees. Fuck the courst, have a re-vote = with the sudden urgency in the my vote matters the other 90 million Americans that didn't bother would decide the election.
Yeah, I agree completely. If this were happening in any other country that's what the election monitors would do, and we'd be screaming bloody murder. I'd love to see what the turnout would be. My guess is a lot of those 47% who didn't vote would, and the race wouldn't be so close.
From CNN:
Electoral votes: Gore 255, Bush 246
Popular votes: Gore 49,921,267, Bush 49,658,276
How you read election results is the guy with the MOST votes WINS. That would be GORE, by 262,991 votes. See, in this case MORE is better, and MORE is what Gore has.
So, Gore DID win the popular vote by a margin 200 times higher than what they're contesting in Florida, and is in fact 9 ahead ahead in the electoral vote. So if we just wrote off Florida entirely (not a bad idea in the best of times) he would be President.
There was ONE machine recount which ignored a LOT of ballots - human eyes are better than 40 yr old misaligned optical sensors. The other recounts HAVE NOT BEEN DONE MORE THAN ONCE, they're in different PLACES. If the GOP were really interested in making sure about the count they would just recount the whole state, both Democrat and Republican counties in order to not give an advantage to either side.
In fact, the only reason the recounts haven't been finished is due to the efforts of the Bush campaign to stop them. The recounts are conducted under strict conditions with multiple observers from BOTH parties. Not one vote for Gore has been counted that didn't get past a Republican observer.
Katherine Harris clearly should have recused herself, although she gets my vote the next time they cast the Wicked Witch of the West - she looks pretty rough for 43 yrs old. We can at least be thankful that Jeb Bush did the right thing.
Oh, and by the way, next time you may want to pick a VP that hasn't already had 3 heart attacks and a triple bypass.
The article you point to is interesting. And before you go off about "liberal" judges, note that "The balance is reversed at the U.S. Supreme Court. Seven of its nine justices are Republican appointees. Two of them--Justices David H. Souter and Clarence Thomas--were appointed by the candidate's father, President Bush."
Now there's a fair venue, eh?
crank up your Gonkulator for the best protection! Of course the American ones are not as effecive as ours, especially the old Frammerstat drive models.
computers will probably start having several medium fast cheap processors instead of one really fast expensive processor
A reasonable prediction, but wouldn't you think that would've happened already? Seems the cost of connecting and synchronizing them always outweighs the cost of a single fast CPU. With 800Mhz machines selling for $1k with everything including the kitchen sink (AND in your choice of groovy colors!), is it really cost-effective to add more main processors now for consumer/business systems?
Ever been unable to re-install software you legally bought after a machine died because you couldn't find a 2 yr old CD key? This is just one step past that. It's not that people here are necessarily bigots (possibly, but not necessarily), just that they think it's stupid to leave access to your work open to extortion. If it floats yer boat Estanislao by ALL means go ahead and let us know how it works out. You could be the first to evangelize the ASP pay-per-letter transaction business model of computing to the Slashdot crowd.
Actually some of them are hanging out with their kids, trying to win the Presidency back by any means available. Anyone know how many years Bush Sr. was head of the CIA?
We need to accept that there is something wrong with people who want to be cops
Funny, I was talking to a girl I know last night and she was upset her previous boss had died. Turns out she's putting in an application for the State Troopers and she's afraid when they do an employement check his widow will tell them she was fired - for stealing.
She figured the guy who died (who she probably flirted with heavily if I know her) would give her a break, but apparently the wife didn't like her. Can't imagine why. I *really* hope they don't take her.
Frankly, I see it as a slap in the face to Mozilla, since all their volunteered hard work has created a product that will line Netscape's pockets.
Well, isn't this the basic problem when the open source concept meets corporate projects? How many people will work on something "for the fun of it" when someone upstream is getting the money? And didn't they know this beforehand? Not specifically maybe via adverts, but they had to know Netscape would try to make money somehow on it, wouldn't they? So they can keep the phones working and stuff?
How would they go about compensating their volunteers anyway? A code review of every submission with a $$ estimate? A bonus for especially good stuff?
I could shoot myself for missing the voting for that... I think .xxx and .kids makes a lot of sense, and .biz makes no sense. There's already a place for business, it's called .com.
.kids a place you'd be guaranteed to not see nudity. It would certainly help the whole library filtering schmozzle. It's a lot easier to reliably filter out the TLD than actual content.
.kids though.
.xxx would be a place where you'd be guaranteed (!) to see nudity, and
I can see their point about determining content in
That's a funny thought - all those odes to Natalie Portman ending up enshrined forever in the CIA/NSA archives.