I like that Linux is growing and all, but one of the reasons I like it is that the level of skill needed to run it is fairly high. Well, was farily high, back in the 1.2.x days.. But, it keeps getting lower and lower, now a Linux user does not automaticaly == skilled person. Kinda strange.. I think the movement has shot itself in the foot on this one. Sure we want Linux to become more widely used. But WHY? Not just because it is better, but because at the time most people thought more Linux users -> more skilled people. Just my utterly worthless two cents in a comment that will probably get moderated down to -32767.
Libsafe is rather neet, however I havn't had much success getting it to work on anything but linux. Fortunantly, BSD has (and has had for a few years) this nifty little libc patch called libparanoia, which does much the same thing.
Having been mentioned in the logs myself, and knowing who the people are, I have to state that their even bigger morons than I thought. "Go ask MadCamel".. it is amazing that these kids can run around rooting boxes, yet do not know the most basic unix commands. They have a very elitist attitude ("we will never get caught, we're better than them"), yet they get trapped and logged by your run-of-the-mill honeypot. I do admit however, that they have potential to be talented coders, security experts, and even admins. That is, in part, why I associate myself with these people. I want to steer them in the right direction, show them that unix zen isn't just./hack./hack, you can get just as much satisfaction hacking net.inet.tcp.bongload into a BSD kernel[don't even ASK what this does btw]. These kids arn't criminals, they arn't even lame. Their just very misguided, and if people do not start guiding them in the right directions, they will end up being guided by the law, which is a Bad Thing(tm). This particular little group I had given up on long before any of these logs were taken. They were bent on getting 'respect from their peers'. They would not listen to any reason because they 'couldnt be caught'. It's rather sad actualy, but oh well. some can't be helped. I'm content in the fact that I have gotten at least a few of the script kids I know to see the light.
Forget multiprocessor Athalon, I want multiprocessor K6.I've posted on thi before, and have done some more studying, it IS possible. If sombody would make a chipset to support it. AMD should really pay more attention to the multiprocessor market, their chips are inexpensive enough to make it worthwhile.
The problem with this whole thing is that it continues to lead people into believing that RedHat == Linux. Countless times I've been asked to help out with a linux system, I ask them what version, and they say "6.2" or the like. There isn't much to be done by this, except perhaps labeling it as Linux, RedHat.
I don't know if anyone has noticed, but there are ports of numerous MS products to Solaris, including IE. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I have worked a bit with Solaris and find it very BSD-ish. It seems to be a tangle, consisting of the "best"(read: what Sun thinks is the best) of BSD and the "best" of sysv.
In any case, I would have to say that the Sun ports are a far cry closer to having the applications run on BSD-ish systems. This will never happen, however, as long as MS holds their anti-open-source attitudes. Notice there are no ports of any MS applications to Solaris 8. Perhaps they are afraid the underlying syscalls will be tampered with, revealing (very vaguely) their code, and how it works.
Considering that by the time they get it in to space, it's quite obsolete, I see no problem with this. You have to admit, smashing up an 8088 with a sledgehammer is quite fun.. Not to say that's how I (or NASA) get my jollies;P
I know, you would think that they would, not just for Athalon but for K6 also. Lets see here, K6-450's = ~$100.. so for $400 and the motherboard (lets assume another $400), you could have a dirt cheap 1800mhz SMP system. They could make a fortune selling to the broke *nix geek crowd! From what I have read, it seems that K6 and Athalon are perfectly capible of SMP, providing sombody starts making a chipset that can do it. It really is a shame that they have not done this yet.
Help,/. is being invaded by mentally unstable marmots intent on flinging their entrials at people! Ok, not quite, but I have noticed a few trolls around today, and almost a complete lack of good posting. Yes, I know, by posting this I'm submitting to the marmot syndrome everyone else seems to have today..
Compare memory prices to the stock market. There are many similarities. My point is, they will go up, and they will drop back down. Wait a few months and you'll be able to find dirt cheap RAM. I like it this way, you can get some very good deals when they have an "excess".
This is WAAAY off topic, however I happen to agree. The proliferation of the RPM format is rather disgusting. Not everybody runs redhat, and there are those of us that treasure the cleanlyness of our filesystems. If developers want to release RPM, that is just fine, but whatever happened to good old tar.gz ?
