What actually happened was I was told by an admin with more seniority to provide a log of a user's e-mail activity. It was an order handed down from the COO.
I asked for a valid reason. None was supplied. I refused and went to the CFO and the Vp of MIS. They then implemented a policy of checks and balances, that any decision about invading a user's privacy had to be signed by them and put before the CEO.
I'm still there, 6 months later (can't say I will much longer). Of course, we have a pretty liberal group of individuals in management (except for the aforementioned COO), I'm considered the golden kid, and it has a bit of a family atmosphere there.
The employee, well, the employee was fired anyways. But I may save others privacy.
As for me, I "accidentally" violate people's privacy. sometimes I notice some exec's personal assistant mailing someone in one of our subsidiaries (who she has no business talking to).
Let's stop arguing with the astroturf campaign people. It gets old after awhile, and sometimes can make you angry when dealing with Microsoftians. And when you get angry, and spout a bunch of insults us look stupid. Better to just ignore them, they may eventually go away. Just contuing to use Linux and posting your good experiences with it or contuing to develop Linux (if you're a developer) will probably give the Linux community a better image in the long run.
You should live here in SoCal. The ISP I have (a company I once worked for, now work for a parent company) takes care of everything. The network provider is GTE, and they were the only nightmare to deal with. Rebuilt my phone line as a DSL a day early. Didn't come the day they were supposed to. Had to have my line rebuilt as a regular line. But we got on the phone and they came Monday at noon. Haven't had a problem since! And I get away with only paying GTE charges too.
This happens whenever you have your production file and print servers running the main backup server. I hope you guys aren't doing something as stupid as the Novell admin at my work.
At our work it has. Especially when we were using 4.10. It was crashing all the time.
Even 5 has had it's kinks. Though I suspect the Novell admin isn't too good at what he does. I have a P200 with 128 Megs of RAM doing DHCP, DNS, mail for 150 users,some light file sharing, and my test server for mod_perl programs and database connectivty.
But to say that Rob could afford mission critical hardware and setups is kinda ridiculous. I wonder how the guy pays for his bandwith bills.
Try running a site on NT with IIS and SQL Server on the same server, along with IIS serving out dynamic content to more than 700,000 hits/day (I believe that's what the last count was). I've never seen a single NT box do that. To even get little more than half that, I need to setup two NT IIS servers behind a load balancing switch and a seperate machine running the RDBMS.
Now, if he wanted to (or could afford to), Rob could sit his mod_per processes and Mysql on a seperate box. It woulld solve ALOT of his problems.
f the placebo works for you go with it. But it's still a sugar pill to me. Also, no offense, I do not believe you have read The Moral Animal. I'm guessing, but given your age and the fact that the book is relatively new, it would have overlapped (most probably) with your religious years.
I am constantly challenged to read such books. Also, please note I do not make any religious arguments. I expound upon my spirituality. I do not believe in the church.
It is also not typical to read when you are 16.
I am not your typical 16 year old, if you've read the above. Again, we can continue via email, if you wish.
Im sorry, but I just find that statement pathetic. Just because it is a comfort to believe doesn't mean your not eating a placebo. I would like to think the S&P 500 is going to keep going up for 25 more years so I can retire, but that doesn't mean it will. Paroxically, it is the way of strength for me. So what if I'm taking a placebo? It's working for me, and I lose nothing by believing as I do. This hardly sounds like the words of GOD. The bible was written by the Roman Catholic Church in the 1st century. The bible is the Church's book and is an instrument to serve the Church. Hardly. It is a book written by many.
>No offense, but I find reading the bible about >equally exciting as reading the back of >sugar packets.
Well, we don't seek the same things from the book.
>A few? That's an understatement.
>"Therefore be on your guard against the Jews, >knowing that wherever they have their >synagogues, nothing is found but a den of >devils in which sheer self-glory, conceit, >lies, blasphemy, and defaming of God and men >are practiced most maliciously and >veheming his eyes on them."
I don't understand the point of reading this book.
>He was the first Hitler. There is a stronger >link between Hitler and Luther than there is >between Hitler and Darwin, by far.
How did Hitler become a part of this? That's really extreme, and would probably belittle the suffering the Jewish people went through. I never attacked Darwin's system. For all I know, evolution happened.
Listen, I never said I associate with a church. I also said that the Bible doesn't neccesarily have anything to do with the church. Upon further examination, you'll find that Christ never went on about any setting up of a church or theological discussions.
I presonally do not find God in the worldly clamors and singing of church, nor in the dogma or the legislation of morals into law by the likes of Jesse Helms. I find my faith in helping others. I found my faith through my own life experiences.
