Microsoft is licensing VERY CHEAPLY their development and office tools and a huge database of technical information. Of COURSE they have a right to know the information about the person to whom they are sending this software.
The Internet and tools to access the Internet are available to you at a very low cost or free. Therefore, the Internet has the right to know your credit card number. Please include your credit card number, and you full name and address, in a reply to this post.
I was going to take the time to agree with this, but I'm going pack instead. Someone just copyrighted my house's location, so now I have to either move the house or get out.
I'm going to try to prove in court that the exact location they copyrighted is actually my garbage cans, so it's their job to take out the garbage from now on. Maybe if I'm lucky I'll win. But until then, bye!
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All (or at least most) tax-payer funded space research and missions should be privatized. A company can do things better, cheaper, and faster than a government can. NASA has been proving that for years...
NASA may seem bad, but since there has not yet been anything comparable to compare them to, your comparison doesn't hold water. Also, think about electrical suppliers in California. PG&E has been "proving" the opposite of your claim for quite a while now...
Besides, all NASA does is contract out to those same companies. It's not like they build the rockets themselves. "Privatization" just means that Congress is paying Boeing directly (instead of funding NASA, who then pay Boeing or whoever). That won't create more accountability - it'll create less! Congress can't be bothered with all the details of every spending bill. At best, they'll make a committee or create an organization to deal with space funding - which basically means they're recreating NASA.
Bids should be VERY open, so that there isn't any pork-belly pay-offs like are so common now, and there should be massive accountability with the funds (hey, thats MY money you just blew up...).
Yeah, we all know how private corporations are historically good at being accoutable for their spending (Savings and Loan bailout, anyone?). Also, I'm sure they can run an honest "VERY open" auction without anyone checking up on them.
The moon is 20 percent metal, 20 percent silicon, and 60 percent oxygen (not in an atmospere). It is the perfect place for solar harvesting. The panels could even be made in factories on the moon. It would be zero polution, as electricity is free on the moon, all you can eat.
And we will be eating electricity, because there's no food on the moon:) Unless those panels are built by robots (powered by what?) we'll need a place for at least a few people. Sure, they can set up greenhouses, but they need to free that oxygen, mine that metal, set up power plants, make the actual greenhouses... don't you get the feeling that this project might take a while? I mean, it was only 32 years ago that we just barely made it to the moon, and as this article suggests, we're still at the "our equipment goes out of control sometimes" stage. And it's just a little harder to get oxygen from rocks than from water. Speaking of which, you'll need water too.
It should be done, and it should be done immediately. Such an effort on the moon would change life as we know it here on earth, and could eliminate fossil fuel needs by 2010...
How were we going to transmit that power back to Earth? Oh, I get it - this is the start of a new science fiction story!
Seriously, I'm surprised that a post so full of speculation and conjecture got marked up so high. For example, replacing fossil fuels is a worthy goal, but really, why not just put more solar plants on Earth? Isn't putting them on the Moon just a bit of overkill? It's far easier to transmit power from sunny equatorial regions to the far reaches of the Earth than from the Moon to the same.
Yes, but the same could be said for any OS, including Windows CE. If an experienced Linux developer were creating both of these devices, I would expect that the costs of development would be lower for the Linux version.
I assume that you meant to go one step further and say something like this: For these developers and for this product, the costs of development, customization, et. al. were higher for the Linux version, and that this difference balances out the higher licensing cost of Windows CE.
My point was essentionally, what offers a juicier target to most hackers? Little known "Hi my name is Joe" sites, or various commercial ops?
I think your basic point about IIS servers being popular targets is correct. However, how many of those "Hi my name is joe" sites are run by people who have their own servers? I would guess that most of them are hosted by bigger and potentially more interesting targets (e.g. GeoCities, AOL, etc.).
Is this post by the same guy who wrote those other posts? Dang, slightly different writing style there.
You need to understand something about my "hyper-sensitive PC proclivities". It's not about "sensitivity", it's about "respect". I actually give a damn when someone else gets hurt (say, by an insult). Some people (not necessarily yourself - I do mean "some people I've met") seem to feel like attacking my beliefs because they interfere with the casual racism, sexism, homophobia, or whatever that these people have gotten used to. They also seem to dislike free speech when that speech disagrees with their beliefs (i.e. "Shut up you PC thug!" when I point out the slurs they're using). I consider these people to be jerks, and still I say something when they speak up.
