I just read the legal document on Apogee's site, and most of it doesn't excite me much. I'm fairly sure that using Apogee's trademarks in the context of an article or review falls under fair use, and that there is nothing to get up in arms about. They are simply talking legalese for "you can't steal our graphics and put them in your site". If they're not, then they are just blowing hot air, because they won't get anywhere in court. The thing that *does* rub my rhubarb the wrong way is the assertion that one may not place their site in a frameset.
The problem with Boycotting something is that normally it takes a certain size to be measurable by the company being targeted, case in point the Amazon attempt here a few month back.
Well...does anyone want to set up a similar Ebay boycott site? I'm sure there are quite a few people here with the needed scripting skills to do so. I'd certainly register myself with the boycott. Sure, it won't do anything, and M$ will still win, but one more drop in the F U pool is good enough for me...
The scary part is things similar to this that HAVEN'T been found.
I have to say this topic has been quite a bit unnerving. I'm a web developer like many of you are out there, I imagine. I am responsible for designing and programming small to medium size web applications for my company. I can use M$ products if I want, or I can use open source products. It's my call, but also my ass on the line.
I am a good programmer, but I am *not* a security expert, nor do I have the time to learn how to be one on top of my other responsibilities. I don't want to use M$ products like IIS and ASP, but I know that if I do - and if a bug or security hole is found - it will pretty much be written off as M$' fault, and not mine, although I will probably have to go back and fix the damage
However, I choose open source software, and we get hacked, my company will *definitely* view it as my fault. Now, I'm not one to play it safe, and I've got Linux/Apache/MySQL/PHP/Perl running all over the place, but still.....this topic makes me worry.
Does anyone else have any thoughts on this? Feel the same way as me?
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I just read the legal document on Apogee's site, and most of it doesn't excite me much. I'm fairly sure that using Apogee's trademarks in the context of an article or review falls under fair use, and that there is nothing to get up in arms about. They are simply talking legalese for "you can't steal our graphics and put them in your site". If they're not, then they are just blowing hot air, because they won't get anywhere in court. The thing that *does* rub my rhubarb the wrong way is the assertion that one may not place their site in a frameset.
The problem with Boycotting something is that normally it takes a certain size to be measurable by the company being targeted, case in point the Amazon attempt here a few month back.
Well...does anyone want to set up a similar Ebay boycott site? I'm sure there are quite a few people here with the needed scripting skills to do so. I'd certainly register myself with the boycott. Sure, it won't do anything, and M$ will still win, but one more drop in the F U pool is good enough for me...
The scary part is things similar to this that HAVEN'T been found.
I have to say this topic has been quite a bit unnerving. I'm a web developer like many of you are out there, I imagine. I am responsible for designing and programming small to medium size web applications for my company. I can use M$ products if I want, or I can use open source products. It's my call, but also my ass on the line.
I am a good programmer, but I am *not* a security expert, nor do I have the time to learn how to be one on top of my other responsibilities. I don't want to use M$ products like IIS and ASP, but I know that if I do - and if a bug or security hole is found - it will pretty much be written off as M$' fault, and not mine, although I will probably have to go back and fix the damage
However, I choose open source software, and we get hacked, my company will *definitely* view it as my fault. Now, I'm not one to play it safe, and I've got Linux/Apache/MySQL/PHP/Perl running all over the place, but still.....this topic makes me worry.
Does anyone else have any thoughts on this? Feel the same way as me?