I have read The Moral Animal. I've also read alot of Chomsky, a lot of Marx, all of Nietsche, Darwin. I used to believe strongly in all of what these writers wrote. It got me to a life of hell on Earth (read below). I have a reliance on a higher power now that relieves me. I don't try to push it like an addictive drug on to small children and Linux geeks.
>Ex catholic that went through confirmation and >almost became a priest. A complete >waste of youth, more than you can understand. >I'm forever atheist. God didn't create >morals, reciprocal altruism did. All animals have >a kind of morality and we are clearly >animals.
I also was an ex-catholic. However, I'm not a catholic and I feel that it's unfair to compare our situations. I didn't turn to a higher power (what I choose to call God) because someone preached at me, but because it (I believe ) was the thing that saved me from myself.
I spent endless nights at the age of 15 in alleys in Tacoma, Washington. I knew drinking was killing me and getting me in to more trouble, but I couldn't stop. I found myself all of sudden sent to a detox and rehab program, and people helped me out, where my family wouldn't. I can only call that a miracle. After two years of being off drugs and alcohol, I was going crazy, and I was beyond wanting a drink. I wanted to kill myself. I felt myself asking for help in prayer (I was still pretty atheist at this point) , and I got relief. I am now 18. I've gone from a 16 year old kid picked off the street with a GED and one year of high school to being in charge of a department of web developers and Senior Unix administrator.
Call it luck, but I believe it was God working in my life. I trust that my God will work it all out, and I don't have to struggle anymore. That's all. A simple reliance upon a power greater than myself and trying to be of use wherever I go. No preaching.
If you want to discuss this via email, it's justin@pajo.com
Sometimes I wonder by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March >I would have to agree, since I read the bible so >as to further be capable of demonstrating >the utter stupidity of the religions which use >it as a foundation.
If you read the book I mention, you may learn that the Bible is not a book to be read literally.
>If you read Martin Luther's "On The Jews and >Their Lies", I will read "Sermon on the >Mount". The bible isn't necessarily paranormal >nonsense, it's just nonsense with some >history mixed in for good measure. I would >consider it superstition before I would >consider it paranormal.
I sure will. However, it sounds like the book may have a few anti-semitic overtones. I don't believe you'll find Emmet declaring anybody a liar in his book. It's interesting to note that he was largely criticized by a large part of the christian community for taking a radical departure from alot of the commonly held beliefs of his time.
I used to talk alot like you, and was a hardcore atheist. It changed for me (I'm not saying it will or won't for you).
I feel it should be noted here that reading the Bible does not automatically qualify you as belonging to a religion. And if you think alot of the Bible is paranomal nonsense, I invite you to read Emmet Fox's "Sermon on the Mount".
One of the things I learned from science is that just because you you can't see, hear, touch, taste, or smell, doesn't mean it's not true/doesn't exist.
Man, some people give Aries a hard break. That's cool, though. I'll just use those electrical bolts to fry these people that infest MY Aries hating universe.
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You are, of course, correct. But having children and taking care of them, if done with love and keeping them first in your mind, can be one of the greatest self-sacrifices. I kind of long to have a kid (or two -- maybe), and I feel like I would make a good father, if given the chance. I love children.
BTW, I am not a crazy christian. I have spiritual faith and believe in God, but don't find either in churches.
Actually, with auto mounting and NIS, it's possible for shares to get mounted on different machines. Also, if sudo is setup, it's possible for trusted individuals to setup groups, and with ACL's, it's possible to setup per user access to files.
I believe that Linux has been capable of kernel level preemptive threads since version 1.3.xx, and that it is capable of using as many processors, if not more, than the author claims of Windows NT. However, I started dismissing the guy as a FUD monger when he started to suggest that NT == VMS, because members of the VMS team at Digital worked on NT. Wouldn't Microsoft be in deep sh*t if the VMS guys used anything resembling VMS? Don't they have to sign NDA's?
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When it happened to me, I raised a big stink.
What actually happened was I was told by an admin with more seniority to provide a log of a user's e-mail activity. It was an order handed down from the COO.
I asked for a valid reason. None was supplied. I refused and went to the CFO and the Vp of MIS. They then implemented a policy of checks and balances, that any decision about invading a user's privacy had to be signed by them and put before the CEO.
I'm still there, 6 months later (can't say I will much longer). Of course, we have a pretty liberal group of individuals in management (except for the aforementioned COO), I'm considered the golden kid, and it has a bit of a family atmosphere there.