In my posts, I'm trying to claim that nowadays, "Nip" is almost always used as a racial insult. This is the "context" I was referring to ("here and now"). As best I know, other people think of "Nip" as a racial insult too. Just because it was used another way in 1941 doesn't change how it's used now. This is why I thought "Nip" was a racial slur (This is also why using the word "Japanese" would have been much clearer).
Like I said in my other post, I apologize to you if you were falsely accused of posting a racist remark. I assumed that you thought of "Nip" as a racial slur, and that you said something racist. Apparently someone agreed, since I was not the original poster who commented on your remark. I don't apologize for getting confused by a confusing remark, or for speaking my mind. And I'm sure you're not apologizing for speaking your mind either. Fair enough.
Well, I apologize for basically claming that you were being racist if you didn't mean to be. On the other hand, I don't apologize for flaming you. It was not at all clear that you were referring to aircraft rather than people. The adjective "Nip" could have referred to the country, the pilot, the Japanese in general, a company called "Nip Aeronautics" which manufactured the craft, or just about anything else. Really, the phrase "Nip aircraft" is not the least bit clear. However, in my experience, the word "Nip" is almost always used as a racial slur (on the rare occasions when it's used at all), not to refer to aircraft. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the insult "Nip" is just a derogatory use of that word once used (more respectfully) to refer to the Imperial Japanese Navy, but not anymore. That's why someone flamed you for your choice of words, and why I said you were talking like you were in the past. "Nip" just really isn't used to refer to aircraft anymore.
May I recommend that next time, you say "Japanese" instead of "Nip"? That way it's 100% clear that you're talking about the planes, and clarity is an important part of writing.
I know it's essentially suicide to mention anything PRO-Microsoft, but I'm going to take the leap.
I keep seeing highly-rated articles which start like this. It's like everyone has some sort of psychosis. People, you can say good things about MS here on SlashDot - you'd just better be able to back them up.
I think you're misusing the word "context". You're alive and talking in the present, about a movie which was released in the last few days. If this were actually 1941, maybe you could get away with using the word "Nips", but it's not. When was the last time you heard a historian use the word "Nigger"? Never, because they know that they're talking about history, not trying to pretend that they're actually in the past.
Second, if you're going to insult the Japanese by calling them "Nips" , you'd better be ready to be called a "redneck", "hick", or even a "yankee" (an ironic insult, I guess). From my experience, un-PC types are quite surprised to learn that it goes both ways ("What, you mean those red/brown/black folk can call us names too?"). Get used to it.
So, is the game so much fun that it's worth the money to upgrade? Or should I stick with all the fun games I already have which run just fine on my "inferior" hardware?
You seem to be arguing that adaptive testing is entirely about collecting a database of responses. However, I'm pretty sure the article directly states that a programming error was made:
As it turned out, CTB despite its assurances to Indiana and others had done an incomplete job of reviewing test data. When a much larger sample was reviewed, a programming error surfaced.
So yes, bad software was written. Furthermore, since the error affected some but not all schools, I would assume that it's not a global problem with CTB's adaptive question database (i.e. having bad numbers for a few questions, which would have thrown every school off compared to prior years), but rather with some other part of the scoring software. Some components of CTB's software might potentially be Open-Sourced, in which case those people who were affected by CTB's error might have looked for the mistake (or more likely hired someone to look for the mistake) in the code. As long as this code could be released without giving away information on the test questions (a valid concern, of course), then someone would have a better chance of catching a company like CTB making an error. It would be one less opportunity for a proprietary process to proceed (correctly or incorrectly) without external review.
So yes, Open-Sourcing might have helped here, if done properly.
I think the space program lowers people's expectations. Building a table, growing plants, walking around outside. It's all very simple on the ground, but they did it... IN SPACE! Next maybe they'll build a wheel or something... ;)
That said, I get frustrated by some of [Google's] quirks.
That's the least of your problems.
Lastly, it's still not clear to me whether a search for "naked cheerleader" gives the same result as "naked cheerleaders". Hence, I tend to use OR and AND (+) a lot in my searches, which as I just said doesn't seem to work very well.