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I like that Linux is growing and all, but one of the reasons I like it is that the level of skill needed to run it is fairly high. Well, was farily high, back in the 1.2.x days.. But, it keeps getting lower and lower, now a Linux user does not automaticaly == skilled person. Kinda strange.. I think the movement has shot itself in the foot on this one. Sure we want Linux to become more widely used. But WHY? Not just because it is better, but because at the time most people thought more Linux users -> more skilled people. Just my utterly worthless two cents in a comment that will probably get moderated down to -32767.
Libsafe is rather neet, however I havn't had much success getting it to work on anything but linux. Fortunantly, BSD has (and has had for a few years) this nifty little libc patch called libparanoia, which does much the same thing.
Having been mentioned in the logs myself, and knowing who the people are, I have to state that their even bigger morons than I thought. "Go ask MadCamel".. it is amazing that these kids can run around rooting boxes, yet do not know the most basic unix commands. They have a very elitist attitude ("we will never get caught, we're better than them"), yet they get trapped and logged by your run-of-the-mill honeypot. I do admit however, that they have potential to be talented coders, security experts, and even admins. That is, in part, why I associate myself with these people. I want to steer them in the right direction, show them that unix zen isn't just ./hack ./hack, you can get just as much satisfaction hacking net.inet.tcp.bongload into a BSD kernel[don't even ASK what this does btw]. These kids arn't criminals, they arn't even lame. Their just very misguided, and if people do not start guiding them in the right directions, they will end up being guided by the law, which is a Bad Thing(tm). This particular little group I had given up on long before any of these logs were taken. They were bent on getting 'respect from their peers'. They would not listen to any reason because they 'couldnt be caught'. It's rather sad actualy, but oh well. some can't be helped. I'm content in the fact that I have gotten at least a few of the script kids I know to see the light.
That's very good to hear. At least AMD isn't sitting on their laurels.
Forget multiprocessor Athalon, I want multiprocessor K6.I've posted on thi before, and have done some more studying, it IS possible. If sombody would make a chipset to support it. AMD should really pay more attention to the multiprocessor market, their chips are inexpensive enough to make it worthwhile.
The problem with this whole thing is that it continues to lead people into believing that RedHat == Linux. Countless times I've been asked to help out with a linux system, I ask them what version, and they say "6.2" or the like. There isn't much to be done by this, except perhaps labeling it as Linux, RedHat.
I don't know if anyone has noticed, but there are ports of numerous MS products to Solaris, including IE. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I have worked a bit with Solaris and find it very BSD-ish. It seems to be a tangle, consisting of the "best"(read: what Sun thinks is the best) of BSD and the "best" of sysv.
In any case, I would have to say that the Sun ports are a far cry closer to having the applications run on BSD-ish systems. This will never happen, however, as long as MS holds their anti-open-source attitudes. Notice there are no ports of any MS applications to Solaris 8. Perhaps they are afraid the underlying syscalls will be tampered with, revealing (very vaguely) their code, and how it works.
Considering that by the time they get it in to space, it's quite obsolete, I see no problem with this. You have to admit, smashing up an 8088 with a sledgehammer is quite fun.. Not to say that's how I (or NASA) get my jollies ;P
I know, you would think that they would, not just for Athalon but for K6 also. Lets see here, K6-450's = ~$100.. so for $400 and the motherboard (lets assume another $400), you could have a dirt cheap 1800mhz SMP system. They could make a fortune selling to the broke *nix geek crowd! From what I have read, it seems that K6 and Athalon are perfectly capible of SMP, providing sombody starts making a chipset that can do it. It really is a shame that they have not done this yet.
Help, /. is being invaded by mentally unstable marmots intent on flinging their entrials at people!
Ok, not quite, but I have noticed a few trolls around today, and almost a complete lack of good posting.
Yes, I know, by posting this I'm submitting to the marmot syndrome everyone else seems to have today..
Compare memory prices to the stock market. There are many similarities.
My point is, they will go up, and they will drop back down. Wait a few months and you'll be able to find dirt cheap RAM.
I like it this way, you can get some very good deals when they have an "excess".
This is WAAAY off topic, however I happen to agree.
The proliferation of the RPM format is rather disgusting. Not everybody runs redhat, and there are those of us that treasure the cleanlyness of our filesystems. If developers want to release RPM, that is just fine, but whatever happened to good old tar.gz ?