The employee, well, the employee was fired anyways. But I may save others privacy.
As for me, I "accidentally" violate people's privacy. sometimes I notice some exec's personal assistant mailing someone in one of our subsidiaries (who she has no business talking to).
Let's stop arguing with the astroturf campaign people. It gets old after awhile, and sometimes can make you angry when dealing with Microsoftians. And when you get angry, and spout a bunch of insults us look stupid. Better to just ignore them, they may eventually go away. Just contuing to use Linux and posting your good experiences with it or contuing to develop Linux (if you're a developer) will probably give the Linux community a better image in the long run.
...the spare cycles of on Sun Enterprise 5500 box I have at work. Yum, 6 processors.
You should live here in SoCal. The ISP I have (a company I once worked for, now work for a parent company) takes care of everything. The network provider is GTE, and they were the only nightmare to deal with. Rebuilt my phone line as a DSL a day early. Didn't come the day they were supposed to. Had to have my line rebuilt as a regular line. But we got on the phone and they came Monday at noon. Haven't had a problem since! And I get away with only paying GTE charges too.
This happens whenever you have your production file and print servers running the main backup server. I hope you guys aren't doing something as stupid as the Novell admin at my work.
At our work it has. Especially when we were using 4.10. It was crashing all the time.
,some light file sharing, and my test server for mod_perl programs and database connectivty.
Even 5 has had it's kinks. Though I suspect the Novell admin isn't too good at what he does. I have a P200 with 128 Megs of RAM doing DHCP, DNS, mail for 150 users
But to say that Rob could afford mission critical hardware and setups is kinda ridiculous. I wonder how the guy pays for his bandwith bills.
Try running a site on NT with IIS and SQL Server on the same server, along with IIS serving out dynamic content to more than 700,000 hits/day (I believe that's what the last count was). I've never seen a single NT box do that. To even get little more than half that, I need to setup two NT
IIS servers behind a load balancing switch and a seperate machine running the RDBMS.
Now, if he wanted to (or could afford to), Rob could sit his mod_per processes and Mysql on a seperate box. It woulld solve ALOT of his problems.
Anyways, I not primarily a programmer. I only had maybe 2000 lines, but my job is mainly system and network administration right now.
[jream@cheesewhiz jream]$ telnet www.dafirm.com 80 Trying 208.8.213.29... Connected to www.dafirm.com. Escape character is '^]'. GET HTTP11.1 HTTP/1.1 400 Bad Request Server: Microsoft-IIS/4.0 Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 22:30:27 GMT Content-Type: text/html Content-Length: 87 ErrorThe parameter is incorrect. Connection closed by foreign host. [jream@cheesewhiz jream]$
f the placebo works for you go with it. But it's still a sugar pill to me.
Also, no offense, I do not believe you have read The Moral Animal. I'm guessing, but
given your age and the fact that the book is relatively new, it would have overlapped
(most probably) with your religious years.
I am constantly challenged to read such books.
Also, please note I do not make any religious arguments. I expound upon my spirituality. I do not believe in the church.
It is also not typical to read when you are 16.
I am not your typical 16 year old, if you've read the above. Again, we can continue via email, if you wish.
justin@pajo.com
Im sorry, but I just find that statement pathetic. Just because it is a comfort to believe doesn't mean your not eating a placebo. I would like to think the S&P 500 is going to keep going up for 25 more years so I can retire, but that doesn't mean it will. Paroxically, it is the way of strength for me. So what if I'm taking a placebo? It's working for me, and I lose nothing by believing as I do. This hardly sounds like the words of GOD. The bible was written by the Roman Catholic Church in the 1st century. The bible is the Church's book and is an instrument to serve the Church. Hardly. It is a book written by many.
>No offense, but I find reading the bible about >equally exciting as reading the back of
>sugar packets.
Well, we don't seek the same things from the
book.
>A few? That's an understatement.
>"Therefore be on your guard against the Jews,
>knowing that wherever they have their
>synagogues, nothing is found but a den of
>devils in which sheer self-glory, conceit,
>lies, blasphemy, and defaming of God and men
>are practiced most maliciously and
>veheming his eyes on them."
I don't understand the point of reading this book.
>He was the first Hitler. There is a stronger
>link between Hitler and Luther than there is
>between Hitler and Darwin, by far.
How did Hitler become a part of this? That's
really extreme, and would probably belittle the
suffering the Jewish people went through. I never
attacked Darwin's system. For all I know,
evolution happened.
Listen, I never said I associate with a church.