Here's your real problem. How can you tell that they're cheerleaders if they're naked?:o
Hehe. Lil'guy. In the old times we had: 8088, 8086, 80286, 386, 486sx, 486slc, 486dlc and NexGen which didn't had an internal Floating Point Unit. You had to buy an external one (8087, 80287, 387 and 487(a 387 for the 486dlc and slc).
Sorry for making myself sound younger than my actual age (26), but weren't they called "Math Co-Processors", not "External FPUs"?
Also, there were 386 SX and DX (the latter with a 32-bit data bus, I think?) CPUs. And 386sl - I had a laptop with one of those. Additionally, early 486SX's did have a built-in FPU. It just didn't work. They were broken 486DX's.
*Sigh*. All right, let me try to explain those "double standards" to you.
We* use distributions that come with literally thousands of programs. We complain when Microsoft adds a couple to their new OS/Distro.
The problem with MicroSoft isn't that they add programs to their OS, it's that they add exactly one of every program to their OS.
For example, a standard Linux distro comes with several web browsers. Netscape is standard, as is Lynx and nowadays, Konqueror. Others (Mozilla, Amaya, Galeon, Links, etc.) may be included depending on the particular distro.
MS, on the other hand, includes exactly one browser. By itself, this lends an air of "officialness" to the browser which its competitors lack. It's the browser which came with Windows. If that were the whole problem, nobody would complain too much except for makers of other browsers. Of course in reality MS bundles their browser, then tries to get developers to make webpages which only work with their browser, ties the browser into the OS in ways which competitors are not allowed to, etc.
In other words, the complaint isn't "look at the number of programs included in Windows". The complaint is "MS is trying to stifle choice". It's hard to lack choice when your Linux distro comes with four browsers, twenty-three word processors and/or text editors, and so on. MS, on the other hand, often uses new applications as leverage to stifle competitors and to sell their other products and services.
We call Windows bloated at 400MB, but when someone points out that distro X takes 7 CD's, we defend that distro
Distros include a whole lot more applications than what Windows provides. If Apache, Zope, a billion games, multiple desktops and window managers, twenty-three word processors, etc. cause the distro to take up 7 CDs, that's not the same as the OS plus a Web Browser and a handful of utility programs taking up 400MB. 7 Cds may be a lot of code, and having that much software in one distro may well be a bad idea, but "bloat" implies that the core of the program is too big. 400MB of Windows is functional, but minimally so, whereas 400MB of Linux distro is a lot. Likewise, when was the last time you saw a single floppy version of the Windows OS? (Okay, perhaps DOS is the single-floppy version of Windows. Lacks some features, doesn't it?:)
We're happy to use software that updates several times a month, some update daily. When Apple releases two patches in one month, we say their forcing people to update against their will or something.
Actually, looking at the thread so far, I don't see a lot of complaints about this. In fact, I see a lot of people complimenting Apple for quickly fixing the bugs in an OS which is known to have shipped in a pretty buggy state.
Unless you want to use a network card, SCSI card, IDE controller, sound card, CD or DVD drive, floppy drive, internal hard drive, external hard drive, modem, external FPU, RAM, or that light on the front of the case that tells you when you're accessing the hard drive (that isn't supported anyway).
Sounds like Linux -- except for the $279 price tag!
(please note: this is not flamebait, this is humor (and a little truth, admit it!)
Well, no... I do believe linux has support for most (all?) network and SCSI cards, both new (yes, up to ATA-100) and older IDE controllers, most sound cards, most CD and DVD-ROMs, floppies of various sorts (including SuperDisk and various Iomega crap), hard drives, modems, RAM, etc.
Now if you had said "winmodems", "winprinters", etc., THEN you might have something! (Okay, USB devices too...)
P.S. What the hell is an external FPU?!
P.P.S. This isn't me being anal. It's humor. Re-read the second paragraph if you don't believe me.
Just because it's old doesn't necessarily mean it's any good! Nostalgia is all well and good for a few minutes here and there, but let's face it - the majority of games were (and still are) utter dross!
As are the majority of modern games. And as with modern games, the bad games will get (mostly) ignored, and people will (mostly) play the good ones (like Bubble Bobble, which would be great in an online form). The interesting thing about MAME is that we can play those old, good games when we couldn't otherwise do so.
