for those of you asking what the hype is all about. here's what we've got so far that's different in Flock:
1. replaces old-school bookmarks with one-click social bookmarking to Del.icio.us 2. tagging is there if you want to do two-click bookmarking and tag 3. a new bookmarks manager with an integrated rss reader 4. built in search engine that indexes every page you visit and has a Spotlight-style as-you-type UI 5. keeps a list of the sites you visit most frequently 6. multiple bookmarks toolbar (one for work, one for play etc.) 7. finds feeds, lets you view them 8. caches the feeds so you can read them on the train 9. aggregated RSS view for all of your bookmarks folders 10. integrated blog editor (support wordpress, movable type, blogger) 11. one click 'blog this' feature (it does the blockquotes, citations and all that stuff for you) 12. Flickr integration (drag and drop pix into blogs) 13. shelf: a web scrapbook that helps you organizae stuff you want to blog
and of course it's open source and cross platform.
it's a developer preview, so we don't have a lot of product overview-style stuff, but if you go to either the Developer Section or the Community Section, the first link ("Get Started") takes you to a couple of documents that provide an overview, including screenshots. The URL is http://www.flock.com/fiveways/togetstarted/.
Flock is not a social bookmarking service. We *integrate* social bookmarking into the browser (del.icio.us right now). It's the web service that the spammers target, not the client software. So while we definitely want to work with our service provider partners to address this issue, the primary concern here here is for the web services providers.
We just launched Mozilla Marketing and a marketing mailing list. So we're going to start marketing Mozilla's products much more proactively. Please join us in this effort by joining the new marketing mailing list.
I think you're absolutely right. I've had this conversation many a times with my parents. I think it may well be the cause of my neuroses. In Korea, I've been renamed as (kurona - sounds kind of like a Mexican brand of beer), which is Korean for Bart, which kind of comes out sounding like But when Koreans say it.
Well, I know this sounds really stupid - but then again, pretty much all marketing sounds stupid. But the reality is, there are fashions in product naming, and if you violate those fashions, names sound kind of odd. There's a reason people make good money worrying about these issues.
For instance, during the dot-com phase, everyone put ".com" in their company name, but by now, everyone's removed that from their company name. Also, a few years ago, it was very popular to make compound words with capitals in the middle (HancomLinux) - but now that's not so popular anymore.
Similarly, single letters go through periods where they are hot and not. So a few years ago, everyone loved using the letter Q in company names (Quantum etc.). But that's really old now. When Eazel picked Z that was a decent marketing decision (in addition to the fact that the Easel.com domain was not available). In my personal opinion, the overuse of the letter K in all things related to the KDE project gets old very quick and is not a huge asset. But I'm sure KDE users feel the same about Galeon, Gnumeric and all the other G-words that are connected with GNOME. I just think the letter G is overall more elegant - it sounds smooth and looks round, whereas the letter K is so, well, square. Also, once I heard that KDE originally stood for Kool Desktop Environment I could never quite get that thought of my head - and that's kind of a traumatic thought:) (I fully appreciate that GNU Network MOdel Environment is quite a mouthful). There - for what that's worth:)
Having said that, I do think the KDE project has made great progress on the marketing side over the last year. The web site, the press releases, the entire enterprise.kde.org site (which doesn't render properly in Mozilla RC1) are all great showcases of an open source project that knows how to market itself. Kudos to the KDE team!
Bart
PS: The letter R doesn't invoke a strong emotional response in me one way or another.
I want to apologize to anyone who was offended by my line about some of the artwork in KDE. I do stand by the substance of my statement, but I could and should have said this a bit more delequately.
In any event, while I can't blame the/. editors for singling out this colorful statement, I hope that you guys will read the entire article and realize that that particular line does not summarize my opinion about the KDE project. As I say in the article, I think KDE is a terrific project. Also, Qt is the building block for my employer's software, and it's a great piece of software. Please note also that the entire point of the "KDE is butt-ugly" line was to then state that Lycoris has done a wonderful job polishing KDE.
But I do think that icons and other look & feel work ARE very important. At the end of the day, KDE is a DESKTOP and the artwork and look & feel is a key part of the desktop. It's what we look at all day long. Everyone's opinion about artwork is highly subjective of course, but in my opinion, the default icons and some of the other look & feel elements really are KDE's biggest weakness and the default icons that ship with KDE need a make-over. They're just not competitive with other desktops that regular folks (my wife, my parents) are used to looking at.