I also said that the Bible doesn't neccesarily
have anything to do with the church. Upon further
examination, you'll find that Christ never went
on about any setting up of a church or theological
discussions.
I presonally do not find God in the worldly
clamors and singing of church, nor in the dogma
or the legislation of morals into law by the likes
of Jesse Helms. I find my faith in helping
others. I found my faith through my own life experiences.
I have read The Moral Animal. I've also read
alot of Chomsky, a lot of Marx, all of Nietsche,
Darwin. I used to believe strongly in all of
what these writers wrote. It got me to a life
of hell on Earth (read below). I have a reliance
on a higher power now that relieves me. I don't
try to push it like an addictive drug on to
small children and Linux geeks.
>Ex catholic that went through confirmation and
>almost became a priest. A complete
>waste of youth, more than you can understand.
>I'm forever atheist. God didn't create >morals, reciprocal altruism did. All animals have >a kind of morality and we are clearly >animals.
I also was an ex-catholic. However, I'm not a
catholic and I feel that it's unfair to compare
our situations. I didn't turn to a higher power
(what I choose to call God) because someone
preached at me, but because it (I believe ) was
the thing that saved me from myself.
I spent endless nights at the age of 15 in alleys
in Tacoma, Washington. I knew drinking was
killing me and getting me in to more trouble, but
I couldn't stop. I found myself all of sudden
sent to a detox and rehab program, and people
helped me out, where my family wouldn't. I can
only call that a miracle. After two years of
being off drugs and alcohol, I was going crazy,
and I was beyond wanting a drink. I wanted to
kill myself. I felt myself asking for help in
prayer (I was still pretty atheist at this point)
, and I got relief. I am now 18. I've gone from
a 16 year old kid picked off the street with a
GED and one year of high school to being in charge
of a department of web developers and Senior
Unix administrator.
Call it luck, but I believe it was God working in
my life. I trust that my God will work it all
out, and I don't have to struggle anymore. That's
all. A simple reliance upon a power greater than
myself and trying to be of use wherever I go. No
preaching.
If you want to discuss this via email,
it's justin@pajo.com
Sometimes I wonder
by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March >I would have to agree, since I read the bible so >as to further be capable of demonstrating
>the utter stupidity of the religions which use
>it as a foundation.
If you read the book I mention, you may learn that the Bible is not a book to be read literally.
>If you read Martin Luther's "On The Jews and >Their Lies", I will read "Sermon on the
>Mount". The bible isn't necessarily paranormal >nonsense, it's just nonsense with some
>history mixed in for good measure. I would >consider it superstition before I would
>consider it paranormal.
I sure will. However, it sounds like the book may have a few anti-semitic overtones. I don't believe you'll find Emmet declaring anybody a liar in his book. It's interesting to note that he was largely criticized by a large part of the christian community for taking a radical departure from alot of the commonly held beliefs of his time.
I used to talk alot like you, and was a hardcore atheist. It changed for me (I'm not saying it will or won't for you).
SPiKe
Ex street rat/gutter punk
I feel it should be noted here that reading the Bible does not automatically qualify you as belonging to a religion. And if you think alot of the Bible is paranomal nonsense, I invite you to read Emmet Fox's "Sermon on the Mount".
One of the things I learned from science is that just because you you can't see, hear, touch, taste, or smell, doesn't mean it's not true/doesn't exist.
I resent that.
Man, some people give Aries a hard break. That's
cool, though. I'll just use those electrical
bolts to fry these people that infest MY Aries
hating universe.
You are, of course, correct. But having children and taking care of them, if done with love and keeping them first in your mind, can be one of the greatest self-sacrifices. I kind of long to have a kid (or two -- maybe), and I feel like I would make a good father, if given the chance. I love children.
BTW, I am not a crazy christian. I have spiritual faith and believe in God, but don't find either in churches.
Actually, with auto mounting and NIS, it's possible for shares to get mounted on different machines. Also, if sudo is setup, it's possible for trusted individuals to setup groups, and with ACL's, it's possible to setup per user access to files.
I believe that Linux has been capable of kernel
level preemptive threads since version 1.3.xx, and that it is capable of using as many processors, if not more, than the author claims of Windows NT.
However, I started dismissing the guy as a FUD monger when he started to suggest that NT == VMS, because members of the VMS team at Digital worked on NT. Wouldn't Microsoft be in deep sh*t if the VMS guys used anything resembling VMS? Don't they have to sign NDA's?
Hmmm. First, that laws really kind of silly and
(maybe I'm being a little too harsh here) draconian.
Second, drinking's kind of overrated anyways.
Not very open if it's 21+. Seriously.