I guess I just don't understand the complaints about people who like "nostalgia" games. I assume that when someone lists their top 10 games (see the first post in this thread) they list those games because they think those games are good, not just because they're old or "nostalgic". Good old games are good games. Bad old games are ignored. And of course, being able to network good games is good, especially for games which are really designed to be multiplayer in the first place (e.g. Gauntlet).
They did say it takes 220 pounds of fuel to go 62 miles, right? Think about 62 miles as one moderately long commute, round trip. A bit inefficient, eh? Though I suppose they could make garbage trucks which were powered this technology...
Whats to say they can't have a mixed environment of both Linux and Windows machines? Sounds to me that M$ will be more worried about pilot programs using Linux instead of Windows in a company or the company jumping ship on M$ altogether. If I'm a company who is buying 500 "naked" PC's, M$ site license or not, it is NONE OF THEIR GOD DAMN BUISINESS that I bought the PC's without an OS.
Exactly! Even if piracy is a legitimate concern for MS, this may well boil down to randomly auditing suspects with no evidence that they've done anything wrong (including many people who are not even Windows users!)
ATT and it's siblings spent decades and billions of $$$ building their networks. Along comes DSL and some new start up's and now the Baby Bells are supposed to give up their networks to new competitors whose long term aim is to put them out of business. Does anybody here want to spend a few decades building a software or consulting business only to have to open it up to a new competitor?
Yeah! And for that matter, why should there be so many providers for long distance? We demand no choice, and we want it now! Let one company (per region) control all aspects of telecommunications! And while we're at it, let's allow those Baby Bells to battle each other over how to allow access to each other's networks. Don't let Bell South have access to Verizon's network! We want to be unable to call Atlanta from Los Angeles, and we want it now!
While we're on the subject, since the Internet developed out of ARPANET, the military should own the Internet, right? We want military control of the internet, and we want it now! (Or was the research which led to the Internet funded by taxpayer money and intended to benefit the average citizen?)
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Microsoft is licensing VERY CHEAPLY their development and office tools and a huge database of technical information. Of COURSE they have a right to know the information about the person to whom they are sending this software.
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The Internet and tools to access the Internet are available to you at a very low cost or free. Therefore, the Internet has the right to know your credit card number. Please include your credit card number, and you full name and address, in a reply to this post.
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There are ten figures... five knights and their five horses (sound effects and tropical nuts sold separately).
Well, would you rather watch any old basketball game, or one featuring your favorite team?
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Would you rather that your favorite team lost, or won?
What team do most people in Los Angeles root for?
And finally... can you guess what all this might have to do with the GPL and RMS?
I was going to take the time to agree with this, but I'm going pack instead. Someone just copyrighted my house's location, so now I have to either move the house or get out.
I'm going to try to prove in court that the exact location they copyrighted is actually my garbage cans, so it's their job to take out the garbage from now on. Maybe if I'm lucky I'll win. But until then, bye!
And if you run this through perl, it prints out:
"Hello, World!"
All (or at least most) tax-payer funded space research and missions should be privatized. A company can do things better, cheaper, and faster than a government can. NASA has been proving that for years...
:) Unless those panels are built by robots (powered by what?) we'll need a place for at least a few people. Sure, they can set up greenhouses, but they need to free that oxygen, mine that metal, set up power plants, make the actual greenhouses... don't you get the feeling that this project might take a while? I mean, it was only 32 years ago that we just barely made it to the moon, and as this article suggests, we're still at the "our equipment goes out of control sometimes" stage. And it's just a little harder to get oxygen from rocks than from water. Speaking of which, you'll need water too.
NASA may seem bad, but since there has not yet been anything comparable to compare them to, your comparison doesn't hold water. Also, think about electrical suppliers in California. PG&E has been "proving" the opposite of your claim for quite a while now...
Besides, all NASA does is contract out to those same companies. It's not like they build the rockets themselves. "Privatization" just means that Congress is paying Boeing directly (instead of funding NASA, who then pay Boeing or whoever). That won't create more accountability - it'll create less! Congress can't be bothered with all the details of every spending bill. At best, they'll make a committee or create an organization to deal with space funding - which basically means they're recreating NASA.
Bids should be VERY open, so that there isn't any pork-belly pay-offs like are so common now, and there should be massive accountability with the funds (hey, thats MY money you just blew up...).