Hi folks,
By popular request, we have set up a Paypal account. If you're a happy user of Nautilus or Eazel's services, or just want to make a contribution to support us, please send payments to paypal@eazel.com.
We'll send a tshirt to anyone who contributes at least $20 (if you'd like one, make sure to include your mailing address and specify a size).
Cheers,
Bart Decrem
For a variety of reasons, we needed to outsource our support. We looked long & hard for a Linux-based solution that met our requirements, but unfortunately, there wasn't one:(
It uses WebDAV. Arlo does work on a Linux computer. We used Macintosh screenshots to make the point that, once your files are stored using Eazel Storage, you can access them from any platform using a web browser
Just to clarify. Anyone who's a member of the GNOME Foundation was able to announce their candidacy for the board, and no-one screened candidates in any kind of way. Anyone who's contributed to GNOME can be a member of the Foundation. There are currently 330 or so members, and 33 of them chose to announce their candidacy for the election.
I agree with you that we need to continue to work towards having a more diverse community in a number of dimensions (including racially).
Bart
I am one of the people who has helped with the creation of the GNOME Foundation and with this week's press announcement. I've also had the opportunity to meet and talk with Kurt and have a lot of respect for him. Hopefully the KDE and GNOME developers will increasingly work together to create bridges between the two environments so that end-users will be able to go back and forth between the two and use the best apps from both.
Kurt does misstate the role that corporations will play in the GNOME Foundation. The Foundation will be governed by a board of directors elected by the GNOME hackers. Board members will be hackers elected because of their technical contributions to GNOME.
The corporations who are supporting GNOME will be joining an Advisory Board that has NO decision-making authority. It is merely a forum for them to talk among themselves and with the GNOME developers about how they are contributing to GNOME.
Bart
That's a user preference setting. Set your user level to Intermediate or Expert, and go to Edit Hacker Settings. The first option lets you open each item in a new window.
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for those of you asking what the hype is all about. here's what we've got so far that's different in Flock:
1. replaces old-school bookmarks with one-click social bookmarking to Del.icio.us
2. tagging is there if you want to do two-click bookmarking and tag
3. a new bookmarks manager with an integrated rss reader
4. built in search engine that indexes every page you visit and has a Spotlight-style as-you-type UI
5. keeps a list of the sites you visit most frequently
6. multiple bookmarks toolbar (one for work, one for play etc.)
7. finds feeds, lets you view them
8. caches the feeds so you can read them on the train
9. aggregated RSS view for all of your bookmarks folders
10. integrated blog editor (support wordpress, movable type, blogger)
11. one click 'blog this' feature (it does the blockquotes, citations and all that stuff for you)
12. Flickr integration (drag and drop pix into blogs)
13. shelf: a web scrapbook that helps you organizae stuff you want to blog
and of course it's open source and cross platform.
details at http://www.flock.com/fiveways/togetstarted/13.php
it's a developer preview, so we don't have a lot of product overview-style stuff, but if you go to either the Developer Section or the Community Section, the first link ("Get Started") takes you to a couple of documents that provide an overview, including screenshots. The URL is http://www.flock.com/fiveways/togetstarted/.
Flock is not a social bookmarking service. We *integrate* social bookmarking into the browser (del.icio.us right now). It's the web service that the spammers target, not the client software. So while we definitely want to work with our service provider partners to address this issue, the primary concern here here is for the web services providers.
I am so into this idea.
We need to get serious about getting this great technology in front of people, and offering these types of products is one interesting way to do that.
We just launched Mozilla Marketing and a marketing mailing list. So we're going to start marketing Mozilla's products much more proactively. Please join us in this effort by joining the new marketing mailing list.
Thanks for pointing that out. My confession is archived here.
I think you're absolutely right. I've had this conversation many a times with my parents. I think it may well be the cause of my neuroses. In Korea, I've been renamed as (kurona - sounds kind of like a Mexican brand of beer), which is Korean for Bart, which kind of comes out sounding like But when Koreans say it.
bd
Well, I know this sounds really stupid - but then again, pretty much all marketing sounds stupid. But the reality is, there are fashions in product naming, and if you violate those fashions, names sound kind of odd. There's a reason people make good money worrying about these issues.
:)
For instance, during the dot-com phase, everyone put ".com" in their company name, but by now, everyone's removed that from their company name. Also, a few years ago, it was very popular to make compound words with capitals in the middle (HancomLinux) - but now that's not so popular anymore.