Yeah, we all know how private corporations are historically good at being accoutable for their spending (Savings and Loan bailout, anyone?). Also, I'm sure they can run an honest "VERY open" auction without anyone checking up on them.
The moon is 20 percent metal, 20 percent silicon, and 60 percent oxygen (not in an atmospere). It is the perfect place for solar harvesting. The panels could even be made in factories on the moon. It would be zero polution, as electricity is free on the moon, all you can eat.
And we will be eating electricity, because there's no food on the moon
It should be done, and it should be done immediately. Such an effort on the moon would change life as we know it here on earth, and could eliminate fossil fuel needs by 2010...
How were we going to transmit that power back to Earth? Oh, I get it - this is the start of a new science fiction story!
Seriously, I'm surprised that a post so full of speculation and conjecture got marked up so high. For example, replacing fossil fuels is a worthy goal, but really, why not just put more solar plants on Earth? Isn't putting them on the Moon just a bit of overkill? It's far easier to transmit power from sunny equatorial regions to the far reaches of the Earth than from the Moon to the same.
Yes, but the same could be said for any OS, including Windows CE. If an experienced Linux developer were creating both of these devices, I would expect that the costs of development would be lower for the Linux version.
I assume that you meant to go one step further and say something like this: For these developers and for this product, the costs of development, customization, et. al. were higher for the Linux version, and that this difference balances out the higher licensing cost of Windows CE.
Exactly. This could all be a PR thing.
My point was essentionally, what offers a juicier target to most hackers? Little known "Hi my name is Joe" sites, or various commercial ops?
I think your basic point about IIS servers being popular targets is correct. However, how many of those "Hi my name is joe" sites are run by people who have their own servers? I would guess that most of them are hosted by bigger and potentially more interesting targets (e.g. GeoCities, AOL, etc.).
Is this post by the same guy who wrote those other posts? Dang, slightly different writing style there.
You need to understand something about my "hyper-sensitive PC proclivities". It's not about "sensitivity", it's about "respect". I actually give a damn when someone else gets hurt (say, by an insult). Some people (not necessarily yourself - I do mean "some people I've met") seem to feel like attacking my beliefs because they interfere with the casual racism, sexism, homophobia, or whatever that these people have gotten used to. They also seem to dislike free speech when that speech disagrees with their beliefs (i.e. "Shut up you PC thug!" when I point out the slurs they're using). I consider these people to be jerks, and still I say something when they speak up.
In my posts, I'm trying to claim that nowadays, "Nip" is almost always used as a racial insult. This is the "context" I was referring to ("here and now"). As best I know, other people think of "Nip" as a racial insult too. Just because it was used another way in 1941 doesn't change how it's used now. This is why I thought "Nip" was a racial slur (This is also why using the word "Japanese" would have been much clearer).
Like I said in my other post, I apologize to you if you were falsely accused of posting a racist remark. I assumed that you thought of "Nip" as a racial slur, and that you said something racist. Apparently someone agreed, since I was not the original poster who commented on your remark. I don't apologize for getting confused by a confusing remark, or for speaking my mind. And I'm sure you're not apologizing for speaking your mind either. Fair enough.
Well, I apologize for basically claming that you were being racist if you didn't mean to be. On the other hand, I don't apologize for flaming you. It was not at all clear that you were referring to aircraft rather than people. The adjective "Nip" could have referred to the country, the pilot, the Japanese in general, a company called "Nip Aeronautics" which manufactured the craft, or just about anything else. Really, the phrase "Nip aircraft" is not the least bit clear. However, in my experience, the word "Nip" is almost always used as a racial slur (on the rare occasions when it's used at all), not to refer to aircraft. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the insult "Nip" is just a derogatory use of that word once used (more respectfully) to refer to the Imperial Japanese Navy, but not anymore. That's why someone flamed you for your choice of words, and why I said you were talking like you were in the past. "Nip" just really isn't used to refer to aircraft anymore.
May I recommend that next time, you say "Japanese" instead of "Nip"? That way it's 100% clear that you're talking about the planes, and clarity is an important part of writing.
I know it's essentially suicide to mention anything PRO-Microsoft, but I'm going to take the leap.
I keep seeing highly-rated articles which start like this. It's like everyone has some sort of psychosis. People, you can say good things about MS here on SlashDot - you'd just better be able to back them up.
I think you're misusing the word "context". You're alive and talking in the present, about a movie which was released in the last few days. If this were actually 1941, maybe you could get away with using the word "Nips", but it's not. When was the last time you heard a historian use the word "Nigger"? Never, because they know that they're talking about history, not trying to pretend that they're actually in the past.
Second, if you're going to insult the Japanese by calling them "Nips" , you'd better be ready to be called a "redneck", "hick", or even a "yankee" (an ironic insult, I guess). From my experience, un-PC types are quite surprised to learn that it goes both ways ("What, you mean those red/brown/black folk can call us names too?"). Get used to it.
So, is the game so much fun that it's worth the money to upgrade? Or should I stick with all the fun games I already have which run just fine on my "inferior" hardware?
Perhaps someone needs to write an article called "Using sex to sell your editorial piece and get web-page hits".
You seem to be arguing that adaptive testing is entirely about collecting a database of responses. However, I'm pretty sure the article directly states that a programming error was made:
As it turned out, CTB despite its assurances to Indiana and others had done an incomplete job of reviewing test data. When a much larger sample was reviewed, a programming error surfaced.
So yes, bad software was written. Furthermore, since the error affected some but not all schools, I would assume that it's not a global problem with CTB's adaptive question database (i.e. having bad numbers for a few questions, which would have thrown every school off compared to prior years), but rather with some other part of the scoring software. Some components of CTB's software might potentially be Open-Sourced, in which case those people who were affected by CTB's error might have looked for the mistake (or more likely hired someone to look for the mistake) in the code. As long as this code could be released without giving away information on the test questions (a valid concern, of course), then someone would have a better chance of catching a company like CTB making an error. It would be one less opportunity for a proprietary process to proceed (correctly or incorrectly) without external review.
So yes, Open-Sourcing might have helped here, if done properly.
I think the space program lowers people's expectations. Building a table, growing plants, walking around outside. It's all very simple on the ground, but they did it... IN SPACE! Next maybe they'll build a wheel or something...
;)
That said, I get frustrated by some of [Google's] quirks.
:o
That's the least of your problems.
Lastly, it's still not clear to me whether a search for "naked cheerleader" gives the same result as "naked cheerleaders". Hence, I tend to use OR and AND (+) a lot in my searches, which as I just said doesn't seem to work very well.
Here's your real problem. How can you tell that they're cheerleaders if they're naked?
Hehe. Lil'guy. In the old times we had: 8088, 8086, 80286, 386, 486sx, 486slc, 486dlc and NexGen which didn't had an internal Floating Point Unit. You had to buy an external one (8087, 80287, 387 and 487(a 387 for the 486dlc and slc).
Sorry for making myself sound younger than my actual age (26), but weren't they called "Math Co-Processors", not "External FPUs"?
Also, there were 386 SX and DX (the latter with a 32-bit data bus, I think?) CPUs. And 386sl - I had a laptop with one of those. Additionally, early 486SX's did have a built-in FPU. It just didn't work. They were broken 486DX's.
*Sigh*. All right, let me try to explain those "double standards" to you.
:)
We* use distributions that come with literally thousands of programs. We complain when Microsoft adds a couple to their new OS/Distro.
The problem with MicroSoft isn't that they add programs to their OS, it's that they add exactly one of every program to their OS.
For example, a standard Linux distro comes with several web browsers. Netscape is standard, as is Lynx and nowadays, Konqueror. Others (Mozilla, Amaya, Galeon, Links, etc.) may be included depending on the particular distro.
MS, on the other hand, includes exactly one browser. By itself, this lends an air of "officialness" to the browser which its competitors lack. It's the browser which came with Windows. If that were the whole problem, nobody would complain too much except for makers of other browsers. Of course in reality MS bundles their browser, then tries to get developers to make webpages which only work with their browser, ties the browser into the OS in ways which competitors are not allowed to, etc.
In other words, the complaint isn't "look at the number of programs included in Windows". The complaint is "MS is trying to stifle choice". It's hard to lack choice when your Linux distro comes with four browsers, twenty-three word processors and/or text editors, and so on. MS, on the other hand, often uses new applications as leverage to stifle competitors and to sell their other products and services.