Similarly, single letters go through periods where they are hot and not. So a few years ago, everyone loved using the letter Q in company names (Quantum etc.). But that's really old now. When Eazel picked Z that was a decent marketing decision (in addition to the fact that the Easel.com domain was not available). In my personal opinion, the overuse of the letter K in all things related to the KDE project gets old very quick and is not a huge asset. But I'm sure KDE users feel the same about Galeon, Gnumeric and all the other G-words that are connected with GNOME. I just think the letter G is overall more elegant - it sounds smooth and looks round, whereas the letter K is so, well, square. Also, once I heard that KDE originally stood for Kool Desktop Environment I could never quite get that thought of my head - and that's kind of a traumatic thought:) (I fully appreciate that GNU Network MOdel Environment is quite a mouthful). There - for what that's worth
Having said that, I do think the KDE project has made great progress on the marketing side over the last year. The web site, the press releases, the entire enterprise.kde.org site (which doesn't render properly in Mozilla RC1) are all great showcases of an open source project that knows how to market itself. Kudos to the KDE team!
Bart
PS: The letter R doesn't invoke a strong emotional response in me one way or another.
Dude, that's an instant classic. I can't believe I lived 34 years without thinking of that one.
Hi folks,
/. editors for singling out this colorful statement, I hope that you guys will read the entire article and realize that that particular line does not summarize my opinion about the KDE project. As I say in the article, I think KDE is a terrific project. Also, Qt is the building block for my employer's software, and it's a great piece of software. Please note also that the entire point of the "KDE is butt-ugly" line was to then state that Lycoris has done a wonderful job polishing KDE.
I want to apologize to anyone who was offended by my line about some of the artwork in KDE. I do stand by the substance of my statement, but I could and should have said this a bit more delequately.
In any event, while I can't blame the
But I do think that icons and other look & feel work ARE very important. At the end of the day, KDE is a DESKTOP and the artwork and look & feel is a key part of the desktop. It's what we look at all day long. Everyone's opinion about artwork is highly subjective of course, but in my opinion, the default icons and some of the other look & feel elements really are KDE's biggest weakness and the default icons that ship with KDE need a make-over. They're just not competitive with other desktops that regular folks (my wife, my parents) are used to looking at.
Cheers,
Bart
Hi folks, By popular request, we have set up a Paypal account. If you're a happy user of Nautilus or Eazel's services, or just want to make a contribution to support us, please send payments to paypal@eazel.com. We'll send a tshirt to anyone who contributes at least $20 (if you'd like one, make sure to include your mailing address and specify a size). Cheers, Bart Decrem
For a variety of reasons, we needed to outsource our support. We looked long & hard for a Linux-based solution that met our requirements, but unfortunately, there wasn't one :(
I know it seems that way, but I work at Eazel and can tell you this is not how things happened.
our goal is to make the software catalog quite comprehensive over the weeks and months to come.
It uses WebDAV. Arlo does work on a Linux computer. We used Macintosh screenshots to make the point that, once your files are stored using Eazel Storage, you can access them from any platform using a web browser
Just to clarify. Anyone who's a member of the GNOME Foundation was able to announce their candidacy for the board, and no-one screened candidates in any kind of way. Anyone who's contributed to GNOME can be a member of the Foundation. There are currently 330 or so members, and 33 of them chose to announce their candidacy for the election. I agree with you that we need to continue to work towards having a more diverse community in a number of dimensions (including racially). Bart
I am one of the people who has helped with the creation of the GNOME Foundation and with this week's press announcement. I've also had the opportunity to meet and talk with Kurt and have a lot of respect for him. Hopefully the KDE and GNOME developers will increasingly work together to create bridges between the two environments so that end-users will be able to go back and forth between the two and use the best apps from both. Kurt does misstate the role that corporations will play in the GNOME Foundation. The Foundation will be governed by a board of directors elected by the GNOME hackers. Board members will be hackers elected because of their technical contributions to GNOME. The corporations who are supporting GNOME will be joining an Advisory Board that has NO decision-making authority. It is merely a forum for them to talk among themselves and with the GNOME developers about how they are contributing to GNOME. Bart
That's a user preference setting. Set your user level to Intermediate or Expert, and go to Edit Hacker Settings. The first option lets you open each item in a new window.