We call Windows bloated at 400MB, but when someone points out that distro X takes 7 CD's, we defend that distro
Distros include a whole lot more applications than what Windows provides. If Apache, Zope, a billion games, multiple desktops and window managers, twenty-three word processors, etc. cause the distro to take up 7 CDs, that's not the same as the OS plus a Web Browser and a handful of utility programs taking up 400MB. 7 Cds may be a lot of code, and having that much software in one distro may well be a bad idea, but "bloat" implies that the core of the program is too big. 400MB of Windows is functional, but minimally so, whereas 400MB of Linux distro is a lot. Likewise, when was the last time you saw a single floppy version of the Windows OS? (Okay, perhaps DOS is the single-floppy version of Windows. Lacks some features, doesn't it?
We're happy to use software that updates several times a month, some update daily. When Apple releases two patches in one month, we say their forcing people to update against their will or something.
Actually, looking at the thread so far, I don't see a lot of complaints about this. In fact, I see a lot of people complimenting Apple for quickly fixing the bugs in an OS which is known to have shipped in a pretty buggy state.
Unless you want to use a network card, SCSI card, IDE controller, sound card, CD or DVD drive, floppy drive, internal hard drive, external hard drive, modem, external FPU, RAM, or that light on the front of the case that tells you when you're accessing the hard drive (that isn't supported anyway).
Sounds like Linux -- except for the $279 price tag!
(please note: this is not flamebait, this is humor (and a little truth, admit it!)
Well, no... I do believe linux has support for most (all?) network and SCSI cards, both new (yes, up to ATA-100) and older IDE controllers, most sound cards, most CD and DVD-ROMs, floppies of various sorts (including SuperDisk and various Iomega crap), hard drives, modems, RAM, etc.
Now if you had said "winmodems", "winprinters", etc., THEN you might have something! (Okay, USB devices too...)
P.S. What the hell is an external FPU?!
P.P.S. This isn't me being anal. It's humor. Re-read the second paragraph if you don't believe me.
Just because it's old doesn't necessarily mean it's any good! Nostalgia is all well and good for a few minutes here and there, but let's face it - the majority of games were (and still are) utter dross!
As are the majority of modern games. And as with modern games, the bad games will get (mostly) ignored, and people will (mostly) play the good ones (like Bubble Bobble, which would be great in an online form). The interesting thing about MAME is that we can play those old, good games when we couldn't otherwise do so.
I guess I just don't understand the complaints about people who like "nostalgia" games. I assume that when someone lists their top 10 games (see the first post in this thread) they list those games because they think those games are good, not just because they're old or "nostalgic". Good old games are good games. Bad old games are ignored. And of course, being able to network good games is good, especially for games which are really designed to be multiplayer in the first place (e.g. Gauntlet).
They did say it takes 220 pounds of fuel to go 62 miles, right? Think about 62 miles as one moderately long commute, round trip. A bit inefficient, eh? Though I suppose they could make garbage trucks which were powered this technology...
Whats to say they can't have a mixed environment of both Linux and Windows machines? Sounds to me that M$ will be more worried about pilot programs using Linux instead of Windows in a company or the company jumping ship on M$ altogether. If I'm a company who is buying 500 "naked" PC's, M$ site license or not, it is NONE OF THEIR GOD DAMN BUISINESS that I bought the PC's without an OS.
Exactly! Even if piracy is a legitimate concern for MS, this may well boil down to randomly auditing suspects with no evidence that they've done anything wrong (including many people who are not even Windows users!)
ATT and it's siblings spent decades and billions of $$$ building their networks. Along comes DSL and some new start up's and now the Baby Bells are supposed to give up their networks to new competitors whose long term aim is to put them out of business. Does anybody here want to spend a few decades building a software or consulting business only to have to open it up to a new competitor?
Yeah! And for that matter, why should there be so many providers for long distance? We demand no choice, and we want it now! Let one company (per region) control all aspects of telecommunications! And while we're at it, let's allow those Baby Bells to battle each other over how to allow access to each other's networks. Don't let Bell South have access to Verizon's network! We want to be unable to call Atlanta from Los Angeles, and we want it now!
While we're on the subject, since the Internet developed out of ARPANET, the military should own the Internet, right? We want military control of the internet, and we want it now! (Or was the research which led to the Internet funded by taxpayer money and intended to benefit the average citizen?)